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Re: Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson family, Carlisle

crusoe123  (View posts) Posted: 30 Sep 2009 8:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm finding it harder to find them on the 1871 census, I have now found Frances and Thomas, are you sure they survived.

I think that Eleanor married John Harrison, as follows, and Young is living with them, although he is described as a boarder.

Marriages Mar 1864
Harrison John Carlisle 10b 571
Todd Ellinor Carlisle 10b 571

1871 census transcription details for: Newby, Cummersdale
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 5225 Folio: 21 Page: 7

Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: Dalston
Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Cummersdale City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Newby, Cummersdale County: Cumberland

Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation, Where Born

HARRISON, John Head M 32 1839 Cumberland Iron stone miner
HARRISON, Ellen Wife F 30 1841 Cumberland
HARRISON, Mary E Daughter F 6 1865 Cumberland
HARRISON, Barbara Daughter F 2 1869 Cumberland
HARRISON, Elizabeth Daughter F 0 1871 Cumberland
TODD, James Boarder M 10 1861 Cumberland


Re: Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson family, Carlisle

rtneuville  (View posts) Posted: 5 Oct 2009 3:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Todd, Bowman
Latest finds:
Jane Todd c. 29 Jan 1837, Stanwix, father William Todd, mother Isabella (?)

"Boxman" in your later post re 1861 census was presumably Bowman. Jane a house servant to Bowmans.

Elizabeth Todd c.27 Sept 1842, Houghton, father William Todd, mother Isabella (?).

Ann Todd b. 1838 Dalston, Thomas (1841)Todd's sister married a William Bowman, b 1826, Heskett, abt June 1863.

Robert Todd, Thomas (1841)Todd's brother, married a Hannah Hulme, b. Ormskirk, in Carlisle abt June 1863.

Were you able to locate 1871 census records? :)

Regards!

Re: Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson family, Carlisle

rtneuville  (View posts) Posted: 5 Oct 2009 3:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Big ooops!! "Were you able to locate 1871 census records? :)"

Apologies, I missed your 30 Sept post and should have looked harder.:(:(

Re: Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson family, Carlisle

rtneuville  (View posts) Posted: 5 Oct 2009 8:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Todd, Hulme
1871 Census finds Thomas (1808) Todd and Frances living with their son Robert and his wife Hannah (Hulme) in Ormskirk, North Meols. In 1881 Thomas was back in St. Cuthbert, Carlisle, Frances presumably deceased.

Frances' maiden name is still a mystery.

Re: Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson family, Carlisle

crusoe123  (View posts) Posted: 5 Oct 2009 8:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Could this be Frances' death:-

Deaths Jun 1876
Todd Frances aged 60 Penrith 10b 256

If so, were maiden names added to death certificates in 1876?

Re: Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson family, Carlisle

rtneuville  (View posts) Posted: 6 Oct 2009 11:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Todd, Ivison
Elizabeth Todd and William Ivison married 20 November 1866, St. Mary Carlisle

Re: Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson family, Carlisle

rtneuville  (View posts) Posted: 9 Oct 2009 1:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Todd, Brown
Only the husband would be shown if married, no maiden name on death certificate.

The only promising Frances found so far is Frances Brown, baptized 25 Sept 1819 at Castle Sowerby, however the only Frances Brown marriage found is to John Wane, 28 Sept 1839, Bassenthwaite. The search for Thomas Todd's Frances continues.:)
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