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Re: SIMMONS, Henry;1765-1809;NV>Ont. CAN>Prince Edward Co>Ameliasburgh

nancy_drew1973 — 2009-11-14 16:07:17Z

do you have any more info on the simmons children from this man? Specifically David?

thx.
Melissa

Re: Glenwood Cemetery, Picton

elainefarley199 — 2009-11-11 23:08:07Z

the Neil J. Carroll 1898 - 1955 is Cornelius James Carroll, my grandfather. His wife Edna Mahaila Reynolds Carroll, died in 1972.

RENEAUX/DENIS

mclaus123 — 2009-11-04 23:52:12Z

Searching for information on Joseph Reneaux of Hallowell Twp and Charlotte Denis Ernestown Twp who were married in Ernestown May 6 1811. Looking for descendants, death dates etc. Joseph and Charlotte were both born Lower Canada.

Thanks Mary

Re: Hannah Armstrong Wright

roots192 — 2009-10-24 03:47:50Z

Hi, I'm still looking. I hope that someone has some insight.
Thanks
Brian

Re: Unknown Ellis and Miriam Brooks

Andrew_Quackenbush — 2009-10-23 05:40:06Z

Hi Audrey,

Thanks for posting your Ellis and Brooks information. I'm glad there are a few of us working on this John Ellis as it gives me hope that one of us will figure out his ancestry someday. (If you already have done so since your last posting, please reply!)

I was interested to read your suggestion that John Ellis who married Fanny Collier and Ursula Burns may also have had three children by Mary Brooks. That hadn't occurred to me, and the dates do fit nicely. Since it would be unusual for someone to separate or divorce at that time, and it would also suggest that John Ellis migrated from PEC to Cramahe for the birth of son Benjamin and then back to PEC to marry Ursula, I'm holding out for the time being for a simpler solution.

Some of the information below that I've collected also appears in your posting, but I've arranged it geographically as a different approach to trying to fit in our John Ellis. I've not included all the descendants of the early Ellises in order to keep things simple, and I have deliberately tried to avoid information in internet genealogies that I haven't verified. Sources for primary documents are in parentheses. Let me know if you have any thoughts on this or can add/correct using primary sources.

Andrew

MARYSBURGH:
Group 1:
Andrew Ellis was on the Marysburgh muster roll 4 Oct 1784 (Pioneers of 5th Town) and was granted L8 C2 Marysburgh (The Settlement of Prince Edward County). A John Ellis was born about Feb 1790 (McDowall Register) in South Marysburgh (OVR death for John's son Frederick), and is probably the one who married Fanny Collier 12 Oct 1819 in Marysburgh (McDowall Register). He may be the same John Ellis who married Ursula Burns 2 May 1838 in Marysburgh (McDowall Register) and had children Hiram b abt July 1839 who married Emily Maria Welbanks, and Samuel b 1841 who married Catherine Empey. I have put Andrew Ellis UEL together with John Ellis b 1790 since they had property close together. John was at L10 C1 South Marysburgh at the mouth of the Black River in the Marysburgh 1861 census, and Andrew had been granted L8 C2. John died 20 Dec 1862 and was buried at Black Creek Church (Cemeteries of PEC by CLR Wanamaker). Our John Ellis doesn't seem to fit here unless we invoke your suggestion of a separation/divorce.

Group 2:
I have placed John Ellis born ~1813, husband of Jane French, as a brother to William H Ellis born March 1814, husband of Mary Jamison. John and William H were born too early to be children of John Ellis and Fanny Collier above, who were not married until 1819. The older John may have married prior to Fanny, but I haven't seen evidence of this yet. John Ellis b ~1813 was born in PEC (OVR death for daughter Mary) and married Jane French about 1835. I assume that the John Ellis who purchased the east half of L16 C1 Marysburgh on 26 Jun 1835 and the west half the following spring (PEC land deeds) was this John, as there does not seem to be another reasonable choice. Purchasing the land the same year he was married does seem logical. John and Jane had Frederick Ellis 29 Jan 1836 in South Marysburgh and had several other children, including Samuel b 14 Feb 1843, who had sons Horatio and Walter, unusual names that also appear as sons of William H. John and William H both having descendants named Horatio and Walter is one reason for placing John and William H as siblings. Another is that John and Jane had moved to Kaladar by 1861, and the property they left behind was occupied by William H Ellis until at least the publication of the 1878 Belden Atlas. Again, it does not seem that our John Ellis has a place here since Mary Brooks was born too late to be the mother of these brothers, and she could not have been this John's wife unless there was a divorce.

Group 3:
William Ellis born ~1823 who lived at South Bay married Phoebe Almira Mack and had at least seven children before dying in 1875. His birthplace is sometimes listed as Nova Scotia in the census, but is Ontario in others and once recorded as "N" crossed out and replaced with "O". The fact that he is listed next to a Brooks in the 1871 South Marysburgh census is a red herring, for that Brooks is the grandson of George Brooks, UEL, of Fredericksburgh, who cannot be the father of our Mary Brooks since he had a daughter Mary who was more than a decade older than ours.

Group 4:
M Ellis married Frances and had Elizabeth Ellis b 1838 in South Marysburgh (ancestry.ca marriages). Elizabeth married David Brown, b 1837. I don't know who this M Ellis is, but he may be connected to William Ellis in group 3 since their properties were walking distance apart on the south side of South Bay.

HALLOWELL (INCLUDING PICTON):
John Ellis, b ca1762 (Upper Canada Herald death notice) was probably born in the US. He was likely the same John who settled in Hallowell as a UEL (Loyalist List). He may have been the father of Rebecca Ellis, b ~1781 in NY State because Rebecca was in Hallowell at her first marriage in 1804 (McDowall register). She later lived in Hallowell just NE of Picton with her family. Her son James Ruttan later settled about 11 km away in Marysburgh near the Andrew Ellis property, so Andrew and Rebecca's father might have been related. The John Ellis who was in Hallowell in 1798 (property assessment roll) and again in 1811 when listed as a mason (petition for Prince Edward freemasonry lodge) is probably the one b ~1762 who died in Hallowell 25 Mar 1811 (Upper Canada Herald death notice). Perhaps the John Ellis b ~1803 who died 3 Jan 1833 at Hallowell (Hallowell Free Press 8 Jan 1833) is his son.

Internet genealogies have placed John Ellis b Feb 1790 in South Marysburgh as the son of John Ellis b ca1762 who settled in Hallowell. Perhaps this is true, but given that Marysburgh and Hallowell each had an Ellis loyalist, this father/son connection is not compelling. If it is false, then this leaves an opening for our John Ellis as the son of John b ca 1762, provided that the John Ellis above who died 1833 in Hallowell is not the son of John b ca1762.

AMELIASBURGH:
The earliest Ellises I know about were women and thus had no children with surname Ellis.
1808 - Catherine Ellis and husband Abraham Ruttan had son Joseph Ruttan baptised on July 23 (McDowell register)
1808 - Rachel Ellis and husband William Ruttan had son Jacob Ruttan baptised on Dec 29 (McDowell register)

HILLIER:
George Ellis b before 1785 arrived in PEC from New Brunswick, probably about 1808, already married with children. This George is an uncle of mine through another branch of the family, and I have investigated him thoroughly. This George already had a son John Dorland Ellis b abt 1821, leaving no room for our John Ellis.

FREDERICKSBURGH:
John Ellis and Hanna were in Fredericksburgh in 1796 at the baptism of son Joseph Ellis. Some have placed this John as the John b ca1762 of Hallowell, but I can't confirm this placement yet. If this is incorrect, our John could be of this family. Our John Ellis' son John b 1830 is listed as born Picton (the death record you located), and the census lists him as born "urban Ontario," so Picton is probably accurate. This would require our John to have moved from Fredericksburgh to Hallowell if he is a child of John and Hanna.

SIDNEY:
James Ellis and wife Catherine had John b 1807, Samuel b 1808, and James Gilbert Ellis b 1810, all baptised in Sidney Twp (McDowall register). James G appears in adjacent Murray Twp in 1851, but his brother John vanishes. I expect he is the John Ellis who died in Murray Twp in 1846 (Court Inquest Records located by Mary Chung and copied by Eleanor Burnett), and is therefore not our John.

There are other Ellises appearing on the Loyalist List, but I don't yet have information on where they settled. Some may have been in Picton or had descendants who moved there.

Regarding the Brooks of PEC...

1. The David Brooks b 1790 who married Catherine Delong and lived in Ameliasburgh is not related to our Mary Brooks because they were from the US and were still there for the birth of their first child, Jeremiah, about 1816, well after our Mary was born in Canada.
2. The John Brooks and Eve Kettle of Sophiasburgh are not the parents of our Mary b ~1807 since they had a Mary b 1812 who married Stephen Weeks.
3. The George Brooks b 1798 and David Brooks b 1804 were brothers, and children of George Brooks, UEL, of Fredericksburgh. George is my ancestor through a different line of my family, and I'm sure his daughter Mary is not ours because she was born before 1795.
4. The only Brooks in the county that I've noticed who might be promising is the Edward Brooks born in Picton in 1796 (OVR deaths). Since our John Ellis and Mary Brooks had a child born in Picton, Edward might be connected.

This analysis solves nothing, but it might help move us somewhere later.

Re: Scott/ Rorabeck Information needed

satch42179 — 2009-10-19 20:34:42Z

No connection. Just doing a lookup.

Re: Scott/ Rorabeck Information needed

arScott167 — 2009-10-19 19:53:45Z

Thank you so much. If I may ask, what is you connection to the scott rorabecks?

Re: William Case Benedict

benedictj1 — 2009-10-19 05:20:47Z

Most of the information on Rachel Bush was added by Susan R. into the GenealoWiki website. Contact me directly at webmaster@genealowiki.com for her email address.

Re: Scott/ Rorabeck Information needed

satch42179 — 2009-10-18 22:42:39Z

From Ancestry.ca

1861 census Athol Prince Edward County

SCOTT
James, 41,c 1820, Canada
Lyda, 34, c 1827, Canada
Elaxander, 12, c 1849, Can
Washentan, 8, c 1853, Can
Manda, 3, c 1858, Can

Living beside them is:
Peter Scott 24, Hariet 24, Manda 2. [Amanda died 1893]

1871 census Athol PE County
SCOTT
James, 48, Ont
Lydia, 43, Ont
Alexander, 22, Ont
Marshall W, 18, Ont
Amanda, 13, Ont

Marshall must be Washentan [Washington?]on 1861 census.

1881 census on www.familysearch.org

1881 census Athol
SCOTT
James, 59, Ont, farmer
Lydia,54, Ont
W Marshall, 28,
Ann Amanada, 18.

There is an Alexander Scott in Athol on 1881 census but I don't think he is yours as his children are too old.
There is also this one in Sophiasburg who I think is more likely your Alex J.

SCOTT
Alex J, 35, Ontario, farmer
Hannah, 28, Ont
Arthur, 4, Ont
Nina E, 1, Ont

Birth: Clayton Scott, b 16 Aug 1882, s/o Alex J Scott & Hannah Black, Sophiasburg PE County.

I am taking this as Alex's son mainly because the informant on his death registration was Mrs Clayton Scott who would be a daughter in law.

1891 census Sophiasburg PE County
SCOTT
Alexander J, 42, Ont
Hannah, 36
James A, 14
Nana E, 10
Clayton, 8,
All born Ontario.

Marriage: Clayton Scott, 28,living Gilbert's Mill, s/o Alexander J Scott & Hannah Black, married Hilda Henrietta Curlette, milliner, 16, d/o Randall Curlette [deceased] & Alice Amelia Carrnan/Carman, witn: Clarence R Denike of Green Point & Jessie W Chalmer of Conseco, 14 Dec 1910 at Sophiasburg, PE County. Registration # 019115.

Nina E Scott, parents as above, 26, married Charles Carter, 26 living Detroit USA, witn: Clayton Scott of Gilbert's Mills and Adina Carter of Phillipston, 10 July 1906, Gilberts Mill, Sophiasburg PE, Registration 017122.

James Arthur Scott, living Athol, parents as above, 21, farmer, married Ella Augusta Walston, 23, 22 Sept 1897, PE County.

1901 and 1911 census on www.automatedgenealogy.com

Birth released to 1909; marriages 1924; deaths 1935.

Death:
Alexander James Scott's registration I have given you.

Lydia Scott, b 16 Sept 1927, died 24 July 1911, housewife, widow, d/o Reuben Rorabeck b Albany NY & Catharine Kellar b N Marysburgh, informant: Thomas Rorabeck of Bethel, died of senility & chronic bronchitis. Picton PE County, Registration # 03?837.

James Scott, 30 Nov 1893, 72 yrs, of heart disease, informant: Alex Scott of Athol Tp.

Re: Scott/ Rorabeck Information needed

arScott167 — 2009-10-18 16:42:55Z

Thanks so much, any information on James Scott as mentioned above?

Anyone?

Re: Scott/ Rorabeck Information needed

satch42179 — 2009-10-18 06:55:00Z

From Ancestry.ca

Death:
Alexander Jas Scott, died 19 Dec 1916, b Athol, farmer, married, s/o James Scott & Lydia Rorabeck, informant: Mrs Clayton Scott of Demorestville.

Scott/ Rorabeck Information needed

arScott167 — 2009-10-17 22:03:43Z

Hello. I am trying to located information on Alexander J. (James) Scott 1849-1916. He is my great, great grandfather.

More specifically, I am trying to solidify his parents. I tthink they are James Scott and Lydia Rorabeck, but the documents I have are very hard to read. They were in the Demorestville/ Picton area.

Please help if you can.
Thanks,
Adam

Re: Cole Johnson

cherylkemptaber — 2009-10-16 02:56:58Z

In 1871, in the household of William Johnson & Sarah Jane were Levi & Isreal Cole:
1871 Ontario Census 59- Prince Edward Co., F- Sophiasburgh
William Johnson 41
Sarah Jane Johnson 23
Martha Jane Johnson 2
Henry Johnson 11m
Levi Cole 21
Isreal Cole 15

In 1861, Levi & Isreal were in the home of James Cole & Lavina:
1861 Ontario Census Dist 5 Sophiasburgh PE Co., pg. 65
James Cole 49 b. CW married (b. abt 1812)
Lavina Cole 43 b. CW married b. abt 1818)
William N. Cole 20 b. CW
Lonson? Cole 16 b. CW (this may be Lansing)
Sory J. Cole (f) 14 b. CW (**could this be Sary Jane= Sarah Jane?)
Henry L. Cole 11 b. CW (this is Levi as you will see later)
Samuel Cole 8 b. CW
Iserel Cole 6 b. CW
James A. Cole 2 b. CW

Based on the above, I found this marriage:
Christian Guardian 1836-1849, pg. 45 - 7 November 1838:
29th Oct., James Cole & Huldah Lavina Norton, both of Sophiasburg (Rev. Thomas Demorest)

Name: Hannah M. Cole
Birth Place: Sophiasburg Township
Residence: Hallowell
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Father Name: James Cole
Mother Name: Huldah L. Cole
Spouse Name: Henry Brandscomb
Spouse's Age: 33
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Spouse Birth Place: Hallowell
Spouse residence: Hallowell
Spouse Father Name: Henry Brandscomb
Spouse Mother Name: Lydia Brandscomb
Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1859
Marriage County: Prince Edward

James Cole b. abt 1859 Sophiasburgh married 12 Nov 1882 in Trenton, Hastings Co., to Alice Hutchinson

Name: H Levi Cole (Henry Levi), Widower
Birth Place: Gilbert Mills Pe Co
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Father Name: James Cole
Mother Name: Lavinia Norton
Spouse Name: Emma Palmatier
Spouse's Age: 33
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Spouse Birth Place: Demerestville
Spouse Father Name: Charlie Henry
Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Foshay
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1918
Marriage Place: Picton
Marriage County: Prince Edward

Levi Cole died in Sophiasburgh Tp., on Apr 18 1933; 85 yrs old, father - James Cole, mother- Miss Norton; Glenwood Cemetery (Picton) says 1847-1933

Cole Johnson

Peekfind — 2009-10-16 00:34:03Z

Sarh Jane Cole b. May 22 1848/49 died Sept20,1931 Picton.
Married to William Johnson had children Martha, Emma, Lottie, William John b. 1880 and Flora May.b. 1883. She died a widow. William being 20 years older than her. 1891 census for Sophiasburg she was living next door to Issac Nelson Cole b.1856 with his wife Etta Cordelia Graves Cole b.1859 and their family. Because of this proximity, I think she may been the daughter of Issac Cole senior and Sarah Jones. However her death certificate of 1931 give no info on it. Can anyone help me with this? Possible family trees of offspring or her gave site.? Thaks Janice.

Re: Welbanks,Thompson

debneale72 — 2009-10-14 13:41:06Z

I am a descendent of Peter Rose from Denbigh. I know he was married a second time after the death of his first wife Caroline. I do not know the name of his second wife but am wondering if this Louisa Welbanks who married a second time could be Grandpa Peters second wife. I would appreciate an email. My email is debneale72@hotmail.com It would be great if we could trade info, or at least determine if we are researching the same people.

Simon Isaac Cole 23 March 1734/35

colehouse1 — 2009-10-12 15:56:15Z

Hi .... was wondering if anyone knows the location of "this" farm located (I think) near Skenectady NY on Normans Kill... it at one time belonged to my GGGGrandfather; Simon Isaac Cool

UNITED EMPIRE LOYALISTS PROCEEDINGS OF LOYALIST COMMISSIONERS MONTREAL, 1788. VOL. XIV.
page 465
420. Evidence on the Claim of Simon Cole, of Normand's Kill, N. York. Claimt. Sworn: He is a native of America. Says he joined the British Army in 1777. Before that time he had lived at home. He at no time took part with the rebels & was in consequence obliged to fly. He lived some time in the woods Before he escaped to the British Army. After he came to Canada he was emploied in cutting Timber & making Stairs, and acted as cutter at Sorel. He now lives at the Bay of Quinty.

(below not a continuation of above)

120 acres near the Kelly Burgh, on a Lease forever from Ransellars Lands. He bought this in 1776 from John Freeman. He pd. £75 in Congress money. He cleared a considerable part of it. He values it £75 Cury. 120 acres adjoining he purchased in 1776 for £20 Cury., a Debt. 120 acres purchased in 1773, he gave £40 Cury., He made no improvts. after the purchase, £40 Cury. A Negro killed by the rebel Indians in a quarrell, £70. Another Negro taken by the Committee after he joined the B. Army, 40 Cury. Grain taken by the rebel Committee out of the Mills, 200 Skeple. Peas, 800 do Wheat, 4 Horses, 3 2-year olds, a Foal, a pair Bay Horses £75, 7 Head Cattle, 4 Calves, 11 Sheep, Hogs.

yeah, I know ...not asking too much ... appreciate any help

...bc

Shuter Bonter - 1800's, Ontario, Canada

jcarroll126 — 2009-10-12 08:52:57Z

There are two men named Shuter Bonter in the Hastings and Prince Edward counties records. One is the son of John Sylvanus Banta/Bonter (b. 1884 USA.) However, I am not certain which is which, nor do I know who the parents of the other one would be.

1. Shuter Bonter, b. 1821 Canada, m. Sarah Gordon 1847, lived in Trenton his whole adult life and was a merchant there. Died btw 1891 - 1901.

2. Shuter Bonter, b. 1838 Canada, m. Mary Unknown about 1858, lived in Ameliasburgh, was a hotel keeper, died 1876.

Anyone have any leads? At the moment I am looking for parents for #1 as I am inclined to feel that he is the one who is _not_ the son of John Sylvanus.

Re: Willet Dorland Insley m. Mahalia Dailey

inarra1 — 2009-10-07 12:48:19Z

My name is Inara Alksnis. My grandmother was Gertrude Hicks. Her mother was Elfreda Hicks, who married Herbert Insley. Herbert was your grandmothers(Alberta Mae) brother.

If you have any information about Herbert please contact me. Thank-you!

Re: Perrin

LindaSmithUE_2 — 2009-10-06 18:16:02Z

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Hedley Robert Perrin
Name: Hedley Robert Perrin
Birth Place: Canada
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Father Name: Thomas Perrin
Mother Name: Emma Perrin
Spouse Name: Addie May Woodrow
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Spouse Birth Place: Canada
Spouse Father Name: James Woodrow
Spouse Mother Name: Ellen Woodrow
Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1885
Marriage Place: Prince Edward
Marriage County: Prince Edward
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_51

Re: Perrin

ArtHubbs32 — 2009-09-30 00:05:25Z

Thanks !

I wondered where Hedley Perrin Welbnaks got his name.

Re: Perrin

satch42179 — 2009-09-29 11:02:19Z

From Ancestry.ca

Death:
Addie May Adams, b 12 Mar 1866, widowed, 66yrs1mos24days, d/o Jos Woodrow b Prince Edward County & Ellen Welbank b same, informant: Claire Maybee, daughter, of Kingston, burial: Cataraque, died 6 May 1932 of liver cancer. Kingston Registration # 015019.

Marriage:
Evelyn Claire Perrin, 31, b Montreal, living Hamilton, d/o Hedley R Perrin & Addie M Woodrow, married Horace Carleton Mabee, 37, Odessa, same, physician, 22 Apr 1918, witn: Addie M Adams of Hamilton & James Edmond Mabel of Odessa, Toronto Registration # 002370.

Marriage:
Hedley Robert Perrin, 25, b Canada, living Montreal, commercial trader, s/o Thomas & Emma Perrin married Addie May Woodrow, b Canada, living Hallowell, d/o James & Ellen Woodrow, 17 Dec 1885, Picton, PE County, # 010109.

Marriage: Millord Maybee, 35, b Kingston, living Odessa, medical doctor, s/o Benjamin & Sarah I Maybee, married Addie Perrin, 25, widow, d/o James & Ellen Woodrow, witn: Minnie Adams of Cherry Valley & John A Adams of Soo Michigan, 18 Mar 1891, Athol, Pr Ed County, # 010290.

1861 census Montreal

PERRIN
Thomas, 31, b Monmouth England
Emma, 28, b London England
Alice, 3, b Montreal
Hedley, 1, Montreal

1871 census Montreal

PERRIN
Thomas, 41, England, trader
Emma, 38, England
Harrie, 12,
Hedley, 11,
Kate, 7
Thomas, 5
Evelina, 2
Mary Connolly, 21, b Ireland, servant
Elizabeth Scally, 19, USA, servant

Children all born Quebec

1881 census Montreal
www.automatedgenealogy.com
Thomas Perrin 50
Emma Perrin 48
Alice Perrin 21
Hedley Perrin 20
Katie Perrin 17
Thomas Perrin 15
Eva Perrin 12
Beatrice Perrin 10
Harry Perrin 6

I don't see a death for Hedly Perrin but he obviously died between 1881 and 1891 but here is his baptism from Drouin Collection.

Hedley Robert son of Thomas Perrin of Montreal and of Emma Eastham,his wife, was born 27th May 1860 and was baptized on the 8th July of the same year. Sponsors Thomas Perrin,Emma Perrin, A M Slesner, Mary Jane Slesner?,
St Stephen's Anglican, Montreal Quebec.

From Ancestry.uk
1851 census St Anne Soho Middlesex

PERRIN
Thomas, 21, b Monmouth, drayer's assistant.
Looks like he is in a boarding house.

I don't see a Thomas Perrin b Monmouth on 1841 UK census.

Perrin

ArtHubbs32 — 2009-09-29 02:16:11Z

Seeking information on the first husband of Addie May Woodrow b. 1866 m. Millard Maybee 18 Mar 1891.
She was a widow named PERRIN with a daughter Claire Evelyn PERRIN b. 1889. Claire was the informant on her mother's death in Kingston and may have been adopted by Millard.
Sha remarried after Millard died.

Re: Dorus Brooks

rjs34 — 2009-09-26 21:32:39Z

Melissa was my great grand mother. Julius later married Louisa Jane Robertson who had eight more children.

All the people you mention are direct relatives of mine.

Re: 1861 census

renoqueen — 2009-09-22 11:14:19Z

"Old William" Graham was living in the home of his son James S. Graham and wife Louisa. We refer to him as "Old William" in our family as there is a grandson by the same name.
Parts of the 1851 census for PEC are missing so we have to jump ahead to 1861 in an attempt to find him. It doesn't appear that he owned property and we don't know if his wife stuck around (the rest of her family migrated from NY, just across Lake Ontario from PEC, on to Ohio. She might have ended up with them as there is a Margaret Sweet with a family member there who fits the age).
We can't find any other siblings for James. It's just a family that is stuck in time for that generation.

Re: 1861 census

satch42179 — 2009-09-22 05:19:24Z

There are 4 William Graham's on 1871 census in Northumberland. Which one is yours?
Date of birth? Son's name?

Re: 1861 census

satch42179 — 2009-09-22 00:26:18Z

You don't give much information so is this the Henry Graham you are looking for.

1861 census Prince Edward
GRAHAM
William H, 24, b Canada West
Mary, 24, CW

1861 census

renoqueen — 2009-09-21 22:35:05Z

Could anyone tell me if there is a complete census for this year?
I can't find my ancestor on the 1851 census (but then parts of it are lost) so my second best source looks like the 1861, if there is one.
Searching William Henry Graham (he does show on the 1871 census in Northumberland in his son's household)

Annie Haynes Smith

thenance333 — 2009-09-20 17:56:43Z

Looking for someone who has access to newspapers in Belleville. Looking for obituary for Annie Haynes Smith
4 Aug 1994.

Thank You

Nancy

Re: Cole/Badgely-Married In Demorestville,Prince Edward Co.Sophiasburgh In1849

Jo__C — 2009-09-18 07:09:39Z

Thank you for posting the previous excerpt!

It provides substantiating proof for the identification of Richard Davenport (chr Apr 19, 1768 - c1827) of Saugerties, Ulster county, NY USA and Sophiasburgh township, Prince Edward county, Ontario, Canada -- as the husband of Christiana Cole (chr Dec 13, 1767 - c1840).

Christiana Cole's father Simon Isaac Cole [Simon Cool] (chr Mar 23, 1734/5 - ?) owned property at Norman's Kill, Albany county, NY USA* before emigrating to Sophiasburgh township, Prince Edward county, Ontario Canada.

*According to Edwin Lackey's RootsWeb Family Tree at: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d... .

Re: William Case Benedict

whitejansen — 2009-09-13 17:15:12Z

I am looking for more information regarding William Case Benedicts first wife, Rachel H. Bush. Do you have your sources or copies of your sources? I believe that she is the sister my g-g-grandmother Eliza Maria. I would very much appreciate you sharing your sources on her. I have found a Feby Benedict, most likely William and Rachel's daughter living with Eliza and her husband in 1961.

Re: glenwood cemetery

cherylkemptaber — 2009-09-10 23:28:58Z

Glenwood Cemetery, Picton, Prince Edward County is searchable online:
http://www.glenwoodcemetery.ca/genealogical_research.asp
GREENE ARTHUR Section UG, Year of Death - 1960
GREENE FRANK Section M, Birth Year 1880 - Death Year 1954; Spouse SARAH
GREENE SARAH EMMA Section M, Birth Year 1882 - Death Year 1971; Spouse FRANK
GREENE MARGARET Section R Birth Year 1856 - Death Year 1924; Spouse- JOHN G.

Ontario Death Register #027173- Margaret Adelaide Greene, 67 yrs old, born Aug. 31 in Lennox & Addington County, Widow, died in Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, on 22 October 1924; parents - James Greene b. L&A County & Mary Jane Benn b. Napanee; son Frank Greene of Picton was the informant; burial Glenwood Cemetery (Please note - her maiden name was Graham, not Greene; parents- James Graham & Mary Jane Benn)

Ontario Death Register # 015416- John C. Green, 77 yrs old, Furniture Maker & Undertaker, born Canada, died in Prince Edward County on June 3, 1894.

http://davidansley.com/family/getperson.php?personID=I1135&a...
This site says that Margaret was John Cameron Green's "second" wife. John Cameron Green was shown as being christened in Kingston, Ontario, on 14 Aug 1814 & died in Picton on June 3, 1894; burial Glenwood Cemetery. His first wife is shown as being Eliza Ann Mallory 1825-1908.
Children from both marriages are shown.

http://davidansley.com/family/showmedia.php?mediaID=196&...
Mrs. Margaret Green passed away at her home in Picton October 22, after a lengthy illness. Although her illness extended over quite a lengthy period, she bore it all with patience, fortitude, and uncomplaining even unto the end. the remains were laid to rest in Glenwood Cemetery on Saturday afternoon. Deceased was aged sixty-seven years. Five children, three sons and two daughers, are left to mourn. They are: Frank and Arthur Green, Picton; Malley, of Point Anne; Mrs. Maud Palmatier of Belleville, and Mrs. John Ruttan, Watertown. Three sisters and two brothers also mourn the demise of a beloved sister, Edward Graham, Napanee; James Graham, Westport; Mrs. N. VanAlstyne, Napanee; Mrs. J. Gates and Mrs. J Fields, Gretna

Re: glenwood cemetery

satch42179 — 2009-09-09 20:10:37Z

All information from Ancestry.ca unless otherwise stated

Marriage:
Frank Cameron Green, 25, b Picton ,living Napaneee, s/o John C Green & Adelaide Graham married Emma Reynolds,b Wellington, living Picton, d/o Elias Reynolds & Mary Clarke, 23, 7 Jun 1905 Prince Edward County. Registration # 016813.

So Frank was born c 1880.
Another son Mac Royal was born around 1886. According to a son's birth registration his name was Malcolm Royal Green.

Death:
John C Green, 77, died 3 June 1894, furniture maker & undertaker, b Canada, Prince Edward County, Registration # 015413.
He seems too old to have had children in the 1880s.

The only Malcolm Green listed on 1891 census in PE is with a John C and mother Eliza Ann.
Neither John Green in PE is yours.

I cannot find John Cameron and Adelaide on any census.
1881 census on www.familysearch.org
1901 and 1911 on www.automatedgenealogy.com

glenwood cemetery

southofseven — 2009-09-09 15:03:04Z

I am looking for a John Cameron Green and a Margaret Adelaide Green. I am just trying to fugure out what year they born and when they died thank you

Re: Cole/Badgely-Married In Demorestville,Prince Edward Co.Sophiasburgh In1849

thedewar — 2009-09-06 22:46:37Z

Trying to pinpoint the described property using the early census's. Can't find any old maps as yet.

HISTORY OF SAUGERTIES
1660-1825

BY
BENJAMIN MYER BRINK
KINGSTON, N. Y.
H. W. ANDERSON & SON

1902
http://www.archive.org/stream/earlyhistoryofsa02brin/earlyhi...

This starting the middle of page 79:

On the east side of the Old Kings Road
resides Richard Davenport. His land stretches
from the road from the stone church leading
to West Camp all the way south to where, in
1900, will be the hotel of Jacob Kaufman and
his dwelling is here where Ephraim I. Myer
will long afterwards live. The Davenports
will be Tories in the Revolution and when the
cause of England will be wiped out in patri-
otic blood they will find more congenial neigh-
bors in Canada, and his tract will be divided
into three or more farms. The homestead
will be owned by Jonathan Myer, who will
conduct a tavern here. When he dies, about
1814, his widow will marry Elias Snyder,
whom the Indians in 1780 will capture and
carry to Canada, and who will escape from
captivity. In 1823 Elias Snyder will sell the
farm to John Snyder Myer, the father of
Ephraim I. Myer. Adjoining the Davenport
tract on the south is the small place of Cor-
nelius Osterhoudt which will soon pass to the

80 HISTORY OF SAUGERTIES.

Fieros, and will for over a century be a tavern,
and on the death of Mrs. Mary Fiero, in 1854,
be successively conducted by Vander Beck,
Gaddis, Bostwick and Jacob Kaufman.

Re: Corey Spencer

ichome1 — 2009-09-02 21:03:11Z

thanks for the information. I know about Thomas and Ruth, but looking more about Corey & Matilda Spencer's children and forward. I have quite a bit of informtion on Corey and Matilda if anyone needs it. thanks again.

Re: Corey Spencer

ArtHubbs32 — 2009-09-02 05:40:40Z

DESCENDANTS OF JOSIAH BULL Jr. Vol. I
Corey Spencer
His parents Thomas ans Ruth Waight Spencer

Matilda Bull
parents:
Josiah Bull Jr.
Mehetabel Thomas

grand parents:
Josiah Bull Sr.
Ruth Tripp

John Thomas
Sarah Gifford

Corey Spencer

ichome1 — 2009-09-01 21:18:36Z

Looking for ancestors of Corey Spencer born Feb 28, 1760 and Matilda Bull born July 5, 1771. Karen

Re: Roblin and Mastin

nbrooks2 — 2009-08-28 12:34:34Z

The Titus E Leavens that dies in 1907 is the one that married Sarah Cunningham. It is his father that probably died in 1858 and why they live with his sister(Harriet Leavens) and husband(Riley Mastin) in 1861. Now I dont know this but there was obviously another Harriet Mastin maybe or could it be another name(I have 4 Harriet's in my tree but all are accounted for. Both married Hicks. One b 1799 and the other 1818). Just going by the marriage records of his parents names.

I always had that Harriet Sutton as the wife of William R but that was obviously wrong in the end and now corrected. William R parents are John and Elizabeth Knapp. They are part of the Mastin family that came to PEC late 1700's with 4 brothers and 2 sisters at least. Johns parents is probably Aaron Mastin and Rebecca Viele from Dutchess Co.

Re: Williamson

BettyWebster44 — 2009-08-26 13:07:02Z

Thanks so much - I found the database. It's great.
I probably won't need to bother you for the info now; but I certainly appreciate all your assistance.
Betty

Re: The Haight family of Prince Edward co.

cutterla — 2009-08-25 01:14:39Z

I very sorry this is so delayed. Michael passed away last May and I do not have the resources for his family tree to answer your questions. Paul

Re: Minaker

yukontina — 2009-08-24 01:59:54Z

Edward Glendon Minaker birth register
states his parents as Edward Arthur Minaker and Eva Edna Pender.

Gladys Werden married to William Hallett states her parents as Robert Werden and Sarah Wall.

Re: Williamson

ArtHubbs32 — 2009-08-23 20:57:19Z

Betty,
The Glenwood Cemetery records are online (not just the names)but this service rejects my messsage about them. Please e mail me at stephenkentcomer@earthlink.net

Re: Williamson

BettyWebster44 — 2009-08-23 20:11:22Z

Thanks so very much Art for all your assistance.
Betty

Re: Williamson

ArtHubbs32 — 2009-08-23 02:42:19Z

DESCENDANTS OF JOSIAH BULL Jr. - Mary E.Young

Charles Henry Saylor and (2) Mary Elizabeth Williamson married 25 July 1888 in Hallowell Township by John A. Jewell B.A., in the presence of William Williamson and Rebecca Wilson.
Mary, the daughter of Robert R. Williamson (1830-1887)and Rachel "Jane" Carr (1836-1925), was born 20 December 1856 in Hallowell Township and died 21 May 1896 at Bloomfield at the age of 39 yrs., 5 mos. leaving a baby daughter. Mary was a teacher before her marriage, and was of Irish descent. She was buried in Glenwood Cemetry in the Charles H. Saylor plot. The daughter: Marion Jane Saylor, born 2 February 1895, died 27 Oct 1988, buried in Glenwood Cemetery.
spouse: Norman James Nixon 7 Sep. 1890-27 Oct. 1980

Charles Henry Saylor was a grand son of Charles H. Saylor and Jemima Hubbs

Re: Williamson

ArtHubbs32 — 2009-08-23 01:56:45Z

Randy Saylor has the family of Charles Henry Saylor at Rootsweb.com
Charles Henry Saylor12 Nov 1854-14 Aug 1936
Wives:
Sarah Jane Kelly 1858-Mar 9 1885
Mary E. Williamson 1856-21 May 1896 Died of consumption
Mary Emily Yarwood 1864-1951

Re: Williamson

BettyWebster44 — 2009-08-22 20:23:23Z

Hello again Art ... would you be able to look up the following entries in the Glenwood transcript for me. I am so thrilled I've found two ladies that are also working on the "Williamson" family tree and all of your transcripts have been very helpful.

SAYLOR, Charles Henry (h/o Mary E. Norwood)(or Yarwood)
SAYLOR, Charles Henry (h/o Mary E. Williamson)
SAYLOR, Charles Henry (h/o Sarah J. Kelley)
BUT .... there is also
SAYLOR, Martha J.

thanks.
Betty

Re: Williamson

BettyWebster44 — 2009-08-22 02:14:41Z

Thanks so much Art for all your information. I now also see that the Picton cemetery is on-line in the OCFA and it is a great help. I'm sorry that it is not a database that provides dates, but that inital info shows you where to look.
Betty

Jacob Moon - living in PEC in 1834 ?

jcarroll126 — 2009-08-19 10:13:47Z

In 1834 there was a court case involving John Moon of Rossmore, who had been assaulted by a small group of men. The witnesses for him were Jacob Bonter (his father-in-law) and a Jacob Moon. John had a son Jacob, but he wasn't even born at this time, and - as far as I have seen - no one has ever found that he had a brother named Jacob.

I am presuming that in order to testify in court that this Jacob would have had to have been at least sixteen, and probably older. I have looked for Jacob Moon, born 1804 give or take five years and have found no one in the records available online.

My inclination is to think that he was a relative living near/with John Moon, but I am totally unaware of any adult Jacob Moon associated with this family at this particular point.

Obviously he could have died before the mid-19th century when public records become more available. And as records in the early 19th century are scarce I am thinking that someone in this forum may have some help or ideas.

Minaker

ArtHubbs32 — 2009-08-19 05:46:14Z

Seeking information on Edward Glendon MINAKER

THE MINAKERS OF MARYSBURGH
Ed. Glendon Minaker b. Feb. 28 1904 marrried 1925 Beatirice Irene Hallett b. 15 Mar. 1980 (sic)
She was the daughter of William Hallet and Gladys Irene Werden. Glendon lived in Picton and was musically inclined.

APPENDIX TO THE MINAKERS OF MARYSBURGH
Ed. Glendon Minaker b.29 Feb. 1904 married 20 Dec 1925 Beatrice Irene Hallett b. 15 Mar 1890, d. 9 Sep 1972
She was the daughter of Robert and Sarah Werden and the widow of William Hallett.
(William Hallett was a widower when he maried Gladys Irene Werden April 11 1906)

OCFA says his wife was GLADYS Irene Werden.

Doug Norman says his wife was Irene, dauggter of Wellington Canniff.

Re: Henry & Mary Morrison, Prince Edward County, Ont. Canada

rieverlass — 2009-08-18 21:41:23Z

Hi Dave, Could you tell me what Irwin connects to your lines? My gg Robert and Elizabeth Irwin where also in Hillier Prince Edward County from about 1850 till they died 1897 &1899.
Did one of your other's marry a male Irwin? I have two of the boys I can't find.
thanks Linda