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Re: WHITE birth in Chester

robyndixon145 — 2009-11-08 00:44:43Z

Thank you for your reply.
I would like to try to find a baptism but am not sure where to start. Thomas's son William was born 1854 District of Cathedral Division in the County of Chester and City and County of the City of Chester. William was married at the Primitive Methodist Chappel George Street in the District of Chester County of Chester/Flint and City of Chester. William's address was at the time of his marriage in 1874 7 Gloucester Street Chester. I am not familiar with Chester as I live on the other side of the world. I am assuming that these places are close in which case who do I contact for a Baptism record????? I have strenuously searched census records but have not come across anything that looks like a match in Chester but have found William in Eastbourne prior to moving to Australia.
Thanks again.

Re: WHITE birth in Chester

robyndixon145 — 2009-11-08 00:10:55Z

Hello Linda
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I do not have a date of birth for Thomas. His son William was born on 16.03.1854. Mother Elizabeth according to birth CT. By the time William married in 1874 Thomas was noted as deceased on the marrige CT. So I have no real proof that there was a marriage at this stage or that Thomas existed. My tree is the WHITE BULLOCK FAMILY TREE if you would like to look. Thanks again.

MacIntyre BOSWELL b. Congleton 1857, m. Bridget Sheen

2009-11-07 19:05:47Z

Looking for information on MacIntyre Boswell born in Congleton 1857, married Bridget Sheen, lived in Macclesfield.
Also any information on Bromfield, Dean, Sheilds & Sheen.
All from Cheshire.
Brian Frame

Re: WHITE birth in Chester

LindaWilliams1209 — 2009-11-07 19:03:56Z

what date is your thomas white born
because we have many thomas white's in our
family tree

Re: WHITE birth in Chester

eworld_2 — 2009-11-07 12:57:48Z

There are two or three things that might get you a bit further. First see if you can find your gggrandfather on the census and see whom he is living with and perhaps a few names in the locality. Secondly see if you can find a baptism and check the original entry, there's sometimes the father's name added in in some form or other. Thirdly see if there is a subsequent marriage for his mother

Re: MacIntyre Boswell b. Congleton 1857, m. Bridget Sheen

PaulMellor30 — 2009-11-06 02:51:14Z

Hi Brian

I know your post has been a long time but I thought I'd reply anyway. I have sen numerous post of yours on the internet regarding the Boswell family. I'm related to MacIntyre Boswell and have only been able to trace the line back as far as Solivano and Comfort Boswell. You appear to have done alot of research on the Boswells and I was wondering whether you would be able to help me with their ancestors.

Thanks

Paul

Re: DODD in Birkenhead area

lyndahughes3490 — 2009-11-05 18:06:36Z

Hi I am also a dodd from birkenhead
lynda

Bollington Cemetery Records

tashrigley — 2009-11-04 03:46:36Z

Hi:

Looking for shrigley's buried either in Bollington or Potts Shrigley

Thanks

Todd

Re: Inglewood Estates, Ledsham, Wirral & Mr H A Fox

moleydee — 2009-11-04 00:50:38Z

there is a foxes riding school in badgers rake lane ledsham my family worked and lived in that area til 1940s my grt grandad was a cowherdsman his wife told a tale of mr fox loosing his ear on her washing line when he raced through fox hunting in about 1920s she reportedly hid his ear under her wash basket :) not sure how true but a good tale
regards dee reilly

Re: macclesfield silk weavers

QuiltSLM — 2009-11-03 23:39:42Z

just happened upon this message board when trying to find out more information re silk weavers.

I was born in Macclesfield as was my husband,(we are still in the UK but not Macclesfield)
his great grandfather Peter Wright went to Paterson NJ IN 1880 with some of his family due to the decline in Silk manufacturing in the UK.
One mystery remains, his son Peter, my husbands grandfather is reputed to have formed the 1st Football team in the US, we have a photo dated 1884, stating formation of club 1880.
Peter Wright Captain.
I cannot find any record of his passage to the US with or without the family.
He either didn't go or returned soon as his family were all born in Macclesfield.
Maybe family history refers to Peter senior forming the club not his son.
Can anyone help solve this mystery which has gone on for more years than I care to remember.
Patricia Wright

Re: George (poss Richard) COOKE 1859/60 Odd Rode Cheshire

spantel1 — 2009-11-01 17:39:16Z

Hello again,
I have the marriage cert now. But it hasn't helped much. His father is another George deceased at the time of the marriage in 1880.
I can't think where else to search, any ideas?

Re: WHITE birth in Chester

robyndixon145 — 2009-10-31 00:08:48Z

Thanks for that. I had thought that father/husband may have died prior to birth of child but I presume that that would be different and father's name would have been noted on birth certificate.

Re: ADAMS in Birkenhead area

mlskjk56 — 2009-10-30 23:55:59Z

Thank you for the information. I searched my information and discovered that I didn't actually have burial information for John and Nancy (BURKEY) ADAMS. I have the death certificate for Nancy and was given the details of the death certificate for John, which was ordered by one of my cousins.

Are you a descendant?

Marie

Caleb WARHURST, Stockport

j_sandercockneeReeve — 2009-10-30 13:30:55Z

Does anyone have access to Non conformist registers for High St presbyterian Stockport? Dr Williams Non Conformist register?
I am seeking information on any Warhurst Births marriages and deaths in this area from 1770 -1840
Caleb was a minister.
Also James Warhurst organist at Shrewsbury Abbey 1865
Thanks Jenny

Re: WHITE birth in Chester

velpremus — 2009-10-30 13:29:24Z

No father named on the birth certificate means that the mother could not get the father to acknowlege his child. This was a legal requirement to prevent a child being registered to some well to do man - and later being brought forward as a heir to his fortune.

That Thomas White was named as his "father" on his marriage certificate proves nothing.

WHITE birth in Chester

robyndixon145 — 2009-10-30 13:28:43Z

HAVE OBTAINED A BIRTH CT FOR MY GG GRANDFATHER WILLIAM WHITE WITH NO FATHER NOTED BUT ON COPY OF HIS MARRIAGE CT HIS FATHER IS NOTED AS THOMAS WHITE (DECEASED). CAN SOMEBODY ADVISE ME WHERE TO GO NEXT. BIRTH WAS IN CHESTER AND CITY AND COUNTY OF THE CITY OF CHESTER

Re: ADAMS in Birkenhead area

June058 — 2009-10-30 12:39:43Z

Curious as to the source for the burial of John ADAMS and wife Nancy at Woodchurch.

I believe both were buried at St Bartholomew, Thurstaston. Nancy being buried 30 Oct 1839 and John 30 March 1852, my source being the Parish Registers of St Bartholomew, Thurstaton.

Re: Caleb Warhurst, Stockport

victoriabeckamforever — 2009-10-30 07:50:13Z

hi my name is sophie warhurst, just sorting through my father in laws books and come across one with the history of pubs in the area (stockport) Caleb Warhurst is in the top 25 serving licensees at the spring gardens Marple bridge for 35 years from 1837 to 1872. Hope this helps you

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

ellee — 2009-10-19 15:18:36Z

Hi Puddington,

Thank you for this wonderful information. The history lessons are the most fun as they bring the family to life.

yes I found the other board and contacted Elaine who already has responded. We have much to share.

While online family trees do carry alot of erroneous info -they also are able to aide one over a slump. The key is to discern and verify. If not for an online tree I would only be on generation 3 instead of generation 5. So I am very grateful to all who have put me on the path to my roots.

I find it all very exciting
Thank you Again
Ellee

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

ellee — 2009-10-20 02:38:21Z

Hi Puddington,

I certainly understand your frustration in giving information after such a response. I was helping one of my cousins with his family tree at his request. He became upset when I informed him some of his information was incorrect. He didn't correct it so I gave up helping him.

My point being that once someone accepts erroneous data as correct -they may become reluctant to change it.

I'll give Elaine your regards when we make contact again. have a good day.

Ellee

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

ellee — 2009-10-19 05:02:15Z

thank you

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

ellee — 2009-10-18 22:33:25Z

Thank you for your response. I'm excited to see this information. So, I gather we are cousins. Nice to meet you. Would you happen to have a family tree online that I could peruse? I'll have to send for those wills.

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

ellee — 2009-10-17 17:02:09Z

William son of Andrew Huntington And Elizabeth White
died Sept 15 1916 had 5 children

Andrew Huntington died Mar 14 1941 Victoria General Hosp
9 children

Andrew son of Nathaniel and Anne Coyne 8 children

Nathaniel son of Joseph and Esther Huntington

Jos son of Nathaniel and Catherine Ball

wish I could go back further

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

ellee — 2009-10-17 16:23:50Z

I am wondering how I can get a copy of this book as these are my ancestors. Thank you

Re: ALLEN of Macclesfield

rxc1021 — 2009-10-09 22:08:22Z

Hi Neil. They are all parish records that are found in International Genealogical Index (www.familysearch.org). You can find them for yourself by using the Advanced Search feature under the Search Records tab, and choosing IGI.

I began by finding birth records for the two people that you knew were related, Maria and Thomas Allen, which showed the same parents. Then I did a parent search in IGI, by putting in the father's first and last names and the mother's first name (the only other items you enter are the region, the country, and the county). This brings up a list of births to those parents in that county - of course, not all may be the ones you want, but it is a very helpful feature in general.

Another way to do this, but then you have to check the parents' names for each entry, is to use Hugh Wallis' IGI search feature, choose England, Cheshire,and Macclesfield, and type Allen into the search engine. It brings up the list of births for the chosen parish for a specific period in time - in this case, 1793 to 1812, and 1813-1837.

There is a Cheshire BMD index but it only starts with 1837 when civil registration began so it is not helpful for the period of these births. http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Hope this helps.
Rosemary

Cheshire BMD updates 11 October 2009

mi2early — 2009-10-11 15:59:40Z

From http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cheshirebmd/update.html -

11 October 2009

Births:
1,002 for Bebington, registers at Wirral (1908-1910)
2,542 for Tranmere, registers at Wirral (1920-1922)

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Many thanks to all responsible.

Search for your Cheshire ancestors at http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/

Cheshire BMD updates 28 October 2009

mi2early — 2009-10-28 18:22:56Z

From http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cheshirebmd/update.html -

28 October 2009

Births:
Replaced 6,017 for Hazel Grove, registers at Stockport (1837-1871) adding mother's maiden name.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Many thanks to all responsible.

Search for your Cheshire ancestors at http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/

Cheshire BMD updates 19 & 25 October 2009

mi2early — 2009-10-27 20:40:25Z

From http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cheshirebmd/update.html -

19 October 2009

Marriages
1,889 for Heaton Reddish, St Mary, registers at Stockport (1865-1918) replacing the existing registers 1 to 4
376 for Norris Bank, St Martin, registers at Stockport (1901-1922) replacing the existing registers 1 to 2

25 October 2009
Births:
Replaced various Tameside birth registers to correct errors and omissions.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Many thanks to all responsible.

Search for your Cheshire ancestors at http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/

Re: macclesfield silk weavers

LSargant — 2009-10-10 00:23:28Z

Hi Patricia, my name is Margaret Weston and I also have an ancestor who came to Patterson from Macclesfield involved with the silk industry. In fact he died leaving a patent for an invention he made in regards to the silk weaving.
His name was Buckley Rowbothom Weston. He spent quite a few years travelling from his native Macclesfield coming here to Australia and the goldfields, then to New Zealand and back to Macclesfield and then the final Journey to Patterson.

Regards,

Margaret

Frandley Society of Friends Antrobus

Thomwood1 — 2009-10-24 14:50:29Z

Does anyone know of any Birth/Marriage/Death records available icluding graves if still recognisable for the above? A few are appearing on Familysearch which I have seen.

Re: SPRAGG family in Cheshire

wittonal — 2009-10-24 17:51:29Z

Hi.
I also have two photographs of I assume is the Spragg family of Orrell Farm. Mobberley. One is of possibly Mum & Dad with five young people and a gentleman with a bowler hat. plus two dogs.
The second photograph is of a Lady with a goat. I'm not quite sure who is who in the two photographs.
My interest in the family is Elizabeth Spragg.(nee Pearson.)
She is the sister of my grand-father Frank Pearson.(b1868.)in Altrincham. Have you any information on Elizabeth and also photographs of the Pearson side of the family

Regards........David.

Re: SPRAGG family in Cheshire

wittonal — 2009-10-24 23:10:42Z

Hello Spingo.
Thanks for your reply with regards to the Spraggs. I don't appear to be able to find your Email address. Sorry about that. my address is wittonal@hotmail.co.uk
Where are you based.? in Cheshire.?

Regards.....David.

CHURCHILL in New Ferry & Birkenhead

cglover167 — 2009-10-24 20:51:57Z

Hello,
i am looking for info on Christopher George Churchill,he married Kathleen Knowles in 1945,Christopher lived in Seaview New Ferry and Kathleen lived in Elmbank Rd New Ferry, Christopher had been married before in 1940 to Ivy Warburton.

Also his brother Albert Harry Churchill who married Jessie Roach from Pitt St Tranmere in 1926.
Both were married in Birkenhead Registry Office.

If anyone recognises these names please get in touch, maybe they are ''YOUR'' grandparents??

Chris.

Re: SPRAGG family in Cheshire

lyndahughes3490 — 2009-10-29 22:15:29Z

Hi 1891 census
george spragg age 34 farmer born shropshire
elizabeth " " 25 " altringham
albert " " 4 " mobberly
george " " 2 " "
martha " " 1 " "
martha " " 63 wid " shoropshire
charles " " 22 " "
harold " " 26 " sale
alice r " " 16 " "
lynda

Re: ALLEN of Macclesfield

neilr127 — 2009-10-09 22:15:09Z

Thank you

Re: macclesfield silk weavers

neilr127 — 2009-10-10 13:29:14Z

I didint know that skild was such a big thing in Macclesfield. The two postings right below yours about the Allens are mine and they and the family they married into in Macclesfield were listed on census records as "silk manufacturing" Good luck.

Neil

source for Macclesfield birth records?

neilr127 — 2009-10-15 20:09:48Z

what is the best way to confirm with original sources an IGI member submitted marriage record from Macclesfield?
The record is James ALLEN to Hannah SLACK on 3 May 1801. Im guesisng the event took place in Christ Church. i cant use BMD and found nothing on ancestry.com.uk, though Im not very good at using the latter.

Neil

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

ALISONWILLIAMS20 — 2009-10-18 11:11:40Z

A search on Google for "Wallasey at War" comes up with a number of places where you can order the book. ISBN 1-899241-14-0.

Barlows Buildings, Lower Walton, Nr Warrington

JOSEPHGRAY209 — 2009-10-14 13:52:21Z

The informant of my Gt grandfathers death, is given as M. H. Prior, his daughter, in Dec 1892. Her address is given as -
Barlows Buildings, Lower Walton, Nr Warrington. Could someone please tell me, on which street or road were these buildings situated. Her maiden name would have been Mary Watson, but I can"t find any trace of a Mary Prior in the 1901 census.
Regards, Joe.

Rock House, Meadowbank, Winsford.

jimnshe2000 — 2009-10-23 09:25:00Z

Hi everyone. I wondered if there is anyone who can help me with the location of the above address? My father in law was born at the above address and his parents on the 1911 census are residing there. I have looked at old maps (1910 and 1875) and there is no such house listed on them. Can anyone help? Thanks in anticipation.

Cheshire famiies

PamelaWagster — 2009-10-11 11:21:21Z

Hi, I have several families in Cheshire:

Austin - Shavington - Cum - Gresty.
Hough - Wybunbury.
Barlow - Barnton.

Anyone else out there researching these names?

Re: SPRAGG family in Cheshire

spingo — 2009-10-24 19:12:41Z

Hi David I have limited info on the family but can forward the the photo I have if you contact me by personal message by clicking on the blue spingo type at the beginning of my post to obtain my email address.

Spingo

Re: BRERETON in Cheshire

Athome29 — 2009-10-11 06:06:50Z

I have Mary Brereton baptised 19/07/1789 Wybunbury married St Chads Church Wybunbury 18/01/1820
Thomas Billington 08/04/1781 Hatherton:
Have rest of ten children: Her Grandfather; Sir William Brereton of Brereton Hall Cheshire:
Pretty mixed up lot and one has to be extremely careful to find the correct family path.
Breretons begin 1175: William the Conqueror period

Re: Barlows Buildings, Lower Walton, Nr Warrington

Guy_Hatton — 2009-10-14 13:52:37Z

Hopefully the OP has found the answer to this at some point in the last seven years, (!) but just in case - the 1901 cencus has listings for a Barlow's Yard which seems to be situated close to Taylor Street and Eastford Road.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&...

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

Puddington40 — 2009-10-19 19:05:17Z

Hi Ellee

I'm so glad you've managed to establish contact with your cousin Elaine in Oz and are ready to share information with her.

As regards the placing of one's family tree in the public domain this is of course a matter of personal choice and will be influenced by several factors, not least being the commonness of the surname(s) involved.

My eight great-grandparents are a JONES, two WILLIAMS's, an EVANS, a DAVIES, a HUGHES, a GRIFFITHS and a CAMPBELL.
When I mentioned these names on a couple of mailing lists several years ago I was so inundated with responses from all parts of the globe, and for so long afterwards, that I vowed never to do so again!

And I of course find with alarming regularity instances of people having 'latched on' to ancestors of mine who they've noticed in one of the many free on-line data-bases and who they've placed in their own family tree simply because the name, the location and/or the time-scale 'fit'.

However, I do accept that for names somewhat 'rarer' than mine then on-line trees can be a most valuable tool.

Best wishes for your own research, and please give Elaine my regards when you next speak to her.

.

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

Puddington40 — 2009-10-19 14:15:31Z

Ellee wrote :-

>Jos son of Nathaniel and Catherine Ball.... wish I could go back further.

For what it's worth, I have it in my extended family tree that the Nathaniel HUNTINGTON (born c1765) who married Catherine BALL in 1792 was the son of a Joseph (born c1733).

Joseph (born c1733) a son of the Nathaniel HUNTINGTON (born c1710) who married Jane BARTON on 30 April 1732 in Neston St Mary & St Helen.

Nathaniel (born c1710) a son of Samuel HUNTINGTON and Elizabeth DALBY who married 7 November 1689 in Bebington St Andrew.

Impossible to prove conclusively owing to the patchiness of parish records, of course, but Nathaniel (born c1710) did leave a will when he died in 1772, as did his brother Samuel (b1692 Bebington) in 1759?

Copies can be purchased on-line from the Cheshire Archives at a cost of £3 each plus postage :-

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/Wills/

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

Puddington40 — 2009-10-19 08:55:15Z

A rapid correction to my last post - Thomas (b1795 Little Meols) was Nathaniel & Catherine's SECOND son, the eldest being your ancestor Joseph HUNTINGTON (b1792 Little Meols) who married Esther WESTHEAD on 27 December 1815 in Liverpool St Peter?

Re: search for William HUNTINGTON of Cheshire

Puddington40 — 2009-10-19 08:22:02Z

I doubt that you and I will be cousins, since my connection to this family (hence it's inclusion in my extended tree) is only via a couple of distant sibling marriages.

I'm not a believer in on-line family trees, having discovered so much erroneous information concerning my own direct lines placed there by others and which has never been corrected even after being drawn to their attention.

Incidentally, AlisonWilliams wrote on 14 December 2005 :-

>The family certainly didn't move around much.....

In actual fact, Nathaniel & Catherine nee BALL's eldest son Thomas HUNTINGTON (b1795 Little Meols) crossed the River Mersey to Liverpool, where all eleven of his children were born.
This branch was ultimately responsible for Huntington's Bakery, popular in the Edge Lane area of Liverpool during the 1900's and mentioned several times in the thread triggered by this post :-

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-MERSEYSIDE...

The lady in Queensland Australia (Elaine) who contributed to this thread almost certainly IS a blood-relative of yours?

Re: source for Macclesfield birth records?

CarolColeman8353 — 2009-10-15 21:59:14Z

For anything pre the 1837 compulsory registration you would need to see the actual Parish records. Held at Chester record office and various other places.

If you are nowhere near Cheshire you can always get the film of the record sent to your local LDS Mormon reading rooms for around £5.

My mum went to Christchurch school in Macc......long demolished, as is the church itself.

Carol

Re: macclesfield silk weavers

CarolColeman8353 — 2009-10-10 15:34:03Z

Macclesfield is known as Silk Town- the football team are the Silk Men and a newish by pass which cuts the town in half is known as the Silk Road.

My grandparents both worked in the silk factories there in the early 1900's.

Macclesfield is also well known for it's silk embroidered pictures done by a company caleld Brocklehurst and Whiston(google them)

Carol ( whose mum was born in Macc in 1927)