Dear Listers! Please be so kind as to lookup the following:

(1) Birth: Josiah (Joseph) Frampton 23 Apr 1734 in Dorset. Have searched IGI and Dorset OPC to no avail. (Unknown source points to Walter & Charity Frampton of Poole as poss. parents). I believe Josiah left Poole for Nfld before 1760 when he married my 4thGr-Grandmother Jane/Jean Hodder of Trinity Bay.

(2) Marriage: Walter Frampton & Charity (maiden name unknown).
Have found only one marriage - 24 Jun 1733 in Kinson for a Walter Frampton of Corfe & Charity Jenkins (DOR OPC) but cannot find any children.

(3) Birth of Walter Frampton and/or Charity Jenkins.

A mammoth task! But I'd be most grateful for any assistance you can offer.

Thanks so much, bonavistagirl

NOT much, but this does show Joseph, as child of Walter and Charity.

From baptisms on Find My Past.

Day: 23
Month: Apr
Year: 1734
Forenames: Joseph
Surname: FRAMPTON

Parents names: son of Walter & Charity

Place: Poole
Description: St James
County: Dorset
Country: England
Born or Notes:

Record source: Dorset Baptisms
Data provider: Dorset Family History Society

Thanks so much for your reply.

However, I have just learned that Josiah Frampton b 1734 to Walter & Charity Frampton apparently died the same year. (Frampton, Jos. 1734, Son of Walter -Poole St. James Burials 1710-1790).

It seems my original source, a history student, saw the perfect timeframe, recorded it, but didn't check burial records. As a result, numerous family trees in Nfld list Walter & Charity as their ancestor. All erroneous!!!

Lesson No. 1: Always verify information. Too many people cut corners in their research. I now have to start from scratch.

Josiah's death record in Nfld gives 29 Apr 1792 at age 58.
So he would have been born circa 1734 SOMEWHERE in Dorset.

Woe is me!

Where did you find the information about the burial.

His baptism is definitely JOSEPH, I got this from the Parish records, so it is definitely correct. Where are you living now, and what was the last definite name on your tree that you have in the UK. There are dozens of Framptons in Dorset.

More baptisms, one Joseph in 1834. To Josiah and Mary.

DAY: 3
Month: Jan
Year: 1830
Forenames: Joseph
Surname: FRAMPTON
Parents names: son of Richard & Mary
Place: Wyke Regis
Description:
County: Dorset
Country: England
Born or Notes: Gardener

Record source: Dorset Baptisms
Data provider: Dorset Family History Society


Day: 4
Month: Aug
Year: 1831
Forenames: Joseph
Surname: FRAMPTON
Parents names: son of George & Frances
Place: Yetminster
Description:
County: Dorset
Country: England
Born or Notes: Mason

Record source: Dorset Baptisms
Data provider: Dorset Family History Society

Day: 18
Month: May
Year: 1834
Forenames: Joseph
Surname: FRAMPTON
Parents names: son of Josiah & Mary
Place: Portesham
Description:
County: Dorset
Country: England
Born or Notes: Labourer

Record source: Dorset Baptisms
Data provider: Dorset Family History Society


WHO DID YOUR JOSEPH (JOSIAH) marry and when?

Hi again,

I didn't mean to imply that YOU were at fault. The information you gave me on Josiah's baptism record is perfectly correct. And I'm thankful!

The following was emailed to me yesterday, telling me I was on the wrong track with Walter & Charity because their son Josiah died the same year he was born. (I have not seen these records myself.

Poole St. James Baptisms 1653-1790
1734 - Frampton, Jos. - Walter & Charity

Poole St. James Burials 1710-1790
1734 - Frampton, Jos. - Son of Walter

Although the death record doesn't mention the mother, the Jos. buried here is more than likely the same one born to Walter & Charity.

There was a Walter Frampton who married Margaret Kent c1728 in Corfe Castle. They could have had a Jos. I suppose, but what are the chances?

Unfortunately the last one on my tree was Josiah himself and he left England
1750-60. So I'm up a creek without a paddle. And it's a long swim to England.

What prompted me to check my information in the first place was the fact that Josiah didn't name any of his children Walter or Charity. His first son was William and the next Robert, and both are plentiful in Dorset.

Once again, Woe is Me!!!

Should be 1734, not 1834. Not to worry!

Josiah married Jane/Jean Hodder, dau. of Richard & Mary Hodder
18 Oct. 1760 in Trinity Bay, Nfld. I don't know her family's origins.
Jane was born c1738. (died 1823 at age 85).

Josiah may have been indentured to a merchant fishing fleet from Poole.

What makes you so sure that he was born in 1734? The burial record for the 1734 Frampton, actually says Jno son of Walter, Jno usually means John but I agree that it is likely to be the boy Joseph. The baptism record shows the name Joseph, and NOT Josiah.

Jolly Good!!! What a relief to be getting information straight from the source! And what a "botch-up" can one single letter either transposed or incorrectly transcribed make in genealogy!

Here's something amusing. Findmypast's advise to anyone doing family trees: "DON'T FORGET TO KILL OFF YOUR ANCESTOR!" In other words, make certain he didn't die the day he was born, or even a few years later, before attributing children to him. How appropriate!

Josiah/Joseph was used interchangeably. His marriage record shows Josiah, but his death record (transcription) gives Joseph Frampton, interred Apr. 29, 1792, aged 59 years. So he would have been born circa 1733-34 but may not have been baptised until some time later. He was the only Josiah Frampton in Nfld, at least until the birth of his son Joseph in 1765.

The fact that your death record gives JNO instead of JOS prevents me from killing off poor Walter just yet. In the meantime I'll have to pursue all other possibilities. But how? If I were to subscribe to one single source for BMD records, where would you suggest for Dorset earliest records?

Great sleuthing! I can't thank you enough.