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Re: Nelsons of Skelsmergh/Kendal

alex272727 — 2009-11-29 11:55:30Z

I have a john Nelson in my tree born 1836 in loweswater Cumberland uk, not sure who he married, but i have his parents and siblimgs should you want them

regards alex

Margaret Reid b. 1856/1853 in Whitehaven

LimitlessEternity — 2009-11-28 01:34:58Z

I'm looking for a Margaret Reid born 1856/1853 in Whitehaven, Cumberland, England (from 1881 census). She married Charles Taylor (b. 1812/1826) of Liverpool. Margaret & Charles had four children; Nellie (b. 1880), Frederick (b. aft 3 Apr 1881), Margaret (b. 1885) & Esther (b. 21 Sep 1888) all in West Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Margaret died between Esther's birth in 1888 & the 1891 Census. Charles died 24 Oct 1895.

I'm trying to find out who Margaret's parents are. Does anyone have her in their tree?

Re: Furness Families

alisonbrigden — 2009-11-26 22:46:39Z

Hello Rodney, I am a ggg granddaughter of Thomas Clifton Edmondson & Mary Woodend, as follows

Thomas & Mary ggg grandparents
John Edmondson & Elizabeth Hannah (son & daughter in law) gg grandparents
Elizabeth Edmondson & Thomas Austin Roberts (daughter & son in law) g grandparents
Joseph Roberts & Mabel Lucy Dolphin (son and daughter in law) grandparents
Gerald Roberts & Molly Edna Halsey (son and daughter in law) my mum and dad

Thomas Clifton Edmondson, died on the 5th Oct 1875 in Aldingham.

Regards

Alison

Re: Barrow in Furness Cumbria

jennyswat — 2009-11-22 00:29:18Z

Hi,

Currently looking for anyone on my grandma's side of the family. These names sound very familiar, since my grandma passed I don't have much to go on but lots of family pictures of her growing up.
Her Name was Vera Harvey born Sept 24, 1924 in Barrow in Furness, her brothers were Raymond, Bernard, Gordon, Norman, sisters were Doris and Mary. Vera married a Royden Walker and moved to Michigan. Can anyone help find some relatives or can someone point me in the right direction.

Thank You,
Jenny

Re: Hedleys in Cleator, Whitehaven, Ireland and Northumberland

petehedley — 2009-11-20 22:30:55Z

Thanks for pointing that out Bryan. Silly me, of course there are Newcastles everywhere!
Clears up that point so I'm no further on on county of origin then but nice to be informed

peter

Re: Hedleys in Cleator, Whitehaven, Ireland and Northumberland

BryanHoggarth — 2009-11-20 14:52:35Z

I suppose you have twigged that County Down can easily be misunderstood as County Durham and vice versa. It's happened to me in noisy discos.
Also there is a Sunderland in Cumberland as well as Lancashire and Scotland and there are Newcastles all over the place - so when an Irishman told the enumerator he was from Newcastle he may well have been put down as being from Newcastle in Norhumberland.
Bryan
(from County Durham)

Hedleys in Cleator, Whitehaven, Ireland and Northumberland

petehedley — 2009-11-20 02:44:55Z

Andrew Hedley b1824/5 County Down Ireland was the brother of my gg grandfather who disappeared off the radar after he got married c1850, turned up in the 1881 census a blast engine man in Furnace Court, Cleator Moor.

From census 1861, 1871, 1881 I find that there were a lot more than just Andrew. (And from some C of E parish records online which I now can't find again)
It is not, as I thought, a couple of Irishmen finding work in England... there were a LOAD of Hedleys there at that period and what's more they were more or less all in the one street and all born in Ireland.
So a load of unrelated Irishmen called Hedley going to England looking for work don't just happen to all end up in the same street in England!

Andrew and his wife Eliza Jane Booman had a child Isabella baptised in James St Scotch Presbyterian Church in Whitehaven. I then find that Hedleys have been baptised here since 17c !!!!!
Other children were John, born Co Down, Henry born Whitehaven, twins Isabella and Eleanor, 1854, Cleator (Eleanor married John Shylan), James born 1859 in Cleator

Another brother who disappeared (no trace after marriage to Anna Frew) was Joseph. He would have been born about 1830/31.
There is , in the 1881 census an innkeeper called Joseph Hedley at 55, Henry St in Workington. His wife is Annie born Ireland 3 years later than him and living with them is daughter Margaret Larkin and grandson Joseph E Larkin.

Tradition has it that "our" Hedleys are from Northumberland but I now wonder if it wasn't just happen-chance that all those 19c County Down Hedleys ended up in that particular area... perhaps from Northumberland but by way of Cumberland for a hundred years? Also I've seen reference in records recently of addresses like Newcastle, Cumberland and Sunderland, Cumberland so obviously they were easily and often confused.

In County Down I am back to about 7 to 10 men all born c1800 and it's really hard to get information earlier than this in Ireland.
The men's names are William, Joseph, Robert, Henry, James, Allen, Andrew. I say 7-10 because I have individual records (mostly as fathers at marriages)of a few Williams, Josephs, Roberts and a couple of James & there's no way of telling if they are the same ones.

Apparently my gg Grandfather "mentioned the Northumberland Fusiliers"

So if you are a Northumberland or Cumberland Hedley and know of family going to Ireland 18th cent or earlier (or coming from Ireland 19th cent) please let me know

thanks
peter

Oxley Ancestors

Scodge2 — 2009-10-31 03:58:24Z

i have oxleys in family tree . three brothers went to u.s.a. 1893 cotton weavers . father thomas, mother margaret oxley of padiham lancs england. is there a link?

MIDDLETON and KENDAL

LornaHen — 2009-10-31 03:56:37Z

The MIDDLETON and Kendal in your message caught my eye.
I'm trying to trace a David MIDDLETON, born Tebay nr Kendal, Westmoreland, now Cumbria.
This is for a friend who would like to find David and invite him to attend a 40th anniversary party in the UK in January 2006.
Known info:
Would now be 59-61ish, used to work for Leyland Motors Ltd (a subsidiary of British Leyland) 1963 to late 1960s, no brothers, 2 married sisters.
Known to have been in Columbia, Sth America late 1970s or early 1980s, and believed to have a son Davidista.

My friend would love to hear from anyone who can help track David down.

Regards
Lorna

Re: OXLEY, ASHBURNER, REDHEAD, LANCASTER, BARRETT, THOMAS, MIDDLETON

2009-10-31 03:55:38Z

Hi,
yes please. And yes, I know the party has been and gone, but the friend would still like to get in touch.

Regards,
Lorna

Oxley Ancestors

2009-10-31 03:53:25Z

My husbands family were from the Ulverston area. Most of his ancesters are buried in the church grave yard in Ulverston. His fathers name was George he had three brothers some of which still have family living in the area.
Hope this is some help. If you wish anymore information please let me know.

Re: Matthew family of Cumberland

peggysullivan114 — 2009-10-31 03:40:23Z

1901 census
Joseph Matthews 52
Catherine (wfe) 39
Edith M. 22 dau: b. South America
Arthur 21 son " "
Mabel 19 dau " "
Maud L 11 dau
Royston S. 6 son
Harold H.son 4
Isabella Kelly 27 dau:
Ida H. Kelly g/dau 2

all others born Whitehaven Cumberland
living Whitehaven
RG13/4893/f95/p19

1891 census
Joseph Mathews 42 fire wood merchant
Catherine 29
Isabella 17
Joseph W.15 b. Rosaria ?
Albert 14 b. Argentine Republic
Edith M 12 b. South America
Arthur 11 " "
Mabel 9 " "
Maud L.2
all others born Whitehaven
living Albert Terr: Priston Qtr: Whitehaven

Matthew family of Cumberland

barbarahughes16 — 2009-10-31 03:39:40Z

I'm searching for any information about Isabella Kelly nee Matthew married in 1898 to a Joseph Kelly.
Their children Daughter Ida H Kelly born 1899 in Portsmouth Hampshire and Son Joseph H Kelly born 1905?
They emigrated to Halifax Nova Scotia 24th Mar 1911 on the Victorian.
Isabella died in the Halifax explosion on 6th Dec 1917 and her Husband Joseph Kelly returned to Liverpool England in 1920.

Re: Quinn family Moresby

gdhannigan1 — 2009-10-31 03:38:43Z

Ann,

This is Gail McAvoy, we corresponded last year before your AOL Hometown tree for McAvoy was taken down.

I'd like to get in contact with you, please email me at gdhannigan@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Re: Simpsons of Cumberland, Liverpool and Great Crosby, Lancashire

djl79ewing — 2009-10-31 03:33:29Z

It looks as though your biggest problem will be because National BMD Records only go back to 1837. However, it appears that, initially at least, you are trying to find the birth place of Joseph and Mary. Can we have some more clues?
What are the "different places" given?
In which census records have you found Joseph?
What year was their first child born?

Re: Simpsons of Cumberland, Liverpool and Great Crosby, Lancashire

pchadwick130 — 2009-10-31 03:32:41Z

I also have been confused by the different places of birth for the Simpsons. I believe Margaret's maiden name was Sharp. I can help with the marriage of Frances who married Robert Chadwick on 30th September 1863 at St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire.

Re: Furness Families

2009-10-31 03:31:14Z

i am looking for the dawsons ,jackson and the cathey familys . my mums dads and his family came from the places you mention could you please help as this is what ive been waiting for as new to all this but got some info thanks debbie

Re: Furness Families

2009-10-31 03:30:35Z

I would be very interested in what you may have on the Coward family from Barrow-in-Furness. My grandmother came over from England in the early 1900's. My information is her parents:James Newton and Hannah Woodburn; James Newton's parents as David Newton and Elizabeth Coward and I have their children as Sarah Margaret b.5 Sept 1858; Harriet b.7 Oct 1860 and married Robert Kirkby; James b.23 Mar 1862; John b.21Feb 1864; Mary Jane b.2 April 1865; Louiza Ann b. 18 Aug 1867 and married a Blackwell; Thomas Hopwood b.28 Nov 1869; Eliza b.25 Jan 1862 and married a Graham; and Ada Caroline b. 19 April 1874. The first 2 children were born in Whicham, the rest in Millom; I just noticed Eliza's birth year is out of sinc - maybe I have an error there. I would greatly appreciate any information you could forward onto me. Thanks so much.
Diane Crilley Shearer
203 W. Rosebud
Belgrade, Montana 59714
U.S.A.

Re: Furness Families

2009-10-31 03:28:26Z

Dear Russ, I have Braithwaites from Kendal, my gt grandfather coming from there to Ulverston. He married my Gt grandmother (a Hodgson) from Spark Bridge, Colton and went to live in Ulverston. I can only give you that info at the moment as it is late and I have just found this site. I see there is no mention of Hodgson in your list. But you deserve all the best in your search for such a wonderful list. Best wishes.

Re: Furness Families

RussBraithwaite — 2009-10-31 03:27:49Z

I haven't had any recent contacts but I haven't visited the board recently either. Here is a summary of what I know about my Lamb line - going back 4 generations from my grandmother Eleanor Jane L.:

Children of John LAMB and Sarah HARRISON:

Thomas. b. 6th Sep. 1812 Whitehaven CUL; bp. 13th Sep. 1812 Whitehaven CUL; Shipwright; m. to ? (d. < 1881); fl. 1881 Barrow (wid.)
Elizabeth. bp. 13th Aug. 1816 Whitehaven CUL
John. bp. 1st Oct. 1820 Whitehaven CUL; m. < 1852 to Mary (b.c. 1823 Whitehaven CUL; fl. 1881); fl. 1881 Whitehaven CUL; 1 son by 1881
William. bp. 13th Apr. 1823 Whitehaven CUL; Pawnbroker; m. < 1846 to ? (d. < 1881); fl. 1881 Nottingham NTT (wid.); 3 children by 1881
HARRISON
Edward. bp. 23rd Dec. 1827 Whitehaven CUL
Margaret. bp. 31st May 1835 Whitehaven CUL; fl. 1881 Nottingham NTT (unm.)

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Children of Harrison LAMB and Ann WALKER:

Mary. b.c. 1845 Whitehaven CUL; Doss House Assistant; m. < 1891 to ? WILSON (fl. 1891?); fl. 1894 Barrow
JOHN
Sarah. b. 26th Dec. 1847 Whitehaven CUL; fl. 1851 Whitehaven CUL; d. < 1861?
Joseph English DOIG*. b. Whitehaven CUL (reg. 1Q 1860 Whitehaven); Blacksmith; adopted < 1871; changed surname to LAMB < 1881; fl. 1881 Barrow (unm.)
* Natural son of Henry Inglis & Jane DOIG.

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Children of John LAMB and Ellen KELLY:

Harrison. b. 1870 Barrow; fl. 1881 Barrow
THOMAS
John. b.c. 1875 Barrow; fl. 1881 Barrow
Robert. b.c. 1877 Barrow; fl. 1881 Barrow & 1898
Mary A. b.c. 1879 St. Helens; fl. 1881 Barrow & 1898 (unm.)

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Children of Thomas LAMB and Sarah CASSON:

ELEANOR JANE
Ethel. b.reg. 3Q 1901 Barrow; m. to Thomas Henry NICHOLSON; 2 children
Elizabeth (Lizzie). b.c. 1903 Barrow?; m. to James GARTH (Farmer); 2 children
Thomas. b.reg. 1Q 1906 Barrow; m. to Mary PIDDUCK; fl. 1948; 1 dau.
John. b.reg. 4Q 1908 Barrow; m. to Stella
Ellen (Nellie). b.reg. 2Q 1911? Barrow; m. to Les BROWN; d. 1941.
James. b.reg. 4Q 1912 Barrow; m. to Peggy; 2 children
Sarah (Sadie). b.reg. 4Q 1912 Barrow; m. to Foster STOCKILL; 2 sons

Re: Furness Families

2009-10-31 03:24:58Z

hi russ, I don't know if a person named Carolyn has contacted you but she was asking me if I had any info on Lambs in B in F and she has connections to the Jackson. Her name is on the message board. I too have a family line from B in F , the Lams I have some info on them and wondered if you could give me some more. If you would be kind enough to do that I would appreciate it thankyou Sandy

Re: bell family cumbria

DavidReay504 — 2009-10-31 03:20:09Z

Hi All,
Has anyone any connection with George Bell b 1815 Kirklinton, married Susannah Darling b 1819 of Workington. George was a blacksmith, one time at George Sowerby Lane, Carlisle, later, Soaperey, Workington. Children: Sarah 1841, Susannah 1844, Agnes 1849, George 1851, William 1852, Martin 1856 & Martha 1859. After George (Snr)s death, wife Susannah moved to Prudoe.

Regards
David

Re: bell family cumbria

2009-10-31 03:19:39Z

Came across your message after all this time!Hope you gt this one.My gt granmother was Emma Bell(langrigg 1885)Her parents were David Bell and mary jane stockdale,let me know if this is same family you have been researching,Regards Helen

Re: bell family cumbria

2009-10-31 03:17:32Z

Hope you are the James Gould that contacted me, I think everyone in the family must have been told they descended from the Black Douglas (hair colouring) opposed to the Red Douglas (hair colouring) I think that James the Black Douglas was just a more romantic ancestor technically we all descend from one ancestor a William anyway. I daresay all the Douglas's in Cumberland are cousins I know we had relatives in Longtown as we visited them in 1949 and 1957 but how they fit into the family I can only guess. I do know that our relatives around the Carlisle area had fair hair and blue eyes. How even genetics pass on from mother's too.
Heather

Re: bell family cumbria

2009-10-31 03:16:38Z

Hello there Helen, one of my direct ancesters was Johnathan Douglas born in 1758 and married to a Margaret Wright in 1781 I descend from their son James born in 1784 one of his brothers was a John Douglas born 1797 this brother married a Isabell Bell their children were Ann 1831, Sarah and George 1834, Isabell 1837, Jane 1841 and Elizabeth 1849.
All this family lived at Bolton not far from Carlisle in Cumberland for about 400 years I know we had relatives at Caldbeck and also at Abbytown and Wigtown where I was told the Douglas's origionated from a long time ago.
Heather

Re: bell family cumbria

joanmorris26 — 2009-10-31 03:15:53Z

Do you have a Mary Bell who married Walter Pettigrew in 1792 in your family? They had 3 children, Thomas, Elizabeth and Ann. I'd Love to hear from you if you have any info on this family.

Re: bell family cumbria

2009-10-31 03:15:32Z

Hello Helen
I'm wondering if you've come across a Bell family with a mother
named Mary (or Ann, depending on the Census! Maybe Mary
Ann?), born about 1820 in Southerfield (yet to find her last name).
She married an unknown Bell and had these children (that I know
of thus far)

Jane Bell, born Blencop?, Cumberland about 1852
Benjamin Bell, born Longrigg about 1854
Mary Bell, born Kelsick, about 1861

I've yet to find their birth registrations so I don't have any certs to
look for their father's name.

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: bell family cumbria

AlxMessina — 2009-10-31 03:15:04Z

hi i am searching the name elizabeth bell who i think married my ggggrandfather in 1812 in camerton my gggrandfather came from wigton and i would dearly love some info what ever you have his name was joseph pearson i do have lots of info but also some missing links Jane messina

bell family cumbria

@@petel36@aol.com — 2009-10-31 03:14:31Z

Peter Bell researching Bell family from Wigton area .Also Sebergam circa 1800 1830

Re: PONSONBYs in Cumbria

pianoguyfromsc — 2009-10-31 03:14:05Z

I am the grandson of Joseph Shackley, however I am descended from his second wife, not from Amy Alice Ponsonby, who I believe is buried in Pittsburgh, PA. Joseph and Amy had four children (my dad's half-siblings) who all lived in the Pittsburgh area. I have pictures of the family from the early 1900s if you want to contact me. I believe the emigrated to the US in 1906.

Electoral Rolls

freestone_1 — 2009-10-31 02:51:07Z

Hello, was wondering if any one could help me.
Do you ever look in the Electrol Rolls, believe they are kept at the library?? if you do l wonder if you could look up for me. l am looking into the Workington electrol roll,
for the years 1920 to 1930, l live in Canada.
Kind regards

Barton

sandie_harding — 2009-10-31 02:50:29Z

looking for any infomation on the Bartons especially Isaac and Mary Jane Messenger.

Re: PONSONBYs in Cumbria

pentodd1 — 2009-10-16 05:06:05Z

Hello! and thank you so much for reponding to my query! I would love to trade information with you on this family, and see pics!
Please contact me at pentodd at aol dot com.
Lynne in Illinois

Re: Furness Families

hanbsa23 — 2009-09-18 11:02:32Z

Hi Russ

I originally come from BiF and have Macmillan ancestors. I would be interested to see if we have any links.

My gggrandmother was Mary Ann Macmillan b 1843 Antrim. Married William Tyson 1863 at the Parish Church Barrow in Furness.
Her parents were William and Sarah Jane nee Quinn both born in Ireland. His occupation was Tailor on MAry JAnes wedding cer..I have the names of 5 other siblings and have found them in the census of 1861 living at High Bentham. I think they moved over fron Ireland in the 1850's.

Any connections?

Many thanks

shepherd

davidshepherd48 — 2009-09-11 22:45:53Z

any information on shepherd , harrington , workington

Re: Looking for Dempsey/ Byrne/ Mossom/ Wilson/ Davidson & Hollidays

davidshepherd48 — 2009-09-11 22:43:13Z

hi my grans maiden name was martha davidson, son walter hucknall, im jayne hucknall

Re: Keenan family

lorin8881 — 2009-09-06 14:25:53Z

Dear Joanne,
My grandmother's family (Keenan) are related to your family. Felix Keenan & Sarah McQuoid had a son Felix 1836, uncle to your John James Keenan. Felix married Hannah Hallinan and their son,gr-grandfather James Keenan 1872 was the one that came to Australia. I am just starting to do our family trees. Not sure who was in England
regards Tina

Re: William Starkie 1833

freestone_1 — 2009-09-04 12:56:19Z

Hello Buryfarm111
William Starkie was my ggrandfather, have quite a lot of info on the Starkies if you are interested, please email me freestone@rogers.com - would love to compare notes

Hogg Family Cleator

xenia10001 — 2009-08-28 08:01:29Z

Hi - I am researching the Hoggs of Cleator, originally from Ireland.

James Hogg born circa 1831 in Ireland (father Hugh Hogg) married Ann Kirkpatrick (father James Kirkpatrick) on 21 June 1857.

They had the following children,all born in Cleator according to the census. Sarah (1858), Eleanor (1860, married Henry Stewart), James (1862), Mary Jane (1866, married Andrew Kerr), Ann (1868), John (1870) and Jane (1879).

I have been unable to find this family in the 1861 census but have the 1871 and 1881. I think James may have had a brother Hugh Hogg. If anyone has any connection to or information regarding this family it would be great to hear from you.
Thanks
Tracy Barlow

Re: Flemings in Whicklow Ireland , & Frizington ,Cleator moor Cumberland

donnamarie1987 — 2009-08-25 15:25:48Z

hi sue,

sorry for the late reply, it would be great if you could send me the pictures! finding it hard to get upto cleator so anything u have would be great!
thanks donna.

E-mail donna-marie1987@hotmail.co.uk

Re: William Starkie 1833

freestone_1 — 2009-08-24 23:42:26Z

Hello buryfarm 111
thank you for your reply, William was my ggrandfather, his son Thomas Starkie b 1886 Cockermouth was my grandather, his daughter Elizabeth Ann Starkie b Workington was my mother.
There was quite an age difference between William and Elizabeth Ann, and also he cannot be found on the 1861 and 1871 census

Re: William Casson of Tottlebank, Subberthwaite (very near Colton), born c.1766, died 1834

dubbsfarm1 — 2009-08-23 20:14:53Z

hi
are you still looking for info on William Casson ?

Re: John Lightfoot from Frizington

blue2509 — 2009-08-23 13:07:55Z

Hi Cath

How can I help you.

The Lightfoots are not in my family tree I read peoples messages and then because I have full access to ancestry, IGI etc I try and help.

Blue2509

Re: John Lightfoot from Frizington

cathwilliams182 — 2009-08-23 09:52:01Z

Whilst browsing on this site I came across a dialog between LIZ VAN DER ZENDEN and Anne ( BLUE 2509 ) they were talking about my g g g g grandfather Rowland Lightfoot and Rachel Parkin married in 1817 .Lorton cumberland
this posting was a while ago. 2005
Are either of these people still doing family history ? Would they contact me via this site or my person email =
catherine21@fsmail.net.

cath williams

Re: cork carr littleton

NormaLockhart1 — 2009-08-22 15:35:49Z

I just wondered if you have any more information on Ada Maria Cork married to James Carr in 1895. The bit about her family connections with tea plantations in Singapore sounds interesting. I think Ada Maria comes into the family tree I am working on although not on a direct line but my husband is possibly directly linked through her brother George Percy Cork. Any information would be helpful.
Many thanks

Re: Crilley Ancestors-Cleator Moor

GeoffEveritt — 2009-08-21 22:31:26Z

You're a long way from home Sue - mind you don't get lost!

Re: Flemings in Whicklow Ireland , & Frizington ,Cleator moor Cumberland

susancrilly — 2009-08-21 19:08:48Z

I have a few photos of gravestones from Cleator St Mary's you may be interested in - Flemings and Byrnes
Sue

Re: Crilley Ancestors-Cleator Moor

susancrilly — 2009-08-21 18:51:44Z

I am Susan Crilly from Cleator Moor
Descended from Thomas Crilly & Mary Cronin who came from Co Down in the 1860's.
Would love to exchange notes
Sue

Looking for Dempsey/ Byrne/ Mossom/ Wilson/ Davidson & Hollidays

alyssa280604 — 2009-08-21 13:12:34Z

Anyinfo on the above surnames in the cumberland area greatly appreciated.

Michelle

Re: Furness Families

felicitybuckingham — 2009-08-18 04:35:11Z

Hi,

I'd love any info on your Jacksons:

Jackson: 1839-1881+; Whitehaven (CUL); Ulverston, Barrow

Mine seem to be from Ulverston, and I'm hitting a lot of brick walls.

Cheers,

Felicity