General - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: RATT family > to New Zealand in 1842

traceeleigh1 — 2009-09-29 01:48:09Z

HI THERE, MY NAME IS TRACEY (HARPER) MY GREAT GRAND MOTHER IS WAS SARAH WRATT, SHE MARRIED JAMES HARPER, IN BRIGHTWATER IN NELSON, THEY MOVED TO BULLS WHERE THEY DIED. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP IN CONTACT WITH YOU. I HAVE A PHOTO OF EARNEST WITH SOME OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IE JESSIE,HOWARD, GRACE, ARTHUR(MY GRANDFATHER).

Re: Williams, Springthorpe & Bullimore's of Exton

keiranwilliams13 — 2009-09-28 21:26:08Z

Thank you very much Peggysullivan114! :)

Re: Williams, Springthorpe & Bullimore's of Exton

peggysullivan114 — 2009-09-28 20:28:42Z

John Springthorpe b. 1833

1841 census
William Springthorpe 40
Mary 45
Thomas 14
William 12
John 8
living Whitwell Oakham Rutland

1861 census
Mary Springthorpe wid: 66 b. Exton
John son 28 b. Whitwell
Sarah son's wife 27 b. Exton
Thomas W.3 b. Whitwell
Maria 8 mths "

living Whitwell Oakham

1891 census
James Bullimore 32 Exton
Maria Bullimore 31 Whitwell
Mary Alice Williams 8 Greetham
Ellin Williams "
Thomas Williams 4 "
Kate Williams 3 "
Edith Bullimore 10 mths Exton

On the 1901 census Thomas has changed his name to Bullimore also

Maria married Henry Williams Sep 1882 Oakham 7a 489

and James Bullimore Mar 1890 Oakham 7a 365

Williams, Springthorpe & Bullimore's of Exton

keiranwilliams13 — 2009-09-27 02:15:15Z

Good afternoon from Australia,

I am interested in any information on the Springthorpe family of Exton, specifically John Springthorpe B 1883, his daughter Maria B 1860 who married both Henry Williams B 1859 and James Bullimore, her son from her first marriage Thomas Williams B 1886.

If you have any information or if you have any questions I may be able to assist.

Kind regards

Keiran Williams

Hacks of Rutland England.

glennjoy_1 — 2009-09-23 12:13:12Z

Hi. My name is Glenn Woods from Australia and I am researching my Hack family. I have now found several Hack family members that hail from the Rutland area of England.
I have:
Richard Hack b 1703 Rutland m Mary Mason.
John Hack b 1652 Rutland m Alice Willow

If anyone has the family with these naes in it, Would you please contact me to exchange information. Thank you, Glenn

Re: Reeve from Wing, Rutland

julianreeve1 — 2009-08-15 20:03:48Z

Hi Tim,
I have been looking at records at the Leicestershire Records Office. Unless it is a mistake Zillah Seaton is spelt (Scaton) in the wing parish church records. Thomas Reeve is the son of William Reeve & Elizabeth Reeve (nee
Strickland) Banns 10/04 1788. The two children are Thomas baptized 28/02/1789 & Alice baptized 14/07/1799. William
is buried at Wing on the 24/12/1810.

Re: WW1 soldiers from Rutland > Needham

golesworthy — 2009-06-24 04:17:18Z

Hiya
Needham's of Hambleton.
there are none listed amongst the dead, just 3 Needhams, all from Oakham. if you want more info on these i can email it to you.
just checked the village roll of honour too and noe are listed either.
None listed in the Special Constables section either.
now I've had a look at all the major sections of the book, i find not ref to needham/ hambleton. sorry.
anything else i can look up then do let me know
nikki

Re: WW1 soldiers from Rutland > Needham

S_Swailes — 2009-06-24 04:17:01Z

Hi, thanks for this note. Would be grateful if you could check whether there are any references in the book to Needham of Hambleton.

my email is s.swailes@btinternet.com

thanks and regards

Re: WW1 soldiers from Rutland > Thorpe

golesworthy — 2009-06-24 04:16:24Z

Hi Tony
there are 18 thorpes listed for Uppingham. 15 on the roll of honour (survivors) and 3 listed as having died.
if you want to email me directly using golesworthy and then adding @hotmail.com then i can email you the relevant files. the roll of honour ones are interesting and personal.
nik

Re: WW1 soldiers from Rutland > Thorpe

tonypaine — 2009-06-24 04:16:04Z

Hi Nikki,
Were there any Thorpes from Uppingham mentioned in the book

Tony Paine

Re: WW1 soldiers from Rutland

S_Swailes — 2009-06-21 20:15:34Z

Thanks Nikki, I appreciate your help. Best wishes.

Re: Garfoot - Greetham, Rutland

HelenNewbold53 — 2009-06-07 18:25:57Z

Dear Ray

Thank you for getting back to me, and I appreciate the information that you have given me. I seem to have found a John Holmes (1715) and Ann being the parents of Mary Holmes but yet to verify this. co-incidentally Francis Garfoot went on to marry a Catherine Broadhead of Loughborough (where I live) and her maiden name was Holmes

Kind regards Helen

Re: Garfoot - Greetham, Rutland

HelenNewbold53 — 2009-06-07 18:25:14Z

Apologies for not getting back to you sooner and thanking you for the information you kindly sent. I have had Ray Garfoot reply and if you take a look at that he has helped also.

Kind regards

Helen

Garfoot - Greetham, Rutland

HelenNewbold53 — 2009-06-07 18:24:30Z

I am a descendant of Francis Garfoot of Greetham, who gives his father's name as Charles on his marriage certificate. My Francis was born in circa 1810, and went on to run a Carrier business between Ibstock and Loughborough on a thursday, and Ibstock and Ashby De La Zouch on a Saturday according the the Leicestershire records. Any assistance would be appreciated as it would appear Rutland records are a little sparse.

Regards Helen

Re: Crowsons from Duddington 1700s

shelagh04 — 2009-06-07 18:23:39Z

the second entry is my grt, grt, great grandfather who went to live with his son in Blatherwycke and my great grandmother Ruth. I am sure the other Aaron is related as they spread around the rutland area and further. Are you related to the Crowsons? I haven't managed to find out who was Aaron's father who would have been born in the 1700's

Re: Crowson burials in Duddington

crusoe123 — 2009-06-07 18:23:08Z

Two burials which you probably already have.

Parish Records Collection - burial
First name(s): Aaron
Last name: CROWSON
Date of burial: 1 Nov 1903
Age at death: 65
Calculated year of birth: 1838
Place of burial: Duddington
Dedication: St Mary

County: Northamptonshire
Parish Records Collection – burial
First name(s): Aaron
Last name: CROWSON
Date of burial: 4 Apr 1882
Age at death: 82
Calculated year of birth: 1800
Place of burial: Blatherwycke
Dedication:Holy Trinity
County: Northamptonshire
Notes:
Blatherwycke Holy Trinity:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage: 1813 - 1900
Number of entries: 350

Re: Crowsons from Duddington 1700s

shelagh04 — 2009-06-07 18:22:25Z

Sorry, I posted it a while back and forgot what was said. But looking for anyone related to Aaron Crowson who was born in Duddington around 1800. Would love to trace any Crowsons or who knows any Crowson related to Aaron in the 1700s

Crowsons from Duddington

shelagh04 — 2009-06-07 18:21:31Z

from Duddington

Charles MEES, born 1822, Biggleswade

2009-01-21 00:13:56Z

my great-g-g-grandfather was Charles Mees, born 1822, Biggleswade. His father was William, and William's father was Samuel Mees, also spelled Mayes. Samuel was born around 1720, Bedfordshire, St.Paul. Samuel married 4 times: 1.Elizabeth, 2. Francis Hill(widow)(m.17-02-1780),3.Susannah Smart (m. 27-9-1796), 4.Elizabeth Charles of Wooton (m. 03-07-1803).

Re: Neal - Brown marriage

caroline1665 — 2008-11-23 20:01:17Z

I think you may be right and me wrong about my William Brown. Sorry! I ordered up the birth cert for 'my' Wm born 1866, and his father was Wiliam Brown too, and his mother Martha Adcock, both of Rutland. I found them on the 1881 census with Wm senior born about 1829, a railway labourer, with another son Arthur. My William was listed as Willie- hence my confusion! Is this father your William Fiddler Brown?
Thanks

Re: Neal - Brown marriage

caroline1665 — 2008-10-13 15:33:28Z

1901 - Wiiliam Brown and Elizabeth in Battersea - definitely my family

1891 - William and Elizabeth together in Oakham, no children yet - tallies dates and birthplaces, and his ocupation as railway platelayer tallies with family stories of him movign to London buildign the railway.

1881 William 17 yrs living with mum Violet and Grandfather Samuel Brown in John St Oakham ( My William named a daughter Violet and the address in Jihn St is in teh same census disrtict and the 1891 Oakham address

1871. William age 7 with Mum Violet, Grandfather Samuel and Grandmother Sarah at same address in Oakham.

Also, in 1841, Samuel was living with Sarah Piser ( Pizer) and married her later. It looks as if Violet was actually her child by a previous marriage but I am stuck a bit there at the moment.

All these Williams and Violet were born in Oakham

Re: Neal - Brown marriage

caroline1665 — 2008-10-13 15:32:18Z

I don't think that is the link, as I have this week located William as the son of Violet Brown living at John Street in Oakham in the 1881 and 1871 census. The dates and locations match, and the fact that his mother's name was Violet, which was later one of hiis daughter's names would seem to tally.

Re: Garfoot - Greetham, Rutland

RayGarfoot — 2009-03-18 00:20:17Z

We have a Garfoot family tree which includes your ancestors Francis and his parents Charles and Mary. I am descended from Charles's brother William (born 1761). Charles's parents were John Garfoot (1731-1813) and Mary Holmes (1738-1812). They were married at Ryhall, Lincs, on 12th December 1755, so I presume Mary comes from there. John and Mary lived in Market Overton, Rutland, but that is as far as we can go back at the moment.

Re: Greetham Parish Records - Garfoot

HelenNewbold53 — 2008-12-12 20:39:48Z

Im a descendant of a francis Garfoot who gives his
birthplace as Greetham on the yearly census. His father was Charles Garfoot and I can verify this on Francis's marriage certificate which I have. Any assistance would be appreciated. His birthdate is given as 1811. Thankyou Helen Newbold

WW1 soldiers from Rutland

golesworthy — 2009-01-19 13:34:22Z

i recently via all the coverage for the end of WW1 came across a book published by Rutland in about 1920 which gave information about the people involved in various ways with the war. There's info on each village listing soldiers who fought and died, (found Great uncle -ernest alphonso liquorish listed and hadn't known he'd been involved at all) with a write up(presumably supplied by the family) and a photo. there's also a listing of the village members who fought and returned. (no further info on them tho). Later in the book is info on special constables, reserves, womens roles and heaps more if anyone wants me to check anything i spent part of the xmas hols scanning the whole book in before returning the original to Granny. Currently there are copies of the book on sale on amazon for a mere £200...
Nikki

Re: ROLLINS of MARHOLM

denthemen50 — 2009-03-10 21:22:33Z

I know thisa bit out of date ButMarholm is not in Rutland it is in the old Soke of Peterborough of which there four parishes together look at Castor and Ailesworth on Google Rollins and Rawlings still common in lower Nene valley around Peterborough and the old Huntingdonshire

Re: Ellingworth in Rutland

jayneebradley — 2008-08-17 13:32:51Z

Could this be them ?

I know the marriage is not in Rutland BUT is not to far away if you check on an map ??

Thomas Ellingworth Marriages:

Spouse: Mary Whyman Family
Marriage: 08 AUG 1837 Rippingale, Lincoln, England

Re: Lookup of Parish Records request for Exton, Rutland

lcox41 — 2008-11-01 15:34:12Z

I was interested to find your message re Thomas Abel Barratt as I have been researching Barratt s from Exton for a while .... what records had you found for Thomas Abel Barratt. I haven't come across his baptism in the Exton parish records.
Thank you

Re: CODGBROOK / SCOTCHBROOK Families

GillianGrafton — 2008-11-03 06:49:33Z

Hi Derek,
My direct line in the Scotchbrook family appear to be: Richard Codgebrook 1676, John Codgebrook 1712, John Scotchbrook 1747, John 1768, William 1815 and Daniel 1858.

My question is, do you have any information on the parents of William's wife Elizabeth Joyce? (b.1819, Spalding, Lincs)
She is my 3xgrandmother and I cannot find anything online. As I live in Arizona it is is difficult for me to search elsewhere. I look forward to your reply, best, Gillian.

Re: Greetham Parish Records - Garfoot

lcsnorton — 2008-12-13 01:31:31Z

I've looked through what I have. I don't have a Francis b.1811 with father Charles, but I do have one who was born 1809 with father Charles & mother Mary Spinnell. This Francis marries Emily Berridge in Greetham. Is that yours? I also have a second marriage for him to Catherine Broadhurst.
Let me know at louise.norton@earthlink.net, I have his grandparents.

Louise

Florence Weightman 1886 - ? Oakham, Leicester

andrea17281 — 2008-09-09 08:59:09Z

I am trying to find information for the above lady, she was born at Oasby Mill, Nr Grantham, and later moved to Oakham, I don't think she was ever married, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Any information would be really good.

Uppingham GLENHAM LEATON / SEATON REDGATEcirca1841

peter_colmer — 2008-12-05 00:02:05Z

I am trying to find the link between the GLENHAM / GLINHAM and LEATON /SEATON families that were in Uppingham on the 1841 census as the surnames have carried through a couple of generations on from the marriage of an EMMA LEATON (or SEATON) to a Henry BAGGE. The surname REDGATE also carried through at the same time. I suspect that they might be mother or grandmother surnames but I cannot establish this yet and would very much like to. Thank you.

Re: Manners Family

RickTurner527 — 2008-08-16 03:35:53Z

Hello, I'm from BC too. Trying to find a Joseph Manners from Ontario who had brothers John and William,parents Peter and Jane. Contact me if interested in exchanging info

the bell oakham

moiracurtis75 — 2009-03-19 19:34:04Z

heya, wondering if anyone remembers the bell inn, I believe my grandparents Frank and Ethel kettle used to run it

Marriage into Duke of Rutlands family - Bland 1834

lweston191 — 2008-10-13 15:29:54Z

I'm researching my family tree - and the line of bland, mainly from Rutland, Empingham. I have been informed that one of the blands married into the Duke of Rutlands family in 1834 - he was a surgeon.

Can anyway help? I seem to have hit a brick wall and can't find anything out!

Re: Hales Family of Liddington

aewilli1 — 2008-12-02 15:19:20Z

HI Mike
Can I please ask your source of Lyddington On line Parish records, I am trying to trace my Lyddington Fancourts and have been unable to find an online source, your advice would be gratefully received.
Amy

Re: Garfoot - Greetham, Rutland

ELLinSpain — 2008-12-13 11:33:48Z

Hello

found

FRANCIS GARFOOT
Baptised 03 SEP 1809 in Greetham, Rutland
Parents Charles & Mary

same place, same named parents - siblings?

CHARLES GARFOOT
05 APR 1801 Greetham, Rutland

HESTHER GARFOOT
05 APR 1801 Greetham, Rutland

obviously, would need checking

Re: Ellingworth in Rutland

ELLinSpain — 2008-09-07 20:31:42Z

hello again

same named parents (Andrew & Elizabeth) + same place so almost certainly other children

Baptism's

ELIZABETH ELLINGWORTH
28 MAR 1798 Preston, Rutland, England

SETH ELLINGWORTH
04 DEC 1796 Preston, Rutland, England

ANN ELLINGWORTH
17 MAY 1795 Preston, Rutland

leads to

Andrew Ellingworth
married
Elizabeth Popill
15th Jan 1795 in Wing, Rutland

leads to

Elizabeth Popple
baptised 10th October 1772 in Wing
Parents John & Elizabeth Popple

please do remember that the further you go back, the worse the spelling so, use phoenic!

Re: Ellingworth in Rutland

ELLinSpain — 2008-08-30 10:00:41Z

Hello

looks promising

THOMAS ELLINGWORTH
Baptised 9th DEC 1804 Preston, Rutland
Parents Andrew & Elizabeth

Re: Florence Weightman 1886 -

ELLinSpain — 2008-09-10 10:40:06Z

hello

think this looks good:

1891
William B Weightman 44 born: Oasby Haydor a Miller & Maltser
Rose Weightman 40 born Walsall, Staffs
children
George W Weightman 16 born: Oasby Haydor
William B Weightman 13 born: Oasby Haydor
Dora G Weightman 11 born: Oasby Haydor
Florence R Weightman 9 born: Oasby Haydor, Lincolnshire
Kate Weightman 7 born: Oasby Haydor
Rose Weightman 5 born: Oasby Haydor
Walter G Weightman 3 born: Oasby Haydor
Governess
Helen Buck 20 born Boston, Lincs
+ Servants
in The Mill, Heydour, Lincs

1901
William Boaler Weightman 54 born: Oasby Haydor a Miller & Maltser
Rose Weightman 40 born Walsall, Staffs
children
George Weightman 26 born: Oasby Haydor
Dora Grace Weightman 21 born: Oasby Haydor
Florence Rosa Weightman 19 born: Oasby Haydor
Kate Weightman 17 born: Oasby Haydor
+ various employees
in Farm House, Haydon, Lincs

Re: Crowsons

crusoe123 — 2009-05-07 19:29:10Z

Your message is vague, are you looking for anyone in particular.

Re: ROUSE; Bakers and Millers of 19th C. Market Overton

linpanisset — 2008-10-30 04:02:54Z

Hi,
I have Mary Rouse, born 1786 Stamford, parents Samuel Rouse and Elizabeth Frances Stevenson. I'm not sure where they married - possibly Stamford. Perhaps there is a connection to your Market Overton family?

Re: Greetham Parish Records

pollybegy — 2008-10-02 16:48:42Z

I dont konw if it is any help but my Brother & Sister in law own Garfoot Cottage in Greetham.

Re: Ellingworth in Rutland

choufleurfroggie — 2008-09-07 16:37:55Z

Thanks very much - do you have any other info about his family? He is my great great great great grandfather!

Re: Ellingworth in Rutland

choufleur — 2008-08-29 16:11:08Z

I will have to check it out but I think it is unlikely - thank you though!

Ellingworth in Rutland

choufleur — 2008-08-04 08:36:27Z

Hi,
I am trying to find out more about the Ellingworth family, many of which lived in Uppingham / Oakham and surrounding area. The furthest I have got is with Thomas Ellingworth, b 1805 in Preston (Rutland) and married Mary (surname unknown), amd had 9 children, Charles, Emma, Seth, Eliza, Frances, George, Thomas, Elizabeth and Hannah, all born bet 1826-44.
There are still Ellingworths in Rutland so hopefully there is some information about!

Sarah STANGER

Rozzles — 2008-08-17 03:43:48Z

Sarah - born in Seaton, Rutland 1851. Died 1884 possibly in Uppingham, Rutland.
Married Edward SMEETON 1873.
Trying to find out if she had children - I know of Elizabeth, possibly 2 others. What did she die from?
Can anyone help please. Best wishes.Rozzles

Re: Neal - Brown marriage

tonywallace1 — 2008-09-26 18:24:15Z

I'm not sure looking at the 1901 census on Ancestry the William Brown who has the mum Violet is living in Nottingham, whereas the other William Brown is living in Battersea, London in 1901 (your William Brown?), so I think your William cann't be the son of Violet.

On 1891 the William son of Violet is also in Nottingham.

On 1891 census in Oakham there is a William Brown married to Elizabeth A. (on the transcribe on ancestry they have the wrong age for him but if you look at image is 24 in 1891.

What do you think?

I'm a bit busy now but will try to confirm info later.

Re: Neal - Brown marriage

tonywallace1 — 2008-10-13 15:31:35Z

I believe your William Brown was the son of William Royce Brown born in Oakham, Rutland in 1828, also called Fiddler Brown (he was in the Crimean war and we have his 2 medals). My relative was Arthur brown, son of William Royce Brown and brother to your William. Arthur is my great grandad.

William Royce Brown parents were John and Susanna. John comes from Burley-on-the Hill, just outside Oakham and I believe his parents were William Brown and Mary Glenford.

Re: Neal - Brown marriage

tonywallace1 — 2009-01-04 21:43:21Z

Yes, the father is William Royce Brown (Fiddler Brown). He was in the Crimean war, I managed by some luck last year to get his 2 medals. He is buried in Oakham cemetary and had a military funeral through Oakham. I have a newspaper transcript of funeral and copy of a photo I got from others on this thread. I might try to see if there is any further info on him at PRO at Kew. I think your William was the only son of William Royce Brown to leave Rutland to go to London.