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Re: any one want a 1911 lookup

michellevance160 — 2009-11-07 14:16:16Z

I'd love it. I am stuck on my great grandfather, Robert Thomas Miller, who was born May 26, 1895 in Norfolk (according to his death certificate). I know he came to NY or Canada around 1912 so he should be on the 1911 census. There is also his mother, Mary Ann Williams or Williamson, his younger brothers William and Ernest, and an older sister, Anna. His father, William,a Presbyterian Minister, died before Robert came to America so I'm not sure if he was alive in 1911 or not. My grandmother is turning 90 in January and I'm trying to get this done as a gift. Thank you for offering to look this up, I appreciate it. Michelle Vance

Crutchfield in England

crutchfieldusmc — 2009-11-06 11:23:18Z

I am trying to connect the Crutchfields in England to my Crutchfields in Va. I've got Richacd and Hannah in Va. before 1700 but can't connect them to England

Re: George Dearlove

susie07 — 2009-11-05 15:21:57Z

Many Many thanks for all the info on George Dearlove. Still not able to find the link between Matilda Isabella Smith (Dearlove) who was at his bedside at his death in Reading in 1852. She had married my Paternal Great Grandfather Benjamin Smith the year before.

Re: Robert ATKINS died in Broadmoor?

JHarwood1960 — 2009-11-02 19:40:10Z

I've had a look at the Berkshire Burial index but there is no-one of that name buried at Crowthorne (the parish where Broadmoor inmates were buried, one of mine who died 1912 was buried @ St John the Baptist, Crowthorne), though of course the family may have had him buried elsewhere.

Easthampstead, Berkshire is the registration district for Broadmoor should you ever find a death registration in the .

any one want a 1911 lookup

carolelauraliasi — 2009-11-02 07:32:36Z

any one want me to look in 1911 census?

regards

carole

Re: PATIENCE/COOK Bethnal Green, UK

ELLinSpain — 2009-11-01 23:56:47Z

sorry, fingers going toooooo fast - should have said copy of birth certificate

Re: PATIENCE/COOK Bethnal Green, UK

ELLinSpain — 2009-11-01 23:56:08Z

To WENDY

Do you have a copy of your gran? as it will show mums maiden name + dads occupation - this helps to go backwards with confidence

Re: BULL's in Winkfield @ 1927

AlanJamesBull75 — 2009-11-01 19:52:24Z

Thanks for your reply

I am descendesd from William Bull and Emma Hibbert)Great Grandparents), through James Arthur Bull and Annie Collins Grand Parents) James Arthur Bull Beatrice Bull nee Kirton ( Parents)

I have been able to trace William from Birth in 1826 to Death in 1903.The marrige certifcate show a Johmn Bull as father( and John Hibbert)

I had found that he and one (now two William born 1853) sons
had worked in the Brewery I can not remeber the owners name at this moment, the Brewrey was in St Johns Road Islewoth and was still ther till llate 1980's or early 1990's. The owners did provide monies for the building of the St Johns church and also the Alms Houses that are still standing today.There is aplaque outside the church that outlines this ansd a few more facts

Another of his sons John worked in Soap Factory this was on teh London Road Isleworth it was PEARS SOAP and was there till the 1960. This became offices and had a big Sports Field I think for Beecchams and just recently this became Flats

James Arthur , I had found that he had serveresd in the Army. His Service Record had caused me some concern where it showed he served till October 1902. He was shown as living in The Lodge Gunnersbury House ( Chiswick) in June of 1897 when he married Annie Collins, this was because he was first released form the Army in to Special Reserve early 1897 and was recalled October 1899 and was in South Africa which was the Boar War.

I am working on a number of sides to both the Bull and Kirton family

What would be useful is any help relating to Bull's Whiitton
(Seaton Rd Hounslow Rd or Saxon Ave Hanworth)these os=are address's of James Arthur Annine Collins descendants.

I still llve in the area and have a son and daughter-in-law who livwe about 1/2 a mile from Seaton Rd

I know that there are otrher looking so who knows what may happen.

If you wish I could foward my Email Adress

Thanks Alan

Re: BULL's in Winkfield @ 1927

samsaunders11 — 2009-11-01 14:19:04Z

Yes, been a while since I did much research, but I am descended from George Bull, brother of James, and son of William Bull and Emma Hibbert. I will look up your tree shortly. From my searches, James was in the Royal Artillery?? The only children I had on my notes to date was Ellen & Beatrice.

George Bull was actually my great grandfather, he was 53 when my grandmother was born in 1913 and I do have a photo of him in 1940 aged 80. I am also in touch with descendants of Frederick, another brother to James and George. Fred had a son Sydney and then a son Reg, who it turns out lives only 5 miles away from me so we met up a year or so ago. The family resemblance was amazing!

I am aware that William Bull (1826) parents were John Bull and Maria Fritter (Flitter). After John died in 1835 Maria married again to a gentleman with surname Dicker. They had more children and at one stage in late census records one of the Bull's lives next door but 3 to his half "Dicker" brother.

Not sure what you are know about the eldest brother, William born 1853? He committed suicide in the Brewery where he worked - possibly depression or something to do with his wife having an affair but not sure what to make of the newspaper report of the inquest.

Happy to share any info I have on the Bulls.

Re: PATIENCE/COOK Bethnal Green, UK

wepaquin — 2009-10-31 23:47:50Z

Hi Julie ... I am searching info on the Cook family of Bethnal Green as well. My great Thomas William Cook who married a Harriett ________ had 2 children, Thomas and Lucy (my grandmother b. 1901). Do you know this line of Cooks?

Any info appreciated.

Wendy

Re: George Dearlove

uscriders — 2009-10-31 22:17:26Z

☼ Dearlove, Pte George, (1055), 13th LD (p213)
Enl 1841 or 1842. At Coventry 3rd Mstr [54-1-5]. At Hampton Court 1st Mstr & Abd Mary Ann 2nd Mstr [54-2-5]. Rode in Charge [Cit on Fr Medal]. In Crimea all 3 Mstrs [55-2-5][55-3-5]. At Eupatoria 1st & 2nd Msts, then at Scut 3rd Mstr [55-4-5] & all 3 Mstrs [56-1-5]. W/ Svc Trps entire period [54-1 to 56-1]. Medal [459] w/ A [459], B [487], I [459], & S [478] Clasps. Note: Citation for French Medal credits Dearlove w/ serving in the affairs of the “Bouljanak” [Bulganek] & McKenzie’s Farm, the battles of the Alma, Balaclava, & Inkerman, the Siege of Sebastopol, & the Expedition to Eupatoria [AS].

ANTHONY MCANDREW

margaretspence27 — 2009-10-31 14:33:32Z

I AM DOING RESEARCH ON MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER
ANTHONY MCANDREW, BORN COUNTY MAYO 1838, AND DIED IN HUNSLET IN 1877.
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE NAME OF HIS FATHER,AND WHAT TOWN IN MAYO WAS HE BORN.

CATHERINE CONNOR

margaretspence27 — 2009-10-31 14:22:23Z

CATHERINE CONNOR WAS BORN IN COUNTY MAYO IRELAND IN 1841,
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TOWN.
SHE WAS THE WIFE OF ANTHONY MCANDREW, SHE LIVED IN HUNSLET
TILL HER DEATH IN 1918

Re: BULL's in Winkfield @ 1927

AlanJamesBull75 — 2009-10-30 21:37:13Z

Like you I to arer also researching the Bull Family line and have had some success. It looks very likely that we are both decended from Willliam Bull and Emma Hibbert.My line is through James Arthur Bull and Annie Collins

My Family Tree is under Bulll-Kirton

I know that this reply is late but I am only just getting use to this programme

Re: Missing Hatt's from the 1780's backwards

lioneltook — 2009-10-30 12:54:22Z

I chasing old posts for information about the Berks/Hants Hatts. My GGGrandmother was Elizabeth Hatt, b. Berks in 1845, whose parents were David Hatt/Hannah Hoar. David was from Heckfield and his parents were Richard/Elizabeth Allen. Richard's parents were David & Sarah. All this taken from the 'All Thorne' tree on Ancestry. My Elizabeth married Robert Batchelor in Marylebone in 1871 and my people descend from there. Do you have any info to share? All the best. Lionel Took

Looking for Elizabeth (Lizzie) Goodship

grk56 — 2009-10-29 21:22:50Z

Trying to trace Elizabeth Goodship who is my Great Grandmother and mother to Hilda & Elsie Cooper,my Grandmother, nee Davis.
Lived at 95 Field Road, Reading. I have birth cert's for Hilda & Elsie with the father being George Davis, Elizabeth was formerley Kislingbury when living in Yorkshire, but all searches for marriage details so far draw a blank. Latterly Elizabeth was also known to have lived in Connaught Road, Reading.

Re Aaron or Abraham Stevens Berkshire

sexbombsclare — 2009-10-26 11:55:35Z

He married as Abraham Stevens, 1/10/1838 Swyncombe to Lydia Norcut.

Aaron Stevens c 1821 Wargrave

sexbombsclare — 2009-10-26 08:34:33Z

Has anyone information about Aaron Stevens born circa 1821 in Wargrave?

Re: Nalders from Newbury

Shurre62 — 2009-10-08 19:42:18Z

Josephine, I don't recall if I had contacted you or not but I am descended from Charles and Mary Munday Nalder. Is this the line you speak of? Shurre@aol.com

Re: William SAWYER abt.1809 East Hagbourne

JoeEmery79 — 2009-10-14 16:55:59Z

Hello Alberta24. I have only just seen your post on William Sawyer of Hagbourne. I have the PRs for St.Andrews church East Hagbourne (there is no church at West Hagbourne)and was brought up in the next village. A Charles SAYER and Mary
Lambourne,spinster, married there, by Banns, on 20.1.1805. Their witnesses were Anne Maria Higgs and Martha Higgs. No Charles Sawyer married there except those in 1845 and 1884, so I expect Charles Sayer was probably a Sawyer. However, Charles & Mary SAYER had their first and ONLY son baptised there on 9.6.1805. There followed seven baptisms of children of Charles & Mary SAWYER, as follows :-
20.10.1807 William. 2.12.1810 Charlotte (who was buried there on 13.7.1813) 23.5.1813 John. 25.2.1816 Joseph
14.5.1818 Thomas. 22.4.1821 Job. 31.8.1823 Charles.
No Charles Sawyer was baptised there before 1823, but a Charles SAYER was baptised there on 8.2.1782 the son of John & Elizabeth SAYER. The only John SAYERS married there were in 1704 & 1716, and the only John Sawyer married there was in 1845. I hope this makes sense, and is not too late. Do please contact me again if you wish. Joe

Burials. Reading Thomas & Catherine Hardy

groundweed — 2009-10-22 14:19:27Z

Trying to track down where my G. Grandparents were buried.
My mother now 84 thinks they were buried in the cemetery in Norcott road (now run down and part built on)and that it was the cenetery for St Georges church some distance away.
Can anyone help.

Re: William Wiltshire and Esther Burrows in Berkshire

abc58296 — 2009-10-17 13:38:04Z

Hello Gaynor,
Responding to a message from 2007 Re: Wiltshire & Burrows I have quite a bit on that family if you would like to contact me abc58296@bigpond.net.au
Regards
John

Re: Louisa May GARRAWAY, Maidenhead

carolebrandt53 — 2009-10-16 20:52:52Z

Hello, Yes it could be. I was very young when she died so I may have the name a bit wrong. I know she was married to a Bartlett though. Do you have any other info? Thanks.

Re: Emans of Berkshire

dm1410pm — 2009-10-06 11:04:18Z

I see from your family tree you have John Bridewell (Bridle, Bridall) 1819 Potterne, Wiltshire. He is part of my ancesters, one of his daugters, with his second wife was my great Grandmother. If you would like any of the info I have please get in touch. Best wishes Pauline.

Re: Green in Streatley

lyn_somerset — 2009-10-03 21:42:25Z

Hi Phil,

My GREENS come from Streatley too. I noticed you are on one of the side branches to my line.

Lyn.

Re: Re' Gabriel Chivers b cica 1797 Harwell, Berkshire.

lyn_somerset — 2009-10-09 11:18:26Z

James CHIVERS (m) Sarah LEWINGTON [botp] by Banns 27 June 1796 in Harwell. Wit: Edward and James WICKS

James CHIVERS buried in Harwell 26 January 1848. Aged 78yrs
Sarah CHIVERS buried in Harwell 1 August 1855. Aged 80yrs.

Children:

James baptised 2 October 1796. Bur: 11 April 1873. Aged 76yrs.
Gabriel baptised 18 February 1798 (note: CHEVERS)
Sarah baptised 15 June 1800 (note: CHEVERS). Married Joseph BOWELL {wid} 23 December 1839.
Sophia baptised 2 January 1803
Mary baptised 17 February 1805
John baptised 7 October 1807
Rachel baptised 4 July 1810
Elizabeth baptised 1 September 1816
Emma baptised 4 June 1820 (note: father a thatcher). Bur: 23 April 1849. Aged 28yrs.

*****************

James CHIVERS (m) Sarah ?

Sarah CHIVERS buried in Harwell 30 June 1813. Aged 70yrs.
James CHIVERS buried in Harwell 29 March 1816. Aged 74yrs.

Children:

James baptised 27 April 1770
John baptised 24 March 1773. Bur: 9 August 1829. Aged 56yrs.
Gabril baptised 30 September 1775. Bur: 7 May 1793
Anne baptised 29 March 1778
Mary baptised 23 July 1780
Sarah baptised 9 March 1783. (note: CHEVERS)
Rachael baptised 2 July 1786

*****************

Possible baptism:

Sarah LEWENTON baptised 10 July 1774 to John/Sarah in Chilton.

[Talbot, J. (nd), Transcription of Harwell Parish Registers, Oxfordshire Parish Register Transcripts Wantage Registration District Vol.2 CD ROM, OFHS, Oxford]

Re: St Nicolas Newbury PR's -SHERWOOD

slimsmedley — 2009-10-13 22:12:05Z

Thank you Jane, that gives me something to follow up. Greatful for the help

Darryl

St Nicolas Newbury PR's -SHERWOOD

slimsmedley — 2009-10-08 23:23:09Z

I can't seem to find if the parish registers for St Nicolas have been transcribed and published.

I'm searching for the baptism of Henry SHERWOOD in Newbury abt. 1804 and a possible marriage to Eliza STYLES abt 1828/9.

I'm hoping that sks will be able to help.

Darryl,

Sydney Australia

Re: St Nicolas Newbury PR's -SHERWOOD

Jane1956Burrell — 2009-10-10 00:34:57Z

The PRs for St Nicolas have been partly transcibed (1538-1746) bit not published (copies available in the Berkshire Record Office and a few libraries).

There are also various indexes: C 1538-1634, 1655-1741, 1783-1884, M 1634-1746, 1754-1854, B 1538-1746, 1798-1890.

This sort of information is available on the BRO website for all Berks parishes and non-conformist churches.

Burials and marriages will be in the Berkshire FHS Marriage and Burials Indexes.

Re: Louisa May GARRAWAY, Maidenhead

donnaregan145 — 2009-10-24 22:28:43Z

hello again!
yes she married henry bartlett in 1912 they had 6 children,he died in 1931.She remarried in 1933 to george gideon garraway and they had one child.He died in july 1952 she died on christmas eve 1964 and they lived in Courthouse Road Maidenhead.what do you reckon hope its of some use!

Re: Louisa May GARRAWAY, Maidenhead

donnaregan145 — 2009-10-16 20:37:54Z

hello carol
could it be mary louisa garraway formerly bartlett maiden name newman born 1894 beaconsfield bucks died 1964

Re' Gabriel Chivers b cica 1797 Harwell, Berkshire.

geebrooks9 — 2009-10-05 13:04:50Z

Hi, I would much apprciate any information regarding the birth date for Gabriel Chivers also his parents names if possible. He Married Sophia Juniper in 1821. He was my Great x 4 grandfather. Thank you, Ray Chivers.

1851/1861 Census Lookup please

avidt1 — 2009-10-04 11:50:51Z

Hi

Looking for the family of Elizabeth BORER born @1840, father George, sister Vicrorine.

Elizabeth married Hurst later in 1861 and I am trying to find out where she and her sister were born and also info on her parents.

Many Thanks

David

Re: Strouds in Illinois

fdcnet — 2009-10-11 02:18:01Z

G daddy... its me your brother....J. I have a whole bunch of info on your grandfather. fdcnet@aol.com

Re nailers bucklebury

ceceliadelaney — 2009-10-09 01:12:58Z

Hi i tryed to send you the parish records of Bucklebury but i don't think it went through.Let me know and i will try again Cecelia

Re: Henry BARRETT b. Berkshire

ceceliadelaney — 2009-10-11 17:34:52Z

Hi dont have any concreate info ,but i used to live in West Hanney Berkshire and there were a couple of Barrett Familys There Cecelia

Re: Henry Barrett

ceceliadelaney — 2009-10-08 22:38:48Z

Hi there were quite a few Barret families in the early 1900's in West Hanney Berkshire one had a lumber and building business another that remember was a farmer, both of thoes business could have been passed down .They both would have been born in the later 1800's regards Cecelia

Re: Henry Barrett

ceceliadelaney — 2009-10-08 22:37:08Z

Re: Robert William BRADNAM: bn 1887 Woolhampton

iceman90_1 — 2009-10-25 01:23:26Z

What sort of information ?

Re: In Hurley Berks. Looking for Heath, Hicks, Buckland families

janet_sains — 2009-10-08 12:12:15Z

Hi
Could you be looking for surname variants here, if so how about Hakes for Hicks?
Looking at the marriage record on the IGI for Richard Hicks and Martha Buckland, it says both their fathers were called William and there is a William Hicks in Hurley in the 1841 and 1851 census.
In 1841,
Piece 11 Book 11 Foilo 5 Page 4
Parish Hurley
William Hicks 70
Hannah 60
Mary 20

Looking for baptisms in Hurley to parents William and Hannah you can find
Richard Hakes born 18 August 1814; baptized 11 September 1814
also
Sarah Elizabeth Hicks bap. 11 June 1809
Hannah Heath bap. 9 June 1811
Mary Hakes born 31 July 1816; bap. 25 August 1816

With rounding down of ages in 1841 looks as though Mary Hicks could be the Mary Hakes born in 1816.

In the Berkshire Burial Index, in St Peter, Knowl Hill (Hurley)
Hannah Hicks buried 16 May 1852, aged 80, abode/address Warren Hill
William Hicks/Heath (listed under both) buried 23 October 1853, aged 86, abode Wargrave, Cockpole

It's possible that Martha may have been baptized in Hurley on 23 January 1814 as Martha Buckling (born 26 December 1813)
to William and Susannah.
There is a marriage in Hurley in 1804 for William Bucklin and Susannah Brown and then four baptisms in nearby Bray to William Bucklin/Buckeln/Buckland and Susannah (gives her maiden name as Brown). Then in Hurley, after Martha, they have George and Matilda, both Buckling.
To confuse things a little there's a William and Hannah Buckling having children in Hurley until about 1804 (Susannah)

In the Burial index, in Hurley St Mary, and trying to seperate the two Williams out,
Susanna Buckling buried 9 September 1821 aged 38, abode Hurley
William Buckland buried 17 March 1848 aged 70, abode Hurley

I know there are a lot of variations in spelling in these registers, no doubt caused by pronounciation, but I don't know if that's the explanation for Hicks/Heath or not.

Hope this is useful
Kind regards
Janet

Re: 1851/1861 Census Lookup please

ELLinSpain — 2009-10-05 14:59:04Z

1861
Name: Eliza Borer
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Fra B S
Civil parish: Winnersh
Ecclesiastical parish: Bearwood
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wokingham
Sub-registration district: Wargrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 8c

WITH THE BLACKMAN FAMILY

Re: Strouds in Illinois

ELLinSpain — 2009-10-10 15:49:38Z

WW2

Name: Harvey Lee Stroud
UNEMPLOYED
Birth Date: 12 Aug 1892
Birth Place: Alto Pass
Residence: Alto PASS, Illinois
WHO WILL KNOW YOU: JENNIE TRIPP (SISTER) OF COBDEN
Race: White
No. 1848
Roll: 30955_165979

Re: Strouds in Illinois

ELLinSpain — 2009-10-10 15:47:11Z

WW1

Name: Harvey L Stroud
SELF EMPLOYED FARMER
MARRIED + 1 CHILD
County: Union, ALTO PASS
State: Illinois
Birthplace: Illinois; ALTO PASS
Birth Date: 12 Aug 1892
Race: Caucasian (White)
TALL & STOUT WITH GREY EYES & LIGHT HAIR
FHL Roll Number: 1642746
DraftBoard: 0

Re: Strouds in Illinois

ELLinSpain — 2009-10-10 15:39:14Z

Name: Harvey Stroud
SSN: 344-30-8403
Last Residence: 62920 Cobden, Union, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 12 Aug 1893
Died: Oct 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (1953-1955)

Re: Strouds in Illinois

ELLinSpain — 2009-10-10 14:04:39Z

this is on the UK board but I believe you refer to

WW2 DRAFT
Name: Fred Bell Stroud
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1880
Birth Place: Union Co
Residence: Cobden, UNION, Illinois
Race: White
No. 1768
PERSON WHO WILL KNOW YOU: JENNIE TRIPP OF COBDEN
Roll: 30955_165979

****************

1900
Name: Sarah J Coleman
Home in 1900: Alto Pass, Union, Illinois
Age: 49
Birth Date: May 1851
Birthplace: Illinois
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 8
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : Alto Pass Precinct (Excl. Alto Pass Vill.), Union, Illinois
+
Name: Fred Stroud
Home in 1900: Alto Pass, Union, Illinois
Age: 19
Birth Date: Feb 1881
Birthplace: Illinois
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Son
Father's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother's Name: Sarah J
Mother's Birthplace: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
+
Name: Jennie Stroud
Home in 1900: Alto Pass, Union, Illinois
Age: 13
Birth Date: Sep 1886
Birthplace: Illinois
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Daughter
+
Name: James M Stroud
Home in 1900: Alto Pass, Union, Illinois
Age: 10
Birth Date: Jan 1890
Birthplace: Illinois
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Son
+
Name: Harvey L Stroud
Home in 1900: Alto Pass, Union, Illinois
Age: 7
Birth Date: Aug 1892
Birthplace: Illinois
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Son

Re: White Waltham parish records

motago — 2009-10-05 00:19:58Z

Thanks for that advice. I have used the Berkshire Records Office to do research for me on other occasions and they are very helpful. I live in South-East Asia so try whenever possible to do the research on the net. The IGI has some records but not for the period I need.

Re: Strouds in Illinois

gstroud51 — 2009-10-09 04:04:55Z

Hello - I am gathering info on this line. I am directly related to Fred Bell STroud. Am trying to find same records as you are. He is my grandfather. My father is Fred Junior Stroud.

Re: Origins of James LUKER

alliegallop — 2009-10-07 12:24:33Z

Hi

Could they married in Hungerford district of Berkshire, England in 1845? If not where were they married? if you got marriage cert already then please tell me what is the name of James' father.

Robert ATKINS died in Broadmoor?

carolinedavis007 — 2009-10-04 23:03:46Z

Looking for info on Robert Atkins b 15 Dec 1869 in Grimsby.
Greetings from Canada!

In 1891 was resident of 55 Cunningham Road, Hammersmith, illegitimate son of Marion "Maria" Atkins.

Oral history has it that he was an accountant, King's Counsel, Barrister, and that there was some kind of scandal resulting in his death in Broadmoor.

Can some kind person help me out here?

Thanks
Caroline

Re: White Waltham parish records

reasearchlady1 — 2009-10-04 21:21:46Z

Hello, as White Waltham is in Berkshire you should be able to get some information from the Berkshire Records Office which is situated just of Castle hill in Reading. Signposted as you go up Castle Hill from the IDR. I have been there on many occasions and found Records of my relations. The Kelley's Directory is very good. The staff are very helpful as well. If you do not live in the area you should phone them and ask if they can help you. Hope this is useful to you.