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Chiotelis, Shiotelis or Shotell

sweet_missy_60 — 2009-12-01 20:46:49Z

Searching for information on the Chiotelis Family Tree. George E. Chiotelis was sent to the US by ship to escape the war at the early age of 12. Knows he was from an island in Greece but would like to find out more.

Re: Searching for Irene Steffens Caloger death after 1938 Athens

margarita07 — 2009-11-30 18:32:33Z

It is not easy to get a death certificate if you do not know the DoD and where she lived (Athens Municipality area or elsewhere). Anyway, here is the correct spelling of the names. Irene/Eirini Kalogeropoulou/Ειρήνη Καλογεροπούλου, Anastasios Kalogeropoulos/Αναστάσιος Καλογερόπουλος. Steffens must be Stefanos.

Thomas APOSTLE obit 1945

Obits101 — 2009-11-29 20:15:13Z

The Daily Oklahoman (newspaper)
Oklahoma City, OK, USA
07-05-1945
p.11

Former Cafe Operator Dies At Home Here

Thomas P. Apostle, 58, of 1517 W Main, died of
cerebral hemorrhage at his home Wednesday after-
noon.

Apostle was born in Verrino Aegion, Greece on
Jan. 1, 1886. He came to the United States at
the age of 18 and returned to Greece to enlist
in the army and fought in the Balkan war. After
the war he returned to the United States and
came to Oklahoma City in 1908. He established
the Royal Kitchen and Cafe at 102 W Grand, which
he operated for 18 years.

For the past several years he was employed by the
city as ground foreman at the city warehouse.

He is survived by his wife, Ida; a daughter,
Katherine Apostle, of the home address; and a brother
George, now in Canada.

07-06-1945
p.7

THOMAS P APOSTLE

Services for Thomas P Apostle, who died Wednesday
after a cerebral hemorrhage, will be at 2 pm
Saturday in the Greek Orthodox church, under the
direction of the Garrison funeral home. Burial
will be in Rose Hill.

***posted for genealogical purposes only; no relation***

Kafetzopolous, Mautika families of Buyuk Ada, Princess Islands (Greece/Turkey)

gejeangell1 — 2009-11-29 15:35:56Z

Kafetzopolous sometimes spelled Cafetzopolous.

Looking for info on the Kafetzopolous and Mautika families probably of the Princess Islands (which once was part of Greece, but is now part of Turkey).

Specifically looking for info on Dimitros Kafetzopolous (d. abt 1920) m. Kiriaki Mautika (d. abt 1920) and their children. Their 5 children were Sophia (b. 05 Apr 1908 in Buyuk Ada, Princess Islands, Greece/Turkey), Lefko, Despina and Cosmas.

I am descended from Sophia Kafetzopolous on my maternal side and would love to find out more about her ancestors and the siblings mentioned above.

- Sarah Angell

Mother's Greece Family Kurlas

wandaemcgill — 2009-11-29 05:44:11Z

I am in search of my mother and aunt's greek family. My ya ya was from Athens, Sparta, or Crete from what my aunt remembers. My grandmothers name was Marguarite Kurlas and she married here in the United States to a Howard Slye. Trying to put together a family tree and to see if any family members would still live in Greece. My ya ya's fathers name was Constantine Kurlas. If you have any information please contact by wandaemcgill@yahoo.com. I will not pay for information so do not try it.

Thank you so much for your help..

Wanda E McGill

Searching for Irene Steffens Caloger death after 1938 Athens

dunph29 — 2009-11-29 02:10:13Z

Hi~
I know that Irene Steffens Caloger (opolis) was still alive in Athens in 1938. Her husband Anastsious was passed away already.

Any idea how to track them?
Thank you
Marfgaret

Re: HELP with a family mystery

Beal1866 — 2009-11-27 22:47:28Z

Wow that must be it! I was spelling it "Ghangarous" since thats how it was pronounced to me by my grandmother. Thank you very much!

Re: HELP with a family mystery

margarita07 — 2009-11-27 21:59:06Z

Surname Gangaros/Gagaros/Γκάγκαροσ.

Re: constantinos collianesis

margarita07 — 2009-11-27 21:19:59Z

The (rare)greek surname Kallianesis/Καλλιανέσης is probably the closest match to your "Collianessis".

Re: Karkazis Families of Rizes, Tripolitza, Greece

alexkara10 — 2009-11-26 11:46:50Z

find Rizes Tegeas on Facebook perhaps u find that u want

Re: Otto Ives

dwalker149 — 2009-11-25 08:14:24Z

After I realized the error, I could no longer edit for some reason. Arabella Rotton was Otto's mother, error with spelling "Rotten".

Re: Otto Ives

dwalker149 — 2009-11-25 08:08:38Z

I stumbled across this forum topic. Looks like you've posted your question nearly 9 years ago.

Otto Ives was born in 1801 to father Edward Otto Ives, born 1754 in Gosport, Hampshire and mother Arabella Rotten, born April 13, 1764 in Duffield, Derbyshire.

Otto Ives' childhood is not well known, but in 1815 he was commissioned as a Cornet in the 7th Light Dragoons. In 1819, he was commissioned as an Ensign in the 32nd Cornwall Regiment until 1824 when he married Magdalene Diamanti on March 26 of that year in Corfu Greece. By this time, he had become a full Colonel.

Addtionally in the year of 1824, Otto Ives' wife Magdalene gave birth to his first son, Edward Otto Ives in Corfu, Greece. His second son, William Henry Ives was born in 1832, in Corfu, Greece.

The following spring of 1833, Col. Otto Ives, his wife with child, her widowed sister and two sons moved to Upper Canada, settling in the woods of Ancaster, Ontario on the property known as The Hermitage. He purchased the property from Reverend George Sheed and his brother Robert Sheed.

Not long at all after having settled in Ancaster, Magdalene gave birth to Otto Ives' third son, Alfred Ives, on April 25, 1833. Alfred was baptized by Reverend John Miller on June 23, 1833, as baby Alfred passed away. Alfred Ives was buried on June 24, 1833 - just 2 months old.

The summer of 1834 arrived a fourth son, Frederick Ives, born June 25. Frederick was baptized August 31, 1834, by Reverend John Miller.

The death of Colonel Otto Ives came just more than one year after Frederick was born. On July 3, 1835, Otto Ives had passed away at the age of 34 and was buried in the Ancaster Churchyard, July 4, 1835, by Reverend John Miller.

Background regarding The Hermitage and its hauntings date back to the family's arrival to Ancaster in 1833. A lady by the name of Mary Rosebeury had hired a coachman, William Black, who had later fallen in love with Mrs. Ives' sister. It is said that Mr. Black asked Otto Ives for her hand in marriage, to which Otto Ives refused. The legend says that William Black had been so upset with the decision, he took his own life, having hanged himself in the barn.

Taking ones own life forbids their grave be buried in the churchyard. William Black's remains are said to have been buried in the woods in a shallow grave with no marker some 2 kilometers from the Sheed-built Hermitage mansion. The grave, which is south of the Hermitage farming field is said to be where Sulphur Springs meet Lover's Lane. In the woods between Lover's Lane and the barn, it has been said that William can be heard sobbing to this day.

Daniel
Hamilton, Ontario

Re: Charles Mitsakos Shelton CT

charles1sb88f5ftrb7eu9sdn6j2psclvr1m — 2009-11-25 02:09:33Z

Sorry, I can't help you.

Dr. Charles L. Mitsakos
13 Housatonic Avenue
Chelmsford, MA 01824
charles@charlesmitsakos.com
617-571-4340

constantinos collianesis

mildred8573 — 2009-11-24 22:08:04Z

on my grandfathers bith certificate fathers names were gus nicholas collians on one and constantinos collianessi on the other on both mothers name was georgia smith looking to find out any info on these people my grandfather was told they passed away when he was six in 1915 cant find any records besides his birth record listing these names any info anyone has on these two would be highly appreciated i really came to a dead end need help

HELP with a family mystery

Beal1866 — 2009-11-24 02:53:35Z

An ancestor of mine was from Greece, but his father was a Scot.

My 3rd great-grandfather, Peter Watson, was born in Greece in 1843, and came to Brooklyn, NY around 1869. His 1927 death cert. says his father was Peter Watson, born in Scotland, and his mother was Mary "Granger" born in Greece. But the family story is that the name was Gangarous (or sounded close to Gangaroos). The story on that side of the family was that Peter Watson (senior) was the Scot ambassador to Greece and married a woman there, but nobody knows what happened after that. My 3rd great-grandfather was born in Greece but im not sure if he spent his life there until coming to New York.

I have no clue where to begin...

Thanks to anyone who can help

Re: Baltas in Muzakeon? near Athens

missjoanne — 2009-11-23 11:37:29Z

a quick google search reveals the town Muzakeika, but it is not near Athens. I hope this helps in your search.

Re: Relatives of Gus Zanetos

rzaneto — 2009-11-23 02:17:29Z

Very interesting.The people I'm related to had a son
that was returning to Lesvos to get married.
He needed a dowry and my father Edward Zaneto had
some land there.I believe my father gave them the land.
My grandfather Gus (Constantinous) had a brother Mike.

Re: Congerkalar/Congerkeller/Congerkallar

MichelleRees15 — 2009-11-22 20:18:04Z

Hi
Nice to hear you are related. Elizabeth was my great x3 grandmother and with the help of people in Australia and NZ we have been following her for quite awhile. As I mentioned she married a few times. I am interested that you say Sottero was buried with her as we thought that Robert Nelson was orignally Sottero and he died in 1936. So would love to hear more also what do you know of her husband Nicholas as we know very little about him. I am happy to swap any information with you. She has been a fascinating woman! I look forward to your reply.

Michelle

Re: Congerkalar/Congerkeller/Congerkallar

geordie9170 — 2009-11-22 12:45:59Z

this elizabeth is my great great grandma, Sottero is buried with her.

Re: Relatives of Gus Zanetos

athenamorrow1 — 2009-11-21 15:37:43Z

My grandfather was Spyros Zanetos, and, indeed
he owned a hat store, as you describe. I met him
in Greece in the 60's when he came back to
live with us. His son, Michael, lives in Dover, NJ.
I am in touch with that whole part of the family

Baltas in Muzakeon? near Athens

Leanne474 — 2009-11-20 16:25:34Z

According to a recently located naturalization paper, my great grandfather George Baltas was from Muzakeon, Greece. Unfortunately, the couple times he has written this on the form were badly fingerprinted, so I do not think I have the correct spelling - internet searches turn up no such place. Supposedly it was somewhere near Athens.

If anyone is aware of a location that might be correct, I would sure appreciate the help...

Re: SURNAME DRAKOS

Boogiedallas — 2009-11-19 17:19:18Z

Hello I am looking for my ancestors who hail from Lemnos. My grandfathers name was Haralambos Bougadellis......Any one have an idea?

Re: Razis family from Zante (Zakynthos)

spiroboneless — 2009-11-17 14:11:49Z

Hi Every body
im Spiro Razis...i live in Chile South America i live her with my family my father is from tsefalonia and he came here whith his father runing awy from the war...
well for all you to know..we are in south america and we are three brothers holding the name still

thanks

spiro

Re: Roussis

BSKTBTQUE1 — 2009-11-17 12:34:10Z

Hi

I too belong to a ROUSSOS family from Isari, Greece...please respond...hopefully, from the same line.

Thanks

Re: Roussis

BSKTBTQUE1 — 2009-11-17 12:31:38Z

Hi

I belong to the ROUSSOS family from Isari, Greece. You mention the name means - the Russian. Did your family originate from Russia? My father left behind a Russian Hero Pin and we cannot figure out how it was in his possession. No one in the family can explain it. We know it wasn't his but I feel it belonged to either his father or grandfather.

Hope you can elaborate.
Thanks

Re: AMELIAS, Ilia, Polponissos, GREECE

margarita07 — 2009-11-16 21:35:37Z

Amalias/Amaliada is not such a small village! Pop about 18,000. It is however a relatively new town as the municipality was established in 1885. Most of the people who came to live in Amaliada originated from mountain villages of Arcadia and Achaia. You can contact the Municipality for birth certificates but first you must find the original Greek name ( certainly not Carlton!). It seems that Savas is your ggrandfather's first name and not the surname. http://www.amaliada.gr/Default.aspx?tabid=299&language=e...

Re: Roussis, Philadelphia, PA

debrabailey3853 — 2009-11-16 21:23:13Z

Hi, I married a John Roussis in 1973. His grandfather was John J. Roussis from greece. My son's last name is Roussis too. To me this is a very uncommon name in the USA. I could hook you up with my ex-husband if you wanted more information.

AMELIAS, Ilia, Polponissos, GREECE

sandiswett — 2009-11-16 02:48:47Z

I have been told that my grandfather was a stowaway from Greece who changed his name on arrival. Because he died 3 months before my mother was born I have limited information. His name was NICHOLAS SAVA CARLTON. His death certificate gives his date of birth as MAY 2, 1893 with his parents names as SAVA and TACCY (CARTHINY) CARLTON. His WWII draft registeration lists his place of birth as AMALIAS,GREECE. It seems he arrived in the Worcester,Massachusetts area around 1920. I have been told that Amilias is a small village south of Athans so in 1893 it must have been a very, very small villiage. How many boys names Nicholas Sava could there have been born on May 2, 1893???? Please, can anyone help me!

Re: Vital records for the island of Syros

kenattwell — 2009-11-15 17:52:23Z

I belive that "Strong Man" Jack Lamnea originated from there, his great grand son Fredrick Clive Lamnea age 75, now lives in Swansea SA3 5RJ.

Kind egards, Ken.

Re: looking for greek birthmother

onenastyviper — 2009-11-15 11:43:51Z

hi Tony.
I know very little about my father's family.
My Father panayiotis koukoulas was born in Pireas in 1919.
his father was petros koukoulas (bork in Tinos?). Petros worked in the Greek railways?, and was married to Androniki who came to Pireas as a refugee from asia minor during the 1920's.
they had 4 children, Eleni,Thalia,Emilia and my father.
Petros also had a brother Nikos, who emmigrated to USA (Texas ?)sometime in the early 1900's.
I live in the UK with my grown family.
there are a lot of Koukoula's in the internet pages(contrary to what my father was claiming when he was alive)
thaank you for your message
kind regards
pk

Re: looking for greek birthmother

tonykoukoulas — 2009-11-15 04:21:33Z

My father was Nikolaos Koukoulas born in Tinos in 1900 and lived in Piraeus. He moved to Australia in 1924. I would be happy to share further information with you.

Re: looking for greek relatives

tonykoukoulas — 2009-11-15 04:17:28Z

Your message of 19 July 2008 refers to Australian connections including Koukoulas and Raptis.
My Father came to Australia in 1924 from his home in Piraeus. He was born in Tinos in 1900 where I have traced Koukoulas's back to the mid 1700s. Family ancestors include Raphtis/Raftos/Raptis. I would be happy to share details with you.

Re: search for John Notara c. 1900

BarbaraaCM — 2009-11-11 03:57:49Z

Hi Jeff and Amy,

It has been a long time since this post. John Notaras (Notoras) was my grandfather. Please contact me as we are greatly interested in any information you might have. Many thanks. Barbara

Re: Father of Louis, Gus and Peter pantages?

cmb229 — 2009-11-10 02:57:01Z

Please email me at carolball@optonline.net. I think I can give you some names and contact info to further your search.

Re: Father of Louis, Gus and Peter pantages?

apantages2 — 2009-11-09 12:05:05Z

No, I'm not. The only contact my husband has had is with his immediate family - parents and siblings.
We don't know the connections to any other pantages families at this point.

Re: Father of Louis, Gus and Peter pantages?

cmb229 — 2009-11-09 03:14:45Z

Are you in touch with the New Jersey Pantages?

Father of Louis, Gus and Peter pantages?

apantages2 — 2009-11-07 22:14:00Z

I am trying to find the father of Loius George, Gus and Peter Pantages. They all lived and worked in Akron, Ohio in 1030 per the census. they immigrated from greece prior to that. I understand they are from Kalamata originally, but have been unable to trace their father. Louis was born in 1898 and migrated in 1917. George Pantages of Cleveland, Ohio is Louis's son. I can't trace back past Louis though..
Any help is appreciated.

Re: Babilis, Christofilos, Georgoulos, Katsafanas, Marreas, Panagakis, Pantazopoulos (& variations), Trapalis

Georgia633 — 2009-11-06 18:15:18Z

Hi Angie

I see you posted an inquiry about the names Pantages and Pantazis. I found the following references to those names - not sure if they are relations, but thought I would pass on the information.

Pantages, Alexander - mentipned in book "Greek Americans - Struggle and Success"
Pantages, Alexander (Pericles) - mentioned in the book "The Greeks in the United States" by Theodore Saloutos
Pantazis, Anna - Age 12, arrived in Boston on SS Cambroman on April 25, 1903
Pantazis, Bill - mentioned in the book "All That Grief - Migrant Recollections of Greek Resistance to fascism 1941-1949"
Pantazis, M. - mentioned in book "Greece in the Nineteenth Century"

On this next one Pantazis is listed as the first name - Pantazis Dimoulis - mentioned in the book "Diaspora Merchants in the Black Sea - The Greeks in Southern Russia 1775-1861"

You can find more details on this information on my Greek genealogy website - http://HellenicGenealogyGeek.com

Good luck with your research
Georgia Keilman

Re: Babilis, Christofilos, Georgoulos, Katsafanas, Marreas, Panagakis, Pantazopoulos (& variations), Trapalis

apantages2 — 2009-11-06 14:54:50Z

My husbands family came from Greece. Currently they go by Pantages. I've traced them to Pantazis. Louis G Pantazis was my husbands grandfather. .He came from Mylitsa Greece. Born in 1898. It looks like he had a brother Gus and Peter.
If this links to you somehow, please let me know. We do not know much about his greek heritage and I am trying to track it down.
Thanks,
Angie

Re: PELEHOS family relatives, Karistos origin ?

margarita07 — 2009-11-04 21:48:37Z

Hello Kevin

the name Pelehos/Pilichos/Πηλιχός is still found in the area around Karystos, especially in Nea Styra. http://www.whitepages.gr/gr/default.aspx

Re: Greek army records

emdgp20 — 2009-11-03 12:32:55Z

Thanks for the advice. The information I am looking for is for several men that served in the first World War and the subsequent war in Turkey. This would be for the 1917-22 period. They were draftees, not carreer soldiers. I understand that one can write to the Army in Greece to request information regarding former soldiers but I have never heard of anyone that has. This information in the FHL is mostly for the XIX century as far as I can tell.

Re: karolos

Georgia633 — 2009-11-03 02:10:25Z

Interesting - I found a Karolos Papoulias (notice Karolos is the first name) in the book "Greece - The Modern Sequel; from 1831 to the Present" by John S. Koliopoulos and Thanos M. Veremis; published in 2002 by New York University Press.
If you are interested, contact your local library and they can probably get the book for you through the inter-library loan service.

Good luck with your Greek family genealogy research.

Georgia Keilman
http://HellenicGenealogyGeek.com
Check out my website for more resources on Greek genealogy research.

Re: Greek army records

Georgia633 — 2009-11-03 01:51:53Z

Hi -

I assume you are looking for historical military records. The LDS Family History Library has a collection of microfilms which include some Greek military records. You can reference my website at http://HellenicGenealogyGeek.com where these records are highlighted with appropriate links.

You can order a copy of any of the microfilms listed through a local Family History Center - for locations reference http://www.familysearch.org -- or ask your local library if they can order for you or advise another library in the area that can help you.

I have personally used some of these - have patience - make sure you can identify the name in Greek.

Good luck with your Greek family genealogy research.

Georgia Keilman
http://HellenicGenealogyGeek.com
Check out my website for more resources on Greek genealogy research.

Re: Kalafatis or kalafates in Icaria greece

Georgia633 — 2009-11-03 00:38:35Z

Hi everyone -

I notice there are quite a few people looking at the Kalafatis name. I am not sure this response will reach everyone, but I am replying to the last message in the thread - hope it works.

This information may be of interest to some of you.

The following Kalafatis names are mentioned in the book "Diaspora Merchants in the Black Sea - The Greeks in Southern Russia 1775-1861" by Vassilis Kardasis - published 2001 by Lexington Books, Lanham, Maryland, U.S.

Ch. Kalafatis
Demet. Kalafatis
Evstath Kalafatis
Steph. Kalafatis

I have found that local libraries are very helpful and can probably get the book for you through the inter-library loan service.

Good luck to all of you with your Greek family genealogy research.

Georgia Keilman
http://HellenicGenealogyGeek.com
Check out my website for more resources on Greek genealogy research.

Re: Salmas family links and origins

LostinUSA4evr — 2009-11-03 00:30:46Z

I was recently told that Salmas is not a Greek surname as it's origins are from Persia

Re: Kalithea: Where is it? Which one is it?

harbushka — 2009-11-02 13:59:58Z

Hello Georgia, Thanks so very much for the reference to this article. It is quite interesting, and I hope to be able to verify that this in fact is the Kalithea that I am searching for. My dear mother in law visited about 5 years ago, and was welcomed by long lost cousins who remembered her grandfather. She passed away in 2008, but her companion who traveled with her to the village is still living and I hope to show him this article to see if he recognizes this village. Thank you again for giving me this link, I appreciate your help.
Carol Harbushka in Arizona

Greek army records

emdgp20 — 2009-11-02 12:28:44Z

I would appreciate guidance from anyone that has requested information or records from the Greek Army. Thanks

karolos

missjoanne — 2009-11-02 10:47:15Z

looking for information on the karolos side of my family. they originated from methoni as far as i know, but know very little else about them. anyone on here recognize the name or can be of further help?

thanks!

looking for spyridakos information

missjoanne — 2009-11-02 10:44:44Z

researching my family history and would like to know if anyone has information for spyridakos from paliohori. someone told me spyridakos actually has spartan roots. can anyone verify this?

thanks!

Re: Salmas family links and origins

patalexandrou — 2009-11-02 01:16:34Z

I too am wondering the origins of this name? Is it a shorter vesion of some other name?