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Re: HAINES family of Christian Malford, Chippenham, Calne

charlescoates953 — 2009-11-20 14:22:14Z

my ggg grand father's lady friend was a Sarah Haines of Christian Malford. It would be very interesting to know more. This is written in Kilvert's Diary
many thank peter coates

Re: bastardy bonds/orders for the parish of wanborough

tonyrima1 — 2009-11-18 15:19:14Z

I hope you are still a member of Ancestry! There is a Mary born to Angel & Betty Whale at Wanborough 28/10/1792. Also Mark 14/12/1794 and David 3/3/1799 ( buried 19/1/1801). Angel Whale of Highway married Elizabeth Painter OTP at Wanborough on 13/8/1792 by Licence. Hope this helps,

Tony

Re: Wiltshire Connection

2009-11-16 14:17:30Z

Appreciate your message. Will have to take some time to sort it all out. Assume that you have read Judge Grubb's account of the family and his travels around the world, so probably don't have anything new to add at this time.

Thabks, Tom

Re: Wiltshire Connection - GRUBB family

elainerowland67 — 2009-11-16 14:17:05Z

Hello, Thomas,
I have studied the Grubb family for years. The Wiltshire, Cornwall, and Buckingham Cos. families were of the same line. The Irish family came from the Cornwall family. Henry Grubb who came on the Kent in 1677 with John Grubb was not John's brother but he was a relative. John Grubb was an Atty and an advisor to William Penn in 1675 then John Grubb came to NJ and went immediately to Pennsylvania and Delaware and purchased lands from the Swedes, then he went back to England and married Frances Vane and they came on the Kent in 1677. Frances Vane's mother, Frances, married 2nd, Edward Kekewich, not Frances, wife of John Grubb, but young Frances Grubb did receive an inheritance from Edward Kekewich who had no children. As far as I can tell from the records John Grubb is from either the Buckingham family or the Wiltshire family. I assume that Judge Grubb knew his family roots as Wiltshire, England, but I have no proof of that. I just know that he is not from the Cornwall family as supposed by so many people since Henry Grubb of Cornwall came on the the Kent in 1677. John Grubb was not a Quaker, and neither was Frances, but Henry was. John did open a tannery but that was good business as a tannery was needed and William Penn insisted that all people had a trade including the women, and that was good business. If you can dig out any further proof of the Buckingham Co. John Grubb as our John Grubb,who is the right age, or the Wiltshire family of John Grubb and let me know I would really appreciate it. Did you know that William Penn tied up the estate of John Grubb for 50 years? He did.
Elaine Rowland

Wiltshire Connection

2009-11-16 14:16:17Z

I have indexed Calne, Wiltshire registers from 1538 - 1837.
There is no baptism recorded for Thomas CLOUD(E).
There are the two marriages you mentioned for a Thomas CLOUD(E):-
19 August 1605 to Jane NYCHOLAS
12 December 1626 to Joane COATE.
If I can help further, just ask.

Wiltshire Connection

2009-11-16 14:14:36Z

Need more definitive info on Henry Grubb died 1581 Devises, Witlshire. What relation is he to Henry Grubb b 1581, d 1645. Son of Thomas and Agnes Jefferys Grubb. Possibly born in Truro, Cornwall.

Also information on Thomas Cloude b c1575 Caln, Wiltshire died prior to 1637. Married (1)Joane ---, (2) Jane Nycholas 19 Oct 1605

Re: CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

geoff_browne — 2009-11-14 11:17:37Z

Hi Shelagh,

Yep, they just did - very many thanks for that !!

Geoff.

Re: CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

eddie71 — 2009-11-13 22:09:59Z

Hi Geoff

sent you replys to last request but they have gone via the new ancestry request form and i am not sure if you have recived them

Shelagh

Re: FERRIS family from the Devizes area

lynbishop222 — 2009-11-13 09:20:01Z

Hello Jane, it looks like we are related!. My gtx3 Grandfather (John Ferris 1791) is the Father of your gtx3 Grandfather (William Ferris 1821).I have quite a bit of info if you need anything. Regards Lyn Bishop.

Re: CLARKE in Winterslow

lynj143 — 2009-11-10 10:52:00Z

Hi John
If you would like to contact me my address is
lynj@people.net.au
Thanking you in anticipation,
Lyn

Re: CLARKE in Winterslow

lynj143 — 2009-11-10 10:33:41Z

Hi JOhn
Would be very interested in your connection. Do my names of Solomon Clarke or Mary Judd sound familiar to your side of your tree? I do not know where or who Solomon came from as have been unable to locate any details further back apart from his and Mary's marriage. I know there are a few Clarkes in Winterslow cemetery as was fortunate to be able to visit there last year. I am in Australia.Looking forward to hearing from you.
Lyn

Re: CLARKE in Winterslow

johnclark177 — 2009-11-10 09:36:06Z

I also have Clarke descendants in Winterslow. If you would lke to make contact we can exchange info.

Re: CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

geoff_browne — 2009-11-09 09:39:27Z

Very much obliged.
GB.

Re: CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

eddie71 — 2009-11-08 15:48:39Z

Hi

Sorry i had a look at baptism records that i have, and i should have said they don't cover all area's
The first marriage is a bond listed below, if the marriage took place it lists the Marriage Details at the bottom. i hope they help in some way

Shelagh

Source : MLB (Bishops' Marriage Bonds)

Man's Surname : CROWTER
Man's Forename : EDWARD
Man's Age : -
Man's Occupation : -
Man's Place of Abode : TROWBRIDGE, WILTS
Man's Status : BAC
Man's Notes : -

Woman's Surname : NOYES
Woman's Forename : MARY
Woman's Age : -
Woman's Place of Abode : TROWBRIDGE, WILTS
Woman's Status : SP
Woman's Notes : -

Bondsman 1 : PLUMMER SAMUEL, TROWBRIDGE
Bondsman 2 : -

Marriage Details : TROWBRIDGE, OCT 12 1743

Re: CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

geoff_browne — 2009-11-08 15:47:37Z

Hi Shelagh,

Very grateful for that excellent lookup.

Did you happen to notice if there were any more details of the earlier marriage - was it another marriage bond or a parish marriage record and was there an actual date ?

Thanks also for the baptism lookup. What a shame she isn't there. She was definately confirmed in Downton, south of Salisbury, but not christened there either. I wonder if the cathedral baptism records are online anywhere.

Thanks again for your help,
Geoff.

Re: CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

eddie71 — 2009-11-08 15:43:21Z

Hi

me again just found Edwards first marriage he married Mary Noyer in 1743 thats 22 years between his marriages trying to do the maths if he was 20 or older when he got married to mary he woukd 48 to 50 when Sophia was born

Shelagh

Re: CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

eddie71 — 2009-11-08 15:38:56Z

Hi

Not found the baptism but did find the marriage bonds of Edward and Elizabeth thought you may like them just in case he is yours, he is a widow when he marries Elizabeth and a shopkeeper marriage date 7/9/1765

Marriage Bonds

Man's Surname : CROWTER
Man's Forename : EDWARD
Man's Occupation : SHOPKEEPER
Man's Place of Abode : TROWBRIDGE, WILTS
Man's Status : WID

Woman's Surname : LITTLE
Woman's Forename : ELIZABETH
Woman's Place of Abode : TROWBRIDGE, WILTS
Woman's Status : SP

Bondsman 1 : TYRRELL JAMES,CLOTHIER,TROWBRIDGE
Bondsman 2 : -

Marriage Details : SEP 7 1765

sHELAGH

CROWTER in Trowbridge - lookup please?

geoff_browne — 2009-11-07 17:48:40Z

I wonder if anyone would be so kind as to do a baptism lookup for a Sophia or Sofhia CROWTER (or CROUTER) in Mar 1771 in St.James, Trowbridge.

Her parents may have been Edward CROWTER and Elizabeth LITTLE, who are believed to have married in St.James, Trowbridge on 8 Sep 1765 (IGI).

Thanks,
Geoff Browne

Re: MOORE in Wiltshire

marionsteele1010 — 2009-11-06 16:29:01Z

Hello Helen

Interesting that you have the name of Moore in Chippenham, wiltshire. Some family information has just come to me about my Harry Burt who married Sarah Moore 23 October 1800. Harry Burt had two children in his previous marriage with Johannah Matthews, they were Elizabeth Burt born 10 August 1787 and Albin Burt born 24 Februsary 1793 both born in Chippenham Wiltshire, England. do any of these names appear on your family tree?

Marion from New Zealand

BEERE family of Colerne

2009-11-06 16:27:19Z

Searching for ancestors and descendants of George Beere and Matilda who lived in Colerne, Wiltshire, UK in the 1850's. Any help is appreciated.

Re: WHITE and GRANT - Worton in Potterne - and Anna Marias

eddie71 — 2009-11-06 16:21:43Z

hi

me again here is the marriage bonds for Jonathan with his age and his his wifes age

Source : MLB (Bishops' Marriage Bonds)

Man's Surname : WHITE
Man's Forename : JONATHAN
Man's Age : 21
Man's Occupation : MALSTER
Man's Place of Abode : AVEBURY, WILTS
Man's Status : -
Man's Notes : -

Woman's Surname : CROOK
Woman's Forename : RACHEL
Woman's Age : 21
Woman's Place of Abode : AVEBURY, WILTS
Woman's Status : -
Woman's Notes : -

Bondsman 1 : SIMS JOHN,TAILOR,MARDEN,WILTS
Bondsman 2 : -

Marriage Details : JAN 21 1759

Shelagh

Re: WHITE and GRANT - Worton in Potterne - and Anna Marias

eddie71 — 2009-11-06 16:20:49Z

hi

i found the marriage bonds for sarah white her bondsman was Jonathan White this was most likley her father

Source : MLB (Bishops' Marriage Bonds)

Man's Surname : GRANT
Man's Forename : GEORGE
Man's Age : -
Man's Occupation : VICTUALLER
Man's Place of Abode : POTTERNE(WORTON)
Man's Status : -
Man's Notes : -

Woman's Surname : WHITE
Woman's Forename : SARAH
Woman's Age : -
Woman's Place of Abode : POTTERNE(WORTON)
Woman's Status : SP
Woman's Notes : -

Bondsman 1 : WHITE JONATHAN,BAKER,WORTON,POTTERNE
Bondsman 2 : -

Marriage Details : OCT 15 1787

Shelagh

Annie Mary AMOR of Bromham

fingertips62 — 2009-11-06 16:19:14Z

Hi

Missing the death information of my gggf's 2nd wife, Annie Mary (or Mary Annie) Amor (nee Yates) who was born in Market Lavington in 1863

She married Andrew Amor (1845-1931) in 1895 and were living at Church Hill, Bromham in the 1911 Census

Andrew died 4 Aug 1931 aged 86 years at Loop Hill, Bromham

I'm very aware of the amount of Amors in the Bromham area and have visited several times but the death of Annie Mary still eludes me

The churchyard there was so overgrown in parts that it was impossible to get to some graves to read them

If anyone has info it would be much appreciated

Thanks

PS - Have loads of info on the Amors of Bromham - if anyone's a bit stuck, get in touch and I'll check my records

Re: FENNELL family from Bromham, Wiltshire

abdavis42 — 2009-11-04 00:05:06Z

Hi Dave
I wish that I have more information for you but I have no doubt that you are working with the same information that I have. i.e. no maternal ancestry lines.
Cheers
Tony

Re: FENNELL family from Bromham, Wiltshire

dvjredmond — 2009-11-01 18:03:19Z

Hi there,

My oldest Fennell ancestor is Richard Fennell born about 1615 who married Dorothy Lycester. Very interested in hearing from anyone who can help me take this line back further. Or who has any information about any of the maternal ancestry lines i.e from Rebecca Cheever, Ann Brinkworth, Sarah Edwards, Mary Bayley, Jane Amor, Hannah Ballard etc.

All the best,
Dave

Re: Beer family of Colerne

loki6340 — 2009-10-31 12:45:38Z

Monique, if you received further information, I would appreciate learning about it.

Your cousin, Larry
loki6340@rocketmail.com

YOUNG family in Fisherton Anger, Wilts.

shannon_calladine — 2009-10-28 14:17:03Z

My Young family members are in the 1881 census of Fisherton Anger and they are listed as: John (head), James (son) and Rose. (daughter) I would like to know more on where james may have gone and who their mother was. If you have any info please contact me.

thankyou

Wiltshire BMD updates 27 October 2009

mi2early — 2009-10-27 20:46:43Z

From http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/update.html -

27 October 2009

Births:
2,613 for Bishop Cannings, registers at History Centre (1853-1875)

Marriages:
20 for Bulford - Our Lady of Peace, registers at History Centre (1969-1973)
59 for Bulford - Our Lady of Victories RC , registers at History Centre (1939-1968)
428 for Bulford - St George Garrison Church C/E, registers at History Centre (1933-2002)
21 for Bulford - St George Garrison Church (otherwise than C/E), registers at History Centre (1986-2005)
21 for Larkhill- St Barbara Chapel RC , registers at History Centre (1969-1982)
28 for Larkhill - St Antony RC, registers at History Centre (1935-1967)
377 for Larkhill - St Alban the Martyr, registers at History Centre (1933-1996)
2 for Porton - Garrison Church, registers at History Centre (1943-1944)
130 for Boscombe, St Andrew, registers at History Centre (1837-1988)
199 for Cholderton, St Nicholas, registers at History Centre (1838-1999)
163 for Durrington, All Saints, registers at History Centre (1837-1906)
180 for Berwick, St James, registers at History Centre (1837-1994)
354 for Bishopstone, St John the Baptist, registers at History Centre (1837-1921)
115 for Ansty, St James, registers at History Centre (1838-2005)
267 for Berwick, St John, registers at History Centre (1838-1951)
20 for Alderton, registers at History Centre (1963-1988)
4 for Christian Malford, registers at History Centre (1942-1945)
1 for Cricklade, St Sampson, registers at History Centre (1949-1949)
194 for Marston Meysey, registers at History Centre (1838-2008)

~ ~ ~ ~

Many thanks to all responsible.

For further information about the Wiltshire BMD project, please visit the site.

Re: John ZEBEDEE born in Damerham , Wilts, circa 1825

muddybootz — 2009-10-26 18:35:52Z

It is cripplestyle near Cranborne, not Crisslestile. It is sometimes put into Daggons or Upper Holwell depending on the census or time. It is a small hamlet about 3 miles from Cranborne going towards Damerham.

Re: Thomas Weston

johnedgu — 2009-10-25 14:53:17Z

Hello!

I am descended from Michael Weston son of Ralph bapt in Bishops Cannings. The Ralph you mention is his brother. How please did you connect the Ralph who married in Wanborough to the Ralph bapt in Bishops Cannings? The son "Paul" is indicative: a number of Pauls were bapt at Bishops Cannings.

Many thanks

johnedgu

Re: BLACKFORD Family in Ashton Keynes, Swindon, Wiltshire

karendrury62 — 2009-10-22 11:47:04Z

Hi I am tracing my Blackford links to Swindon, Wiltshire. My ancestor Henry born abt 1792, to a G. Robert Blackford (known as Robert) and a Rebecca Wayt. He Had 5 brothers and 5 sisters. John 1778, Thomas 1787, William 1789, Richard 1798, male, Jane 1801,Dorothy 1795, Harriet 1792, Lucy 1785 and Rebecca 1780.
Father and Henry both butchers. Henry moved to Aust. Apparently Eobert was backsword champion of Southern counties. Was hoping our lines may link.

Karen
Australia

BURT and PARSONS families in West Dean

lcohn — 2009-10-20 13:25:19Z

Two sets of my ggg-grandparents were from West Dean, Wiltshire.

Thomas Parsons, son of Thomas Parsons and Elizabeth Sinnott, and Charlotte Paine, parents unknown, married in West Dean on 15 October 1791.

George Burt and Sarah Cheater, parents of both unknown, married in West Dean on 19 February 1787. I believe that George is the George Burt born in East Dean, Hampshire, in 1762 to George Burt and Mary Terry, but I can't confirm that.

Does anyone recognize these people?

Linda Cohn

PERREN, Colerne Wiltshire

Leppo27 — 2009-10-18 16:19:17Z

Iam looking for the Birthday of Ann Perren b:1840 Colerne Wiltshire Daughter of Araunah Perren c:15 Mar 1840.I have looked in all possible places.Many thanks to anyone who can answer my query.

Anita

Re: Redlynch Wilts

opsitsmeagain — 2009-10-18 09:52:05Z

Thanks for your info

Peter

Re: Redlynch Wilts

rnice87100 — 2009-10-17 18:13:00Z

St Mary's Church was only built in 1837. Before that, Downton Parish church registers would be the ones for you to look for.

Redlynch Wilts

opsitsmeagain — 2009-10-17 15:01:53Z

Wilts record office lists parish records starting 1838.
Can antone tell me if there are Bt's avaliable or any other resource for earlier years. I'm specifically looking for the period 1750ish.

Re: Welch/Herridge born Mere UK

Tialeanne — 2009-10-13 13:03:08Z

Hi
Thanks for your information, yes it is the same one, my line follows Mary Annn's marriage to William Welch and their first son William, who was born Welch, but married in the name Herridge, he later reverted back to Welch. Have been away for a few days and am just getting organised. Will be in touch later in the week with more details, how are you connected to Mary Ann and is there anything I might have that can help you.

Re: PLANK of Marden, Wiltshire

sg1923 — 2009-10-12 13:33:13Z

I have a Sarah Plank, daughter of william and Mary Plank. Sarah was born Marden Wiltshire about 1831. Other children of William and Mary were :- John, Maria, Ann, George,and William. William senior was born about 1797. Any connection?

PLANK of Marden, Wiltshire

garyplank3 — 2009-10-12 13:32:53Z

Is anyone tracing this family. Particularly George Plank born 1845/6 and died March 1893 at Henley-on-Thames.

Re: John FORD - Martin, Wilts

aysgarth — 2009-10-12 00:02:19Z

Mark

Thank you so much for this break-through :)

Helen

Re: John FORD - Martin, Wilts

markwareham21 — 2009-10-11 15:27:11Z

Hello there,

I have just discovered your post and can help on the Thaines. Your Harriet Thaine was a sister of an ancestor of mine, Mary Thaine. They (and a third sister Sarah) were children of Simon Thaine, a yeoman of Martin in Wiltshire. He left a will in 1828 and I have transcribed it and it will be on my website under 'Wareham family tree' by teh end of today (see under T for Thaine).

Website - http://www.southwilts.co.uk/site/My-family-history-by-Mark-W...

I have only just diecovered this Thaine line myself and am still gathering information but the Thaines seem to have been in Martin going back to at least 1690.

Regards

Mark

Re: John FORD - Martin, Wilts 1841/1851 census?

aysgarth_1 — 2009-10-11 15:26:37Z

Thanks for the quick reply Andy!
Looks like Harriet may have died before 1851. I had George as a probable brother from the later censuses, this confirms it.
The Thaine connection is a mystery at the moment

Re: John FORD - Martin, Wilts 1841/1851 census?

andyphillips180 — 2009-10-11 15:26:16Z

Hi Helen,

From the 1851 transcription:

MARTIN
19
FORD John 53 Farmer 76 Acres Martin , Wiltshire
FORD Sarah 24 Martin , Wiltshire
FORD George 22 Martin , Wiltshire
FORD Edmund 17 Martin , Wiltshire

Sorry, can't find Harriet or any THAINEs in Wlitshire.

Andy

John FORD - Martin, Wilts 1841/1851 census?

aysgarth — 2009-10-11 15:25:59Z

I have a newly discovered FORD family connection from Martin, Wiltshire UK. My GGGmother was a Jane FORD, daughter of John FORD and Harriet THAINE who were married in Martin on 20 Dec 1825 (IGI). Jane had two sisters - Sarah and Ann, and a brother Edmund. Unfortunatley that is as far as I have found - I do not know anything about John or Harriet's families.
From the 1861 census, John was born in 1798, widowed and a farmer with 81 acres living in East Martin.
If anyone has access to the 1851 or 1841 censuses I would really appreciate more information on this family.

Help!? DOBSON, BIGWOOD marriage in Melksham district

anthea_lanesborough — 2009-10-10 15:29:19Z

LOCAL LOOK UP HELP NEEDED PLEASE ** MELKSHAM DISTRICT RECORDS ** Margaret Rhoda I Dobson (b.1908 Melksham) married in 1928 (1st Quarter, Melksham district Vol: 5a, Page: 161) to Frederick John Bigwood. **** I would be very grateful if anyone could look up the marriage record and tell me the NAMES OF THEIR FATHERS and any other info available such as siblings etc.... I believe that Frederick's father was Frederick William John Bigwood who was my partners Gt-Gt-GF, but I do not have any ideas of who Margaret's parents were.
**** ANY HELP OF HINTS VERY GRATEFULLY RECEIVED - WILLING TO SHARE INFO TO THOSE ALSO RESEARCHING THE BIGWOOD / JEWER LINE.

Re: Welch/Herridge born Mere UK

marquets1 — 2009-10-10 15:28:19Z

I have a Mary Ann Herridge in my line. Looks like she was the first born (1830) of Joseph Herridge (b1803, Mere Wiltshire occ Weaver) and Martha Chinnock (b1802 Farrington dorset). Let me know if you need any more info.

WELCH, HERRIDGE born Mere UK

Tialeanne — 2009-10-10 15:28:03Z

information of William Welch birth certificate states Welch born in Mere Wiltshire 1853, Marriage certificate states Herridge He married a Sarah jane Horrell in Mere1876. His parents are William and Mary Ann Welch nee Herridge, they also produce 3 other children Ann born approx 1875, Elizabeth approx 1877 and Henry 1880. they Move to Hartlepool Durham in late 1890 and revertd back to Welch.

Wiltshire BMD updates 4 October 2009

mi2early — 2009-10-08 13:21:53Z

From http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/update.html -

4 October 2009

Marriages:
5 for Devizes, Upavon - RAF, registers at History Centre (1991-1999)
53 for Devizes, Marlborough - Christ Church, registers at History Centre (1911-1939)
21 for Devizes, Aldbourne - Methodist, registers at History Centre (1927-1940)
83 for Devizes, Devizes St Andrews, registers at History Centre (1925-1951)
15 for Devizes, Devizes - Maryport Street, registers at History Centre (1938-1949)
20 for Devizes, Devizes - Sheep Street, registers at History Centre (1925-1936)
51 for Devizes, Pewsey - Methodist, registers at History Centre (1910-1961)
35 for Devizes, Tidworth Methodist Hall, registers at History Centre (1937-1965)
7 for Devizes, Tidworth Presbyterian Church, registers at History Centre (1910-1937)
13 for Devizes, Great Bedwyn Weslayen Chapel, registers at History Centre (1919-1942)
93 for Devizes, Marlborough Congregational Church, registers at History Centre (1908-1959)
41 for Devizes, Devizes St Mary United Reform, registers at History Centre (1930-1948)
23 for Devizes, Littleton Pannel Wesleyan Chapel, registers at History Centre (1905-1951)
224 for Devizes, Tidworth Roman Catholic, registers at History Centre (1935-1960)
16 for Devizes, Netheravon Roman Catholic, registers at History Centre (1935-1964)

~ ~ ~ ~

Many thanks to all responsible.

For further information about the Wiltshire BMD project, please visit the site.

Re: John COLE and Maria LAWES, both C1775 from Chippenham,Wilts.

danmalson — 2009-10-06 08:09:36Z

Hi Shelagh,

Thanks for coming back to me. To be truthful I can't remember, this (family research) is something that I do from time to time or when a new 'lead' or new information comes up. I'm pretty sure via the IGI though. The Wiltshire FHS site also had several John Coles, one of which was born 1772 who seemed to fit.

I can't remember finding any evidence of Maria Lawes though, anywhere !

If John married at 28 (or 30/31 if 1772 is correct) it's possible that Maria was younger. The males seem to have a history of marrying women 10 or so years younger than they are !

Anyway, any info that you are able to offer is gratefully received.

All the best,

Dan

Re: John COLE and Maria LAWES, both C1775 from Chippenham,Wilts.

eddie71 — 2009-10-05 21:07:12Z

Hi

sorry i am not related to John and Maria I had a look at the bond records I have a few Wiltshire records some nonconformist but could not find a match for John or Maria births c 1775 this would make them age 28 when they married were did you get their birth dates from

Shelagh