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Joseph Swan / Swann's Parents 1800's !!

sheilabonney  (View posts) Posted: 28 Jun 2009 7:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Swan, Swann, Suckling
We visited Wimbish this weekend but was unable to locathe following info:

Joseph Swan (Swann) (born 1833 Wimbish?) married Martha Suckling 1859 (born 1841 Thaxted).

What are their parents name?

Any record of what he died of and where buried?

We cannot locate him on the 1841c and was he born in Wimbish?

Thank you




Re: Joseph Swan / Swann's Parents 1800's !!

Susan2670  (View posts) Posted: 28 Jun 2009 7:42PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: Suckling
1841 HO107/328 Folio 40 (all born in county)
Robt Suckling 35 ...Ag Lab
Ann Suckling 35
Arthur Suckling 12
John Suckling 10
Thos Suckling 7
Martha Suckling 11mths
New Biggin, Thaxted, Essex

Sue

Re: Joseph Swan / Swann's Parents 1800's !!

Susan2670  (View posts) Posted: 28 Jun 2009 7:48PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: Swann
1841 HO107/340 Folio 25
John Swann 44
Mary Swann 30
James Swann 15
Geo Swann 14
Joseph Swann 11
John Swann 7
Wimbish Grove?, Wimbish, Essex

A copy of the marriage cert should confirm Josephs father.

Re: Joseph Swan / Swann's Parents 1800's !!

Robesure  (View posts) Posted: 29 Jun 2009 4:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Swan
I am not 100% convinced that the Joseph Swan found by Susan is the correct Joseph, although I cannot see an alternative.
In 1861 your Joseph was said to be 28 b. Wimbish and living with wife Martha 20, b. Thaxted. In 1841 I can see two Josephs living in Wimbish Green, a 4 year old, the son of James & Rebecca and the 11 year old with John & Mary. In 1851 only one can be found, he is 16 and a farm Labourer living with George Ruse and his family at Jenkinhogs Farm Radwinter, (which is literally on the border with Wimbish Green). Which one is this? If you look for the families James & Rebecca are still in Wimbish but no Joseph. John has died and Mary has remarried a John Taylor and they are living in Wimbish with 3 Swann sons, George 24, John 17, who match the 1841 census and a JOB 22, Is he the elder Joseph?, I think so. So the 16 year old should be the younger
Does Job 22 Marry Martha and become Joseph again in 1861 but only ageing a further 6 years?
The younger Joseph marries a Lydia and is living at Chrishall Grange in 1861 age 24 and they are in Wiltshire in 1871.
Come 1871 Joseph has died and Martha is living with a John Surrey at Wimbish Green. Did they marry? this couple appear in my family tree and I had not got a marriage and did not know Martha's maiden name, you have given it to me, thank you very much.
Going back is the Joseph Swan that married Martha the son of John & Mary. You will either have to buy the certificate or look up the entry in the parish register where they married to find out. Regarding Joseph's age, his death certificate should have this on it.

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