I'm searching specific BMD's and general information on ancestors and decendents for this family:

Thomas Todd, b. abt 1842, Whitehaven, occupation Coachman/Cab Driver, d. aft 1906? Parents unknown.
Lucy Simpson, b. abt 1844, Carlisle, married Thomas Sept 1861 Carlisle, Vol 10b page 569? Parents unknown.
Son William Todd, b. abt 1862, Carlisle, married Catherine (unknown), abt Dec 1881, Carlisle, Vol 10b page 776?

Son Edward Todd, b. abt Sept 1867, Carlisle, Vol 10b page 411?, married Sarah Morrow, abt Sept 1887 Durham.
Sarah Morrow, b. abt 1865 Durham,d. abt Dec 1903, Whitehaven, Carlisle Vol 10b page 445?
Their children:
Lucy Ann, b. Dec 1887, Durham
Joseph, b. 1890, Carlisle
Lizzie, b.1892, Whitehaven
Thomas, b. 1896, Whitehaven
Family was resident in Whitehaven in 1901.

Edward remarried, to Mary Fraser Hutton of Edinburgh, in Glasgow in 1906. What became of his children after Sarah's death?

Thank you for any information or comments!

THOMAS TODD, born 1842 is on the 1851 census, with his widowed mother Ann Todd, and other siblings.

Then, looking at athe 1841 census, before Thomas was born, but looking for Ann wit the other older sibligs, you can see them with William Todd, the husband of Ann. William must have died between 181 and 1851, and judging by the ages of the children, his death could be any one of the following, (more likely one of either the second or third listed below)

Deaths Dec 1843
TODD William Whitehaven 25 108

Deaths Dec 1849
TODD William Whitehaven 25 114

Deaths Sep 1850
TODD William Whitehaven 25 107

THE 1841 census, is:-
Census for 1841 living at George Street, Whitehaven.

WILLIAM TODD aged 50 an Ironmonger
ANN TODD aged 35 wife of above
Ann Eleanor Todd aged 14 child of above
Elizabeth Todd aged 10
Robert Lumley Todd aged 7
Thomas Todd aged 1 month
Eleanor Todd sister of William Todd aged 40
Elizabeth Lumley sister of Ann Todd aged 30
Ann Lumley niece of Ann Todd aged 15

The 1851 census is as follows:-
Name: THOMAS TODD Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Whitehaven
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address: High Street, Whitehaven,
Occupation: scholar
Condition as to marriage: single
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Harrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 86

OTHER Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Todd 48 WIDOW head of house, annuitant.
Ann E Todd 24 daughter unmarried
John Todd 23 son unmarried an Ironmonger
Elizabeth Todd 20 daughter unmarried
Richt L Todd 17 son unmarried a draper’s apprentice
Willim Todd 15 son unmarried scholar
Thomas Todd 9 son unmarried scholar
Joseph Todd 6 son unmarried scholar
John Lamley 51 brother, widower retired draper
Elenor Todd 55 sister in law unmarried

SECOND MAIL, hopefully you have sen the first one.

This is the married of William and Catherine

Marriages Dec 1881
LAVERY Catherine Carlisle 10b 776
Todd William Carlisle 10b 776

Thanks for that info crusoe123. The Whitehaven William Todd family is of interest and may be related to my Thomas' family.

I've just received the marriage certificate for Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson, dated 2 July 1861; at the Carlisle Registrar Office:
Thomas Todd, 20, Bachelor, Farm Servant, of "Stockdalexxxx"(?) Dalston, Father - Thomas Todd, General Labourer
Lucy Simpson, 18, Spinster, Domestic Servant, of Durdar St. Cuthbert, Father - Edward Simpson, General Labourer
In the presence of Robert Todd and Margaret Simpson.

Margaret above is probably Lucy's sister. Robert's relationship is unknown.

From another researcher I've received the following list of Todds in Dalston in the 1861 Census Index, although the relationships are not available (free), although it's likely that the senior Thomas and Frances are my Thomas'parents:

THOMAS TODD 53 Carlisle, Dalston
FRANCES TODD 41 Carlisle, Dalston
MARY TODD 9 Carlisle, Dalston
THOMAS TODD 20 Carlisle, Dalston
MARY TODD 66 Carlisle, Dalston
ELEANOR TODD 20 Carlisle, Dalston
JAMES TODD 0 Carlisle, Dalston
JANE TODD 24 Carlisle, Dalston
ELIZABETH TODD 19 Carlisle, Dalston

So now to decode this family and also to see where they were in 1841 and 1851. :)

Thanks for that too. William was indeed Edward Todd's brother and married Catherine Lavery

From the information you gave about the marriage certificate of Thomas to Lucy, this appears to be him on the 1861 census, shortly before he married.

Name: THOMAS TODD
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalston, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Cumdivock
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address: Greensyke
Occupation: Ploughman
Condition as to marriage: single
Registration district: Carlisle
Sub registration district: Dalston
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Young 47 A farmer employing men
Mary Young 49 farmer’s wife
Sarah Young 16 daughter
Elizabeth Young 15 daughter
Robert Young 13 son
Jane Young 10 daughter
John W Young 8 son
THOMAS TODD 20 ploughman
Thomas Friglis 15 carter


I will try to match him up with earlier census returns, and If I am successful, will put it on the message board.

1851 census. BELOW (1861 sent previously)

Ann Todd abt 1838 Dalston, Cumberland, England Daughter High Crosby, Cumberland
Frances Todd abt 1819 Dalston, Cumberland, England Wife High Crosby, Cumberland
Robert Todd abt 1840 Dalston, Cumberland, England Son High Crosby, Cumberland
Thomas Todd FARM LABOURER abt 1808 Scotland Head High Crosby, Cumberland
Thomas Todd abt 1841 Dalston, Cumberland, England Son High Crosby,

FAMILY LIVING AT HIGH Crosby, Cumberland, but born in Dalston.


AND 1841 CENSUS BELOW Thomas is aged 3 months.

TODD, Thomas M 30 1811 born Scotland
TODD, Frances F 25 1816 born Cumberland
TODD, Ann F 3 1838 born Cumberland
TODD, Robert M 1 1840 born Cumberland
TODD, Thomas M 0 (3 months) 1841 born Cumberland

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
164 Book/Folio:
20/7 Page:
8

Registration District:
Carlisle Sub District:
Dalston EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Dalston Municipal Borough:
Address:
Chalk Foot, Dalston, Cumdivock County:
Cumberland



Now I will try to find Lucy.

1841 census, The Simpsons before Lucy was born

SIMPSON, Edward a blacksmith M 25 1816 Blackwell Cumberland
SIMPSON, Edward son M 1 1840 Blackwell Cumberland
SIMPSON, Ann wife F 25 1816 Blackwell Cumberland
SIMPSON, John son M 5 1836 Blackwell Cumberland
SIMPSON, George son M 3 1838 Blackwell Cumberland
SIMPSON, Margaret daughter F 2 1839 Blackwell Cumberland
BLALOCK, Jane female servant F 30 1811 Blackwell Cumberland


AND 1851 census, with Lucy

Ann Simpson abt 1816 Stanwix, Cumberland, England Wife Blackwell High, Cumberland
Edward Simpson abt 1816 Blackwell, Cumberland, England Head a Blacksmith and agricultural labourer Blackwell High, Cumberland
Edward Simpson abt 1841 Blackwell, Cumberland, England Son Blackwell High, Cumberland
George Simpson abt 1838 Blackwell, Cumberland, England Son Blackwell High, Cumberland
Jane Ann Simpson abt 1850 Durdar, Cumberland, England Daughter Blackwell High, Cumberland
Joseph Simpson abt 1848 Durdar, Cumberland, England Son Blackwell High, Cumberland
Lucy Simpson abt 1843 Blackwell, Cumberland, England Daughter Blackwell High, Cumberland
Margaret Simpson abt 1840 Blackwell, Cumberland, England Daughter Blackwell High, Cumberland

Joseph Little abt 1846 Longtown, Cumberland, England Nephew Blackwell High, Cumberland

Do you need any othr census returns?

Crusoe123,Thank you for all that information - super! I think I've enough to keep me busy, for now. :)

Crusoe123, I texted too soon!
Is it possible to find the senior Thomas (abt 1808) and Frances Todd's household inhabitants in the 1861 census? If young Thomas was censused as a plowman on the Young's farm, was he also censused with his parents household, as my original list of Dalston Todds suggests?