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Re: Laracuente, Gonzalez - Ponce PR

RafaelMartinezII — 2009-11-27 08:05:00Z

Hi, I am Rafael Martinez Laracuente, Grandson of Juan Laracuente of Guaraguao, Ponce PR. The Eduviges Laracuente on this 1898 document is my great-grandfather. Do you have any more information you can share? I'm building a family tree, I may have some info on it that may be useful to you also, and I plan to add some more. I'll be traveling to Puerto Rico this December and hope to gather some more info. Thanks

Re: VECCHINI

jankyelcangri — 2009-11-27 03:47:42Z

hye i am from ponce puerto rico i am vecchini two my dad is manuel vecchini and his dad was manuel de jesus vecchini and other dad pablo vechhini he was from corsica i am just a child and want to know more about the vecchini's!and i am corsica related generation 3!!!

Re: Schuck, Morales, - Ponce, P.R.

heribertogoytia — 2009-11-26 17:50:23Z

Mi abuela era Maria Schuck Grau, nacida en Puerto Rico y casada en España con Juan Goytia Gordia, hermana de Pedro, Oscar, Enrique y Luisa. Pedro fue el fundador de los Bomberos en Ponce. Sus padres murieron en 1900 y 1901.
Tengo informacion de su vida en España, pero me gustaria tener informacion sobre la familia que quedo en Puerto Rico

Re: Del Toro roots

rafaelrene — 2009-11-25 02:37:58Z

No, Im sorry to say I dont. But Del Toro name is not common.Upon the arrival of the Spaniards in the new world the name originally was TORO, the Del Toro meant is where the family was from Toro, Espana.

Re: Del Toro roots

emiliaavalos81 — 2009-11-24 23:39:01Z

Hi, My husband's last name is Del Toro, he is from Jalisco and he is related somehow to a Daniel Del Toro Torres... do u know him?

Re: Perez Maymi

camaymi — 2009-11-24 08:10:48Z

my uncles name was sergio maymi and my fathers name is carmelo maymi their father was ramon maymi and their mother
was candida pereira my name is carmelo maymi jr

i belive we are related please let me know if i can help

Re: Couvertier - Naguabo, PR

vodylan — 2009-11-24 07:06:12Z

Estoy casada con Victor J. Couverthie hijo de Victor Manuel Couvertier Melendez de naguabo y nieto de Tomas Couvertie su tia se llama Andrea

Re: Perrera-help

rayt121 — 2009-11-24 06:40:43Z

I'm looking for anything BEHIND Nilda Perrera Bergeron. I have everything AFTER her but nothing from her past.

Thanks
Ray Russo

Re: Melvin/Melvie Perry, Pueblo Verde 11 Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, ca 1960

DonnyPerry56 — 2009-11-22 08:21:32Z

It is so good to hear from you. I would love to see the Perry photo album sometime.

I would like like Vernon's phone number if you can get it. I am going up that way at Christmas and wanted to see him.

What is your name and where do you live?

My parents are Colleen Taylor and Donald Clyde Perry. My grandfather was Lona (pronounced Lonnie)Ellis Perry. He was the son of Mahala Elizabeth Perry and James Irvin Stewart. Lona was illegitimate so had the last name of Perry. Mahala Elizabeth Perry was Alex Perry's sister. I have done huge amounts of research on the Perrys and have a couple of letters from 1878 sent to Alex Perry's father, Oliver Horace "Harris" Theodore Perry.

I am sorry about your father's passing.

your cousin,

Donny Perry in Dallas, Texas

Re: Melvin/Melvie Perry, Pueblo Verde 11 Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, ca 1960

buzzardfriends — 2009-11-22 06:21:11Z

i am ordis' youngest child. i also am interested in knowing more about my people. vernon lives in morrill kentucky at the old home place. not far down the road from where uncle george lived. i dont have his phone # at the moment but can get it. i'm sure he also would like to hear from you. wanita also lives close to us and is doing well. my dad, Ordis just passed away oct. 29 with lung cancer. i have inherited his photo album of the Perrys. i have lots of very old photos of my great grandpa Alex and his wife Mary and their children. i haven't had much time to really enjoy it but plan to. i found you by typing in their names. let me know if there is anything else i can help you with. so who is your mom and dad?

Re: Delgado/Camuy

aegis65 — 2009-11-22 03:07:52Z

HELLO MIGUEL , MY NAME IS JOHNNY ORTIZ OLIVERA I AM A DIRECT DECENDENT OF ANTONIO DELGADO PINO AND MARIA ANDREA TOLEDO . I WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE NOTES WITH YOU .
I AM USING A COUSINS ANCESTRY ACCOUNT BUT YOU CAN REACH ME AT JORTIOLI@YAHOO.COM
HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON
JOHNNY ORTIZ OLIVERA

Re: Melvin/Melvie Perry, Pueblo Verde 11 Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, ca 1960

DonnyPerry56 — 2009-11-21 00:45:19Z

So are you Juanita's or Ordis child? Do you know how I can get hold of Vernon. I found some info on the Perry's that I think he and you would be interested in.

You may contact me at DonnyPerry@aol.com

thanks!,

Donny

Re: Quirindongo - Ponce, PR

johnqu — 2009-11-20 18:30:14Z

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Genealogy

QUIRINDONGO 67 marker test
diaspora
yDNA results Kit 35383 Password P8840
QUIRINDONGO yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) the letter I, not the number one (1).
QUIRINDONGO / yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) 2a1 (P37.2+1) M26+1 defined by M170 (formerly I (eye) 1b1) - DUTCH
Haplotree Tests M161- M253- M284- M423- P19+

CORTES ……..... 25 marker test - IRISH
yDNA results Kit 41475 Password K9386

mtDNA
Both have different distinct Haplogroup AMERINDIAN “A”
1. Angela CADIZ Velazqurz mtDNA nine (9) PR matches in FTDNA database
HVR1 kit 36569 Password J2807 user id CBDRQ mitosearch mtDNA results
2. Carmen Arroyo Torres mtDNA sixty-five (65) PR matchcs in FTDNA database
HVR1 kit 44263 Password H6689lts user id 8AV7N mitosearch mtDNA results mtDNA database Haplogroup “A”

ANECDOTAL EPISODES in my life
Oral History has the Curacao Kirindongo / QUIRINDONGO family during the 1600s and 1700s involved somehow in selling fresh water from the town of Kirindongo to the slave trade, Willemstad and the general public. My father born 1888 told me the QUIRINDONGO surname was originally Amerindian for FRESH WATER. My aunt born 1898 said the surname was Dutch originally “KRINGLE DONKER or something like that”. Both insisted Kirindongo was written originally in Dutch with a non-Spanish “K” but I believe now they meant Dutch Papiamento. Both were only functionally literate with at most four (4) yrs? schooling. Also they and their siblings were European White phenotypes. Some were tall, some with light hazel or blue eyes. They said Alejandro 1841-1893 who my father knew personally was called EL HOLANDES because he was so White. All my father's siblings married darker Mestizo and Mulatto before and after going to NYC. They all seemed unaware of their Black ancestors only (2) generations removed. All ancestor mulatttos had died, it seems, before they were born with Eugenio QUIRINDONGO the last Mulatto phenoptype of that era who died circa 1885? My firstborn father was born 1888, as a Spanish citizen ten (10) yrs before the USA invasion takeover. In any case, they never talked about the barrio of Kirindongo, nor Governor Jan Doncker nor of any Black paternal ancestors. I only saw White QUIRINDONGO aunts and uncles growing up in NYC and all spoke of only White Dutch and Spanish ancestors linked to the surname in PR, Holland and Curacao, and I, John Henry QUIRINDONGO, Mestizo Phenotype, personally saw that they got along famously as equals with their darker in-laws in PR and NYC.

In NYC, as I was growing up, some people, especially Argentinuans and Italian-Americans, were vocally surprised at the difference of my HISPANIC Mestizo Phenotype versus my “Italian White” siblings. I now get angry inside if somebody I just met tells me “You don’t look PR.” because I know they are lying to patronize me and put PR down. Some would also taunt their darker fellow Italian paisanos some who were even darker than me calling them SPIKS or PRs.

My mother born 1910 told me when I was very young about five (5) yrs old circa 1938 that her father told her he had some Irish blood from the CORES side of the family. My mother also mentioned Mapy_Pilar Cordero de Cortés a PR actress in Mexico who had PILAR as a middle name same as my mother but my mother said Mapy Cortes was no relation. The defunct Isaias Cortes was her true gfather. She also said that the surname QUIRINDONGO came from the word LOVE Querer but recently I learned she must have meant the false cognates Spanish words for a male LOVER Querindongo and Querendon.

Some Bronx NY Irish classmates in 1938 said I looked like SABU the Indian child-actor and I asked my mother aboit it. She showed me a picture of my gmother who looked Indian from India with a shock of white hair on the front right side of her long black hair.My mother said that my mestizo phenotype came from her side of the family... my mother’s mother was Amerindian phenotype. My mother was White-skinned and White-phenotype because of her White father and that the Quirindongo family siblings and parents of my father were all White. She said there were Black QUIRINDONGO families no relation living in Guayama PR.

About 1946, in a NYC Catholic school, an Irish classmate said,”Jesus the Christ (no surname) was not White, He looked more like Quirindongo, here.” pointing to me.

When I was about twenty-two (22) in 1955, my brothers, my father and I were at a restaurant in the Bronx speaking English and Spanish. The waiter asked what language we were speaking. I said we were speaking Spanish as we were PR. He said, after quickly looking us over pointing at my sixty-six (66) yr old father. “He doesn't look PR, he looks White.” I said, ”He's our father the only one here born in PR.”

My parents were both from the same small town of Penuelas and were distant cousins on the Arroyo side of the family. My Castiza ggmother Valentina on my mother's side was 2nd cousin once removed from my father's Castiza mother my gmother Carmen.

My first discovery of a Black QUIRINDONGO ancestor was when I was sent by PR blogger-rooter Ariel Blondet, the LDS Maria Sabina DIAS 1818 Death Notice wherein she names husband Pedro QUIRINDONG O “negro olandes” executor of her Will.

QUIRINDONGO Cultural Artifacts
1) Kirindongo abou and Kirindongo ariba ezttant barrios in Curacao
2) Kirindongo surname and many similar variations widespread
3) Maria Sabina DIAS de QUIRINDONGO unusual Will
4) Cryptic and mysterious Papiamento Kirindongo song lyrics
”Kirindongo…….……. Djan Galina a mata hende el a bai
Kirindongo…………… ma weg’i cuchu mi no por
Kirindongo…………… Djan Galina a drenta barcu el a bai
Kirindongo ……………weg’i floret mi no por Kirindongo”
(T1216) sung by Elia Benzan :
As per Padre Paul Brennaker SAMBUMBU Oral History

Cultural Artifacts in PR
1) Unuusual Maria Sabina DIAS de QUIRINDONGO 1818 PR Death cerificate
2) Juan (Mestizo phemotype) QUIRINDONGO MORELL High School in Vega Baja PR in Spanish in English
3) Religious Fiesta of Santiago Matamoros (the brother of Jesus) in Loiza Aldea, Puerto Rico is an over two hundred (200) yr old 1800 AD Caribbean Version of a 13th Century over seven hundred (700) yr old Spanish religious Pageant of Santiago Matamoros itself a historically bogus revision myth Santiago de Compostela, Spain’s famous fantasy urban legend festival of the 44 AD? martyrdom and saintly return from the grave of James, the Just (no surname) “brother of Jesus” whose ghost came back young, beautiful, with a ghostly white horse, fine modern armament regalia ready thirteen (13) Centuries later to help Catholic Spain and take sides in a war to kill infidel “Saracen” Moors. The fiesta in Spain and PR is celebrated quite somberly during the day on the 24th of July. But after dark before and after that day starting about 1831, it becomes a BLACK CULT curiosity of feasting and drinking alcohol every night from July 23-28 in a predominately Black city Loiza Aldea in PR.

A Sacrilegious and obscene QUIRINDONGO with the rare and unique non-PR-one-name-surname takes over the parade grunting and sreaming each night and uncovers his PENIS a black broom stick to…
1. various screaming “crazy women believers” pointing at “the penis” representing the laity or non-clergy called “Maximinas” and
2. many “true” enemies or anti-Christ surrogates called “vejigantes”
3. Three other nightly Black Santiagos or "Chagos": Santiagón, Santiago and Santiaguito. One for the Men, (the biggest, of course), one normal size for the women and one for the children (the smallest), Chagón, Chago and Chaguito.
4. Everyone in the damcing cheering crowd chanting along singing rhymed PROFANITIES about the enormous size of the QUIRINDONGO penis in an annual anti-religious ritual-farce parade answer to St.James, the Just… Moor-slayer.
5. Other newer Santiago for gays the one they call Santo Cañandongo, (defender of what? We’ll never know) who they baptize with home-made distilled cañita rum after the outrageous festival antics are over.
“San” QUIRINDONGO the “Defender of the Blacks” (Saracen-Moors) was added sometime after 1831 to the outrageous ritual parade because of the widespread infamy and the Black challenge to authority in the pre-abolition yr of 1830 in Ponce PR when free-born-in-Curacao Patriarch “Black Pedro” QUIRINDONGO an old man of 65? still strong, still potent, still vocally wanting and demanding his people's INALIENABLE RIGHTS was a disident called “altanero” arrogant or better yet UPPITY as cited in the Mayoral Archives of Ponce.

The 1830 QUIRINDONGO “arrogant” issue in Ponce can only be the inspiration and precursor of the yearly return of “Defender of the Blacks” answer surrogate for the anti-black anti-muslim White Christian establishment fable Santiago Apostol Matamoros in Loiza Aldea in nightly ritual farce feasts from July 23-28? We’ll never know for sure.
The Genealogy Surname-yDNA Theory Applied .… After migrating within the pre-desert Sahara and south Africa for eons, some migrating groups weather permitting migrated aeay from the Sahara desert into southern Europe and southern Asia seventy (70) thousand yrs ago. Forty (40) thousand yrs ago they underwent phenotype and mtDNA modified mutation changes in isolated groups and inbred for thousands of centuries. This long-term isolated inbreeding led to the White-Caucasian, Black-Negroid and Yellow-Asian Races. YDNA is a dominant identifiable Y gene-chroosome that remsins relatively unchanged for hundreds to thousands of centuries,
Surnames usually follow a famly generation after generation in the recent 600 yrs plus in the West European ancestry pedigree and tracked together with yDNA develop into a valid paper trail.
ysearch.org
a. (eye)I 7.06%,
b. (eye)I1a 7,56%,
c. (eye)I1b 2.93%,...(***)
d. (eye)I1c 1.28%,
My Haplogroup I (eye) 2a1 (P37.2+1) M26+1defined by M170
(formerly I (eye) 1b1) ...(***)
Eight (8) mutation Ancestors: Adam BT CT CF F IJK IJ I (eye)
The QUIRINDONGO yDNA migration route starts as all others do in the Sub Sahara AFRICA over 70,000 yrs ago prior to the Last Glacial Maximum. yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) may have been confined to refugia around the Black Sea and in the Balkans during the last Ice Age, and then traveling northward during the recolonization of northern Europe and predates Indigenous_peoples_of_Europe and Saami_people and in modern times yr 1400 in a 99 % functionally illiterate Holland and dark ages Europe.

About thirty (30) thousand yrs ago, Haplogroup I (eye)2a was born and with unknown Phenotype endured in the Romania and south east Europe area. The FTDNA test pointed to a starting yDNA point Haplogroup I (eye) the dominant male yDNA gene in a direct unbroken male line to me. But this js just one (1) gene or one male person thirty (30) thousand yrs ago changed by time and millions of mtDNA female modifiers then to Haplogroup “I” (eye) and now mtDNA modifiers to Haplogroup “I” (eye) 2a1+1 M26+1, a likely place to begin a paper-trail with scientific certainty and to reject fallacious urban legends or mistaken oral history.
The FTDNA tests are limited leaving big time gaps and measure QUIRINDONGO yDNA along the patrilineal lines of inheritance as all simiIar yDN tests do. Each yDNA test only measures one individual in one Haplogroup and thousands, perhaps millions of ancestors in his DNA thread. Important amcient migraton patterns are developed to begin a paper trail. They cannot tell exactly when the mutations leading to homo sapiens began of the total of millions in the Ancestry “thread” nor if any Haplogroup had reverse mutations nor most importantly, among other things, when we began to talk, clothe ourselves and when and where Racial phenotypes were born.

Haplotree anonymous matches as per FTDNA
I (eye) Romania Sephardic (Facshana) 30,000 yrs ago
4 -Step Mutations
I(eye)2a1 Germany - 2
I(eye)2a1 Poland - 1
I(eye)2a1 Spain - 1
I(eye) 2a1 Unknown Origin - 1

Age_of_Discovery in Asia
Non-Documented assumptions: My “I” eye yDNA first appears outside of Europe in Asia as early as 1610 with the Dutch European explorer-traders when and where small amounts of Dutch Haplogroup I (eye) yDNA were continuously modified by Asian mtDNA Phenotypes in Japan, China, Indonesia and Malaysia identifiably the same Haplogroup I (eye) that first appeared 25,000 yrs ago in “Sephardic (Facshana) Romania-Russia” .

In 1609 - The Dutch opened a short-term trading factory in Hirado. The yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) match male with the surname Doncker soon after traveled by boat to far off Asian Malaysia where a male child was sired to initiate a perfect eight (8) marker parallel Haplogroup I (eye) match yDNA search that still endures in “Malaysia (Indian)” and is in a direct blood ancestry parallel branch lineage to me. There was further racial mixing in Japan and the China coast from Hirado with Jacques_Specx and in Deshima in Nagasaki harbor trade which spread to the China coast and interior and yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) shows up as out of the ordinary exotic matches and near-matches in the present today four hundred (400) yrs later while the exotic European-in-Malaysia yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) male’s ancestry perfect eight (8) marker yhrd.org yDNA anonymous match remains in “Malaysia in the Indian community” since… 1610?

According to FTDNA the Dutch Haplogroup I (eye) yDNA is today significantly identifiable in:
0.22% in East Asia China-Japan ...(***) not in main migration route and negligible in South Asia-India points to reccent 1600s arrival
0.78% in Eastern Europe not in main migration route
1.01% in Northern Asia Siberia not in main migration route
2.70 % in the middle East
15,86 % in Western Europe
See FTDNA Haplotree Frequency Map Kit 35383 Password P8840
Percentages are misleading but important since 0.22% of Haplogroup I (eye) yDNA in East Asia is unusual, exotic.., out-of-place, minute, identifiable European yDNA found in East Asia in substantial numbers. I (eye) yDNA constitutes a very small percentage of the total populaton but with a wide distribution in port cities and inland river ports can only mean that they had arrived in Asia-China-Japan recently.

According to the yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) and paper trail, Quirindongo as Doncker-Quirindongo after leaving Europe until 1580 lived:
non-documented paper trail but yDNA found
Over four hundred (400) yrs in Japan-Malaysia-Indonesia-China 1610 to present
documented paper and yDNA trail
Over three-hundred-seventy-five (375) yrs and over in Curacao and terra firma 1634? to present
Over two-hundred twenty nine (229) yrs and over in PR 1780 to present
Over eighty five (85) yrs in NYC and USA 1924 to present

...And pre-Quirindongo Haplogroup I (eye) yDNA was in yDNA migration resident areas:
Sub Sahara Africa and pre-desert Sahara... over 10,000,000 yrs ago
Callitrichidae
Cebidae
Aotidae
Pitheciidae
Atelidae
Cercopithecidae
Hylobatidae
Hominidae
Haplorrhini
Simian
Primkate
pre-lucy and Lucy Homo_erectus phenotype? Over... 2 to 8 million yrs ago
Sahara desert slowly formed climate changed life scattered Worldwide to Sub Sahara, East to Asia, India, Indonesia and China areas 1 million yrs ago
Homo_sapiens #Origin phenotype? 200,000 yrs ago
1. East Africa, Egypt?India, China 70,000 yrs ago phenotype?
2. Horn of Africa? Egypt? phenotype?
3. Southwest Asia ? phenotype?
4. Cro-Magnon enters Spain, France and Europe phenotype?
5. “Separdic (Facshana) Romania-Russia” 30,000 yrs ago
6. Y-dna I (eye) born ****
phenotype?
Culture
Transition_to_civilization
7. Europe ? Phenotype?
8. Holland ? phenotype Caucasian 15,000 to 20,000 yrs ago
Paper trail and possibly documented
9. Asia in 1610? yDNA match in the “Malaysia Indian community”
10. Curacao taken by Dutch 1634
11. Wandongo Jan-(Juan) DONCKER t takes office 1673
12. Wandongo/Kirindongo Curacao “Watertown” named 1675?
13. Black Slave Maria Magdalema born Curacao? 1738? 1718?
14. Mulatta Slave Andrea Genia born Curacao 1757? 1730-1740?
15. Mulatto Nicolas KIRINDONGO? son of ? Born Curacao 1740?
16. Written surname/town cognate? KIRING DONGO 1758
17. Mulatto Pedro KIRINDONGO son of Nicolas born Curacao 1760?
18. Patriarch Pedro QUIRINDONGO arrives Ponce PR in 1780
19. White Phenotype Carmelo QUIRINDONGO arrives NYC 1924
20. Mestizo Phenotype John Henry QUIRINDONGO b. NYC 1933

And the Quirindongo Phenotype changed quickly in each area to the Phenotype of the prevailing majority due to resident mtDNA.

The WEST INDIES Adventure
The European yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) match Male migrated to the New World’s Curacao where a perfect and near-matches spread to terra firma Spanish main Venezuela in or after 1634, progressing to PR in 1780 phenotypically mulatto and ultimately to NYC Castizo phenotypically White in 1924 mating with my Mother Castiza-Mestiza in 1932.

1673 - 1679 Governor Curacao Jan DONCKER called Wandongo
Town called Kiring Doncker-Dongo Anecdotal History Doncker.

QUIRINDONGO in Curacao?
1758 - Slaven Register (Black slave Maria Magdalena and daughter given freedom and surname) “negerin Maria Magdalena Kiring Dongo met haar jongste kind Andrea Genia door de oud-raad Nathanael Ellis, voor 300 peso” Were Maria and Andrea illiterate & vulnerable who spoke only African? Where would Maria get 300 gold peso? from a White man mate? Did the fact that Maria had a child from a White man makes him legally responsible as a parent and she and the daughter legally eligible to his surname and monetory aid ”under the old rule... or law”? "door de oud-raad"? Slave Register. Search (zoek) Dongo and/or Ellis. No Doncker Donker

1816, “QUIRINDONGO ..., Juan Pedro *, Natural de Curazao: reside en Puerto Rico desde el ano 1794; obtiene carta de naturalizacion en abril de 1816 al amparo de la Cedula de Gracias. A. G. 1., Aud. Sto.Dgo Leg., 94.91” Juan Pedro, Pedro’s son, becomes citizen after twenty two (22) yrs residence in PR.

1818 From LDS Film: “DEATH: #820714, San José de Peñuelas: María Sabina DIAS, 55; (arrived PR age 31? born 1763 in Curazao) muere 07 Jan 1818, Peñuelas. Casada con Pedro QUIRINDONGO, un negro olandés (mulatto).Testó (She wrote a Will) Su albacea (executor), su esposo Pedro QUIRIDONGO.(sic)”

PROBABILITIES and CONCLUSIONS :
1. Haplogroup I (eye) Y-DNA 67 marker test Trail/thread predates 1400 in a
99 % functionally illiterate Holland.
2. The Doncker surname in Asia can only be traced by yDNA as it appears in small exotic numbers in Asia. The Deshima history is shrouded in mystery to me as historical records of Deshima Japan are written in Japanese and Dutch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanban_trade#Dutch_involvement
3. Jan (Juan) Doncker surname changed to phonetic cognate WANDONGO in the 1650s Curacao pidgin vernacular and written in Papiamento Wandongo, watertown to Kiring Dongo and Kirindongo. Phonetic spellings of unfamiliar words were common in Curacao.
4. “negerin Maria Magdalena Kiring Dongo met haar jongste kind Andrea Genia.” Was Nathanael Ellis, “Former Council“, possibly a slave broker who sold and/or rented slaves?, Was Maria or Andrea Pedro QUIRINDONGO’s gmother? mother? Did Pedro have a rich white Dutch gfather KIRING DONCKER/DONGO ggson of 1673 – 1679 Governor Jan Donker. The Maria Magdalena mate KIRING DONCKER/DONGO could also have been named after the father Andres or Eugenio Doncker/DONGO – (Mulatto Eugenio QUIRINDONGO de Mat(h)os appears later born in 1820 as father to EL HOLANDES a very White phenotype Alejandro) -perhaps skipping generations reverting back to phenotype of the family of Governor Jan Doncker calle Wandongo?
timelines.htm
surname.htm
surnames.quirindongo
localities.caribbean.puertorico

The 1818 María Sabina DIAS Will was very unusual and unheard of of an immigrant in PR married to a free Black with ten (10) children and female citizen of another country. The Will must have been probated in 1818 in Curacao and may have dealt with land holdings in Kirindongo Curacao and could have led three (3) yrs later to the 1821 Kirindongo town insurrection of the Militia? Or could it be something as simple as establishing new ownership of the CEDULA de GRACIAS land grant in PR.

Non-Documented PAPER TRAIL
Europe
My g ggg ggg ggg gfather (no name known) DONCKER Haplogroup I (eye) born 1590 in Holland
My ggg ggg ggg gfather (no name known) DONCKER Haplogroup I (eye) born1610? in Deshima Japan
My gg ggg ggg gfather (no name known) DONCKER Haplogroup I (eye) born 1620? in Kuala Lampur Malaysia
My g ggg ggg gfather Jan DONCKER or siblng ot “Wandongo” Haplogroup I (eye) born 1650? in Curacao
My ggg ggg gfather (no name known) DONCKER Haplogroup I (eye) born 1680? in Curacao
My gg ggg gfather KIRING DONCKER-DONGO Haplogroup I (eye)born 1710? in Curacao mated with a Black woman

Documented PAPER TRAIL starts 1740?
My g ggg gfather Juan Nicolas QUIRINDONGO European yDNA Mulatto phenotype born in Curacao 1740? died 1817-20? in Peñuelas PR
My ggg gfather Patriarch Pedro QUIRINDONGO European yDNA Mulatto phenotype born in Curacao 1760? 2nd marriage 1818 to Andrea de Mat(h)os “Parda” brown
My gg gfather Eugenio QUIRINDONGO de Mat(h)os born Peñuelas Oct 1820 European yDNA Mulatto phenotype married White phenotype Castiza gg gmother Joaquina FELICIANO
(entries above submitted by Jaime Cortes)

My g gfather Alejandro QUIRINDONGO Feliciano “el Holandes” Castizo White phenotype 1841-6 Feb 1893 married in 1859? 1863? to g gmother White phenotype Castiza Juana Genara SANTIAGO Arroyo b. 1839
My gfather (Jose) Monserrate QUIRINDONGO Santiago Castizo firstborn 1858-1921 listed as “B” blanco (white) in 1910 Census barrio Rucio Oeste in Peñuelas PR Jose Monserrate and Carmen Arroyo Torres- Castiza 13 Feb 1888 marriage listed “B” blanca (white) in 1910 Census. barrio Rucio Oeste in Peñuelas PR
My father (Jose) Carmelo QUIRINDONGO Arroyo Castizo phenotype firstborn 5 Nov 1888-13 Feb 1968 listed “B” blanco (white) in 1910 Census barrio Rucio Oeste in Peñuelas PR.
Me, John Henry QUIRINDONGO Arroyo (should be Cortes) Mestizo phenotype born in NYC 14 Feb 1933 listed Hispanic in all US census

My Quirindongo yDNA Haplogroup I (eye) 2a1 (P37.2) defined by M170 near and perfect matches in timeline sequential order are found in Europe by way of Africa followed by smaller quantities in Japan, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Curacao, terra firma Spanish Main on to barrio Rucio Oeste in Peñuelas PR then on to NYC and USA leaving an exotic and unusually rare European yDNA “footprint” that only recently left Europe. The I (eye) yDNA does NOT appear in the Philipines, India Africa or Australia.

The phenotype, culture, language and customs repeatedly changed upon arrivong in Europe and elsewhere after leaving with an unknown phenotype the “Sephardic (Facshana) Romania-Russia” 25,000 to 30,000 yrs ago changed phemotype quickly and became virtually indistinguishable from the prevailing Holland caucasian majority in Europe and later changing phenotype again in Asia and changed again in the New World. This syndrome repeated itself again and again over a wide area. The product of my ancestral migration has given me a Mestizo phenotype and a well-entrenched literate NYC-USA-PR bilingual Atheist identity who believes the one-cell life that led to present day homo sapiens started eons ago in a primeval puddle, pond, lake and/or ocean swimning as sperm does today in vaginal fluid innately looking to multiply and change into a more complex multi-cell lifc.

The Quirindongo PAPER TRAIL shows mulatto phenotypes in PR early in the 1800s and earlier in Curacao. Black African mtDNA began modifying phenotype from 1758 Maria Magdalena (or more likely Andrea Genia) who mated? with Kiring Doncker/Dongo and was given the Kiring Dongo surname.

Free Black African females surnamed Kirindongo are found in abstracts in English buying land in and around the town of Kirindongo while Curacao was under temporary 1800-02 and 1807-16 Brith occupations. Abolition of Slavery in Curacao was 1863, in PR 1873, in Eisngland 1807.

The recent Black mtDNA introduced circa 1758? in Curacao ends with the closest male ancestor to me gg gfather Mulatto Eugenio QUIRINDONGO b.1820 and his mother Andrea de Mat(h)os “Parda” (Brown) in my gene pool three (3) generations removed from me. This microsm of the HOMO SAPIENS development of racial phenotypes in accordamce with Mendel's Genetic LAW of PROBABILITIES.

For an additional $184.00, an additional Autosomal DNA of non-gendered Race analysis can find the racial ancestors % which altered my phenotype and genotype. This test is not recommended by FTDNA for genealogical purposes because it “produces little useful information”. and CODIS The Combined DNA Index System UNIQUE PERSONAL PROFILE tracking are used by the Police. I can see some logic since Blacks in my paper trail are enough in my case. The Asian ancestors to show in my DNA Autosome are a long shot in the short stay in Asia one (1) generation where a half Asian breed shipped out to Curacao. Also todaiy they in Asia would be of little consequence and add little after over four hundred (400) yrs of separation. They would be just a curiosity and at best what they are now a ”lost” recent parallel yDNA cognate who stayed in Asia now completely integrated there. I may much later in the final analysis pay the $184 or maybe less for my non-gendered autosome test to clear up very small doubts about Race and give a more complete Racial ancestry picture regardless of existing phenotype.

In the case of ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER whose surname means BLACK NEGR0 infers Black ancestry in German. The results of an AUTOSOME test would be interesting because he has a White phenotype and is a well-known worldwide celebrity. BABE RUTH, ALEXANDER HAMILTON, FRANK CAPRA, SHELDON LEONARD and DINAH SHORE would also be interesting since I believe they all have RECENT within three (3) hundred fifty yrs African ancestry as per rumors early in their careers.

My progeny in the USA after just three (3) generations show only five (5) of eighteen (18) or one-third (1/3) carry my identical “I” (eye) 2a1 yDNA. See my children, gchildren and ggchildren at the bottom of this report.

Facts stated or inferred but not in evidence:
1. Quirindongo-Doncker was in Asia before going to Curacao
2. Wandongo and Kirindongo are the same area
3. Cedula de Gracias land grant is in El Rucio
4. Black Maria Magdalena or Mulatta Andrea Genia is Nicolas’ mother
5. Wandongo Jan Doncker Gov 1673 is in the Quirindongo ancestry
6. Sabina DIAS was born Jewish and owned land in Kirindongo Curacao
7. The “Maria“ Sabina DIAS Will was involved in the 1821 Kirindongo Insurrection
8. The Maria Sabina DIAS Will is also involved the Cedula de Gracias land grant
9. Kiring is Amerindian for FRESH WATER or OASIS

DNA in PR
2002 Wikipedia
Female (mtDNA)..…..…….……Male (yDNA)
61.1% Amerindian…....………..70% European
26.4% European ……………….20% African
12.5% African..…….……..……10% Amerindian
Majority non-verifiesmigrating mtDNA generally determines country phenotype
J C virus and confirms unusually high 61-2 % PR Amerindian mtDNA and migration routes.
“…based on non-gendered Autosomal ancestry informative markers Puerto_Rico#Genetics The study showed…
98% of the people sampled had European ancestry markers,
87% had African ancestry markers,
84% had Native American ancestry markers,
5% showed only African and European markers,
4% showed only Native American,
2% showed only African markers and
2% showed only European markers.”
Missing are:
1. African and the Native American % markers only sampled and
2. European and the Native American % markers only sampled
3. all three (3).

These results prove false the hypothesis that the Amerindian Tainos disappeared from PR by the end of the sixteenth century only the Amerindian lamguage had died. The results show a vast pervasive amount of racial mixing miscegenation and a high percentage of Amerindian mtDNA rendering a rainbow panoply of ostensible Amerindian, White, Mulatto, Mestizo Zambo, and/or Black phenotypes. Altho’ the dominamt paternal Dutch QUIRINDONGO yDNA “I” (eye) 2a1 (P37.2+1)M26+1 appears outside of Europe early - perhaps as early as 1610, yDNA and phenotype has been continuously modified by mtDNA away from Europe every generation afterwards, the Dutch yDNA remains constant, an identifiable exotic curiosities. This is normal and expected because mtDMA can change phenotype in one (1) generation. White, Black, Mestizo and Mulatto phenotypes can come from the same parents regardless of the parent’s phenotype according to the Mendelian Law of Phenotype Probabilities. For instance from two (2) “White” phenotype parents the results are:
John 5/15/91
Richard 4/25/94
Barbara 1/16/98

Ethnic composition of present day PR

No “pure breed” in Israel
http://www.joshuaproject.net/countries.php?rog3=IS

Homo_sapiens#Race_and_ethnicity

Race_(classification_of_human_beings)
Race_and_intelligence

Economic Stagnation and Decline | Roots of our Future by Linda M. Rupert

1845 PR census
”Whites............................ 216,083”
Many White phenotypes had Amerindian and/or Black mtDNA
“Free colored....................175,791”
included free blacks, Amerindians, mulattos and mixtures of each.
“Slaves................….......... 51,265”
included mostly blacks, few “Amerindians, Blacks, mulattos and mixtures of each
“Total.................…......... 443,139”
Mulatto widespread in PR and White phenotype Amerindian mingled mtDNA in majority
European Coats of Arms
Doncker Arroyo Cortes Velazquez Torres Cadiz Feliciano Santiago Curtis
Wikipedia Main article: Human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup
Human Y chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) haplogroups are lettered A through T, and are further subdivided using numbers and lower case letters. Y chromosome haplogroup designations are established by the Y Chromosome Consortium.[2]
Blacks and other non-Whites in Spain Italy Germany Europe and the New World
Europe and World Slavery and Bible ancient and present Slav-Slovak-Slovene Slavery
Earliest Black sub Sahara Black Slave trade
Black Slaves in Italy Portugal and Spain prior to 1492 in Spanish – for more click pages on bottom
Sub-Sahara African sicklecell anemia followed the slave trade into Europe India and New World altho’ Black phenotype when in small amounts and rate of miscegenation changes to the majority population
RACE History Timeline Curacao
(1,000 yrs) Quirindongo true and false cognates
Non-documented possibilities
1100? surname Doncker appears in Holland in Latin script
1400? surname Kiring found in France in Latin script
1499? Querindongo and Querendon (lover) words appears in Latin script in Spain
1634? Amerindian-Dutch phonetic word “Kiring” for fresh water? or oasis? found in Curacao
1640? Wandongo/Jan/Juan Doncker short-lived place-name (never a surname in Curacao) appears as a watertown oasis in Curacao
1645? Kirindongo phonetic place-name appears in Curacao in Spanish Papiamento as a water oasis
1650? Kiring Dongo in Dutch Papiamento Latin script appears as a surname and a watertown oasis in Curacao
ALL DOCUMENTED DATA
1673-79 Jan/Juan Doncker (Wandongo) quits governorship to enlarge and continue selling fresh well-water
1750 Slave rebellion Hato Plantation in Curacao
1758 Maria Magdalena manumitted in Curacao given surname Kiring Dongo
1760-estimated Pedro Quirindongo birth
1763 Matriarch Sabina DIAS born Jewish adds name Maria later marries Pedro
1780 Patriarch Pedro Quirindongo migrates from Curacao to PR
Curacao’s Population: 1789-1833
1791 WIC finally goes Bankrupt in Curacao after many yrs running in the red
1794 Juan Pedro Quirindongo son of Pedro arrives in PR from Curacao
1795 Tula and Carpata slave rebellion - names as name, surname or town-name legacy doesn’t survive
1800-02 British occupation in Curacao
1807-16 British occupation of Curacao
1810-14 Black Kirindongo womem buy lamd in Kirindongo
1818 Maria Sabina DIAS dies - unusual Will probated in Curacao?
1818 Patriarch Pedro Quirindongo marries 2nd time to Andrea de Mat(h)os
1820 Eugenio Quirindongo born to Pedro and Andrea
1821 insurrection in Kirindongo “East Division” of free Blacks in militia.
1830 Pedro Quirindongo arrogant in Ponce at age 65?
1863 Kirindongo surname in Latin script given to freed slaves in Curacao abolition when owners compensated
1865 Some 1/5 USA Black slaves take on European surnames and slave owners NOT compensated
1873 Slavery abolished in PR - surnames in Latin script given to freed slaves when owners compensated
1881-1889 Bismarck institutes Social

Security and mandates surnames in Germany Jews included
1898 Carmelo and Raimundo QUIRINDONGO join US Army
1914 More USA African-Americans get European surnames as soldiers in WW I
1924 Carmelo Quirindongo ex-GI WW I migrates from PR to NYC
ALL RECENT FALSE COGNATES
1930? Dongo surname food-name religious-name and tribal-name appear in Latin script in Africa
1935 Turkey mandates all citizens use surname in Latin script
1935 official banner yr for European surnames in Latin script covers 100% USA under Social Security for all Americans, Black, Amerindian, and Asian
1940? Wandongo surname (never a place-name in Africa nor surname in Curacao) appears in Latin script in Tanzania Africa
1945 Mussolini captured and killed near Dongo Italy
1991 Kiryandongo place-name (never a surname) appears in Latin script in Uganda Africa

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Only additional unavailable mtDNA/yDNA analysis and missing Curacao family history can we find ALL missing information.

M y CONCLUSIONS

Me, Titi Maria and Titi Mercedes QUIRINDONGO in 1980
Me and Wife
My ex-wife and my three daughters
My siblings Jim Frank Nancy with my mother
My children John Frank Steve Arlene Rebecca JoAnne
My gchildren: five (5) of eighteen (18) carry my identical “I” (eye) yDNA
Asheley (Adopted)….……. kittyluv3@hotmail.com December 1981 Los Angeles, Ca mother Ann Wiggle
My Gchildren
1) Melissa……………......January 18, 1982 Astoria NY Secretspirit82@hotmail.com mother Susan Danner
2) Carina (Pettersson)…....February 1, 1982 Stockholm, Sweden Caripett@hotmail.com mother Wendy Chen
3) Jacqueline………..……August 6, 1983 Bethpage NY rosekitten75@hotmail.com mother Susan Danner
4) John (Quiles)…………. March 16, 1984 San Diego Calif mother Deborah Pino… same “I” (eye) yDNA
5) Victoria (Leavens)….....June 25, 1988 Bethpage NY mother Rebecca Q. rebecca@favoriteinvites.com
6) Franklin Victor………. May 2, 1989 Kissimee Fl mother Susan Danner… same “I” (eye) yDNA
7) Aubrey Steffany…….…1991 Bklyn NY mother Ann Wiggle
8) Rachel (Leavens) .…….October 13, 1992 Long Island NY mother Rebecca Q. rebecca@favoriteinvites.com
9) John Reginald (Quiles).San Diego Ca mother Pattie… same “I” (eye) yDNA
10) Phillip Frank..……… April 22, 1996 Bx NY mother JoAnne Quintana… same “I” (eye) yDNA
11) Alexander Severiano...June 25, 1996 Bklyn NY mother Ann Wiggle… same “I” (eye) yDNA
12) Benjamin (Ahlers)….. January 29, 2000 Albuquerque NM mother JoAnne Q. j_quirindongo@yahoo.com
13) Erin (McDonald)…….November 2001 Nesconset Long Island NY mother RebeccaQ. rebecca@favoriteinvites.com
14) Meaghan (McDonald) July 2003 Nesconset Long Island NY mother RebeccaQ. rebecca@favoriteinvites.com
15) Janet (Quiles) San Diego Ca mother Florence Giaquinta
16) Grace (McDonald)...Sep 8 2006 Nesconset Long Island NY mother RebeccaQ. rebecca@favoriteinvites.com
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GGchildren
Senefra Fey (Brown) born 23 January 2004 Kissimee FL mother Melissa Q. Secretspirit82@hotmail.com
Boy (Brown) Kissimee FL mother Melissa Q. Secretspirit82@hotmail.com

Re: Puerto Rico records Petition

Rlebron42 — 2009-11-20 05:51:26Z

The San Juan marriage etc. records.....

Re: Puerto Rico records Petition

buddamonkey — 2009-11-20 05:42:37Z

Hey there, just curious, which records did you order that were in bad shape? thanks

Re: Puerto Rico records Petition

Rlebron42 — 2009-11-20 05:36:18Z

Hi, another thing with the LDS records, I checked the one from San Juan and believe me, it is in really bad shape..You can hardly make up the names etc. etc. I ordered one and went about 4 times to look up my names and could not find one, and the ones that I found were in bad shape that I could not make up most of the names, dates. etc. etc.

Re: Melvin/Melvie Perry, Pueblo Verde 11 Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, ca 1960

buzzardfriends — 2009-11-20 05:22:08Z

hello, melvie was my great uncle. clarence was my grandpa. i have heard of the picture on the jail wall and as far as we know the picture was so good that the jail kept it and is still there. uncle melvie also painted a picture of my uncle vernon which uncle vernon still has. it is an awesome painting.

Re: Garcia - Puerto Rico

johnjr1128 — 2009-11-20 02:34:50Z

im trying to find info
My grandfather was William Aromi and his wife i beleive was Frances lebron
they had 2 sons, william and john and 5 daughters
elizabeth,laura, mercedes, belen and amparo

Re: Arnau - Manati, PR

ciscoj — 2009-11-19 13:58:44Z

I think I remember Emelina, she had a son named Reuben who went by the nickname Popo.

He stayed with us in Kansas City back around 90/91.

Desi raised me, my younger brother is his youngest son.

Send me an e-mail cisco_j@yahoo.com

Molinary

Rlebron42 — 2009-11-19 06:17:49Z

Hola, yo tengo una comadre que es de Aguadilla y se llama Maribel Molinary....al padre le dicen/decian Papy Molinary.
Dejame saber y yo la puedo llamar y preguntarle. Ella no tiene acceso a una cmputadora. Yo vivo en California.

Re: Arnau - Manati, PR

rortizlopez — 2009-11-19 02:59:39Z

The previous post was made by my aunt. My grandmother;s name was Emelina Arnau. I belive Desiderio Arnau lived in KC.

Re: COMERIO Y AGUAS BUENAS GIMENEZ-RIVERA-RAMOS

CDunkleberger1 — 2009-11-19 02:39:34Z

Hi, Have you checked 1910, 20 and 30 census on Alejo? They are all there. If you have Rivera Ramos I am sure we are related somewhere so stay in touch. There is also Montalvo in my family as My Uncle married a Montalvo from San German.

Figueroa, Rodriguez, Millan, Martinez - Guanica, PR

helgakasperait — 2009-11-19 00:16:59Z

Looking for ancestors of

Secundino Figueroa y Rodriguez (*ca. 1870)who married Antonia Millan y Martinez (*ca. 1880). They had at least 6 children, Juana (Juanita), Rosario, Santo, Victor, Lorenzo y Juan. They lived in La Laguna, Guanica. It seems from the 1930 census that Secundino had either died or did not live with his family at that time.

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: LOST FAMILY

Rootquest2 — 2009-11-18 22:09:56Z

Quiero saber si tambien tienen apellido Almodovar.

Re: Negrony Torres - Ponce / Guanica, PR

Rootquest2 — 2009-11-18 21:58:51Z

Negron y Torres /Guanica

Re: Negrony Torres - Ponce / Guanica, PR

Rootquest2 — 2009-11-18 21:55:51Z

Apellidos Negron de su padre y Torres de su madre----- Negron Y Torres

Pasajeros a Nueva York

ablo115670 — 2009-11-18 20:15:16Z

Greetings,

On May 1, 1947 the SS Marine Tiger departed from San Juan, Puerto Rico with 452 passengers. It arrived in Brooklyn, New York on May 5, 1947

Would you please come and meet these heroes and heroines of the Puerto Rican migration to New York

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~prraices/m...

A collaborative effort by Ariel Blondet and Dalia Morales

Saludos,

El día 1 de mayo de 1947 el buque de vapor Marine Tiger partió de San Juan, Puerto Rico. Se encuentra con 452 pasajeros manifestado. Lleca a Brooklyn, Nueva York el día 5 de mayo de 1947.

Por favor, pasen a la siguiente página para que conozcan a estos héroes y heroínas que participaron en la migración puertorriqueña a Nueva York

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~prraices/m...

Una colaboración de Ariel Blondet y Dalia Morales

Re: COMERIO Y AGUAS BUENAS GIMENEZ-RIVERA-RAMOS

NSilvestry — 2009-11-18 05:25:04Z

hello, I also have my mothers name was nicanora rivera 1917 ramos, she was born in sansebastian, her mother was Ramona Ramos y Rodruiquez,she was married to Alejo Rivera Montalvo they were born around 1883. I just started searching and only have a few connections. I am trying to find Ramona's parents and Alejandro's family. The family lived in Pozas sansebastian, moca and Isabella. Maybe we are related

Re: Schuck-Grau: Puerto Rico

heribertogoytia — 2009-11-17 15:55:54Z

Mi abuela Maria Schuck Grau, hermana de Pedro, Oscar,Enrique y Luisa, se casó en España con Goytia. Desde ese punto hasta el dia de hoy puedo trasmitir informacion. Me gustaria tener alguna informacion de los tiempos de puerto Rico.
Efectivamente, Pedro fue el fundador de los Bomberos en Puerto rico

Re: LOST FAMILY

vazquezgerry — 2009-11-16 17:42:33Z

I have an aunt Rosa Valentin (Vazquez by marriage) who's from Guayama. He mail me at vazquezgerry@yahoo.com and I'll connect you w/some of her children.

Re: Bourdon - Moca PR

mbourdon2000 — 2009-11-16 14:53:11Z

thanks for replying...i am not sure if i am related to a juana bourdon....need more info...very hard to trace information in puerto rico...........soto, rivera, bourdon are in my family.......thank you again

Re: Eloisa Ramirez Cuevas - Lares, PR

ddmillie — 2009-11-16 00:29:35Z

I am looking for information regarding My grandmother's family they lived in Lares PR Her name was Eloisa Cuevas Ramirez,could this be a relative? Thanks

Re: Bourdon - Moca PR

izzieboo1 — 2009-11-15 01:50:21Z

This note is for Carmen Martinez who is searching for her great grandmother's(Juana Bourdon)relatives from San Sebastian, PR. My aunt's name was Providencia Hernandez Bourdon. If you want more info. please leave a message. Thank you.

Re: BOURDON, RIVERA, CRESPO in mayaguez or aguadilla p.r.

izzieboo1 — 2009-11-15 01:39:51Z

This message is for Karmenxm who is looking for her Grandmother's relatives. Please leave a message if you are related to Providencia Hernandez of San Sebastian, PR. Thank you.

Re: Negroni

yulin0209 — 2009-11-14 17:37:58Z

TRY EMAILING:Hector Negroni of a PR genealogical Soc.
He has the whole history of the Negroni's from Italy.

hanegroni@hotmail.com

Re: Trevino, Ojeda - Fajardo, PR

mayrasing — 2009-11-14 05:33:39Z

Oh my, I had almost forgotten about this post. I had placed it just a month before my first son was born and almost 9 years later I get this email with your posting. Baudilia or Mamita as I remember we called her was mother's grandmother. My mother is Alicia daughter of Domingo Ojeda, who I guess would have been your granduncle. I will try to write you at your personal email with more information. I am getting ready to travel tomorrow so you'll probably hear from me again next week sometime. I reside in Central America now, my mother lived with me until 5 years ago she is now in Orlando. She had shared with us many memories of Titi Fini and her political days. Much more to share will catch up soon. My personal email is: mayra_singh@hotmail.com

Re: Trevino, Ojeda - Fajardo, PR

ltcolsal — 2009-11-13 18:43:35Z

Mayra,

My name is Salvador Batlle and I am the oldest grandson of Josefina Batlle Ojeda. I would like to know more about Baudilia and her family since Baudilia was my great grandmother. My direct email is skyhawk755@gmail.com

Gracias,

Salvador

Re: Santiago Roque - Cayey, PR

buddamonkey — 2009-11-13 07:22:11Z

If you get this email, I know a few of the children of Francisco Martinez and Josefa Santiago, three of his sons are married into my family, name is Orlando, my email is oreyes1@aol.com, hope this reaches!

Re: Gregory - San German, PR

lanena2envy1212 — 2009-11-13 01:15:26Z

My name is estefano gregory and I also have an uncle name Humberto. If you want to give me a call 347-861-1278/347-885-4413

Re: Colombani- Puerto Rico

miridom — 2009-11-10 21:50:52Z

Hi,

My godfather was surnamed Colombani.( Baptism in 1938 )I think he was from Juana Diaz, Puerto Rico. I looked up Colombani in my files and found Nuncio Colombiani,who came to Puerto Rico during the XIX century. He was 31 years old and lived in Mayaguez in 1872. He was single. It is possible that the surname was misspelled. He came from France ( possibly Corsica ).

See : http://home.mindspring.com/~johnqu/Estranjeros%20En%20PRtxt

This is John Quirindongo's page. I hope this helps.

Miriam

Re: Laracuente, Gracia- Ponce PR

Rootquest2 — 2009-11-10 02:28:07Z

Engracia Gracia Almodovar was my Grandmother also.

Re: Mary Sustache

voxdei1 — 2009-11-09 18:18:11Z

Antes que nada Saludos, desde Bolivia.

Me emcociona mucho poder contestar este post, a pesar que ya son 8 años, de que fue escrito.

Efectivamente Benito Sustacha Camargo tuvo como hijos a Estaurofilo, Maximo e Isidoro, pero nio eran los unicos tambien tubo una hija y un hijo mas, todos ellos con sus familias en Bolivia para ser mas claro en Sucre. Po diferentes situaciones este apellido a sufrido modificaciones, que al dia de hoy no es motivo de distanciamiento entre sus descendientes.

Aqui en bolivia mi padre y yo, estamos realizando el arbol genealogico de la familia tenemos como base algunas notas de mi Abuelo, ya contactamos a la gran mayoria. Pues solo falta poco.

Lo que falta es contactar con los descendientes de Mary Sustach(e) Pacheco,que vivio y tubo sus hjos en Bs. As. Argentina y que luego radico en USA, su padre fue Estaurofilo,y que tiene como hermmanos a Leonidas ((Mi abuelo), Jorge, Alberto y Fernando.(fallecido en la guerra el Chaco), ellos vivieron con sus familia en Bolivia, donde tambien yo vivo.

Espero palguien pueda responder este mensage, mas aqui (Bolivia) estamos en contacto, solo falta la familia de Mary.

Obituary from Bayamon Needed

MOUGHTY — 2009-11-09 17:26:34Z

I need to obtain an obituary for an individual who died in 1987 in Bayamon. If you can help, please contact me directly at moughty@mac.com.

Regards,
Donna

Re: Remus - Santurce, PR

leremus3 — 2009-11-09 06:54:46Z

this was my uncle, ruben gustavo. his brother, luis enrique remus (quintana) was my father. i am luis enrique remus (roque), born in santurce, and now living in houston, tx. i will be moving soon, destination still uncertain at the present time.

Help from someone in Caguas, PR

EGLZFN — 2009-11-08 12:13:51Z

I could use ome help getting information in Caguas, PR but I am in the states in Ohio. I don't visit Puerto Rico as much as I'd like to and when I do, I spend most of my time visiting relatives. If anyone can help me in furthering my family history and tree... I'd be very grateful.

My two main needs are:
a. Copies of Church records
b. Cemetery/Grave photos

email
eaglezfan@zoominternet.net

Re: Emmanuelli - Puerto Rico

merlock24 — 2009-11-07 00:30:34Z

me imagino que tu abuela era hermana de mi tatarabuela, Georgina Emmanuelli Negroni. Asdrubal entiendo era hijo de otro hermano/a

Re: Lebron - Caguas, PR

iriss52 — 2009-11-06 02:53:17Z

hi...I saw your posting and just wanted to let you know that your father is my grandfather. I am interested in finding jr...your brother my uncle....tell him Illy, Josefa daughter is also in florida...I know that he lives in florida and it would be nice to see him...he alway showed me a lot of love. If you can give him my email it would be great to hear from him....iris_s_52@yahoo.com If you talk to Nelly tell her Illy said hello and that my mother has also passed.

Re: looking for my roots

ctgarcialeon1 — 2009-11-06 00:14:22Z

You posted this back in 2000 and I don't know if you are still on ancestry.com but if you are please contact me. My father is Garcia-Costoso from Bayamon, Puerto Rico.

Re: Rodriguez Torres - Naranjito, PR

nr2171 — 2009-11-05 01:46:22Z

Mi bisabuela tambien es Delfina Torres!

Re: Torres - Naranjito, PR

nr2171 — 2009-11-05 01:45:21Z

Hello,
I don't know if you have followed up on this forum but my grandmother is Mercedes Matos Penabelt from Cedro Arriba in Naranjito, PR. Her brother was Rafael Matos who was an OB-GYN. Have you inquired any further on the origin of Penabelt, Matos?