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Tom Rodriguez  (View posts) Posted: 7 Dec 2002 6:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Chavana, Enriquez, Gonzalez & Rodriguez
I have a considerable database on Chavana from Lampazos, NL and many from Coahuila; would like to compare notes with anyone interested.. I'm also interested in Enriquez, Gonzalez & Rodriguez.

If you send me an outline of your ancestor there is a fair possibility for a match. My database goes back to the origins of the Chavana name in Lampazos, NL - in the 1700s.

Tom Rodriguez
rodrigt501@hotmail.com

Re: Chavana from Lampazos, NL & Coahuila

Tomas Rodriguez  (View posts) Posted: 8 Dec 2002 9:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Here is an outline of the info I have on Chavana birth/marriage in Coahuila; I would be glad to send it to anyone interested (GED and/or PDF tree).

1- I have a cluster of 11 Chavanas plus three wives (Buentello, Canales & Tames). The youngest generation (b: 1931-41) includes: Evangelina del Rosario, Gloria Herlinda, Maria Ignacia, Tomasa, Felipe de Jesus, Dolores Auria, Maria Veronica & Graciela. Three prior generations are Felipe Chavana (b: 1908), Tomas Chavana and Antonio Chavana. I am in contact with a younger member of that family group, exploring connection to my Chavana ancestors.

2- Some Chavana from Lampazos were married in Coahuila, e.g. Josefa Gertrudis Chavana (m:1785) to Francisco Cayetano de Hoyos in Monclova. Marbla Polinaria Chavana (m:1804) to Josef Joaquin de Hoyos. Juana Chavana (m:1879) to Pedro lozano in Candela, Coah. Maria Josefa Chavana (m:1792) to Pedro Jose de la Gandara. Another Ma. Josefa (m:1799) to Juan Jose Hollos/Hoyos. Yet another Maria Josefa (m: 1788) to Pedro Josef Ursua.

I would appreciate a copy of your Chavana information, so that I can seek them in my database (e.g. I have many other Chavanas but without information on the location of the birth/marriage.

Tom Rodriguez
rodrigt501@hotmail.com

Chavana from Lampazos, NL & Coahuila - Origin of name

Tomas Rodriguez  (View posts) Posted: 9 Dec 2002 4:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
My Chavana roots are from Lampazos, NL, Mexico. I am researching the Chavana surname in Northeast Mexico & Southeastern US and would like to contact others with the same interest. My purpose is to make this information freely available to anyone interested in the Chavana lineage.

Currently I have information on some 200 Chavana individuals from the 1700s to early 1900s. Their locations are Nuevo Leon & Coahuila in Mexico and Texas, Louisiana & Alabama in the United States. Someone who knows their Chavana grandparent relations may rapidly find more ancestors in the information I have accumulated.

Growing up (in Monterrey) I was told the Chavana name came from a French soldier - did you hear a similar story? (Ahi se perdio un regimiento Frances!) At first I thought it was from the French invasion of Mexico (Maximiliano), but that was in the 1860s and there is overwhelming evidence that Chavana were already in Lampazos since the 1700s. Now what?

A web search easily reveals the Chavana surname in France; it is also the name of places in Asturias (Spain) and Italy. I was told that Chavana was probably a derivation of Chavanne (and there are more than a dozen similar names). On a much broader search I found a reference about `a famous sage Chavana` in the legends of India; Chavana is very common surname in India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Madagascar, etc. Since so many people from those areas have migrated to Europe, especially from India to the UK - now what? If you meet another Chavana elsewhere in the world, do you have common roots? Not necessarily.

Let`s get back to our geographical area of interest. A Chavana cousin in Monterrey has been digging through the historic archives and has indeed found indisputable proof of the evolution of a French surname over to Chavana - in Lampazos, mid 1700s!

Among other sources, a history book of that era (Apellidos de Tamaulipas, Nuevo Leon y Coahuila) clearly states that Miguel Chauvain, from Limoursin (Limoges) France, left in 1735 as a French soldier toward the invasion of Louisiana. He arrived in New Orleans, said to have deserted, and went to settle in Lampazos! This and many other, better records describe that he married Catharina de Leon, granddaughter of Fernando de Leon - a Spanish explorer who made several expeditions to Louisiana in the late 1600s. Explicit mention is made of several of their children and respective spouses; amazingly, some of that information is corroborated by searching the remarkable genealogy database of the Church of the Latter Saints (Mormons) in Salt Lake City, Utah (www.familysearch.com). Miguel Chauvain is my ancestor.

Chauvain (Chauvin?), when spoken in French it sounds like `shavaan` (or similar) to someone who speaks Spanish. Miguel is listed in the archives of various localities around Lampazos as Miguel Saban; his earlier children were registered as Saban and later children as Chavana. This marks the evolution of a French name over to Chavana in this area; the legend is true, it was a French soldier! By the way, in this search process there are numerous instances of the same individual being registered in one record as Chavana and Chaban or Chabana in the next record; therefore they are synonymous - consider the low level of literacy in those days and thus phonetic spelling. Miguel and Catharina de Leon had 9 children; later he married Antonia Margarita Peres and had three more children. My Chavana from Lampazos hail to Jose Antonio Chavana (son of Miguel & Catharina), born in Lampazos on June 27, 1767; he married Maria Manuela Rodriguez in Lampazos on Oct 7, 1788. (Since then, there are several instances of intermarriage between Chavana and Rodriguez.)

For anyone from Northeast Texas and onto Louisiana and Alabama, there is a well documented Ramon Chavana, (born in Lampazos, 1776) who was the son of Miguel and Catharina. He married Maria Josefa Sanchez in Nacogdoches, TX. Their 13 children were born in Nacogdoches and Natchitoches, LA.

While travel was not easy in those days, especially with Indian raids, it is interesting to note that the Camino Real from Mexico City to New Mexico passed through Monclova, Coahuila (near Lampazos). From Monclova there was a branch of the Camino Real that went to Natchitoches, LA.

In my Lampazos roots, after my grandfather Juan Rodriguez died in 1895 my grandmother Librada Chavana migrated from Lampazos to San Antonio, TX around 1905. Librada was the daughter of Cayetano Chavana (born in 1827) and Josefa Gonzalez; they married in 1849. Librada`s heritage goes back to Miguel Chauvain and Catharina de Leon. An important gap in my information is about the Chavana and Rodriguez that remained in Lampazos around 1900. Can anyone fill in the blanks?

As mentioned above, someone who knows their Chavana grandparent relations may rapidly find more ancestors in the information I have accumulated. My priority is to make contact with others who have been working on their Chavana family tree; I am especially interested in Chavana and Rodriguez from Lampazos, but also Enriquez & Gonzalez. I offer to help others find their roots, but please note that my information only reaches up to the early 1900s - thereafter I have concentrated only on my immediate family.

Viva a los Chavana!

Tomás Rodríguez
rodrigt501@hotmail.com

Re: Chavana from Lampazos, NL & Coahuila - BINGO!

Tomas Rodriguez  (View posts) Posted: 9 Dec 2002 5:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Patricia,

Or should I say "hola prima"? Your Josefa Gertrudis Chavana (b: October 29, 1753) was the sister of my Jose Antonio Chavana (b: June 25, 1767); their father Miguel Chauvain (b: 1719 in Limorsin/Limoges, France) is the ORIGIN OF THE CHAVANA NAME IN LAMPAZOS, NL! Chauvain (sounds like shhavan in French) was transformed into Saban, Chaban, Chabana/Chavana, well documented! I have the names of his parents. For his wife wife Catharina de Leon (b: 1737 & m: 1751 in Lampazos - yes, married at 14 years of age, well documented) I have information on four prior generations - including the notable Alonso de Leon(s - father & son) - notable Spanish chronologist and explorer, one of them governor of the Nuevo Reyno de Leon in 1687. The credit for this earlier Chavana information goes to a prima who is like Sherlock Holmes going through the historical archives of Monterrey! For the benefit of others I am posting this on the forum and sending files to your email address. I will also post/send a one page outline on the origin of the Chavana name in Lampazos - my cousin is preparing a well documented write-up.

The information in your message has served to make several updates to my database; thanks, it helps consolidate Chavana information that I freely offer to anyone interested. Please review the files I am sending to your email address and alert me of any updates/corrections I should make!

I have two questions form your message:

1 - Re: Maria Polinaria Chavana, daughter of Miguel & Maria Gertrudis Chavana, married (1804) to Joaquin de Hoyos Gil de Leiba (b:1709). I don?t have any record of this Miguel Chavana; what is Maria Gertrudis' maiden name - please send all info.

2 - Re: Maria Josefa Chavana Echevarria, daughter of Pedro Chavana Gandara and Maria Josefa Echevarria. What I have are smaller pieces of this puzzle - please send all info.

Tomas Rodriguez
rodrigt501@hotmail.com
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Elsewhere on this forum ppulles@cox.net wrote:

Hi Tom,
My great-great-great grandmother, María Catarina de Hoyos Chavana, born c. 1796 (married to José Manuel de la Fuente) was the daughter of Francisco Cayetano de Hoyos and Josefa Gertrudis Chavana, who you mention in your message. I located the christening record for Catarina, but nothing on her marriage or José Manuel, or her parents. Francisco Cayetano and Josefa Gertrudis are found in the 1823 Hacienda de Castaños (Coahuila) census, living next to José Manuel de la Fuente and family. I have María Polinaria Chavana, daughter of Miguel & María Gertrudis Chavana, married to José Joaquín de Hoyos Gil de Leiba. I have María Josefa Chavana Echevarría, daughter of Pedro Chavana Gandara and María Josefa Echevarría, who married Juan José de Hoyos Sánchez. I have María Josefa Chavana married to Pedro José de la Gandara. Do you have any information placing Josefa Gertrudis Chavana in Lampazos? You can e-mail me at ppulles@cox.net
Thank you,
Patricia

Re: Chavana from Lampazos, NL & Coahuila - Origin of name

mkenning321  (View posts) Posted: 5 Sep 2009 9:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: florenco
my mothers maiden name was chavana and she only knew her dad
was told he came from spain with a brother and maybe a
sister ,but the brother stayed in mexico have no name,this
took place in the late 1800's my grandfathers name florenco
chavana married in new brunfels tx in 1913 where my mother
was born in 1914.thank you ,Mary

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