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Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers

john_vw  (View posts) Posted: 11 Aug 2002 7:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Mary Fathers
Died September 1900
Buchers Daughter from Woodford Halse, Northhampton.
Her Father, William Fathers & Mother Caroline.
Her youngest brother was Reeve.

Any more information you could give would be very welcome.

Re: Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers

richardvf1  (View posts) Posted: 11 Aug 2002 11:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
This is the 1881 census
Dwelling: 16 3rd St
Census Place: Woodford Cum Membris, Northampton, England
Source: FHL Film 1341375 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1558 Folio 14 Page 11
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William FATHERS M 46 M Woodford, Northampton, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Butcher
Caroline FATHERS M 45 F Tysoe, Warwick, England
Rel: Wife
Emily FATHERS U 17 F Woodford, Northampton, England
Rel: Daug
Occ: Butchers Boy
Mary FATHERS U 14 F Woodford, Northampton, England
Rel: Daug
Occ: Scholar
William Henry FATHERS U 10 M Woodford, Northampton, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Joseph Edw. FATHERS U 8 M Woodford, Northampton, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Henrietta FATHERS U 6 F Woodford, Northampton, England
Rel: Daug
Occ: Scholar
Reeve FATHERS U 2 M Woodford, Northampton, England
Rel: Son

Re: Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers - Roundhill Farm on High St Woodford cum Membris

dhowsie172  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2003 8:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fathers, Tarver, Tew, Hunt, Marriott, Settle, Sewell, Howes
The Fathers family lived at Roundhill Farm on High St throughout the 19th century and for more than half of the 20th. By tradition they were graziers and butchers in the old rural way of butchers raising and slaughtering their own meat, and were typical of many such farming families in the parish over the same period. Reeve Fathers who was born in 1878 and died in 1963 is remembered in St. Marys Church as a churchwarden. Indeed there is a beautiful carved tabled near the font given in his memory. But the span of his particular life in this particular family gives an interesting window into the kind of people who lived throughout the coming of the railway and two World Wars.

William Fathers was the butcher at Roundhill Farm when his son Reeve was born in 1878, the youngest child of the eight who survived infancy. The eldest, Harriet was already 19 when Reeve was born, and the other brothers and sisters who greeted his arrival were Emily, Polly, Caroline, William, Joseph and Henrietta.

Williams wife was Caroline Tarver who came from the Home Farm at Compton Winyates, but his own forebears were local. One of Williams great grandmothers was a Tew (there were Tews at Woodford |Manor and at Tew's Farm on High St) who had married a Seaton from Ivy House Farm in Farndon.

Caroline Fathers - Reeves mother was a kind and patient lady who in later years found herself called on to help with a particular local problem. The local landowner Caroline Hunt became rather eccentric and difficult in her declining years but would always respond to Mrs Fathers' gentle presence. So Caroline spent many hours with the old lady at her home on Parsons St., a short step away from Roundhill Farm.

At one time Roundhill Farm had been associated with the Round Hill fields to the east of the Eydon Rd, still known as Bottom, Middle and Upper Round Hill. They lie next to the lane known as Roundhill Rd which runs from Eydon Rd to the top of Woodford Hill one of the original roads laid out at the time of the Woodford enclosure in 1759. But Williams grazing land was glebe land on the upper part of Foxhill.

Reeve attended the Church School but when lessons were over he liked to visit William and Anna Marriott who lived at the original White Hart, a small thatched ale house on the site of the Memorial Centre. Mrs Marriott was the beer seller while her husband was one of the village carriers, and it was from him that Reeve Fathers developed at an early age a keen interest in the kind of general dealing that carriers often did in addition to their purchasing for others.

At home Reeve helped with the animals and the butchery. As the youngest he was something of a favourite with the grandparents who still lived at the farm after William had taken over the business. He was also very close to his eldest sister Harriet. Reeve expanded his knowledge of the butchery trade by working for a time with a butcher in Northampton. In 1907 Reeve became the tenant of Dairy Farm to the west of Eydon Rd.

One of Reeve's sisters was married to William Settle, paymaster to the navvies. After four years as tenant of Dairy Farm Reeve was joined his sister Harriet who came to be his housekeeper and also by 13 year old Doris seventh child of his sister Caroline. Reeve's sister Caroline as a girl had worked as a maid for the Revd. Harry Minchin who was vicar of Woodford from 1867 to 1884. When Mr. Minchin moved on Caroline went with them eventually settling and marrying in Essex. Meanwhile Reeve's eldest sister Harriet now his housekeeper had only recently returned to England from Peru. She married an engineer who was a consultant to the owners of the many large sugar plantations. Sadly he contracted cancer of the tongue. When he died she returned to England. There was at this time a local singing group called the Christy Minstel Band that entertained around the villages and Reeve was a member (along with my grandfather Frederick Sewell)!!!!

Early in 1915 Reeve now aged 37 and still a batchelor went off to war he was wounded and sent home to hospital near Felixstowe. He was sent to Saffron Walden where he met and fell in love with the daughter of a neighbouring farmer, a young lady called Florence Mary Graves. Reeve married Florence in 1921 when he was 43 and she was 28. They settled back at Dairy Farm and had two children Reeve after his father and Gwen.

After his family and farm Reeve's main love was the Church where he sang as a choir boy and served as Churchwarden. His name is engraved on one of the church bells.

Reeve inherited Roundhill Farm when his brother William died in 1945, at this time Gwen was serving in the Land Army. harriet died at Roundhill Farm in 1955 aged 96, and Reeve died there in 1963 aged 84. Both had been born eldest and youngest - in the house where they died. Gwen returned there in 1964, and her mother Florence died there in 1969. Gwen and Reeve (her brother) sold Roundhill Farm in 1978 and Reeve junior died the following year.

The above taken from "The Story of Woodford cum Membris"
by Brenda Courtie.

I hope you find the above interesting I know I like to learn of anything at all about the way my forebears lived. My interest in Woodford Halse is that my Grandfathers ancestors were the Blacksmiths (Sewell) and my Great Grandfather kept The Gorse Hotel. Small world eh!

With kind regards.

Denise Howes in Middleton Cheney, near Banbury, Oxon.

Re: Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers

Jane Pattison  (View posts) Posted: 14 Sep 2003 4:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Denise,

Thank you for your post, it was very interesting.
Mary Fathers was my great grandmother, she was born on 17th June 1866 to William and Caroline Fathers. She married my great grandfather Thomas Henry Cooper (A Railway Engine Driver) on October 23rd 1899 at Woodford. On the 15th August 1900 she gave birth to my grandfather Cecil, unfortunately she died 19 days later.
My grandfather never knew she was his mother until the 1950's.
I myself didn't know about Mary until 2000, their for don't know anything much about the family.

Yours,
Jane

Re: Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers

dhowsie172  (View posts) Posted: 17 Sep 2003 1:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,

Thank you for your reply, I am pleased that you found the article interesting, if you are like me you want to know everything??? I have been trying to get an email address for Brenda Courtie who wrote The History of Woodford but I cant find it at the moment. If you like I will try and photocopy bits of the book for you and I could post it to you. Brenda was the Vicar's wife but I know they have now left Woodford.

Hear from you soon.

Denise
Middleton Cheney,
Banbury, Oxon.

Re: Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers

dhowsie172  (View posts) Posted: 17 Sep 2003 1:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
It's me again,

I suppose you do know that Woodford Halse is in Northamptonshire and not Warwickshire?

Denise

Re: Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers - Roundhill Farm on High St Woodford cum Membris

mec37  (View posts) Posted: 19 May 2006 10:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Reading this message I believe we are probably related as my great grandmother, Mary Sewell was raised in Woodford Halse. Please contact mec37@hotmail.co.uk

Re: Looking For More Infromation on Mary Fathers

david fathers  (View posts) Posted: 23 Oct 2009 9:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fathers Hickman Goldby
I'm pretty certain I have William - Mary's father - born in 1833 to Thomas Fathers a butcher in Woodford Halse b 1806. Thomas' brother is John Fathers (my link) b 1797 WH to John Fathers who married Sarah Seaton in 1796 at WH

William had a brother Reeve born in 1843 etc

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