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GRO INDEXES - CHANGE IN LEGISLATION- NO LONGER ONLINE

deirdre534 — 4 Apr 2008 3:02:42 GMT

Today I received the following reply from findmypast regarding an email I sent them yesterday.

Thank you for your email.

The existing marriage records available on the site will remain however the GRO (General Records Office) will not be distributing any more Birth, Marriages or Death records in future as the law has now changed on this.

That means that therre will be no new records EVER for marriages after 2005 and births and deaths after 2006 that we can easliy access.

Further to my posting yesterday I thought it was marriage records only but in fact it is ALL idexes.
Why? We dont know. What is the change is the law exactly? We dont know.
I know this is a backward step and very worrying for future research.

Signature of informant on GRO England death certificates?

Snusherdownunder — 1 Dec 2008 10:53:23 GMT

Q1.
Column 7 of death certificates issued by the General Register Office is headed 'SIGNATURE, description and residence of informant'. However, on the certificates that I have obtained, it is quite obvious that there is NO SIGNATURE at all. Rather than a signature it is in fact the NAME of the informant that appears on the certificate, written out in the same handwriting as all the rest of the information. Where and when in the registration process does the informant actually sign?
Q2.
Would a better heading for column 7 be 'NAME,description and residence of informant'?
Attached file is extract from death certificate DYC 129169 of Henry Jermyn Snusher,issued 13 November 2008. Death registered 26 March 1928 in St George Hanover Square, London.

Death Record Not Found

spammerbait — 27 Nov 2008 12:54:14 GMT

Something that is puzzling me at present is my inability to find my Grand Uncle's death certificate in the BMD records. Now if someone has ideas on why that might be I'd be grateful to read them, but, thinking out loud ...

I feel fairly sure he would not have died outside of England as he always lived here and his wife and children remained here, most to a good age.

The one thing that has occurred to me is that he would have been aged 52 to 58 during WW II so, does any one know what would occur, record-wise, to someone who died during this time but so dramatically that a body wasn't found ?

Clutching at straws maybe, but it is puzzling me.

Thanks.

meaning of occupation *****ADMIN NOTE - move to occupations/general

bette_bayse — 30 Nov 2008 6:36:18 GMT

A female in the 1920s, what does it mean that the woman was a "laborer"?

certificates from ONS

oreot25 — 2 Oct 2008 11:43:03 GMT

I was wondering if you can go in to the Office for Nation Statistics and find your own certificates and get them copied for a better price then the 7.00 pound sterling that we have to send from Canada?? Where I live I can go to our library and get all the B.C. vital records copied for .20 cents each,
Thank you for any help
Carol

meaning of occupation *****ADMIN NOTE - move to occupations/general

cargor61 — 30 Nov 2008 6:36:33 GMT

On a death record, it states that the person was a "house decorator, master". Does anyone know the exact meaning of this profession? This was from the early 1900's in London. Is there a list or directory of tradesmen to check for this person's name? Thank you for any help.

ordering certificates from England

Bronwenelliott — 28 Jan 2008 12:53:41 GMT

Hi,can someone advise me of a reputable organization where i can apply & pay for a birth cert of my grandad in England,where i won't get ripped off,many many thanks,Bronwen.i can be contacted at kellyangel1613@hotmail.com.

Trust Fund Query

liz1420 — 24 Nov 2008 5:54:29 GMT

In my researches I’ve come across a brother and two sisters who inherited money (income from property & investments) from their grandfather. The money was held in trust. All three children were themselves childless, and resident in England. The terms of the trust were that the brother received the income from the trust fund during his lifetime, when he died his elder sister was entitled to it, and then the younger sister. When she died in 1950 the money left in the trust was distributed according to the will of he brother, who had died some 20 years earlier. I have copies of the wills of all three children, but I want to know where I can find the details of the final distribution of the trust funds, so I know how much money was left in the trust in 1950. Would this be available via the probate registry, or is it available elsewhere, or not at all? Can anyone help please?

Names of Cambridge or Eton graduates c1800

wadergirl — 5 Nov 2008 7:29:39 GMT

Ok, so I have an ancestor, Benjamin Wade, who was born Aug 1773 in "England" and d. Feb 1833 in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia. He is listed in a few different places as "Dr. Benjamin Wade" and "Benjamin Wade (surgeon)", and once (post-humus) as "Benjamin Wade Esq." It occurred to me, that if Benjamin Wade was born in England and by 1818 he first appears in Nova Scotia as a surgeon, he may have gone to Cambridge or Eaton for his training before he came to the "New World", especially if he has the suffix of esquire (which as I understand it was often used/given to graduates of these two colleges if they were not already titled).

Is there any way that Cambridge or Eaton kept records of who attended? Is it possible to search them?

English Passport applications 1920's

no1goldie — 2 Nov 2008 2:49:53 GMT

Does anyone know if it is possible to research for passport applications in the 1920's please?
If so, any guidance would be much appreciated.
Thank you
Carole

U.S.B. Birth Certificate.

keithataxetec — 6 Oct 2008 6:55:56 GMT

Could anyone please help me understand what the term U.S.B. means.

I have a ordered a birth certificate on which these letters appear under the "When & Where born" entry.

I was thinking maybe "Unsupervised Birth" - but I'm guessing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Questions re English records pre-1841

o2bnbaja — 5 Oct 2008 7:21:55 GMT

I am new to English research but have 30+ yrs doing Mexico genealogy. I see that the 1841 census was England's first. So does that mean that searching for ancestors before 1841 will depend mostly on church records and if so, what percent of these English church records have been "extracted" for the IGI by LDS?

Are most English church records on microfilm or just half or?

What is one to think of a family (1795-1841) that doesn't stay in one spot over the years ie in Yorkshire? Didn't English rural families stay put for generations?

Thanks!

India Trading Company

jennferrer — 5 Sep 2008 3:14:01 GMT

Hello.....

It looks like my ancestor (Arabella C. Jones b 14 Dec 1828) was a governess to a family (Henry C. G. Bedford) that worked for the India Trading Company. Not sure which one, since the occupation that Henry listed in 1871 is "India Office Chief Clerk of store department" I am trying to find out if there are records of the India Trading Company employees... and if there is a way to find out if they were still in England in 1861.

Thanks for help in advance.

Jennifer Jones

B.M.D. from 1673 in England

carolunderwood28 — 14 Sep 2008 7:29:43 GMT

Did put message up on another board ,and was told to look underground,somone with hurmour i guess,but not very helpful,if anyone can help me,Where to look for B.M.D. from 1673, would be so grateful, thanks carol. a little new at all this

born deaf and dumb in the 1800s

AnneSherman64 — 14 Sep 2008 7:34:24 GMT

My ancestor was (according to the census returns) born deaf and dumb in 1842, and lived with his grandparents from 1851 after his parents died. He later became a tailor in Devizes, Wiltshire, and then in London where he married his 2nd wife in 1871. (I dont know anything about his 1st wife as he appears to have married and then widowed between the 1861 census in Devizes and the 1871 census in London). I was initially surprised how well he had done considering his disability, during that period and wondered if there was some sort of support network where he could have met his 2nd wife who was also born deaf and dumb.

Boundary change

bertadams1 — 9 Sep 2008 2:21:44 GMT

I am looking for a place something like De[lfort] or Dedfort that possibly moved into Herts from Essex in the C19. Can anyone help?

question on English birth cert

cherels — 3 Sep 2008 9:33:09 GMT

could anyone tell me if you have just the mother on the birth finding if that person is illegitimate? even though the father was on the wed cert later on - i cant find the mother and father wed anywhere!

Hammersworth Location?

SMULVEY — 3 Sep 2008 7:54:21 GMT

Hi All,

Would any one know where Hammersworth is located in England? All that I can find when I googled it was a Hammersworth road.

Thanks,
Susan M.

Property Reverting to the English Crown

magimamoru2 — 4 Sep 2008 1:00:35 GMT

According to family history, an ancestor was not able to return to England and claim property left to him by his Grandfather. The Property reverted to the English Crown in abt. 1850. What are the records I'm looking for? If said records exist at all.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Cemeteries & Prisons

Hetshepsuit — 24 Aug 2008 10:00:48 GMT

I have come across some mentions of cemeteries / burials and prisons in my family research but am unable to locate them in England. Is there a resource where I can discover the locations of particular cemeteries, possibly defunct prisons (and associated records, cemeteries), and so on? What about churches that no longer exist? Many thanks!

Pre-1700 resources for Kent and Cornwall

lorrainewebb77 — 10 Jun 2008 10:42:33 GMT

hi doing family tree on both my mother and fathers side.have been doing well up to now but tring to find birth deaths and marriages of members going back 1700-1530 mainly in hadlow kent area. and st veeps in cornwall area. does anyone no where i can find these records or do i have to buy disc for these area and hope. many thanks lorraine

Handwritten additions on GRO birth records

cea5t — 25 Oct 2007 4:41:46 GMT

I have noticed many typewritten pages of the GRO records contain handwritten additions.

I had assumed that these were merely corrections of omissions, but now I have noticed that the page number is frequently suffixed with "A" or simply described as "see [AN]" where A is an alpha character and N is a number.

I am looking at births in the early 1950's, but suspect the phenomenon apples quite broadly.

Could someone please explain the significance of these additions, and the strange page-numbering?

English Parish Records

jannene3010 — 15 Aug 2008 5:32:18 GMT

Could someone tell me where i go after i have gone back as far as i can on the census.

Thank you

J Salter

English Sea Ports 1800's

Cosmo_1 — 6 Aug 2008 6:35:33 GMT

I have found my ancestor came to New York from England, leaving from the Bedford Port. I can't seem to find this on any English maps. Does anyone know where it was?

My family originated in Devon.

Thanks for information. Nancy Brandon

Gregory Fish - Bristol

ashfish — 18 Nov 2008 8:26:22 GMT

My ancestors on my father's side are descended from the Fish family who seemed to live in and around Stogursey, Somerset from about 1690 until the 1800s. I wold love to hear from anyone who knows anything about these people [family tree on genes reunited]. The name implies they were fishermen or fish sellers and Stogursey isn't far from the sea but Gregory Fish moved to Bristol to become a publican/Hotel Keeper with his wife and their son Joseph Perrett Fish became a Chemist [my gt grandfather]. Joseph married into the Yates family of Hastings [also Hoteliers].

Divorce - 1960s -England

jayneebradley — 13 May 2008 12:43:21 GMT

Can anyone help me ?

Are there any "databases" of divorce ? How could I go about tracing a divorce that took place in mid 1960s ?

Also....

If the woman (maiden name was BOOT), married in early 1960s and divorced 2 years later, remarrying in 1969....is her SECOND marriage likely to be registered as BOOT (her maiden name) or her first marriage surname of NEWTON - neither of which I can trace for 1968/9/70 ??

Any help anyone could give wold be MUCH appreciated !!!!

Langashire?? or a misspelling?

cippkid — 10 Jul 2008 1:24:37 GMT

I have in hand a copy of my Uncle's birth certificate. It lists his father's place of birth (c.1885) as Langashire, England. Was there such a place at that time? Or is this a misspelling?
Thank you for your assistance,
Judy

Where is Chief Side, England?

blanchierd — 13 Jun 2008 3:26:05 GMT

I have an ancestor named Charles Edward Tidswell, born April 3, 1856 in Chief Side, England, or so the story goes. His parents are John C Tidswell and Mary E Sharp, both born in England, and that's all I know. I can't come up with any info on Chief Side though, and I'm wondering if it is a very small town, or a nickname of somewhere? If you know anything about the location, I'd appreciate the help. Thank you!

BMDs prior to 1837

helenoshea197 — 15 May 2008 11:26:19 GMT

I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can search for Birth, Marriages & Deaths prior to 1837 thanks heaps.

ACCESSING OLD MAPS

TeamOwen — 21 Oct 2007 8:49:20 GMT

Where can I access old maps of certain areas, Multimap only deals with modern day towns etc. I don't want sites where you have to pay to get an antique! Only the ones where you can see the area before it may have been modernised and the older houses demolished. I'm mainly interested in the 19th century, just to see where my ancestors lived. Thanks

Clay Hills

carl1107 — 15 Jan 2006 8:26:52 GMT

Hi there,

I was hoping that someone maybe able to help me. I have a birth location, on a census return for 1851, of Clay Hills. Has anyone come across this place before or know of a place locally that may have been called Clay Hills. I was thinking that it may have been another term for Clent Hills, but would you have said that you were born in Clent hills or Clent?

I have done some googling and multimap searching and the only places I can find are in the south east of England.

Regards

Carl.

'Effects under..' on Probate Index

yvonne11564 — 7 Jun 2008 9:37:08 GMT

Hi All,
When I've been looking through Probate Indexes, I often see 'Effects under £1000' or 'Effects under £400' etc.
Does anyone know if these values are always rounded to the nearest hundred or five hundred or what the bands are?
I have someone whose effects were stated as under 10,000 - and don't know if this means between 9 and 10,000 or 5 and 10,000.
It would really be appreciated if anyone can explain the banding.

Many thanks
Yvonne

how do i order copys of certificates

colleymilneshall — 9 Apr 2008 12:21:26 GMT

can anyone please help, i wondered if i could order copys of certificates on this site and if so where do i do it.

thank you in advance

Marriages post 2005 - cannot search online

deirdre534 — 3 Apr 2008 5:15:37 GMT

An email today from another web site has advised that they now have 2006 birth and death records online but due to a change in legislation all marriage records from 2006 onwards will no longer be made available to search online and that you have to approach the local office where the event took place directly. (Yes thats the information we want to search for!)
This is the first I have heard of this. Does anyone else know about it? It looks like the thin end of the wedge before all new records willl not be made available online to me. Okay these are new records but they are useful in tracing living relatives as well. This in my opinion is bad news for the genealogy community regarding English/Welsh records.

Wellington Barracks

HeatherLea10 — 1 Apr 2008 2:15:51 GMT

Looking for an address of the Barracks. My grandmothers brother was a engineer on the Royal Scot, 2nd in fame to the Flying Scotsman. I was told to write to the Barracks for information. His name was William Sheerin and was born in Glasgow in 1890. Any help or guidance is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Death Certificate in England

Perplexed80 — 12 Mar 2008 7:34:46 GMT

When a female passes away in England, is the death certificate issued in the married surname or her birth surname?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Death in England

Perplexed80 — 7 Mar 2008 2:33:15 GMT

Could anyone tell me when a person passes away in England, is there usually an obituary. If so, where is the obituary normally posted?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Non-conformist Marriages

KenPestell — 4 Mar 2008 4:04:59 GMT

Could somebody tell me when it became possible for non-conformist churches/ministers to perform marriage ceremonies in England.

Looking for "Stanstead Abbey" either in Essex or Herfordshire in the 17th c.

vcook08 — 19 Feb 2008 2:55:19 GMT

I am having similar difficulty locating a place called "Stanstead Abbey" either in Essex or Herfordshire in the 17th c. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Birth registered as legitimate - could it be illegitimate?

katerimmer — 23 Sep 2004 9:43:05 GMT

I wonder if anyone can help me with this query. My late grandfather said that his father had an "illegitimate" family before he married my great-grandmother. I now have the birth certificates of these children, and they were all registered by their mother only, as though she was married to their father (i.e. she gives her surname and maiden name, and the father's name although he was not present at the registration). The births were registered in the 1880's and 1890's in London. My question is this: is it possible that the parents were not married? Would she have got away with this, or would the registrar have checked that they were married? I have not been able to find any record of a marriage between them.

Todingham Priory

oldarmymed — 10 Feb 2008 2:41:24 GMT

I find a lot of references to Todingham Priory in England for events dated in the 13th century. Does anyone know where this priory was located? Thanks.

British War Brides

corahlf — 24 Jan 2008 6:13:29 GMT

Hi,Folks,
Are there any searchable online indexes for British War Brides to either Canada or America during the 1940- 1945 timeframe.
Thankyou,
Leanne

Details on a death certificate

Andrea_Ruddick — 1 Feb 2008 1:19:43 GMT

I have a death certificate from 1952. In the section giving detail of the informant it reads 'W. Goodwin, causing the body to be buried ...' then gives an address.

As the lady died in hospital and was unmarried, is it safe to assume that the informant was either a friend, and the address is hers, or a nurse or official from the hospital? And the phrase 'causing the body to be buried', I know she was buried in an unmarked grave, so does that me she had no family or friends to bury her?

I've just found out that the informant lived in the next street to the cemetary where my lady was buried. Co-incidence?

All very sad sounding!

Many thanks

Andrea

Location of DOWN

rinken01 — 2 Feb 2008 10:28:45 GMT

Please, can anyone tell me the location of DOWN(S)

This was the English departure place for a number of Convict ships which sailed to Australia in the early 1800s

Is it anywhere near London & if it is a sea port, which river or coastline is it on?

With thanks Jean

Coroners report from 1950

andreabell10 — 2 Feb 2008 6:56:21 GMT

Hi

is it possible to get a copy of a coroners report/inquest from 17th March 1950?

i am trying to trace my Irish side of family and unfortunately am not getting very far, as my father is dead and so can't get any info there.

My Grandfather, Eugene Reilly, died in March 1950. His death certificate states "when and where died" that "Found dead 14th March 1950 on Railway Line at Viaduct, Chester-le-street, U.D.
His address at that time was 10 Seventh Avenue, Chester-Le-Street and that he was a General Labourer.
Cause of death was " Multiple severe injuries accidentally sustained when run over by a railway train while trespassing on the railway line".
Informant was "Certificate received from W.M Patterson coroner for East (Chester) ward of Coy Durham. Inquest held 17th March 1950"

I also have his marriage certificate which states that he was 30 yo on date of marriage, 6/10/1932, address was 32 Rutland Road, Ilford. His fathers name was Patrick Joseph Reilly who was a fireman.

I am trying to trace Irish records and am hoping that a coroners report may reflect his date of birth as well as place of birth, this will help me in tracing in Ireland.

Any info given will be greatly appreciated

Thanks, Andrea

The Acadia in 1965 England

sharonricketts39 — 26 Jan 2008 10:45:56 GMT

Hello

This is a shot in the dark but worth the try.
I have a photo of a pen paldated 25,10, 1965. Her name was Kathy & being as this is over 43 yrs. my memory is not as good. She sent it to me after I got married in July 1965.
She is standing in front of a building called The Acadia.
She would be close to me age. I would like to know what part of England this is in?.
I hope that someone would be able to look this place up or tell me where it is.
Thank you for your help with this matter.
Cheers
Sharon

Confusion re English marriage certificate - Dead Parent

01paulcox — 17 Jan 2008 9:12:36 GMT

I have an copy marriage certificate from 1862 of my Great Great Grandparents, which states that my Great Great Grandmothers fathers name was JOHN, and research on Ancestry on the census for 1841 does find the happy family of JOHN and wife HANNAH with daughter HANNAH residing in Holbeck, Leeds.

However by the 1861 census, HANNAH snr is shown as WIDOWED, 1 year BEFORE JOHN is listed as father at HANNAH jnrs wedding.

Is/was this standard procedure to state fathers name when deceased ?

Anyone offer an explanation ?

Where is MT. Bosworth located?

CharlotteRamos16 — 16 Dec 2007 12:02:08 GMT

Where is MT. Bosworth located in the UK? BMD has this listed under District on a death record I'm looking up.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks, Charlotte

What sources might exist for indenture sale records 1740's?

cplawson — 10 Dec 2007 5:42:30 GMT

Researching the Scottish Rebel prisoners transported in 1747 on the Ship Gildart. Recent findings indicate the actual auction took place on board the vessel very near or at Port Tobacco,Maryland. This would be offshore of Charles and St. Mary's counties Maryland.

The legal agreement signed September 25, 1746 to transport these men was between Richard Gildart of Liverpool and the English Treasury. I am trying to determine if the bill of sale for each prisoner would have been sent back to England, for proof that the prisoners were indeed serving their indentures. Is anyone familiar with those procedures and aware of where such records, if any, might exist in England?

Thank you.

where is Stoke Demeral?

65hplane — 24 Nov 2007 10:59:41 GMT

Does anyone know where Stoke Demeral is? I know it is in Devon, but I can't find it on any current map. I guess it could be a suburb of somewhere, but it is on birth etc. records, so I guessed it was a town.

Any help gratefully received as always!

Andrea

British rule of Hanover in 1800s? Any records or censuses?

samferris11 — 27 Nov 2007 12:42:51 GMT

We have traced my family back as far as a Henry Ferris b. in Hanover about 1832. By 1858, he had immigrated to NY where my great great grandfather and siblings were all born. According to my aunt, my great uncle claimed the Ferris' were originally of English and Scottish descent.

I know Hanover was closely tied and under British rule during the 17 and 1800s until 1837. I was thinking they left Hanover shortly after the British lost any political leverage.

I've searched without luck and was wondering if there are any Hanover censuses or British censuses of citizens living in Hanover?

county is Dillington in?

sdmwoolaver — 25 Nov 2007 7:05:17 GMT

What county is Dillington in?

My Grandfather was born there in October 1883.

Immigated to Nova Scotia Canada in 1911.

marriage indexes

carlandlorraine — 18 Oct 2007 1:32:25 GMT

I read somewhere that there are plans to link marriage records so that both partners are shown for the pre 1912 entries. Does any one know if this is true and if so when it will happen?

where is East Preston?

rosesgarden — 11 Nov 2007 3:41:47 GMT

Can anyone please tell me where East Preston is now. I know it changed in the 1900's. Both my grandparents were born and married in East Preston.

Also, can anyone tell me if there is a historical society for East Preston?

Marriage Look ups

familyhistorian64 — 24 Oct 2007 10:13:12 GMT

Can anyone tell me how to get a marriage look up done for all of England, or does it have to be done by county.
Many Thanks Audrey

Marriage on Christmas Day 1721

mickpye1 — 6 Nov 2007 2:45:46 GMT

Hi,
I'm just trying work something out. Two of my ancestors got married on the above date. Because they got married on Christmas Day, would that indicate they were people of status at the time? As far as I'm aware one of the families was descended from a very powerful local family in Lancashire, England.

Thanks.

Money held in Chancery

apn23 — 5 Nov 2007 8:43:29 GMT

Hi

Is there anywhere I can search for records of money held in Chancery? The dates I'm looking for information, are around 1840-1860.

Thanks

Ilford Ltd staff records

malcolmgp1 — 2 Jun 2006 1:22:31 GMT

Does anyone know if any staff records for Ilford Ltd can be accessed and if so, where? My gt-grandfather Herbert Joseph WILLS seems to have spent his entire working life from before 1891 to the 1930s employed there.

Dunmon England or Scotland

oldarmymed — 31 Oct 2007 12:21:47 GMT

I am trying to locate a village bnamed Dunmon in either England or Scotland. I find it referenced in many online trees for Alice de Sanford but have been ubnable to locate it. Thanks.

10H.O.M.A.M on English birth certificate - what's it mean??

AndyCharlotte — 14 Oct 2007 2:23:23 GMT

Hi

Have a UK birth certificate for 1867 which says, under when and where born:
22 Dec 1867 10H.O.M.A.M 21 Saint Ann's Well Road Nottingham.

Does anyone know what the "10H.O.M.A.M" means/refers to?

Thanks
Charlotte

Are there any restrictions who can order birth & death certificates in England?

kaseyrsteele — 15 Oct 2007 8:10:48 GMT

I'd like to know if "anyone" can order a copy of someone else's English birth and death certificates when the birth and death has taken place in recent times, say between 20 to 50 years ago? I don't see anything about this online.

I live in the United States and I'm used to all the restrictions, such as only the person named, or a parent, or child of said person, or grandparent of the person named on the certificate can get a copy. If I request copies for a birth 50 years ago and a death 25 years ago, could I get them without being one of the above mentioned? I have the forms and I've read all the instructions and even checked online but I don't see any restrictions mentioned.

Also, do they require a copy of my "picture identification", as vital records offices require in the States? I didn't see any mention of this online.

Also, I have all the information needed to identify the persons in question, but I don't have the Index Reference because the indexes online only go to about 1929. Will this cause a problem, an extra delay, even if I give them the exact date and name of person plus location?

Another thing, when reading the forms and online instructions, it says to give exact information as on the certificate, and if one item is incorrect according to the certificate, they will write back and say my information wasn't correct, or they will ask if I want the document anyway? For instance, if I say the person was a "writer" and the certificate says "journalist", they can reject my request. How can I explain to them that I want it with any info differences as long as it's for the person who was born or died on the correct day and most of my information is correct?

Thank you for any clarification you can give. My head is spinning.

Question re: England Marriage Registration Records

prestondiane — 29 Sep 2007 2:48:56 GMT

I believe I found the marriage registration for my gr gr gr grandparents. However, the page numbers differ for the entry, the groom's entry is on page 527, and the bride's entry is on page 327. Should the page numbers for both groom and bride match? Could this possibly be a transciption error? The marriage registration information was found online. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

fish of middlesbrough,stockton on tees

primroseviolets — 2 Mar 2006 8:36:05 GMT

i am searching for any information on wilson fish born 1850 in stockton england

English birth cert 1856 - Can someone tell me what this says...

leefranciswilhelmsen — 24 Aug 2007 6:38:36 GMT

Hi

The image attached is a scan from a English birth certificate from 1856. This is the "name, surname and maiden surname of mother" as well as "occupation of father" part of the certificate.

Can someone with a "trained eye" tell me what it says?

Regards
Lee Francis

baptismal practices early 19th century in England

audreybmorris — 21 Sep 2007 5:13:25 GMT

I seem to have two early-19th century families that did not baptize all of their children.

Is this unusual, or not so much? Does it indicate a particular church or sect of a church?

The first lived in Cambridgeshire. They baptized a few children, one of whom has a burial record. But most of the children that appear in the 1841 census do not have baptismal records. The family did not move during this time.

The second lived in Northumberland. There seem to be 4 baptized children (with no associated burial record in the parish). But now I seem to have found 2 children that were not baptized (one being my 3ggrandmother, the other being a daughter the mother is living with in 1841, with her family). I have not been able to locate the baptized children--but with names like "George Gilmore" and 3 counties minimum, I'm not sure I can!

Where is St. Olave?!

65hplane — 4 May 2007 9:05:15 GMT

On a marriage record, not a certificate, just the record you can see here on line, does anyone know where St. Olave might be? I am looking for a marriage in Norfolk, I have a feeling this might be London.

Many thanks

Andrea

What info contained on birth records ca. 1860?

blondie4091 — 16 Apr 2007 3:14:40 GMT

I have possibly found a birth record for ancester on BMD. I am hopeing to find names of parents.
Would it be in my best interest to pursue this further?

any help appreciated.
thanks,
Bonie

Maps of England circa 1945

hmathieson1 — 25 Mar 2007 10:56:53 GMT

"New Popular Edition Maps" circa 1945 for all of England at a scale of "1"
to the mile are available for viewing at:

http://www.npemap.org.uk/

View England in the immediate post war period. At this scale there is a
wealth of topographic and cultural information available.

The site is also undertaking a most interesting project. They are
endeavouring to build a data base of Post Codes for mapping purposes. See
the Guardian

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,,1936557,00....

As you browse the map (assuming you can identify your home address circa
1945) you can add your own Post Code to their data base. Apparently they are
able to get around the monopoly of the Post office as they are using out of
copyright maps. A second project ( http://www.freethepostcode.org/ ) is
also attempting to do the same, this time using GPS as the source of data
input for their post code data base. Currently "New Popular Edition Maps"
have 92% of the outward portion of the Post Codes identified. Their coverage
of Ireland and Scotland is scant. They have isolated 72% of the Post code
sectors and by my count they have 8200+ outward portion plus one digit of
the inward portion, of the Post Code.

At some point this data may become useful for mapping contemporary surname
distributions, assuming you have a source of surname Post Codes

Lana, England?

KarenJNelson1962 — 8 Sep 2007 3:51:32 GMT

On my gg grandfather's death certificate his place of birth was Lana England. Could anyone tell me if this place exists please? I have search through LDS website and it does not come up on a search.
Thank you
Karen

where in England is Rushcliffe?

Estella30 — 21 Aug 2007 11:00:31 GMT

One of my Dad's cousins died in 1986 in Rushcliffe. Whereabouts is it?

How to get copies of English marriage or birth cert.

grammymb1 — 27 Aug 2007 5:15:31 GMT

My cousin and I are researching the Southam family, who lived in Quinton, Gloucestershire, England,Devonshire, England and Loxley, Stratford on Avon, Warwickshire, England.
This is all fairly new to me, and especially searching in a different country!
I just need some basic information so I can get started.Where would I write for copies of documents? Also, are there searchers who take pictures of headstones, etc?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Marilyn

Searching for English passport records

fyrguy6 — 1 Dec 2006 1:35:20 GMT

Where would be the best place to write for a search for passport information? Much of my family traveled from England to the US frequently in the late 1800's to early 1900's or so-some eventually emigrated for good.

Would I need to know specific dates/ships/destinations or is there a place to pay for a search?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Where in England is Cornwood?

dandeloin30 — 30 Aug 2007 10:56:26 GMT

Can anyone tell me where Cornwood is located.I dont knkow where to look for info.

twins and England birth certificates

jb1950 — 30 Jul 2007 12:30:54 GMT

Does anyone know if being a twin was mentioned on birth certificates in England around 1847 and if so what would it say?

Maidstone ???

nativeprid — 13 Aug 2007 2:35:17 GMT

Where is Maidstone ? or what county, town or city would one post for a notice searching for someone if this is the name but not listed on the locations in ancestry ??

England Marriage Records - What Information Might They Contain

Sleibhe — 6 Jul 2007 9:28:01 GMT

What information would an England civil marriage record contain?

The information I'm trying to find is:
Date of Birth
Parent or Parents Names
Birth Location

Apart from the civil marriage record, would there be a church marriage record too?

Are the records in date order for all of England and Wales, are they available online for all of England or do I need a marriage location in England to search them in that location or find it?

Thanks for any information.

Tourby, a town in England?

gwhite007 — 2 Aug 2007 11:28:09 GMT

I was given some information about a town in England, although cannot read the writting, but it looks like the town is Tourby, does that sound familar to anyone???

Thanks

Karen Hazelton Lashin

Country of Birth

ian_a_mathers — 15 Jul 2007 12:34:06 GMT

Does anyone know of a good reason why a Jewish family originating in and living in England in the period 1850-1880 might falsely represent that the children were born in France and Switzerland, rather than in England?

Knighted Government Officials 1800's

kevinchi — 11 Jul 2007 7:39:31 GMT

I am looking for any type of resources, which contains the names of officials that were knighted by king Edward during the mid 1800’s (1820 to 1826). I have an ancestor named Richard Cross who was supposedly knighted and sent to Quebec Canada to be a customs officer in the year of 1826. I am trying to find any information about him.

thanks,
My email is KBRAUN@glenbrook.k12.il.us

Kevin Braun
Chicago IL

1916 England Death Record - What Information Would It Contain?

Sleibhe — 5 Jul 2007 4:15:46 GMT

What information would an England 1916 death record contain?
I'm trying to find out the date of birth of someone who died that year, their parents names and birthplace.
Would the death record include that information?
Do I have to know where in England the deceased's family resided to find the death record for that location?
Also would there be a separate church death record for the deceased separate and apart from the civil death record?

Thanks for any information.

Forest Gate

tadprince — 30 Jan 2007 11:46:49 GMT

Can anyone tell me what town or parish Forest Gate would have come under in about 1860? I am researching a wife of an ancestor and on the census she says that she was born in Forest Gate but having searched all of the birth records online from 1858 to 1870 have not come across one person from that area.

Thanks
tad

information on b/d/m/before 1837

horseshair — 8 Mar 2007 8:17:30 GMT

is there anywhere one can lookup online b/d/m/ that took place before 1837.

Another Q on quarterly marriage indexes

mmorrow88 — 23 Mar 2006 3:48:48 GMT

I'm looking for a marriage that would have occurred beween 1901 and 1910. However, I have at least some reason to believe the couple never actually got married. Can anyone tell me how complete the original quarterly marriage indexes are considered to be? In other words, if I search the indexes every way I can think of - considering alternate spellings etc, and it simply is not there, is it reasonable to conclude the marriage did not happen, or is it just as likely it happened but did not get registered? Or put another way, are the indexes believed to contain 99.9% of all marriages that occurred, or only 50, 60 or 70%? That's what I'm trying to get a feel for before drawing any conclusions. Thanks.

Marriage index numbers Help

nicolasaunders6 — 18 Jun 2007 4:40:13 GMT

Hi there
Can anybody tell me, if you have an index number, as i have, for example

Marriage Charles Pearce - St oalve - Index number 1d 344.

is there anyway of search for the index number in order to find out who the bride was????

any advice would be great
Thanks
Nicki

Geography of England query

Kwrennwhit — 19 Jun 2007 12:04:53 GMT

Where is Portsea Island?
Where is Harts or Hants County?
Where is the County of Southampton?

Placename help please: Volsley, ca. 1558

capnjohn42 — 29 May 2007 2:47:57 GMT

Can't find it at Genuki or via Google. Any help??

TIA!!

Cap'n John

Birmingham - Staffordshire or Warwickshire????

frootloopa — 12 Jun 2007 2:31:35 GMT

Please help a Canuck out! All my documents state that Birmingham's county is Stafford, but when I search I find Birmingham is in Warwickshire. Did this change after 1914? Or does it border 2 counties? If I've been posting in the wrong community, I sincerely apologize.
Cathy

Ward of the Crown

caerdane — 15 Mar 2007 5:52:57 GMT

I am researching the possibility that someone was made a "Ward of the Crown" in England at the latter part of the 18th century, would anyone know if records were kept for this act, and if so, how would I access them ?

Many thanks

Marriage Certificates, the Father

greydell — 24 Nov 2006 12:40:30 GMT

Is the Father in a marriage certificate always the biological father? I have 2 certificates from the 1840s in which the father's surname differs, one for a groom and the other for a bride, although the bride is named as a spinster.

In the latter case the 'father' appears to be living in the same building as the bride in the 1841 Census. I am wondering if the church sometimes recorded the name of the man who gave the bride away, if the father was unknown.

In the case of the man, his christening in 1823 gives only his mother's name. Yet a man with quite a different surname is recorded in the marriage certificate as his father.

Richard

Where is Somerby and Scarby ?

dragonladylfn — 19 May 2007 2:33:09 GMT

Could someone please help me out and tell me where Somerby is located?

I have a birth date of July 1837 in Somerby-Lines
I have a birth date of December 1798 in Scarby.

Since I am not sure where these places are I am unsure what county/district to look them up.

ANy help would be greatly appreciated.

List of British Knights

taxtroll — 13 Apr 2007 5:39:58 GMT

I just found out that I have a cousin that was knighted. The person I spoke to doesn't remember his first name and only referred to him as Sir Jablon/Yablon. He was a chemist, born in Lithuania probably in the 1890s. Does anyone know of a database online of people with honorary knighthoods? I'm striking out on Google.

Thanks for your help

what English records are likely to name father for out-of-wedlock child?

terrylwharton4 — 28 Mar 2007 6:20:27 GMT

Has anyone had any experience trying to find the name of the father of a child who appears to be born out of wedlock in the 1850s? I have not ordered a birth certificate yet...is it likely to be on a certificate?
Is it likely to be in baptismal records?
The birth occurred between the 1851 and 1861 English censuses. In the 1851 census the mother is listed as a servant with a Paddington, Middlesex, England family that included 5 servants. The mother left England in 1857 with the child, listing him with her maiden surname on a ship's passenger list.
The mother married shortly after arriving in New York City in 1857, to someone from her hometown in England, and then followed her intention of settling in Canada.

What would a death certificate from 1897 contain?

Michelle_Woltman — 6 Apr 2007 9:13:28 GMT

An ancestor died in England and I've never researched overseas before so am unsure what an English death cert would contain. Thank you

1770 Birth Records

lilabaier — 30 Mar 2007 3:11:02 GMT

Can anyone tell me if early birth records can be obtained from a central office in England? The GRO has them from 1837 on but I'm looking for birth records from the mid 1770's.

Thank You,
Lila

Edward Fyshe born 1475 of Great Bowden England

orqlts — 29 Nov 2008 9:57:41 GMT

I am the 14th great granddaughter of Edward Fyshe born 1475 of Great Bowden England and would like to make contact with any living relatives in England. Would also like any info on ancestors. Please email me. Thanks Deb

Islington Row

RitaBailey16 — 22 Mar 2007 12:17:16 GMT

I am trying to trace an address from the late 1890s. It is Osborne House, Islington Row.

It is not the Islington Row in Birmingham and there does not appear to be an Islington Row in London.

Help please anyone.

Changing a witness name on a marriage certificate

janeadams174 — 13 Feb 2007 12:50:52 GMT

Was looking through all my certificates last night and I noticed on one marriage certificate the name of one of the witnesses has been amended, but about 3 months AFTER the wedding (the wedding was in October 1902 and the amendment is in January 1903).

The original witness was the brother of the bride, and he has been changed to one of her other brothers.

Can anyone suggest any hypothetical reasons for this? How would they go about getting this done. The entry is amended, and initialled by the vicar.

Jane

Surname databases in Liverpool or Cheshire?

LPrice99 — 3 Mar 2007 6:04:38 GMT

Is there an organization or organizations in Liverpool or Cheshire which has genealogy databases available to view in order to find lineage?
L.P

Where is Lightwater?

KelsoBelle — 19 Oct 2006 5:07:03 GMT

What county or parish or whatever the area is called is the village of Lightwater in, please? I believe it's an hour or so out of London.

Thanks so very much,
Harlene Soper Brown

Friendly Societies Act Birth Certificate?

vainio1 — 2 Mar 2007 3:43:37 GMT

Hi, I've come across a Certificate of Birth for my grandfather but it's unlike any other UK birth certificate I've seen. It has been issued by the "(Friendly Societies Act, 1896; 59 and 60 Vict., cap. 25)", Form No. 4. It was issued as a "true copy of the Register" and dated about 17 years after my grandfather was born. What type of a birth certificate is this?