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Re: Gorringe surname

london04 — 2009-11-07 19:31:56Z

Lillian Gorringe's parents are William Frederick Gorringe and Mary Ann Crane. WFG's parents are Wm. Gorringe and Betsy Tuckwell. William's parents are Wm Gorringe and Sarah Harmer.

Re: Gorringe surname

williesbaby — 2009-11-07 17:42:58Z

so who is LILLIAN GORRINGE'S parents

Re: Gorringe surname

racheldomanski — 2009-11-07 16:09:41Z

Re: Gorringe surname

london04 — 2009-11-07 16:05:02Z

All of Lillian Gorringe's family live in London, Ontario, Canada.

Re: Gorringe surname

london04 — 2009-11-06 16:29:34Z

That's because Lillian was a grand-daughter of Betsy Tuckwell. Wm. Gorringe=Betsy Tuckwell's son William Frederick Gorringe married Mary Ann Crane and one of their several children was Lillian Gorringe who married Claude Fisher and Lillian was my maternal grandmother.

Re: Gorringe surname

williesbaby — 2009-11-06 13:28:29Z

hi
okay... i know the names.. or Harmer and Gorringe,
they are in my tree but not my direct branches...

are you in Canada? United States? or UK ?

Re: Gorringe surname

racheldomanski — 2009-11-06 08:53:26Z

Hi
Have William and Sarah harmer ... have their eldest William Frederick marrying a Betsy Tuckwell ... but only 9 kids and no Lilian ... HELP !!

Re: Monumental Indexes

david11000 — 2009-11-05 22:55:03Z

Biggleswade registration district covers many parishes. Do you know in which parish he died?

Monumental Indexes

tardad — 2009-11-05 22:04:27Z

Are there MI booklets for Bedfordshire &, if so, does anyone do lookups? I am searching for WILLIAM THOMAS SPOUSE, 72 years, who's death was registered 3/4 of 1947 in Biggleswade. Many thanks - Joan

Re: Abraham Punter/Elizabeth Cooper

RickNyons — 2009-11-05 16:47:51Z

Wayne our trees are connected one generation earlier ie Abraham's older brother George is my 3 x G grandfather so we are in teh same boat going back in time and presumably both stuck with Susan Smith

Would be interested in seeing your tree and happy to send you mine if you email me at ricknyons@googlemail.com

Re: James Chivers 1742-1816. Last will enclosed

geebrooks9 — 2009-11-03 10:04:13Z

Hi David, thank you for taking the time to reply to my query. I will certainly look into this, might be what I have been searching for.
Thanks again, Ray.

Re: Manning Roots

BarbaraNelson57 — 2009-11-03 03:41:24Z

Should you ever learn that your Manning's immigrated to Salem MA, please let me know. Margaret Manning was born around 1908-1909 or so, and had several sibblings. She was a classmate of and friend for life of my mother's.

I do have more information on the Manning family, but at the moment its not handy.

I do hope since posting the above message you have learned more about your Mannings.

Barbara

Re: KIDDEY NAME

robertkiddey — 2009-11-02 23:17:51Z

Hello Amanda, my name is Robert Kiddey. I was born in Ft. walton beach FL and am now stationed at Ellsworth AFB. My dad has always told me the name was english but I have had a hard time really finding any information about it. Email me sometime if you want! Robert.Kiddey@ellsworth.af.mil Take it easy.

Re: James Chivers 1742-1816. Last will enclosed

david11000 — 2009-11-02 20:31:09Z

Have you checked the IGI at www.familysearch.org? There's a baptism of James Chivers on 6 Feb 1742 at West Challow, which is 8 miles from Harwell which might be worth looking at. Proving it will be hard though

Virtually all Beds baptisms pre 1813 have been extracted onto the IGI, but there are no James Chivers

David

James Chivers 1742-1816. Last will enclosed

geebrooks9 — 2009-11-02 18:32:07Z

I am trying to trace the parents and birth place and date, and date of James Chivers 1741-1816. On the 19th June 1769, James Chivers of Wornal, ( Worminghall ) Buckinghamshire married Sarah Blake at Peasemore and established a family home at Harwell on the Berkshire Downs.
They had seven children:
James b. 1770-1847
John 1773
Gabriel 1775
Ann 1778
Mary 1780
Sarah 1783
Racheal 1786
The children were all born in Berkshire.

Any help would be much appreciated
Thank you, Sara.

I am trying to trace the parents and birth place, and date of James Chivers 1741-1816. On the 19th June 1769, James Chivers of Wornal, (Worminghall) Buckinghamshire married Sarah Blake at Peasemore and established a family home at Harwell on the Berkshire Downs.
They had seven children:
James b. 1770-1847
John 1773
Gabriel 1775
Ann 1778
Mary 1780
Sarah 1783
Racheal 1786
They were all born in Berkshire.

Any help would be much appreciated
Thank you, Sara.

Will of James Chivers Harwell July 3rd 1813/4

The last will and testament of me James Chivers of Harwell in the County of Berks labourer which I make ----and declare in manner following(that is to say) I give and bequeath unto my three daughters, Ann Chivers, Sarah wife of Robert Butler and Rachel Chivers all my household goods and household furniture equally to be divided among them share and share alike.

Also I give and bequeath unto William Goddard of East Highbourn? In the said County of Berks yeoman William Elderfield of Harwell aforesaid yeoman all -----messuage or tenement garden and orchard with their appurtanences situate in Harwell aforesaid to hold to them the said William Goddard and William Elderfield and the survivor of their executors administrators and during all the residue and remainder of the form I have to come therein upon the ---? Hereinafter mentioned and declared and concerning the same that is to stay in trust permit and suffer my daughtersAnn and Rachel to occupy and enjoy the said premises during such time as they shall remain single and unmarried and also to permit and suffer my said daughters after the marriage of the other to occupy the same during so long time as she shall remain single and unmarried and after the year of the marriage of both of my said daughters or immediately after the decease of the survivor of my said daughters Ann and Rachel the trust can dispose of my said messuage and tenement -----? Aforesaid-----? Sale or forward contract for the best price that can be gotten for the same and shall pay ---------? To my daudgter Rachel the sum of ten pounds and all the residue after deducting all costs charges and expenses as they or either of them shall bear pay ----- about the execution of this my will ------? Proved unto my sons and daughters James Chivers John Chivers Ann Chivers Sarah thwife of Robert Butler and Rachel Chivers equally to be divided among them to share and share alike

It continues with more instructions to executors re receipts for sale

James Chivers made his mark 3rd July 1813 or 14

Will proved July 30th 1816

Alfred Worbey

ascrawley — 2009-10-26 09:05:06Z

Hi James,
Do you have an email address so that I can send a tree chart to you?
I can`t find a Jack on my tree but maybe you will spot a link from my info.
Tony

Re: DIXON - LIEBICH

raylyons168 — 2009-10-25 15:57:51Z

Yes, I'm having problems trying to find him. He's my ggfather.
I lost track of him in 1925 in Montreal(Westmount).
His wife went back to England and died in 1938, no mention of him at all.

Re: DIXON

achalut — 2009-10-25 09:18:58Z

I am not able to reply on LIEBICH site

In the 1901 census Liebich Max b. 1861 , Marion b. 1861 , Hugo b. 1885 , Cecil b.1889 , Dora b. 1893 , Avis b. 1895 .I could not find the family in 1911 census

andre

Re: Abraham Punter/Elizabeth Cooper

RickNyons — 2009-10-18 14:25:21Z

I have been revisiting the various postings about the Punters over the past year (for some unknown reason I missed several of them)

I have some clear links with other family trees eg Abraham Punter b 1840 was the younger brother of George b 1825 in my tree

Trying to fit in the Derbyshire mining link as yet eludes me but must be worth doing when I'll be laid in late November following a foot operation

Will post anything found then

Re: DUDLEY- MASTERS - BERRY - ODELL - HUMPHREY

gsmithpros — 2009-10-05 11:18:34Z

Sue
You post is three years old. Are you still looking for Louisa Dudley and Tom Bavister?
I am related to Mary Dudley...Louisa's mother via another daughter Eliza. I have a little info.
Gary

Re: white

silicondale — 2009-10-12 18:00:48Z

hello, Dianne - I wondered if you'd got any further with the White family. I think now that there are two, probably unrelated, White families in Woburn at the end of the 18thC. One family, already there, with surname sometimes spelled Whyte: daughter Ann born 1770 didn't marry William Henley in 1805, but possibly married Robert Parker in 1789. Second family, from the Strand area of London (marriage and christenings in St Clement Danes) moved to Woburn around 1790-1800. Parents William and Lettice, daughter Ann Maria born 1785, married William Henley. Only hypothesis, but seems the best candidate. William and Ann's eldest son John married in 1838 in Brighton, aunt Lettice White was a witness, and later census data gives her birthplace as London St Clements. There are other possibilities but all likely cases involve a White family from London.

1885 Kelly's Directory Bedfordshire

sms17 — 2009-10-17 12:09:11Z

Would sks have access to the 1885 Kelly's Directory of Bedfordshire or similar? I'm looking for any entry for a Jeremiah Carr, gardener, in that time frame. I know his wife, Mary Ann, was buried in Milton Ernest Churchyard in Oct 1887 and I'm wondering if the family was living in the area in 1885. Jeremiah had been the Head Gardener at Delapre Abbey, Hardingstone, Northampton until at least 1882, then the family seemed to move around. Any assistance would be appreciated.

/Sue
Ontario, Canada

Re: DUMPLETON, Bedfordshire >> St Albans, Herts

MarilynWarlow27 — 2009-10-19 09:50:46Z

I have Luton Dumpelton's in my family by marriage. My Sisters first Husband was Paul Dumpleton and they had two sons, Ricky and Robert. Came from Farley Hill I believe.

Marilyn

Re: Abraham Punter/Elizabeth Cooper

waynepunter78 — 2009-10-14 18:04:59Z

What is the name of Ann Punters Parents ?

Re: Abraham Punter/Elizabeth Cooper

waynepunter78 — 2009-10-14 17:51:07Z

My 3 x great Grandfarther was Abraham Punter born 1840 ,son of Abraham punter Born 1791 and Mother Elizabeth Cowper Born 1798

Abraham 1840 was
Married to a Maria Cross 1840 ..they moved from Flamstead Hertfordshire to Gresley in South Derbyshire.Where he was a miner ..then later in life they became A farming/mining family.
Have found most of them burried in the local cemetry..
This is a link to where they are all burried..
http://www.southderbyshirebdm.co.uk/resultspage.asp

They had a son called Joseph Punter who married Unice Moore..who had a son Henry who Married a Elizabeth Sutton, they had a son Called Frederick who married an Elizabeth Bradford(my Grandfarther and Grandmother) Anyone any Connection to this family ??

I have traced this family up to 1700 a william Punter and Mary carter..can not get any higher..can anyone help ??

Have lots of info about the Punter Family who Moved up North to become miners if anyone is intrested .

Re: Abraham Punter/Elizabeth Cooper

waynepunter78 — 2009-10-20 17:38:59Z

I have all the Derbyhire Punters on my offline family tree.
They are all from the villge of castle Gresley Derbyshie.
I know all about them as i still live here now.
If you have any Questions then just ask .

Wayne Punter

Re: James and Elizabeth PROCTER

peggysullivan114 — 2009-10-16 11:03:27Z

The 1851 census shows Eliza married to William Procter. Did you get James names from a certificate somewhere.

1851 William born Eaton Bray
Eliza Eddlesbro Bucks

I cannot find any marriage of a James Procter but William Procter married Eliza Botsford Leighton Buzzard Dec.1846 ref: 6 161

Re: Caroline Worbey 1922

lworbey1 — 2009-10-24 20:03:54Z

James, you mentioned you had a Jack who passed in 1977, I have a Jack in my tree currently who was born in 1915, does that sound right?

Re: Caroline Worbey 1922

lworbey1 — 2009-10-23 15:47:37Z

I meant to mention that I do have a private area set up on the forum so if you would like to send some messages in there that not everyone can see to begin with then that might be useful... Hope it helps!

Lee Worbey

Re: Caroline Worbey 1922

lworbey1 — 2009-10-23 15:46:11Z

Hey all, I don't mean to take away from this forum but I do have a forum setup for my worbey family tree so if you fancy having a chat over there then feel free.

My tree so far is at http://familyhistory.worbey.com and there is a link to the forum also.

Just got back to doing some more family history and the people you are talking about feature in my tree im sure so I'll also have a look and see what I can dig out.

Re: John Mawby (Morby, Moorby, Moorbey, Moreby Variations)

morbytree — 2009-10-24 21:17:32Z

James Brown is on my wife's family line. The information I have gathered is from the Census material. I had yet to identify Isabella's surname so anything her marriage to James and on her wider family would be appreciated.

Re: City Directories for the greater Biggleswade area

david11000 — 2009-10-17 07:43:00Z

If you purchase his death cerificate you may be able to learn more as to where he died, and the address of the informant, whicj may help to pin down where he was buried.

David

Re: James and Elizabeth PROCTER

david11000 — 2009-10-16 12:29:39Z

James and Elizabeth Procter were baptising children in Billington up to 1871. There were two Ann's born in Billington within a year or so of each other - the daughter of James and Elizabeth who in 1871 was still living with them aged 20, and the other Ann who in 1871 was aged 18 living with her mother and stepfather Bethuel Horne.

The big question must be who is the Ann Procter who married Charles Horn? It may take another marriage cert to establish her father's name

David

Re: James and Elizabeth PROCTER

david11000 — 2009-10-16 11:58:25Z

Sorry to have covered some of the same ground as you Peggy. I've been typing this while researching for the past 2 hours and didn't realise you'd posted. I think we've come to the same conclusion!

David

Re: James and Elizabeth PROCTER

david11000 — 2009-10-16 11:56:07Z

The birth certificate of one of her four children will give you Elizabeth's (in 1861 she was Eliza, not Elizabeth) maiden name.

For example, if you use www.freebmd.org.uk you'll find Arthur's birth registered in Leighton Buzzard registration district in the Sept quarter 1859 vol 3b page 388.

So James could have died at any time from the end of 1858 to March 1861, assuming Eliza was telling the truth when she described herself as widow, as opposed to her husband had done a runner and left her. But I can't see an obvious death on Freebmd.

Presumably you haven't got Ann's 1853 birth cert, otherwise you'd know her mother's maiden name. In which case how do you know Eliza's husband was James? I can't find a marriage that fits, but there's a Dec quarter 1846 marriage in Leighton Buzzard on Freebmd where William Procter and Eliza Botsford are on the same page. And in 1851 I can't find James and Eliza with daughter Laura, but living in Billington is William 36 b Eaton Bray; Eliza 27 b Edlesborough, and daughter Sarah 4 b Edlesborough. Could Sarh be a misenumeration for Laura? The three following children were all born in Billington. And there is a death of William Procter in the March quarter 1859 in Leighton Buzzard

I am beginning to smell rats about Eliza's husband being James! Only a birth cert will prove it one way or the other - father James or William, and Eliza's maiden name.

David

Re: James and Elizabeth PROCTER

KylieGoode — 2009-10-16 12:11:42Z

Hi David and Peggy

Thank you both so much for replying and for spending so much time doing some investigating! I got James from www.familysearch.org, on which it states Elizabeth as well, not Eliza. I think I'm going to have to order another birth cert and see what I can find out, it's so frustrating to get so far and then be at a dead end, that's why I thought I'd post and see if any of you wonderful people knew something I didn't!
I had seen the William and Eliza, but wasn't convinced this was Ann's parents, mainly because of this James I had found on familysearch.org.....

Thanks again for all of your help, I really appreciate it!

Kind regards

Kylie

James and Elizabeth PROCTER

KylieGoode — 2009-10-15 19:37:54Z

Hi There

Today I finally received the birth certificate for Priscilla Horn (please see attached copy of certificate) on which I was hoping to establish who her parents were. The mother's maiden name looks like it's spelt Proctter, but records seem to come up with Procter, which isn't suprising. However, I'm hoping someone can provide me with some more information on the following:

Priscilla Horn's mother = Ann Proctter (Procter) born

* 26 Jun 1853
* in Billington, Bedfordshire, England

Priscilla Horn's father = Charles Horn born

* abt 1852
* in Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England

Ann Proctter's mother = Elizabeth born approximately 1824 in Eddlesborough, Buckinghamshire. In 1861 at the age of 37 she was a widow of James Proctter (of which I have no further information other than he died in approximately 1860, I got this from the 1861 census on which it states that Elizabeth is a widow, but has a one year old son - Arthur Proctter, therefore James must have died sometime between 1860 and 1861), she was a straw plaiter and a School Mistress. I cannot find Elizabeth's maiden name.

Ann and James Proctter had four children:

Ann Proctter (the one named above)
Laura (B. 1847, Eddlesborough, Buckinghamshire)
Sarah A. (B. 1857 Billington, Bedfordshire)
Arthur (B. 1860 Billington, Bedfordshire)

Does anyone know anymore about this family? Ideally I would love Elizabeth's surname and James's birth date / location.

Any help would be fantastic!

Thank you.

Re: John Mawby (Morby, Moorby, Moorbey, Moreby Variations)

johnandkathryn1 — 2009-10-20 19:50:13Z

I noticed on your family tree that you have some of my ancestors from South Hylton listed i.e. James Brown b. 1814 - 1897 and his wife Isabella Humes 1814 - 1891. Although I am still trying to locate the parents of James Brown, I have traced the Humes line further back to Robert Holmes born before 1670. Some of this still needs some work to confirm accuracy. Is this of any interest to you?

Re: Caroline Worbey 1922

jameslomas11 — 2009-10-21 13:20:57Z

Hi Tony,

I have now spoken to my Aunt Janice, and she has confirmed that Alfred is my great grandad too. She has lots of photographs of all the family from both sides!

Re: Caroline Worbey 1922

jameslomas11 — 2009-10-05 14:17:38Z

Hi Tony,

I have just been reading your threads, as it turns out I think your G G Grandad (with the wooden leg) is my G G Grandad too! I have been told stories that he used to keep gold coins in it. My Grandad who past in 1977 was Jack Worbey, who was Married to Dorris Worbey, (both Worbey's before they were married). My Aunt Janice is in the process of putting together our family tree and she has got lots of old photos of our family, some as early as 1892!

If you have any info to offer or would like to find out more from me please do get in contact

Re: Caroline Worbey 1922

jameslomas11 — 2009-10-06 09:29:20Z

Hi Tony,

Good to hear from you, I should imagine that we link somewhere along the line, as I said before both my Nan and Grandad were Worbey's before they were married, my Nan had i think 7 sisters and one brother, I think her brother died at aged about 6 or 7, he was run over by a bus. My Grandad had I think 7 or 8 brothers, and they were land owners, they had big orchards in Hitchin which were all sold off in the late sixties for housing, they had a big house where the fire station is now called orchard house which is now gone. It is my Grandad's side which I think is related to alfred, although my aunt's research show's that the two families are linked to two brothers about six or seven generations before. I will wait to see if you think we are related, and if you then need any other info my aunt knows the family history extensively!

City Directories for the greater Biggleswade area

tardad — 2009-10-16 21:06:06Z

I am searching for the cemetery where my great uncle was buried. He was WILLIAM THOMAS SPOUSE & he died in 1947 at the age of 72 years; registered in Biggleswade Sep quarter of 1947. He was not buried in Biggleswade Cemetery off Stratton Way, nor in Langford Cemetery, as these have been ruled out. Since there are numerous parishes in this Registration District I need to search the City &/or Town Directories to located where this family lived in order to narrow down my cemetery search. I live in Canada & was hoping someone might be able to advise me. Thanks - Joan

Re: HENSMAN history

robinus89 — 2009-10-17 15:36:58Z

Hi Jessica,

Just thought i'd say hello back. My name is Robin Hensman.
I am 55 and live with my family Pauline, Daniel (16) and Bethany (15) in Bolton, NR Manchester, England.

Love
Robin

Re: Judith granddaughter of Simon Edward Kelf

ansjevanelburg — 2009-10-16 16:17:44Z

Sorry for the mistakes, I've seen them now. We where not merried but married. (And merry we where ) And we does not lifed but lived. I hope you have understand in anyway.Greetings

Re: Judith granddaughter of Simon Edward Kelf

ansjevanelburg — 2009-10-16 12:39:36Z

Hallo, I,m Ansje van Elburg from Holland. We lifed near Peter and Judith in the 60th. When they and we where just merried. We became close friend but lost contact. I think when they divorsed.I did'nt know that, by the way. They have a daughter Rachel born in Ommen Holland. Where Peter worked on an Internationel school. We where searching for theme because we where such good friends. But we found nothing till I remebered Judiht's name of birth was Kelf-Cohen. This day I Googled and found your message and I hope you can tell me a little bit more. And perhaps I can tell you something. I"m really happy to have found this. Many greetings from Ansje van Elburg

Researching the following names.

DonnaBoness17 — 2009-10-23 18:57:01Z

I am researching the Browns from Langford, the Boness family of both Biggleswade and Sandy and the Bates family from Wrestlingworth and finally the Hipgraves of Biggleswade if their is anyone out their with these names please contact me

Re: Judith granddaughter of Simon Edward Kelf

Mikeitha — 2009-10-16 19:39:33Z

Thanks for replying to my query.
If you would like to contact me directly at rmdavis@amtelecom.net, I will share whatever information I have on Judith with you.
keitha

Re: Judith granddaughter of Simon Edward Kelf

Mikeitha — 2009-10-03 16:11:00Z

I also believe that there was a daughter, Rachel but cannot find a birth registration. Any information to confirm this would be appreciated.

Re: Caroline Worbey 1922

ascrawley — 2009-10-05 19:51:17Z

Hi James,
Nice to hear from you. It certainly sounds promising. It`s always great to come across a new lead or branch of the family.
I`ll have a look at my Tree tomorrow when I`ve got some time and get back to you again. I do have 3 photos of Alfred, one of them with his son, Grandson and Great Grandson in a newspaper clipping.
If things do tie in I would love to have a copy of any old photos you may have and I would, naturally, send you what I have as well as the Worbey Tree (which is quite extensive) and copies of BMD certificates.

Will contact you again shortly,

Regards, Tony

Caroline Worbey 1922

ascrawley — 2009-10-21 19:27:18Z

Hi James,
Sorry not to have got back sooner. I have been working flat out with the builders etc to get the house finished. They have gone but I`m still painting and tying up all the loose ends.
It`s good to know that there is a definite link from Alfred. All my Genealogy stuff is packed in the attic out of the way while the mess is around. I`ll try and get round to going through the Worbey file over the next few days and promise to get back to you.
Do you have an email address so I can contact you direct rather than through the message board? You can email it to me for security at : ascrawley@yahoo.com
Regards,
Tony