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Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

keithattwell80 — 2009-11-23 20:52:05Z

Hi

My grandfather was Joseph Jackson born 18/02/1893 in Park Lane, Oldbury, Worcestershire (then) England. He survived the Somme and Ypres, captured, escaped to Switzerland and married my grandmother Marthe Buser in 2 ceremonies in Lausanne and Bern on the 1st/3rd August 1918. Lucky me. His father was Joseph Jackson also and his mother Eliza Jane Elizabeth Knowles.Believe he had 2 sisters Emily and Matilda and a brother Henry. Any links?

Best wishes

Keith
keith.attwell@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

srjacx — 2009-11-04 00:05:22Z

looking forward to hearing from you
B Jackson aka stafka

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

AsMadasanHatter — 2009-11-03 20:58:35Z

The woodall connection sounds v familiar will get back to you when I get my laptop back as my tree is on it x

Re: Wm. MALPASS of Dudley, Black Country

black_widow2005uk — 2009-10-12 13:51:14Z

Have you found them in any census at all? I've just had a quick look and cant find them. I also looked for william's birth on familysearch.org and there wasnt a single Malpass born in clay hills on that site, which is usually helpful.

I did find a William Malpass born in 1813 in Bitterley, Shropshire, he had a brother called John, born the same place. They also had many siblings. There parents were Benjamin and Elizabeth.

Hope this is some help.

Emma.

Re: Wm. MALPASS of Dudley, Black Country

vhdl15464 — 2009-10-12 09:26:42Z

Could Clay Hills be CLEE Hills? I have found this misinterpretation on the record of one of my family. Perhaps it was the way that the enumerator heard the word.

Velda

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

stafka — 2009-09-21 00:35:35Z

Great to hear from you!!!
My ancestor Ellen Whale married Isaiah Jackson in Tipton in 1845. Her parents were William Whale and Elizabeth Stringer. I have much more on their ancestors and their descendants.
Their name Whale often appeared as Wheale
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I have John Woodall and Marey? marrying 1661. Among their off spring was a son John Jr who marries Mary Hollis. Then son Joseph married Mary Hadley 1716 Dudley. I have extensive data on their line down to a marriage of their descendant Isaiah Jackson as above
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My Whitehouses are more recent with Joseph Whitehouse marrying Bertha Owen ..1906.....my grandmother's( Mary Owen) sister
I also have another situation where a Whitehouse married an Allen girl in the 1950's.Her grandmother mother was also a Dudley Owen.
I can unravel the Whitehouses!
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I have Jackson from Dudley on BOTH sides of my Dudley ancestry
............................................................The surname Stringer also appears frequently
Perhaps we have a link with each other. Email me at srjacx@yahoo.ca and I will hopefully find common ancestors

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

AsMadasanHatter — 2009-09-20 12:47:36Z

hi I have Whale, Woodall and Whitehouse of Dudley x

Re: Please can someone help solve a Black Country mystery?

AsMadasanHatter — 2009-09-20 12:35:54Z

SPon lane is but a stones throw away from Aston Manor a lot would have gone that way for work x

Re: Please can someone help solve a Black Country mystery?

warspen — 2009-06-04 21:26:01Z

sorry wrong link try this

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcc...

Re: Please can someone help solve a Black Country mystery?

warspen — 2009-06-04 21:16:15Z

is this your william george rose ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcc...

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

christylovesdogs — 2009-02-26 14:51:56Z

Hi
My name is christy Jones, I live in the United states. My mother is a parkes and I have woodall' s in my family. I am also a jones. I wolud like for you to e-mail me at usabeautfulgirl@yahoo.com if you have any queations.

Re: Please can someone help solve a mystery?

mallosa — 2009-01-10 10:04:35Z

Forgot to say - why not click on 'contact' & ask if they have any information about Jimmy Rose?

Re: Please can someone help solve a mystery?

mallosa — 2009-01-10 09:59:38Z

Hi Angie,you've pobably seen this on the attached link:

Jim Rose(West Bromwich) total bouts 48 active 1920s to 1930s

http://www.prewarboxing.co.uk/boxer%20lists/R%20list.htm

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

lindaggeorge — 2009-01-07 16:39:30Z

As an original member of RRO, I was sad to see it go but was pleased to also be an original member of Black Country Gob. Which apart from being able to help with Black Country History Family Research, also has forums covering Black Country Trades and Local History. The Black Country Gob Gallery is a marvellous collection of images of BlackCountry Folk and Buildings including many no longer standing.

Well known Black Country names, like Tibbetts, Hadley, Willetts, Rose, Parkes and many more besides can be found there.

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

58_kdr — 2009-01-07 16:08:37Z

Black Country Connections (http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/) is indeed a team effort with a lot of people adding information - that is the whole point of it really.

Naturally this can lead to errors but we have a clear policy on this matter. If anyone disagrees with some of the information on the site then they are welcome to contact the administrators and we will look into the matter.

Usually what we do is throw the topic open for discussion on http://www.genealogyforum.co.uk/forum/ and/or check the original data at the archives.

It works a little like Wikipedia - we rely on people pointing out the mistakes so they can be fixed but do not see our site as 100% reliable. The up-side of having so many contributors is that although there may be more errors entered there are also more people to spot them :-)

Occasionally there may be cases where there are two interpretations based on the same inconclusive data. When that happens we tend to let the first post stand and add a note pointing out the second possibility.

So, if you have spotted any mistakes please let us know so that we can look into them. We now have over 16000 entries on the site and I would them all to be correct if possible.

Kate (one of the administrators of Black Country Connections)

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

brielec — 2009-01-07 12:18:35Z

I found a number of inaccuracies in that bc Tribal Pages. Seems to me it's a case of quantity, not quality, with information being entered by various people.

If anyone is thinking of taking information from there, I would recommend they check it all out at the archives before using it. As you should when using all information taken from other people's research.

Re: Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

warspen — 2009-01-06 19:58:59Z

mine you ive come across this and it seem good

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/

and they seem to get on this site from what ive been told

http://www.genealogyforum.co.uk

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON

PeteWelsby — 2009-01-06 10:22:12Z

Searching for Nock I came across this topic myself albeit a little old now. The Rowley Regis site has since closed however it has been replaced by a forum for the whole Black Country region called Blackcountry Gob. Take a look here, it may help. http://www.blackcountrygob.com

Help researching Genealogy in the Black Country

PeteWelsby — 2009-01-04 19:24:26Z

If anyone is researching their family history in the Black Country Region then I would recommend taking a visit to BlackCountry Gob, the community forum for the Black Country.

Since the closure of Rowley Regis Online ( www.rowleyregis.com) Black Country Gob ( www.blackcountrygob.com) has taken it's place with most of the regular members from there moving over to BCG.

A vast amount of data is shortly to be uploaded to the site which may well help in your search.

Re: Family Research - NOCK / WILLETTS / LOWE / SHAKESPEARE / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

warspen — 2008-11-28 22:18:43Z

hi gene angel have you seen this tree most of your relatives will proberly inter connect with it

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com

you can also catch use here

http://www.genealogyforum.co.uk

Re: Searching for Elmore, Reynolds, Bartram and Mobberley in Black Country @1900

2008-11-08 01:02:09Z

I am researching a family of Elmore's from Darlaston. My family are, William. b 1898. Darlaston, John Henry. b 1900.Darlaston. Both sons of John & Ann of Darlaston.

ELMORE, REYNOLDS, BARTRAM and MOBBERLEY in Black Country @1900

ledwards21 — 2008-11-08 01:01:45Z

Looking for Elmore in Darlaston @ 1900, Reynolds at the Pleck, Walsall @1900, Bartram who owned a rope & twine factory in Darlaston @1880's and Mobberley at the Pleck, Walsall. Any information relating to either family or living descendants would be a great start.

RUSHTON from the Black country

harryrushton — 2008-11-08 00:58:33Z

Seeking any information about James Rushton Born 1907, married Rosina May Bigland 2nd marriage. Was married Previous and had 2 daughters.

DEALLY, SAWFORD in the Black Country area

2008-11-08 00:47:14Z

Looking for anyone researching these names in the Black Country area.
Thanks.

Non Conformists in the black country

2008-11-08 00:31:07Z

Can anyone help with any contacts, research , books etc about early non conformist groups in the black country, especially methodists. thanks, ann marie

Re: STROYDE, Dudley, CLEMPSON,

2008-11-08 00:04:08Z

On the 1901 census Northfield.
Richard Clempson age 47 b. Dudley
Sarah age 47 b.Netherton
John age 21 b.Handsworth
Richard 12 age 12 b.Staffs Brettle Lane.

The birth records show Richard Stride b.1853 Dudley ,parents John and Ann.John Stride b.1833 Dudley parents Richard and Hannah.

Richard married Sarah Garrett, Stourbridge ,December 1873,reference 6c 374 using the name Richard Stroyd.
The 'i' in Black country dialect is 'oi'

Here they are in 1881.
Dwelling: 18A Tyndal St
Census Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Source: FHL Film 1341683 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2850 Folio 16 Page 26
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Richard L. CLEMSON M 27 M Dudley, Worcester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Malster
Sarah J.L. CLEMSON M 27 F Dudley, Worcester, England
Rel: Wife
Blanch E.C. CLEMSON 6 F Brettle Lane, Stafford, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Florence S. CLEMSON 4 F Dudley, Worcester, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John S. CLEMSON 1 M Handsworth, Stafford, England
Rel: Son
Major S. CLEMSON 5 m M West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Rel: Son
Alfred EVANS U 19 M Dudley, Worcester, England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Malsters Servant (Asst)
Susannah HOMER U 67 F Dudley, Worcester, England
Rel: Visitor

The older son Major is also on the 1901 census.
Check it out on www.census.pro.gov.uk
It is chargable ,you can either pay by credit card or buy vouchers at your local library.
Good luck.

STROYDE, Dudley, CLEMPSON in the Black Country

husseyja — 2008-11-08 00:03:55Z

These are the names I am researching in Dudley/Netherton/W.Bromwich, Amblecote. Richard Stroyde grandson of Richard Stride m.Sarah Jane Garrett. Mother re-married Samuel Clempson who had properties in Netherton and Amblecote. Richard the younger changed his name to Stroyde-Clempson to gain inheritance. This is my mother's maiden name and she is the granddaughter of Richard the younger. Anyone have any connections. Stroyde believed Dudley pronunciation of Stride.

Many thanks for help from anyone.
Jane

VINCENT Family in the black country

jan1553 — 2008-11-08 00:01:40Z

I am looking for relatives of my paternal Grandparents. My grandfather was James Vincent and my grandmother was called Beatrice (nee Prior) Both were born in the black country (Wolverhampton) and lived there all their lives. Any information from any relative would be great

Tipton, England, Black Country

jafrates — 2008-09-24 02:51:48Z

Surnames: HAMMOND, NIGHTINGALE, MOSLEY, PRICE, DUTTON, NICHOLS/NICKOLDS
Resided in Tipton, West Bromwich, Sedgeley, Toll-End Tipton
Most were Iron Pudlers,Boilers with earlier ones in coal industry. Emigrated from this area of Staffordshire to settle in Western Pennsylvania,USA. Would love to have census copies during 1841,1851 & 1861. Any information?

Titpon, England --Black Country-HAMMOND,NIGHTINGALE,MOSLEY, PRICE, DUTTON, NICHOLS/NICKOLDS

jafrates — 2008-09-24 02:48:51Z

Surnames: HAMMOND, NIGHTINGALE, MOSLEY, PRICE, DUTTON, NICHOLS/NICKOLDS
Resided in Tipton, West Bromwich, Sedgeley, Toll-End Tipton

Re: JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

srjacx — 2008-07-29 14:52:01Z

HiDiane:
I have JACKSONS on both sides of my Dad's family...all from Dudley.Is there any more detailed data you could share on the ancestors of your George Jackson?
Some other of my Dudley surnames are Stringer, Owen, woodall,Cope,Willett,Allen, Whitehouse,Reeves, Whale, Wheale, salt, Tilly , Parkes( circa 1700),Jones, Bannister,Packer, Hadley, Hollies,Darbey.
I have lots of Data to share if we can find a Jackson link

JACKSON & PARKES families from the Black Country

2008-07-29 14:51:34Z

I am researching the families of George and Emma Jackson from Oldbury and Joseph and Maria Parkes from Sedgley.

The children of George and Emma Jackson were Matilda, Sarah, Joseph, David (my G-Grandfather), George, Elizabeth, James, Mary Ann, Harry and Ellen, who were born between 1861 and 1886. Harry Jackson emigrated with his family in 1914 to the United States and settled in the New York area.

The children of Joseph and Maria Parkes were Sophia, William, Betsey Ann (my G-Grandmother), Eliza Harriett, Joseph, Ezekiel, Abraham, Leah and Thomas, who were born between 1866 and 1885.

Diane Lowery (Melbourne, Australia)

Emily Ann Saxe TURNER and Rupert Charles BROWN / BURLEIGH in the Black Country

gilburleigh — 2005-11-01 15:36:39Z

Hi! I hope one of you Black Country historians might be able to help me with a little of my family history research, please.

Emily Ann Saxe Turner is my great-great-grandmother. Her family lived in Penshurst-Aylesford-Maidstone area of Kent. My family oral history says she worked for the Wards of Dudley around 1850 and conceived a child by one of them. I have an ambro-type photograph of her that dates to the early 1850s. About 1852/3 she married a Charles William Brown who was a storekeeper at the Royal Navy depot, Deptford. Soon after they went to Hong Kong, returning in 1872 when CWB died. She lived on for many years. I have another photo of her taken in Croydon, Surrey, in about 1900.

Her son Rupert Charles Brown, later Burleigh(1851/2-1919), lived in the Birmingham area in the 1880s to mid-1890s. He was the proprietor of a steam laundry in either Sutton Coldfield or Solihull. This is reputed to have been established with Dudley money. The laundry went bankrupt by 1889 but within 10 years, RCB was established with a new laundry in Thornton Heath, Surrey, by means of a loan from the Dudleys. This was made into a succesful business by his son, Rupert Eric Burleigh(1880/1-1957), and the loan repaid.

Can anyone help me with any aspect of this story, please.

Thanks.

ALLSOP, WILLDIG and WILEMAN from the Black country

SidsFirstGal — 2006-08-31 00:07:31Z

I have information on Allsop, Willdig and Wileman from the Black country. I live in Canada. Most of maternal family is Allsop. Please write.

Black Country Oral History Project

2004-08-10 13:13:18Z

Are you experienced in recording oral history? We're inviting applicants for a project to record memories of former employees at a historically important Black Country business. Reply to this message for an application pack.

JACKSON, OWEN Black Country

budjackson94 — 2001-09-28 08:27:37Z

I am searching for anyone who has a link to my Jackson and Owen ancestors in or near Dudley.

Edward OWEN married Mary Ann JACKSON abt 1876. Their children were Mary ,Edward ,Ellen, Bertha, Ruth, Miriam ,Job Abel, Jane, Thomas, Isaiah ,and Alfred OWEN

Thomas Owen, a brother to Edward, married Ellen Jackson a sister to Mary Ann.Their children were Alfred ,Thomas ,Arthur,Edward, Howard William,Abel, Ellen,Ethel, Florence and Edith OWEN.
Going back one generation the siblings of Mary Ann JACKSON and Ellen JACKSON were :Thomas ,Solomon,William,Ellen,Isaiah,Elizabeth,George and Alfred JACKSON. The parents were Isaiah Jackson and Ellen WHEALE/WHALE
Some of the subsequent family names that descendants have married into are: Newry,Sheldon,Taylor,Hayes,Raybould,Hadley,Willetts,Dudding,Hughes,Davies, Allen,Hewitt.
Unfortunately the information I have on these people is only the last names of spouses of some of the children of Edward and Thomas
Perhaps there are current researchers in the Dudley area who might help me link with the past by connecting me with any of the present descendants. I feel I could put the whole package together if I could work backward from one present link.

Re: Jackson ,Owen Black Country

2003-06-04 03:23:32Z

Hi Bud

I have some same-name Jackson's in my tree - from Wolverhampton, Staffordshire:
- Mary Ann Jackson, Born December 2, 1847, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England; m. HENRY JONES, September 13, 1868
- ELLEN JACKSON, b. Abt. September 1861, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

Not sure if there's any connection, but maybe Mary was on a second marriage or maybe the info I have on Mary is incorrect.

Regards
Tammy

Re: Jackson ,Owen Black Country

2003-06-04 03:29:26Z

Sorry Bud

Just re-read your email and realised this is just a coincidence - the Jackson parent details don't match mine.

Regards
Tammy

Re: Please can someone help solve a mystery?

2006-05-18 14:27:37Z

1881 no connection with West Bromwich

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William G. ROSE Head M Male 27 Thorpe Le Soken, Essex, England Railway Porter
Emma J. ROSE Wife M Female 27 Peterborough, Northampton, England
William W. ROSE Son Male 2 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Frederick G. ROSE Son Male 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Thomas FAIRLAMB Lodger U Male 23 York, York, England Groom
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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Back 22 Belliss St
Census Place Edgbaston, Warwick, England---
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Re: Family Research - NOCK / NEWTON ived and worked in the Black Country

johnbrick25 — 2008-04-02 21:51:26Z

Gene Angel 1. I have seen your message of 4 years ago. I am researching Newton and Nock families of Rowley Regis Staffordshire, from Zeruah Newton who was a sister of Elah Newton who married Joseph Nock. Zer uah and Elah newton's parents were Phoebe and Titus newton but I cannot get further back. Any information would be helpful.

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

brielec — 2008-03-29 08:50:46Z

hi there
have a look at the website below.
www.upthecut.co.uk

Birmingham & Black Country Canals

I have spoken to my daughter and she assures me it is possible to get from Polesworth to Tipton by narrow boat

all the best......brian

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

brielec — 2008-03-25 15:32:41Z

Hello Mary
Please send me an email with a list of the names of people who where boatpeople,
I have been unable to use the email address,please send your postal address, I have a few pages ready to post
you send me an emailI will be able to see if the email
address is ok coming in,to me.
my email brielec@tiscali.co.uk

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

mary_49255 — 2008-03-24 14:13:57Z

MY e-mail is mary_49255@yahoo.com

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

brielec — 2008-03-24 14:08:14Z

Hi There
I have no boatpeople in my family tree,but I do take interest in our local area, which includes a lot of canals and the Netherton Tunnel Which is only 300yds from my house, there is a good view of the the old engine house and of the canals and bridges,It is now Warrens Hall Park.
Living in this area is a lady who was one of the last people to work with her parents on a narrow boat,I remember her uncle who carried Tar Midsland Tar Distillers in Oldbury in the early 1950's,
send me your email address and I will send you some of the articles she has written in the local paper,and some photographs

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

vhdl15464 — 2008-03-24 11:38:03Z

I have John Bushell (Polesworth) whose daughter Sarah (1832)married William Walters (my 2x gt grandfather). Is there any connection to your family?

Velda

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

Sarehole1 — 2008-03-23 14:21:27Z

I have looked at your website, it's very interesting. I couldn't find any canal maps for the area around Tipton though. Would a journey from Polesworth (Warks)to Tipton have been possible along the canal? Have you come across the Bushell family in research?

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

gerald_caswell — 2008-03-20 10:35:55Z

You may be interested in my website which is at.
http://canalboatmen.co.uk/

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

gerald_caswell — 2008-03-20 10:31:44Z

I also have the James family in my tree. and many other canal boat families as well.

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

jacquelineve — 2008-02-18 09:10:45Z

I have found the Eng-canal-people Ancestry mailing list
very helpful.

My Boatmen
Whitehouse
Hodgetts
Jackie.

Re: Boatmen of the Black Country

jacquelineve — 2008-02-10 10:50:52Z

I've found the Eng-canal-people mailing list at Ancestry
to be very helpful.

My boatmen were WHITEHOUSE-associated names by marriage
HODGETTS
SMITH
FLETCHER
KING
WOODWARD
WILLIAMS
ASSON
All boatmen
Jackie.