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Re: ARNOS VALE Cem. BRISTOL Lookup/Photo needed

RayConsidine — 2009-11-07 21:29:09Z

Thank you for the information. I'll contact the cemetery and post further when I know more.

Re: ARNOS VALE Cem. BRISTOL Lookup/Photo needed

barnzzz — 2009-11-07 21:13:13Z

Hi there, if you can get the location of the graves I'll be happy to go and take a 'photo for you as I live very close to the cemetery.

Sue

John WYNNIATT or WINNIATT - b Snowshill? c 1670

2009-11-07 17:13:15Z

Would anyone be able to do a look up of parish records. I have gone back as far as JOHN WINNIATT (Wynniatt?) who married Susanna Payne in 1691 in Snowshill, Glos. John was born c1670 - not entirely sure where, but assuming Snowshill. I am looking for some connection with the Wynniatt's in Dymock.
Many thanks

John Merchant b Winstone 1819

chrishiggins52 — 2009-11-07 17:12:01Z

I need some help in tracing John Merchants parents, tried the record office etc, but to no avail.He was born in Winstone and married a Sarah born around 1817. Any info much appreciated

Chris H

ARNOS VALE Cem. BRISTOL Lookup/Photo needed

RayConsidine — 2009-11-07 17:11:18Z

Hello-

I'm told that Mary LASBURY d. 1875 and Elizabeth NORMAN d. 1920s and her husband Edwin George NORMAN d. 1903 are buried at Arnos Vale Cemetery in Bristol. Would anyone have access to a cemetery index or records to confirm this? I'd also be interested in any other LASBURY's buried there. Also, does anyone know of a volunteer who would take a digital picture of these graves. I live in the U.S. and any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: ARNOS VALE Cem. BRISTOL Lookup/Photo needed

Nashua2001 — 2009-11-07 16:50:49Z

Hi Arnos Vale burial records are not available for searches by the public, but can be arranged through their web site for £23. See www.arnosvale.org.uk & www.bafhs.org.uk for information.
Nashua

Re: John Merchant 1819

Ovener — 2009-11-06 15:00:01Z

Chris,

The GFHS CD of GLS baptisms 1813 to 1837 gives no JW born 1819.

Google for GFHS if you wish to buy a CD. They also have a marriage CD 1800 to 1837.

Installing the CD's includes acceptance of the licence which forbids giving info for look-ups on the net.

O

O

Re: WYNNIATT/WINNIATT - Glos. c 1670

andrewwinnett1 — 2009-11-06 12:20:23Z

Hi Gordon,

While browsing I found your message about the Wynniatt family. I have quite an interest in the family as my name is Winnett. Several Wynniatt families in the past "evolved" into Winnett families.

I have a website devoted to this research: www.winnettorigins.com

Part of my research also involves using DNA studies to link families, which has been of great use so far. I would be very grateful if you (or other relatives) would consider joining the DNA project - details on the website.

In the meantime, I will see if I can shed any further light on your ancestry from details I have.

Regards,

Andrew Winnett
London

Re: Thomas Platt

ttalppi — 2009-11-05 22:17:56Z

O, Thanks for the info but although a complete novice at this, I have been steered in the right direction already and am awaiting my first batch of Certificates from the GRO in UK. However all tips and advice are welcome and links like this have already proved positive and useful.

Regards, Peter.

Re: Thomas Platt

Merice46 — 2009-11-05 18:42:21Z

Hi,
Thomas Platt - Elizabeth Small

St John Bedminster 12.11.1832

Regards

Sandra

Thomas PLATT b Bristol 1812

ttalppi — 2009-11-05 18:42:02Z

b. 1812 Bristol Glos
m. 'Elizabeth" (surname unkown) b. 1814 Bristol Glos
7 offspring Irene 1841 George 1844 Eliza 1847 William 1851 Augustus 1853 Thomas 1855 (Birmingham) Albert 1858 (Birmingham)

Any information gratefully received - dates shown may not be accurate.

MEADOWS family Ireland > Longborough abt 1700

2009-11-05 18:36:24Z

(Gloucestershire)

I am trying to find info. on the circumstances in which my ancestors Meadows came to the village of
Longborough from Ireland around 1700 & were able to become tenant farmers on arrival. They may
have been tennants of the Shuckboroughs or some other landowners. Any lead from Glos. Ireland or
whatever would be useful. They do not appear to be related to the Gloucester Meadows family.

Re: Thomas Platt

Merice46 — 2009-11-05 13:34:51Z

Hi,
Not related,sorry.

Regards

Sandra

Re: Thomas Platt

Ovener — 2009-11-05 08:15:33Z

Noname,

You really need to obtain a birth certificate of one of Thomas's children the GRO references of which can be found at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Google for GRO: certs can be bought on line for £7 each.

Whenever you find or are given information you must always make a record of where it was found for future reference and verification purposes.

If you haven't already been there, you should go to http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/ where there is more help, advice and links than you will find in any book.

Regards

O

Re: Thomas Platt

ttalppi — 2009-11-05 06:21:57Z

Hello Sandra.

This is fantastic. Thank you.
Can you tell me if you are connected?

Best wishes, Peter Platt.

Re: meadows

vivien_meadows — 2009-11-04 22:57:58Z

changed my email address to vivlm@btinternet.com years ago
so this is proably the 1st reply
viv meadows

Emily Ann STONE mar. Samuel Frederick GYFORD

brendaedmonds1 — 2009-11-02 14:10:49Z

In searching the name Gyford, I came up with their marriage in Dover, Kent in March Quarter 1895. In 1901 census there is a Samuel Gyford age 24, born Suffolk, Bedfield Butcher and Grocers Porter - This Samuel is the right age but there is no Emily listed. In October 1902 Emily has a son born at 31 Herbert Street Bristol so she had not died and lists Samuel as a soldier. . A search on 31 Herbert St. Stapleton and/or Bristol came up with nothing.
Can anyone shed any light on Emily or Samuel Gyford? or 31 Herbert St.?
I'm wondering if there is a mystery brewing.
Brenda Edmonds, St. Thomas Ontario Canada

HELLINGS

2009-11-02 14:02:07Z

Hi Neil,

Thanks for your responce, it dousn't seem as if they are related. but as I said before your Hellings is the first other HELLINGS I have come across anywhere. I am findimg the name very elusive. I am going into Sydney next week to the S.A.G. to see if I can find something through them. I am surprised the name is so rare. Thanks again for your help. Good luck with your research!

Anne

Ancestral families in Gloucestershire

2009-11-02 13:55:40Z

I am a decendent of these people who were in Glouchestershire. George William Berry b. Feb.2, 1837 in Berkley. He went to America before 1860's and settled in Rugby, Tennessee. He was son of William Berry Sr. berkley b. 1809 and died 1874.

William Berry married Hannah Cornock baptised Nov. 29, 1812 and died about 1884 possibly in Wales. Their children
were: William Berry Jr.b 1835. George Berry 1837, Ann Berry Bryant 1839, Jane Berry Northern 1841, James Berry b.1845 d. 1942, Elizabeth Berry Bryant 1853-1917, Edward Berry 1856-1939 Postmaster wickwar, Eng.

Anna Mary Tilly married George William Berry in Deerfield, Mass. in 1861. She was the daughter of James B. Tilly and Sarah Perry Gloustershire. Anna was Baptised Jan 17, 1843 in Glaster. Anna lived within one mile of the "OLd Chestnut Tree near Tortworth.

Hannah was the daughter of James Cornock and Jane Tanner

Hatton's in Dover

2009-11-02 13:49:57Z

I have Hattons in Charlton Dover Kent, 1805-1855.
The line ends here as I cannot go any further.
Thomas Hatton m. Jane ? (approx.1824)

m. Hannah Haywood Lewis (1842)
Children: Jane, Susanah, Thomas, George, Lydia, Robert.

Willaim, James, Elizabeth, Hannah, Edward.
Is there a connection.
Regrads Wayne

Hattons

2009-11-02 13:49:23Z

I have Hattons from the Forest of Dean area in my family tree. They are mostly living around the Newnham area of Glos. Please let me know if you would like fuller details. My e-mail address is sianlambert@yahoo.com

HOLDER Familes of Gloucester,Taynton,Bulley 1600-1800

2009-10-19 12:31:20Z

lokking for holders from 1600 to 1800 from gloucester,taynton,bulley,and surrounding areas,regards brenda xx

Elizabeth TAYLOR (nee HOLDER) b Stanway 1869 > Canada

2009-10-19 12:28:08Z

My great grandmother, Elizabeth Holder, was born Dec. 13, 1869 at Papermill Farm, Stanway, Gloucestershire, England.
She married Owen Taylor Senior of Crimscote, Warwickshire, England. They came to Canada October, 1902.
I am searching for Holder and Russell family.
Elizabeth's parents were:
John Holder of Papermill Farm, Stanway, Glos. and Fanny Russell of Snowshill, Glos.
Their children were:
John b. 1855; Richard b. 1860; Albert Henry b. 1857; William b. 1863; Ann born 1865 and my great grandma Elizabeth. Please contact me if you think we are connected. thank you
Shirley from Canada

Re: Looking for Holder and Russell family

hkenneally259 — 2009-10-19 12:32:29Z

Well Shirley we are related, how exciting! I am new to this but I can tell you a little of my background. My maiden name is Holder. My father was Leslie Owen Victor Edward Holder (bit of mouthful)born 1902 and died 1987. He was one of 12 children. His father was William Holder one of 7 siblings Brother to your Great Grandmother and Grandfather to me. He was Born about 1864 - died 1947. He married Lizzie T Collett (my Grandmother)born 1864 - 1944. Williams fathers was John Holder born 1803 died 1900 he married Fanny Maria Russell born 1828 Snowhill and died 1917. They lived in Paper Mill Farm Stanway Gloucestershire - a truly beautiful Cotswold village - I was there 2 weeks ago and found the graves of Sarah Ann died 16/04/1904 of Paper Mill Farm aged 38 yrs AND your Great Grandmother died 3/11/1917 (89 yrs) and John 27/04/1874 18 yrs. I haven't taken photos yet as the battery of my camera decided to play up. fuelled by this find I went to a place called Bishops Cleeve and found several graves stones of the Holders. Mainly JOhn HOlder Fanny's husband and 4 of his sisters Sarah Ann Elizabeth and Jane. I am still in the process of compiling all these records. Its all very confusing as they mostly called Sarah, John William Ann and Elizabeth.
Regards

Helen Kenneally

John HOLDER b 1831 Bishops Cleeve

hkenneally259 — 2009-10-19 12:30:28Z

Hi Trisha

This may help. I have tracked a Joseph Holder born 1831 son of John Holder born around 1777 Stoke Orchard and his wife Pheobe born Bishops Cleeve. Joseph had 5 brothers and sister. Ann Holder born 1826, William Born 1829 Elizabeeth born 1832 Emma born 1835 and Jane 1838. All approx birth years.
Joseph and Harriet had 8 children.
Annie Born 1867 Bishops Cleeve Ernest born 1868 Bishops Cleeve Frank Born 1865 Bishops Cleeve William H Born1856 Woodmancote Emma born 1859 Woodmancote Charles Born 1861 Harry 1870 and Walter born 1863

In the 1871 census they were living at California Farm (poor writing so not sure if this is correct - am still researching) at Charlton Kings.

Regards
Helen

Re: Isabella Mitchell and John Shadwell Horfield nr Bristol

lesleydrake — 2009-11-01 15:13:43Z

They would be born prior to censuses, probably in the 1750s and 60s. There is info from the Horfield parish church online that one of their daughters Isabella is buried in the churchyard, died aged 3 yrs 2mths in 1763.
John Shadwell snr died in Brussels in 1777 and was Lord of the manor of Horfield. His son John took over, followed by another son Richard. Isabella Shadwell nee Mitchell died in Bristol in 1815 aged 85.
So that is 3 of their children I know of. Just want to confirm Thomas Mitchell Shadwell is another one.

Isabella Mitchell and John Shadwell of Horfield nr Bristol 18C

lesleydrake — 2009-11-01 15:12:13Z

I am looking for more info on the descendents of Isabella Mitchell and John Shadwell. From very helpful contacts previously, I learned that they had 9 children, one of whom I am hoping to confirm is my gt gt gt grandfather Thomas Mitchell Shadwell.
He married Letitia Williams in London in 1808.
Hopefully someone local to Horfield parish might know how to get hold of the names of the 9 children.
Many thanks,
Lesley

Re: Isabella Mitchell and John Shadwell Horfield nr Bristol

lesleydrake — 2009-10-31 20:01:01Z

I have tried your suggestion Ovener,but with no luck!never mind. FamilySearch does have their marriage in cork, but its the 9 offspring I'm after!

Re: Death record

wendy5259 — 2009-10-21 13:29:07Z

Thanks so much for the response, but I'm lost on the SOM/GLS border. What is that? There was a family story that he was killed in a mine accident. Do you know how I would find that out? Thanks again. Wendy

Eliza JONES b1844 Coleford

cazwiffen — 2009-10-23 16:42:10Z

looking for any descendants/ancestors of Eliza/elizabeth Jones b1844 Coleford, father James Jones, mother poss Charlotte, any help appreciated. Elizabeth Jones married William Hutton 1870 in Kensington London, daughter Elizabeth b1870 is my g-grandmother. Thanks

Re: Eliza JONES b1844 Coleford

cazwiffen — 2009-10-25 16:33:39Z

many thanks. Carole

Re: Ruardean GLS

BMANZKE — 2009-11-02 13:48:57Z

Kerrie,

Do you have any other info on Diana West of Quenington. I am searching for the parents and family of Edward West of Quenington (b. abt 1775) who later married Hanna Lovett in Fairford.

Many thanks,

Bill
bmanzke@columbus.rr.com
Ohio, USA

Emma Jane HOLDER b 1859 Bishops Cleeve

Trisha_Sayers — 2009-10-19 12:28:53Z

I am reseaching Emma Jane Holder b 1859 she had brothers William & Charles. Parents were Joseph b1831 and Harriet, Josephs father was John b 1781 mother Anne but I think he might have been married before, a farmer in Bishops Cleeve, Woodmancote and Stoke Orchard all areas close together in Gloucestershire

Re: Death record

Merice46 — 2009-10-21 14:26:25Z

Hi,
1861 census for Bedminster Bristol

Piece 1705 Fol 129 Page 13

7 Providence Place

Joseph Silcox 32 gen. haulier born Norton [Midsomer Norton]
Somerset
Emma 33 born Bedminster
Alfred 9 born Norton
Samuel 7 born Norton
Frederick 2 born Bedminster
Jane 1 month born Bedminster

1871 Piece 2508 Fol 116 Page 14 Bedminster

Emma is a widow and the additional children are
Henry 7 born Bedminster
Katherine 4 born Bedminster
Frederick 1 month born Bedminster

Marriage

Joseph Silcox - Emma Morgan

Clutton 11 101 Sep.Qtr 1851

The marriage cert. will have his and Emma's fathers' names on it.I can't seem to find him with his family in the 1841 census.

Regards

Sandra

Re: Isabella Mitchell and John Shadwell Horfield nr Bristol

Merice46 — 2009-11-01 15:13:17Z

Hi,
There is no reference to the name Shadwell for baptisms or marriages in South Gloucestershire/Bristol in the early 1800's.Have a look at Freebmd and you will see where marriages and birth regs. took place.The census shows the same lack of info.Where did your info come from?

Regards

Sandra

Re: Kate COLLEY(b 1891 Ledbury) and Frederick Francis REAY

Merice46 — 2009-10-28 06:48:27Z

Hi,
Can find the birth regs. of the two sons but not the marriage?

Regards

Sandra

Kate COLLEY(b 1891 Ledbury) and Frederick Francis REAY

thereays146 — 2009-10-27 23:31:50Z

I think Kate was born in 1891 in Ledbury, Glos. I believe it is this Kate who married my husband's grandfather after his first wife died in 1913.

Struggling to find any information - can anyone help please?
They had two children, Arthur Ernest Reay 1926 and Leslie Reay in 1924. Sadly both seem to have died and their spouses.

Thanks. Irene

Re: Kate COLLEY(b 1891 Ledbury) and Frederick Francis REAY

thereays146 — 2009-10-30 12:40:22Z

Thanks for your replies. Had hoped someone could tell me positively whether they were actually married - almost sure they were not (family whispers).
Will keep looking, Irene

Re: Kate COLLEY(b 1891 Ledbury) and Frederick Francis REAY

thereays146 — 2009-11-01 16:09:44Z

Yes I have the birth certificates which state Mother: Kate Reay formerly Colley. Have not been able to establish whether she was married before linking up with Frederick Francis Reay, neither can I find a marriage certificate for this relationship with FF. He was married before and after Kate, and I have the evidence of that.
Many thanks for your interest, Irene

Re: Kate COLLEY(b 1891 Ledbury) and Frederick Francis REAY

ELLinSpain — 2009-10-31 17:16:26Z

Have you a copy of the childrens birth certs confirming the mothers maiden name? was the lady married before?

Alfred Edward Hatton born in Coleford, Glos. in 1837

kerriem61 — 2009-11-02 13:57:25Z

I am related to this family. My g grandfather was Alfred Edward Hatton born in Coleford, Glos. in 1837. His father was John Hatton (Tailor & Draper) b. 1800 who married Harriet Horton. John's father was Thomas Hatton b. 1767 in Quenington and he married Jane? (not from Glos.)

Thomas was the eldest son of Edward Hatton & Hannah (Anna) Edgington (Edgerton)m. in Quenington in 1766. He was born in 1745 and Hannah born in 1743 in Quenington.

Thomas Hatton (Tailor & Draper) bapt. 21 July 1767 Quenington who married Jane b. 1768. They also had a daughter named Jane Hatton b. 11 November 1804 Coleford. All the rest is correct i.e. Thomas & John's father Edward Hatton b. 6 January 1745 in Quenington (Papermaker) & married on 23 Nov. 1766 Hannah (Anna) Edgerton bap. 26 June 1743 Quenington. Hannah had a sister Elizabeth bap. 20 Oct. 1736 Quenington & their father was David Edgington md. Mary Rodoway 1 November 1734, Quenington, Gloucester.

I cannot get back any further however I believe Edward's father would have been named Thomas Hatton or John Hatton as he called his first 2 sons Thomas & John. The rest of the children are:
Thomas Hatton b.1767 Quenington (My ggg grandfather)
Ann Hatton b. 1769;
Edward Hatton b. 1771;
John Hatton b. 1772;
Hannah Hatton b. 1773;
Paul Hatton b. 1776;
Peter Hatton b. 1779;
David Hatton b. 1782 Quenington d. 7 Oct. 1841 Newland Age 59( married 6 Dec. 1814, Diana West b. 1775 of Quenington & they owned the Newland Inn). Their son was John Hatton bapt. 10 Sept. 1816 died 17 Dec.1887 - Surgeon of Haverford West. (Cousin of my gggrandfather John Hatton. On his death certificate "Thomas John" was present. Death certificate lists his death (17 December 1887)at Goat Street, St. Mary, Haverford-west, County of Penbroke. Age 71 years. He married a Maria and had the following children: Fanny b. abt 1842; Kate: b. abt. 1844; Florence b. abt. 1847 All in Coleford.

Newland Village 1851 Census
Diana Hatton widow of David Hatton d. aed 76 innkeeper born Bloomfield, Somerset.
Harriet Hatton Servant un. 57 House Servant b. quenington.
( Harriet Hatton b. 1793 to Hannah Hatton bap. 1773 Quenington (daughter of Edward & Hannah Hatton)).

The Hatton's also owned the White Hart Inn and the Newland Inn.

My g grandfather Alfred came to Australia and had several children of whom the eldest son Edward Alfred Hatton was my grandfather and his son Stanley Hatton was my father.

If anyone can throw some light on Edward Hatton's father it would be appreciated.

Regards,

Kerrie McInnes (nee Hatton)

Re: Kate COLLEY(b 1891 Ledbury) and Frederick Francis REAY

Ovener — 2009-10-28 09:06:17Z

Irene,

Every researcher will find Parloc - a free parish locator prog useful - get it from http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parlocdl.html

Parloc shows that Ledbury was in Herefordshire and using freebmd - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl - you will find a Kate (aka Margaret Kate?) birth registration.

Perhaps further searches in HEF will solve all.

Re: Death record

Ovener — 2009-10-27 07:52:09Z

Wendy,

If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.htm and look around a 100 year old map of Bedminster you'll see there were coal mines in the middle of the place.

Regards

O

Re: Eliza JONES b1844 Coleford

Ovener — 2009-10-24 07:16:32Z

??,

Try your luck at http://www.forest-of-dean.net/#

O

Re: Isabella Mitchell and John Shadwell Horfield nr Bristol

Ovener — 2009-10-31 17:55:45Z

Lesley,

Try the Hugh Wallis site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis... but change the Horfield batch number prefix from M to C after entering the surname in the appropriate box of course!

Then put the HW site in your favourites.

Regards

O

Re: George LOVELL b abt 1750 Awre? > Sussex

Ovener — 2009-10-20 14:24:20Z

Anne,

You'll find a couple of dozen Lovells in the Awre with Blakeney batch of info. extracted from church records http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis... do not forget to put it in your favourites.

Regards

O

Re: Death record

Ovener — 2009-10-21 18:46:41Z

Wendy,

SOM? GLS?

Check the Vol number at freebmd for whereabouts of Bedminster Reg. Dist.

You will find the parish locator prog useful and its database contains the Chapman County code. Go to http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parlocdl.html

Regards

O

Re: Death record

Ovener — 2009-10-21 12:09:16Z

Wendy,

Death cert's, as you've been told give very little useful information and even the cause of death is not always very good.

As Joseph's death was registered in the Reg. Dist. of Bedminster which spans the SOM/GLS border, I suggest you try SOM and if you're very lucky, a family member there might know more.

Regards

O

Re: George LOVELL b abt 1750 Awre? > Sussex

Ovener — 2009-10-20 14:47:57Z

Anne,

P.S.

The Mormon leaders teach that the spirits of people who have died cannot enter the celestial kingdom of heaven until a Mormon is baptized for them by proxy-i.e. a living person is immersed on behalf of the dead person.

When a batch entry extracted from church records is identified by an LDS member as being one of his/her ancestors, the member submits the data to the Temple in Salt Lake City and in accordance with LDS ordinances the proxy baptism is carried out.

The entry in the batch is then deleted.

Alas, the foregoing does not mean that all submitted entries in the IGI were once in an extracted batch so submitted entries must be disregarded. The LDS give no provenance of submitted entries.

The Source Call number given with extracted entries is the LDS film of the church records which may be hired and searched at an LDS FHC in order to verify, or otherwise, the submitted data.

Regards

O

Re: George LOVELL b abt 1750 Awre? > Sussex

sonia1864 — 2009-10-20 14:29:52Z

Glos Record Office online index to wills etc:

http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=17142

Has a few LOVELLs from Awre and Blakeney.

Good luck
Sonia