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Derbyshire Record Office

Royston76 — 2009-11-06 13:40:40Z

I wonder if anyone is visiting the DERBYSHIRE RECORD OFFICE. They hold a copy of a (WILL) made by Pte David John FEAR whilst at Brockton Camp near Stafford in 1917. I would like a copy or transcription of the will and would appreciate any help given.

Regards
Roy

Cooper family of Derby.

davlittle — 2009-11-05 10:36:31Z

My Grandmother was Emily Alice COOPER born 8 November 1899 at 10 Fowler street, Derby, to Alice COOPER (nee BREWIN) and George Frederick COOPER.

Alice and George also had the following children:
Frederick Cooper,
Ellen Jane Cooper,
Jesse Cooper,
Frank Cooper,
Benjamin Cooper,
Frances Brown Cooper,
Florence May Cooper,
Jonathan Cooper,
Clarice Caroline.

Any links out there?? I live 12,000 miles away in New Zealand, so the info is difficult to find. Please put your ears on, and lets hear from you.

I can be contacted on email at: vabukori@yahoo.com

Thanks-

David Little.

Nelson,
New Zealand.

Re: Derbyshire ancestors

cavedes — 2009-11-04 07:36:26Z

No, no brother named Frank. The children were Elizabeth (1826), Jane (1826), John (1827), Lucy (1830), Eli (1837) and Hiram (1838) all born in Sutton Bonnington, Nottingham.

Re: Derbyshire ancestors

cavedes — 2009-11-04 07:33:09Z

Sorry, no. Doesn't seem to be a connection.

robert wilson1811 and susan gillies smith 1821

philippa1950 — 2009-11-01 13:04:19Z

Hi,Robert was minister of Charlesworth Chapel late 1840s and 1850s. They had 5 children the last 2 being born in Hayfield, Robert William 1849 and Susanna Gillies 1852. I cannot find family after 1851 census in Charlesworth. They are from Scotland and also lived in Cockermouth Cumberland. Thanks Philippa

Re: William WHEELDON m. Elizabeth WHITE in South Wingfield, Derby

cherielawrence36 — 2009-11-01 08:26:04Z

hi kate what area do you live..yes i have been trying to do my husbands and my own as well..i seem to jump around a bit..wheeldon is from my husbands side..his mother was a Wheeldon. cherie

Re: William WHEELDON m. Elizabeth WHITE in South Wingfield, Derby

kjacko20022000 — 2009-11-01 07:20:00Z

Hi Cherie, lovely to hear from you. This all sounds pretty familiar! Good on you for the research. Its great how I am bumping into heaps of descendents of the brother John and William Wheeldon. Any questions you have or any questions you have of me I will do my best to help. I didn't really start researching family history until I got to the age of 35 and then my curiousity started to kick in. The more I got into it the more I learnt and the more research I had to do. It sort of 'snowballs' doesn't it!

Cheers,

Kate J.

Re: Susannah PARKIN 1868 Ripley, Derbyshire

gloriagarrant16 — 2009-10-30 23:42:55Z

Hi Patricia,

I noticed on Ancestry that you have William J. Day born 1856
in Egerton, Kent, England. William J. Day was my great
grandfather. His father was William Day born 1814-1815 and
his mother was Caroline born about 1819. William J. Day
married Amelia Heathfield. Is this the same family as
yours? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gloria

Re: George Winson b1898

lorrainewinson50 — 2009-10-22 17:26:13Z

Yes we must be. Lewis and my great grandma were brother and sister. They must have been close as She named her 2nd son after him.
Lorraine

Re: CROFTS Thomas b. 1830 in Kilburn, Derbyshire

DianneHerrera1 — 2009-10-22 16:13:34Z

This was ages ago, but Ellen Crofts is my great grandmother. Did you have any more information. Thanks for coming up with this information.

Re: George Winson b1898

AHigton — 2009-10-20 18:36:45Z

My great-great grandad Lewis was Joseph and Ann's son so we must be related!

Re: George Winson b1898

AHigton — 2009-10-20 18:24:21Z

Yes she was their granddaughter. Their son Lewis was her father and he was married to Ann Bexon.

Re: George Winson b1898

lorrainewinson50 — 2009-10-19 20:16:40Z

You're welcome. Happy hunting.
regards
Lorraine

Re: George Winson b1898

lorrainewinson50 — 2009-10-19 20:13:26Z

Was Mary Anne a relative of Joseph Wheeldon and Ann Jill Thompson? My great grandmother Marian was their daughter.

Re: George Winson b1898

rmorton58 — 2009-10-19 18:19:43Z

Thank you. May have been different George Winson. My grandfather matches the information from Tania.

"The National Archive (England)
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
George's medal card - you can order online (doesn't always hold a lot of information)

Description Name Winson, George Horace
Official Number: J38708
Place of Birth: Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Date 03 July 1898
Catalogue reference ADM 188/724
Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Piece 38501-39000"

My grandfather was in the Royal Navy and the birth date is correct.

I realize it will get very hard going back any more past the 1800s.
Lorraine thank you for your information.

Richard Morton

Re: George Winson b1898

lorrainewinson50 — 2009-10-19 17:34:01Z

Was Mary Anne a relative of Joseph Wheeldon and Ann Jill Thompson? My great grandmother Marian was their daughter.

Re: George Winson b1898

AHigton — 2009-10-19 16:45:49Z

Henry Winson (born 19.9.1841) remarried to Mary Ann Wheeldon in 1892. She was the sister of my great grandfather. They had a child, George Thomas in 1897 and were living in Tibshelf on the 1901 census. On the 1911 census they were living in Hardwick Street, Tibshelf with George and 2 boarders. I think Henry died in 1914 and Mary in 1915.

Re: George Winson b1898

lorrainewinson50 — 2009-10-18 22:25:43Z

Hi again
The earliest I've got back is 1808. The public records are kept in Matlock near where my Father lives so I hope to look up more sometime.
Robert Winson born Ashleyhay 1808 m Eliza Millington born Kirk Ireton 1811. They married in Kirk Ireton church in 1831 If you google it you find some photos of church and information. Went there last summer with my daughters and some friends and after looking round church and graveyard had a pint in the Barley Mow pub where no doubt Robert would have drank occasionally .You'll find some more info and photos of the pub too.

Here is 1841 census. Robert is a farmer 0f 22 acres in Hulland Derbyshire.
Robert Winson 30
Eliza Winson 30
John Winson 9 b Kirk Ireton
Lydia Winson 7 b all subsequent children born in Hulland
Anne Winson 6
Abraham Winson 4
Hannah Winson 2
There was another daughter Eliza who died aged 2.
1851 Census
Robert Winson 43
Eliza Winson 42
John Winson 19
Abraham Winson 14
Hannah Winson 11
Henry Winson 9 your great great grandfather
George Winson 7
Robert Winson 4 my great grandfather
1861 census
Robert Winson 63
Eliza Winson 62
Mary Alice Winson 18
Frederick William Millington Winson 2 b Lymm Cheshire Henry's eldest son.

1881 census
Henry Winson 39
Mary Winson 42
Fredrick Winson 12
Henry Winson 11
Robert Winson 4
Henry is listed as a coal miner

1891 census Henry is now living with his married sister in Heath still mining Samuel Smith is a farmer.
Samuel Smith 40
Mary Alice Smith 38
Esther Anna Smith 14 your great grandmother
William Smith 13
Fredrick Smith 10
Ethel Mary Smith 8
Ada Smith 6
John Edward Smith 4
Samuel Smith 3
John Milner 23
Joseph Ward 16
Henry Winson 48 great great grandfather
Henry Winson 21 great grandfather
James Gladwin 21
Sarah Smith 19

1901 census
Henry Winson 31 farmer in Ault Hucknall
Esther Winson 24
Wilfred Winson 4
George Winson 2 perhaps your grandfather
John Smith 42

How they managed to get all children to Canada and back escapes me though, that seems strange.

Hope this is useful.
Lorraine Winson

James COLEMOSS or COLE MOSS

2009-10-15 13:53:23Z

I am looking for any ancestors of James Colemoss born circa 5th April 1806 at Heanor, Derby. He was a soldier in the 37th Regiment of Foot and emigrated to New Zealand in 1847 with his wife Mary and 4 young children.
There does not seem to be ANYTHING about the name Coalmoss. Any help would be appreciated.
Karen

Re: Street name help in Derby

denisehathaway1 — 2009-10-12 14:53:35Z

Hi did you find the street you were looking for? I believe
that it could be Molyneux street Derby, Which is in the Peartree area of Derby. The Street still exists.

Denise Hathaway

Henry BENNETT

keithtinkler — 2009-10-02 15:14:29Z

I am floating this in hopes .. dont we all?
Elizabeth FARRAR married Henry BENNETT 1842 in Everton, Liverpool (my gggG Parents), two of their daughters married in Bakewell District, Derbyshire
Frances Elizabeth (b1849) to William MARSDEN or A N Other in 1869 (FreeBMD page not complete yet), and
Annie Mosley (b1846) to either Kenneth MILLICAN or John MELLOR in 1876- at which point I lose track of them
I descend from their sister Caroline Ada

Keith

Re: JACKSON Surname in Belper, Duffield, Derbyshire, England

malnval01 — 2009-09-28 20:21:07Z

Hi Roy,
I am almost 100% certain we share the same ggg grandfather,

My ggrandfather is a Mathew Jackson whose Father was John Jackson born 1841 in Oldham. There are 2 John Jackson of 1841 so I am in the process of obtaining Marriage cert to check the Fathers name.
Please contact me on my hotmail address

Re: HODSON - Belper

geoffreyclark3 — 2009-09-29 07:08:38Z

Hi Vera,
sadly none of the other names you have mentioned are familiar to me.
Hope you have better luck elsewhere.
Happy hunting
Best wishes
Sue

Re: samuel ROBINSON in Longford, Derby

StephanieMoyer86 — 2009-10-05 16:44:30Z

I am related to William Robinson and Catherine Palmer through their son William. I have a bit of info on that line as regards my family. Would love to make contact with any one else related to that line or any one related to the Robinsons of Longford Derbyshire. I have dna results from my father that can be compared.

Stephanie Moyer (nee Robinson)
6moyers@telus.net

Re: James COLEMOSS / COLE MOSS born circa 5th April 1806 at Heanor, Derby

thamesboy — 2009-10-14 20:51:50Z

I show Jane born on the date you indicate, in North Shields, Northumberland, you probably have the more exact location. Also have information on the Colemoss/Moorfoot branch, including Australian and New Zealand descendants.

Re: JAMES COLEMOSS / COLE MOSS

thamesboy — 2009-10-14 20:49:00Z

Hi,

I am a second great grandnephew of Jane Maria Colemoss. I do have James Bwn showing in my family tree, born 18 November 1880, in Whangamata, but nothing beyond that. Have information on the Colemoss/Moorfoot family dating back to her father James Colemoss, born 5 April 1806, in Heneor, Derby, England, and her mother Mary Moorfoot, born 31 March 1811, in Beverley, Yorkshire, England. Also have information on their seven (7) children, plus descendants in New Zealand and Australia.

Would be glad to provide additionainformation on request, including the inquest of James Cole(moss), and his life in New Zealand.

I live in the USA, (since 1959), but have made several trips back to NZ, to see family and do research. Would be glad to provide aditional information, or you could contact my first cousin, Brian Holden, who lives in Auckland, poppa@xtra.co.nz We have both been working on the tree for many years, and routinely exchange GEDCOM files, so we have the same information.

Mary Colemoss (Jane Maria's sister, m. William Kerin Foster.
Their daughter Frances (Fanny) Foster, married William John Reddy.
Their daughter, Mary Catherine Reddy, married Francis Henry McCormick, and this couple were my grandparents.

The Thames/Coromandel area is crawling with descendants, including, Foster, Louden, Geard, McCormick, Reddy, Holden and other surnames. As you drive north from Thames, various branches of the family lived in the small towns, including Matatoki, Puriri, Tararu, Whakatete Bay, Ngarimu Bay, Thornton's Bay, Tapu, Kereta, Coromandel, etc. Obviously, a lot of these branches can be very distant relatives.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards,

Alan McGuiness

Re: HODSON - Belper

GeoffreyClark55 — 2009-10-06 09:39:29Z

Hi Sandra,
have seen your query. Do the families mentioned have any connections to the Hodson-Walkers from Stretton/Clay Mills area near Burton on Trent?
Best wishes
Sue

Re: John Wragg of Matlock Derbyshire

peggysullivan114 — 2009-10-11 08:46:43Z

1871 census
Luke Wragg 30 Lab: b. Matlock
Hannah Wragg 31 "
Rebecca 8 b. Tansley
Edward 6 b. Ripley
John 4 b. Tupton Moor
Luke 1 b. Tansley

living Cliff. Matlock
RG 10/3631/f43/p34

John is still living with parents on 1881 and 1891 census

He marries Zillah Kirk Jun 1891 Belper 7b 923

She was staying with the Wragg family in 1891 census and was listed as a relative.

Re: JAMES COLEMOSS / COLE MOSS

turbine176 — 2009-10-14 21:28:13Z

Thanks for your info. I will contact Brian Holden, for info, and contact you again. Gina.

Re: JAMES COLEMOSS / COLE MOSS

turbine176 — 2009-10-14 20:03:59Z

Hi, I am connected to Jane Maria Colemoss, she married Thomas Brown in 1860 here in NZ. Their son, James Albert married my great aunt Sarah Elizabeth Mitchell, sister to my grandmother, Agnes Mitchell.I have read Karens post and believe Jane may be the daughter of her James and Mary Colemoss.My email is turbine@orcon.net.nz Are we connected. Gina

Re: James COLEMOSS / COLE MOSS born circa 5th April 1806 at Heanor, Derby

turbine176 — 2009-10-14 19:55:56Z

Hi, I am connected to Jane Maria Colemoss,she married Thomas Brown in NZ in 1860. They were the parents of James Albert Brown, who married my great Aunt Sarah Elizabeth Mitchell. Could Jane be the daughter of your James and Mary. Jane was born 1844 in Tynemouth, Northimberland.Gina

John James PHILLIPS and Katharine nee BENNETT

OsbornSally — 2009-10-04 19:18:11Z

Looking for any information about the above. In 1931 they lived at Uplow, Bradwell, Derbyshire and had a child called Hilary. Can't find marriage or births of any other children. Believe he worked as transport manager for cement works in Bradwell, but don't know any further information. Thanks for any assistance.

Re: George Winson b1898

rmorton58 — 2009-10-18 15:06:25Z

Lorraine

Yes. I would appreciate any more information that you might have.

Richard Morton

Re: George Winson b1898

rmorton58 — 2009-10-02 06:42:01Z

Tania

After talking with my sister this would be my family. Thank you very very much for all your help and information.

Richard

Re: George Winson b1898

rmorton58 — 2009-10-02 06:40:06Z

Hope this helps.

My grandfather

George Winson b. 3 July 1898 d. 26 Oct 1984
wife's maiden name
Madeline Kratochwil b. 1903? d. 23 April 1961

George's father

Henry Winson.
wife first name
Mary (I do not know her maiden name)

George's brother

Leslie Winson b. ? d. abt1990.
Wife first name
Joyce (I do not know her maiden name)

My mother just gave me a Family Tree, but with only names. So its a start.

Thank you for the leads.

Richard Morton

Re: DERBY, Shaftesbury Crescent

JOHNCOPLEY80 — 2009-10-06 14:38:59Z

I always thought Derby was part of the LMS (London Midland Scottish) railway, so I went checking via Google.

At the relevant time it was part of the Midland Railway, formed by the amalgamation of 3 other companies in 1844.

It became part of LMS in 1923.

John

Re: George Winson b1898

lorrainewinson50 — 2009-10-18 12:25:52Z

Hi Richard
If this is your grandfather, Then his parents were my Grandfather's cousins (Henry and Esther were also first cousins)Henry's father Henry 1 and his mother Mary A Smith nee Winson) were brother and sister. Should you like any more info on Henry 1 and Mary's parents would be happy to provide it.
Regards
Lorraine Winson

Re: JOULE in Chapel-en-le-Frith

SandyQuinn38 — 2009-10-17 21:59:49Z

Hi there,

I have vast files of information of the JOULE name. Can you be more specific on where your interest lie?

Regards Sandy Quinn nee JOULE

Re: HODSON - Belper

vera544 — 2009-09-29 07:38:36Z

thanks sue,

Re: John Marsden Derbyshire 1816

jaheller — 2009-10-02 15:11:00Z

Not sure of anything but what is in the obituary. No place or date on it.

catch me at my e-mail at jaheller@comcast.net and i will send the obituary to you.

Re: John Marsden Derbyshire 1816

jaheller — 2009-10-02 15:09:32Z

Obituary did not list the brothers names. Listed that he was born in Derbyshire in 1816. There he engaged in the manufacture of dry goods and began preaching in September 1835. He came to America in 1846. He lived in Philadelphia and preached at the Eastern Penitentiary for 25 years. Three daughters, three grandsons, one granddaughter and two great-grandchildren.

Im not even sure how he is related to my in-laws other than my mother-in-law's middle name was Marsden. Found the obituary among her memorabilia.

Haven't done much research since I don't have access to the English records.

John Marsden Derbyshire 1816

jaheller — 2009-10-02 15:08:57Z

Looking for information on a John Marsden born 1816 in Derbyshire. Manufactured dry goods before starting to preach in 1835. Came to America in 1846 One of four brothers, all but one became ministers. Have obituary but no date of death for him.

BENNETT sisters Frances and Annie (1870s) married in Derbyshire

finnmac2000 — 2009-10-02 15:15:29Z

A long time since you posted so you may already be aware that William Marsden married Frances Mycock and not Frances E Bennett. This from his Will:

MARSDEN, William - of Stanton Hill Side, grocer, 11 Apr 1873.
wife Frances MARSDEN all real & personal estate until remarriage or death to provide for each of children until aged 21, then all divided equally amongst children; children real & personal estate on mother`s remarriage or death.
Executors: wife Frances MARSDEN & sister-in-law Elizabeth MYCOCK spinster.
Witnesses: John WAGSTAFFE of Winster barmaster, William WRIGHT of Darley Dale draper. Testator died 13 Apr 1873 Stanton Hillside.
May 1876: an Instrument of Renunciation under the hand of Elizabeth WILSON wife of Edward WILSON heretofore MYCOCK spinster, the Executrix for whom a power was reserved was filed.
Proved 30 Aug 1873 Derby by Frances MARSDEN; Effects <£100.
Power reserved to Elizabeth MYCOCK but later renounced in 1876 when she married Edward WILSON.

Re: John Marsden Derbyshire 1816

finnmac2000 — 2009-09-28 16:52:49Z

Is this when/where he was buried?

13 JAN 1894 Presbyterian Cemetery, Pottsville, PA

Re: John Marsden Derbyshire 1816

finnmac2000 — 2009-09-28 14:14:37Z

What are the brother's names?

Re: Street name help in Derby

rldriver — 2009-10-13 12:58:51Z

Thanks Denise for the reply. Molyneux is the street.

Richard Driver

Re: JOULE

theantiquarian2 — 2009-10-17 13:34:46Z

I was intrigued by your post regarding this name. Do you have a Joseph Joule b Walton Le Dale Lancs 1837 m Eleanor Hayes b 1836 Preston Lancs. They moved to Stockport Cheshire by the 1881 census with nine children. Daughter Eleanor M a Ralph Toft there in 1896-9.
Thank you

Re: WILBRAHAM of Clay Cross, Derbyshire

cezzawezza — 2009-10-04 09:16:56Z

Hi

I am also researching this family, i descend from Paul's older sister Mary Wilbourne b. 1776 who married Thomas Shepherd.

I have found 9 children baptised to Paul and Mary Wilbraham at the New Connection Methodist Church in Manchester

hope to hear back from you

Ceri
Ceri

Re: Street name help in Derby

onelayperson — 2009-10-13 10:05:25Z

You may like to consider the following site which will assist you in confirming the address.

http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/

Historical Directories is a digital library of local and trade directories for England and Wales, from 1750 to 1919

regards this board Admin onelayperson

Re: HUBBARD born at 79 Shaftesbury Crescent, Derby in 1887

gww1950 — 2009-10-06 14:39:52Z

I can't count how many times I walked along Shaftesbury Crescent on my way to the football match. Like the surrounding streets it was made up of terraced houses and the occasional corner shop. It's completely altered now because the Baseball Ground, (where football was played after the first two years of its existence), has gone. Lots of pictures can be found on this site:

www.picturethepast.org.uk

It's run by the local councils and museums. If you ever visit Derby, be sure to visit the Local Studies Library. You'll find a wealth of information there.