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Re: searching for information about family from Nadadores, Coahuila

HHRuiz — 2009-11-28 19:55:36Z

Hi Stephanie, Saw your posting mentioning Nadadores, Coahuila. My mother and her family with the above mentioned surnames are from Nadadores. You mention you have pictures and I am curious to know if any of the pictures are of Nadadores it self. If they are would you be willing to post them.

HRuiz

Re: searching for information about family from Nadadores, Coahuila

HHRuiz — 2009-11-28 19:55:33Z

Re: searching for information about family from Nadadores, Coahuila

harrissn1 — 2009-11-27 15:48:30Z

Jose,

That is exactly right. I would love to see all the research you have gathered. I was just with my de la Fuente family yesterday for the Thanksgiving holiday, and I was telling them the information that I have found out. They were all very excited to see what I found out and they would love to know more. My Grandfather, John David de la Fuente, says that he has some old pictures of the family that he is going to show me. I am going to try to scan the pictures to my computer and I can send them to you if you would like. My e-mail is harrissn@gmail.com. I really appreciate all the work you have put into our family geneology.

Thanks,
Stephanie

Re: searching for information about family from Nadadores, Coahuila

JoseHumberto_SuarezVillarreal — 2009-11-27 01:17:03Z

Hi Stephanie:

Ok, I have made the connection, you are daughter of my third cousin Silvia de la Fuente Rodriguez and her husband Tymothy Dean Harris, grand-daughter of my uncle John David de la Fuente Bruff and Andrea Rodriguez de la Cruz and great-grand daughter of my great-uncle Juan Antonio de la Fuente Rodriguez and Rachel Bruff. Juan Antonio and my great-grandmother Guadalupe were brothers. I have been working on de la Fuente family genealogy since 1992 and can directly trace if to its begginings in Mexico with Captain Domingo de la Fuente circa 1600.

Glad to made contact with you and happily I'll send you all the family information. My email is josehumbertosuarez@hotmail.com

Best regards
José Humberto Suárez Villarreal

De la Fuentes from Coahuila

harrissn1 — 2009-11-25 17:36:24Z

Does anyone have information on the De la Fuentes from Coahuila Mexico? I have been able to trace back to my great great grandfather, Jose David De la Fuente, born in Nadadores Coahuila around 1865. I am having trouble finding information past him. Please help if you have any information.

Thanks,
Stephanie

Re: searching for information about family from Nadadores, Coahuila

harrissn1 — 2009-11-25 16:58:05Z

Jose,

I think we may be related somehow. I am researching the de la Fuente as well. My grandfather is John David De la Fuente (still living), and his father is Juan Antonio Delafuente. I believe that Juan Antonio was Guadalupe's brother, as his parents are Jose David De La Fuente and Ecliceria Rodriguez. I haven't been able to trace back any further than that. Do you have any information that could help me out?

Stephanie

Re: Muzquiz Decendants

Geneology_Hound — 2009-11-13 03:45:19Z

We are at least distantly related. Contact me.

I recently made contact with a Muzquiz relative . .. maybe its you!

For Eusebia Lombraña just today I got that her father was Geronimo Lombraña and her mother was Maria Apolonia Arce (died in 1929)

Please get in touch. Thanks.

Re: CARRANZA

DadStarkweather — 2009-10-29 03:29:44Z

I am looking for any information on my grandfather Federico Cardenas born 24 Nov 1898-99 in Saltillo, Mexico. On his application for permanent resident a Gudelia Carransa is his Mexico contact. His fathers name is Pablo Cardenas, his mother's name is Maria Silviana Gudelia Rodriguez. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-22 12:07:02Z

Actually, I'm not a reasearcher at all.... or even a very good genealogist! I just was intrigued by the history of Torreon (and northern Mexico) when I moved here almost six years ago and have read everything I can find on the area. Also... just got a notice about new church records for Coahuila, Mexico uploaded on this site. Again, a stretch... but maybe it can help.... (if the link doesn't work, it's new Catholic church records for the state of Coahuila, Mexico for the years 1627-1978

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#...

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-10-19 18:57:00Z

Are you a researcher?

You know more than most professionals. I've worked with the top expert on Indians in Texas and Coahuila here in Los Angeles, but you know more than him.

If you know a good researcher in the Parras/San Nicolas area, please let me know.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-19 16:36:35Z

Wow... sorry to hear that the Texas archives have not been helpful.... from looking for other information, it always appeared that they had a treasure trove. I wonder if you can find a Texas resident who could help? There is a wonderful hotel/restaurant in Parras (plus a resort type place) and I think you would greatly enjoy visiting. Of course, then there are the wineries and historic churches, etc. Being bilingual you should have no trouble with at least speaking with someone at the archives there...maybe that will be the best way to go! Perhaps sharing how your great grandfather (with family roots in Parras) went on to "fame and fortune" would encourage a bit more cooperation. Most towns anywhere in the world like to claim "famous sons"... even if that "son" is actually three or four generations removed. Good luck on your search!

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-10-19 16:28:16Z

I'm bilingual.
The Texas Archives have proven useless. Only Texans have full access to their services, and I'm in California.
The head of the Coahuila Archives promised to look it up for me, but that was years ago, and no results.

I do want to visit Coahuila. See Parras, San Nicolas, Rio Nuevo.

The other baptismal records preceding, and following my ancestor's list both parents. But it's no mistake, it is clearly an intentional omission.

Odd that the priest would name the witnesses and their hometown, but provide scant information on the parents. The parents were probably also from San Nicolas. Their son, and grandson remained in Parras all their lives.

Their great grandson, Jose Mateo Ramirez, finally moved north to Texas in the mid 1870s. I know Jose Mateo and bride Maria Silvestra Romo Ybarra from Rio Nuevo settled in Brownsville with their baby, Victoriano Ramirez Romo.

My great grandfather, Victoriano went on to be fluent in seven languages, owned several pharmacies, and invented what is now Vaseline Petroleum Jelly.

Thanks for all your help:)

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-19 15:58:35Z

Hmmm.... I would check that link to the Texas Archives and see if there might be any records (or personnel) there that would help you. Many records for northern Mexico are actually located in Texas, and since you can do your searching in English there (or at least talk/write to someone in English), you might be able to at least figure out if something might be available. If that fails, then I would try to find a researcher located in Coahuila who might be able to check those Parras archives for you. Of course, as you can gather, besides the destruction that happened during the Mexican revolution, there were numerous situations that might also contribute to lost records -- burned churches, Catholic orders or priests dismissed or moved, etc., etc. Or, if you're the adventurous type, a trip to Parras yourself might be in order! It really is an interesting small city in northern Mexico with loads of history. The book that I referenced about the Rio Grande actually gives a quite good picture of what a priest's life in northern Mexico/current US southwest was like, so you might want to look through that to get a better idea of why the records might be scarce/non-existant. But, just when you think there wouldn't be records, one might turn up. So, I wouldn't give up all hope -- just might take a bit of time and digging....

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-10-19 15:49:40Z

Is there any way to find out Razo's full name?

Since both parents are listed in the May 4, 1796 baptismal record of their son, Jose Ascension Ramirez, it is reasonable to infer that they were indeed married.

But I haven't been able to locate a marriage record.

Nor records of any additional births that might have Razo's full name.

I think you have eliminated the possibility that Razo and Juan Ysidro Ramirez were Tlaxcallans, as those were not hostile Indians at the time.

I would think that Lipan Indian vital records are scarce.

Re: Cordero family

scribnerje — 2009-10-19 15:29:27Z

We attempting to locate more people who are related to the Venzors, Pablo and Natalia. It is our belief that the head of our family, one Pedro Benzor is the brother and twin of Pablo Venzor. We are not sure why the surnames were different here in the US but we are attempting to figure that out.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-19 15:23:33Z

No problem.... I have a couple of really, really tough genealogical roadblocks and someday I hope I'll find someone who holds the key. So, I figure if I know how much I need that "someone", if I can be that "someone" for another person, I'm more than happy to do so.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-10-19 15:17:15Z

You hope this helps?

It's a home run! Much more information than I ever expected to glean.

I agree completely with your theory, and conclusions.

I'm amazed you tracked down San Nicolas, and tied it all together.

I deeply appreciate your hard work:)

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-19 00:49:50Z

On to the topic of "Indians" and others' views of them:

Although the priest could have been "anti-female," it might be more likely that he was not particularly disposed toward some of the native peoples..."

Again, from Wislizenus' book:

"May 13. -- ...."I had been riding ahead this morning, and reached Pozo early, though not in time to take part in a skirmish between our vanguard and a party of Indianas. When I arrived, some Mexicans were engaged in lazoing several dead bodies of Indians and dragging them into a heap together. The skirmish had taken place under the following circumstances: Two days before, a party of Lipan Indians, upon one of their predatory excursions, had stolen from a hacienda near Parras several hundred mules and horses, and killed several men. The proprietor of the hacienda, Don Manuel de Ibarra, applied to Captain Ried, of our regiment, (who was then ahead of us with Lieut. Colonel Mitchell's party,) for aid against these Indians. The captain, one of our most gallant officers, took but eight men along, and, accompanied by the Don himself, went back to el Pozo, where the Indianas, on their march to the mountains, had to pass, being the only watering place in that neighborhood. There they hid themselves in a corral, to wait for the arrival of the Indiana. Quite unexpected, about 20 men or our vanguard came very early this morning to el Pozo, and increased their party to 30 men. Soon afterwards the Indians appeared -- from 40 to 50 warriors. When our men rushed on horseback out of the corral to attack them, the Indians (probably supposing them to be Mexicans) received them with sneering and very contemptuous provocations, and their confidence in their bows and arrows was increased when the Americans, firing their rifles from horseback, killed none at the first charge. But as soon as our men alighted, and took good aim with their rifles, the Indians fell on all sides. Nevertheless, they fought most desperately, and did not retire till half of them were either dead or wounded. But at last they had to run for their lives, and to leave all their dead and all their booty behind. Besides the stolen stock, thirteen prisoners, Mexican women and children, whom they had carried along, were retaken and released from the brutality of their savage masters. Fifteen Indiana were lying dead on the field... Most of the dead Indians had fine blankets; some even carried gold; all were armed with bows and arrow, and a few with elegant shields of leather; and the 'medicine man,' who was foremost in the action, and fought most bravely, wore a head-dress of feathers and horns. Our men, of course, took of these curiosities whatever they liked....The fallen Indians were all of medium size, but well proportioned and very muscular; their skulls and faces bore all the characteristics of the Indian race, but their skin looked whiter than I have ever seen it in Indians.... In relation to the tribe of Lipans, I could only ascertain from the Mexicans that they live in the mountains of the Bolson [of Mapimi], extend their stealing and robbing excursions very far south, and have the reputation of being a most brutal and cruel set of Indians, though brave in battle."

So, it could be that these were the people referred to as "Yndios." This part of northern Mexico contained much bitter and brutal fighting between native peoples, displaced tribes, and Spanish/Mexican/American settlers as it was a land with few resources... said resources being needed by all of these groups at the same time. For a great history of the larger region, see Paul Horgan's "Great River: The Rio Grande in North American History." You can use his index to skip around to find sections that describe life during various time periods, particularly if you check out "Coahuila" and then read a few pages before and after each citation.

Finally, although I am no fan of bloody fiction, for an indication of what life was like in the Texas/Mexico border in the 1850s (and it wouldn't have been any happier a century before), see Cormac McCarthy's "Blood Meridian; Or the Evening Redness of the West." There was a reason that these parts of Mexico remained unsettled and "wild" for centuries.... and maybe why the Priest wasn't too worried about listing a last name for poor Razo.

Hope all this helps....

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-19 00:22:53Z

The Wislizenus book is a fascinating look at an often understudied part of Mexico... and of Mexican history. That said, you must understand that the writer certainly had all the views and prejudices of his day, but it is still one of the few easily obtainable documents in English on this part of Mexico.

This is a journal of his travels, and, as such, is arranged by date. About May 10, 1847, he and his companions leave Mapimi and head into what is now called the state of Coahuila. Two days later, he writes the following:

"May 12. -- Starting this morning for San Juan, our vanguard discovered three armed Mexicans running from us. After a short steeple-chase through the chapparal, the Mexicans were made prisoners, and, as no plausible account could be elicited from them, taken along to our night camp in San Juan Bautista, a ranch on the Nasas [today spelled Nazas], 15 miles from San Lorenzo. The road to-day was sandy, and mountin chains towards west, south, and east. The Nasas contained here plenty of running water again.

"As we shall leave the river at this place, I will communicate what I could ascertain from Mexicans in relation to its course further down. The river takes from here a generally southern direction. About five or six leagues below San Juan there is another and the last settlement on its banks, called San Nicolas; from there it runs yet about eight or ten leagues, till it spreads out at last into the Laguna de Tlagualila [today spelled Tlahualilo], a lake of fresh water, but without outlet. In the dry season, this lake often contains no water, while in others it forms a sheet of water of thirty and more leagues in its greatest dimensions, from south to north. Some branches of the lake bear particular names, as Laguna de San Nicolas, de las Aguas, de los Muertos, etc., but the general name is lake Tlagualila. The deonomination lake Cayman is quite unknown to Mexicans...."

[I know that at one point, the Rio Nazas changed its course significantly, so this description may vary from current conditions. See http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/matas-romero/mexico-an... for a description of this event).

In the next post, I'll post a bit about the "Indians" encountered near here.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-18 23:56:39Z

Hi!

I may send this as a couple of messages... it just depends upon how quickly I can find the information I want to share and how I can make this make the most sense.

I think the key locational word in the baptismal record is "Parras." This is a city in Coahuila, today called Parras de la Fuente. It is a very, very old city. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parras_de_la_Fuente for more information. More history in Spanish at http://www.parrascoahuila.com.mx/eng.htm . Location of some records of Parras is http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utlac/00223/lac-00223.html .
From a brochure I have on Parras, I also know that there is in Parras itself, El Archivo Matheo which has "documentos eclesiasticos y civiles de los siglos XVII al XIX." For a bit of information on the current town of Parras see http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/1247-did-you-know-oldest-... .

Parras would easily have had a major church duing this time period and using both old and new maps, I believe I located San Nicolas 70 or so kilometres to the west of Parras. The book I am using which contains the old map is "Memoir of a Tour to Northern Mexico Connected with Col. Doniphan's Expedition in 1846 and 1847," by A. Wislizenus, M.D. with a foreward by Jack D. Rittenhouse. Subtitle of the book is "An Early Account of Travel Over the Old Santa Fe Trail." The copy I have was published in 1969 by Calvin Horn Publisher, Inc. of Albuquerque, New Mexico. On the fold out map titled "Map of a tour from Independence to Santa Fe, Chihuahua, Monterey and Matamoros," about half way between Mapimi and Parras, and a bit to the north of the route he maps, was San Nicolas. The key he uses indicates that this was a hacienda or rancho. On a modern map that I have of the state of Coahuila, you can still find San Nicolas at the end of a dirt road roughly 15 kilometres east of the modern city of San Pedro de las Colonias, and located near the banks of the Rio Nazas river.
To me, this seems like a reasonable "guess" as to the location of the ranch.

I'll post more from Wizlizenus' book in my next reply.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-10-18 19:09:02Z

Yes... I'm back... and I'll go through my books and see what I find. Just flew in late Friday night.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-10-17 04:49:06Z

Are you back at home in Mexico yet?

Do you have access to your library:)

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

LaraElena — 2009-10-17 03:36:42Z

Nuevo Leon, Mexico--I have that name in our family history because my uncle was married there in the early 1920's-It was named San Nicholas de las Garzas

Re: Lazarin

Castillano2003 — 2009-10-16 20:56:40Z

Unclear if you have recieved any information on this but will share with you what I have as for a Lorenzo Trevino Lazarin. Lorenzo T. Lazarin Sr. m. Louisa De La Fuente and had several children, 5 sons and 1 daughter. In my research I am unable to find anything prior to Lorenzo T. Lazarin Sr. (my grandfather). Do you think that Tulis Trevino is a match?

Re: Cordero family

tedwilliamsdesign — 2009-10-10 21:33:50Z

Pictures of Pablo Venzor and family, Pablo Venzor grave, Santa Barbara, and Venzor/Hernadez family gathering Santa Barbara about 1928.

I've never heard of a child of Pablo and Natalia named Theodora.

Re: Cordero family

scribnerje — 2009-10-10 20:25:02Z

In regards to Natalia, wife of Pablo Venzor, her maiden name was Hernandez and she is buried in the Goleta Cemetery in Santa Barbara, California. She was Born 1 Dec 1865 and died 6 Jan 1954. If you would like to locate her grave site within the cemetery, she is located at Lot-Singles-Space-11-Division-1.

El Moral Coahuila Mexico Panteon

farminky — 2009-09-20 20:06:50Z

Does anyone have a list of names that are buried in the cemetery in El Moral Coahuila?

Re: Cordero family

scribnerje — 2009-09-11 17:41:39Z

I recently started researching my family's hispanic side, and have hit a bump a long the way. There was a lot of chatter about the Venzors in this thread and that seems to be part of our ancestry as well. I am trying to locate one of Pablo & Natalia H Venzor's children who in turn had a child named Theodora. Theodora was married to a man named Ezekiel Rodriguez and had 6 children, Angie, Esther, Richard, Reuban, Carlos, and Annie; Richard being my grandfather.
My Great Aunt told me that Theodora's mother name was Maria, assuming that information is correct, the husband of this Maria should be one of the male Venzors.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-09-06 20:55:42Z

End of the week! Send me a reminder then. And you'll probably be able to interlibrary loan them, or purchase them.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-09-06 14:02:50Z

Thank you!

Are you home in Mexico yet? What are the titles of the books? I might be able to get them on an inter-library loan.

Ernie

Re: Chavana from Lampazos, NL & Coahuila - Origin of name

mkenning321 — 2009-09-05 21:46:34Z

my mothers maiden name was chavana and she only knew her dad
was told he came from spain with a brother and maybe a
sister ,but the brother stayed in mexico have no name,this
took place in the late 1800's my grandfathers name florenco
chavana married in new brunfels tx in 1913 where my mother
was born in 1914.thank you ,Mary

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-08-31 12:43:30Z

Most of my books on early northern Mexican history are at my home in Mexico.... where I'm not at the moment. If you remind me in a couple of weeks, I'll be back and able to check them.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-08-30 21:32:40Z

That's probably it, thank you!

I thought Rancho San Nicolas might be in Tlaxcalla. The Tlaxcaltecos settled Parras de la Fuente.

I haven't found any source that details the post Spanish conquest expansion of the Tlaxcaltecos into Coahuila.

Re: Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

MexicoMeg — 2009-08-30 20:20:57Z

I would use the search terms "san nicolas" "mexico" and "coahuila" and see what you find. I found one book, "Los paisanos: Spanish settlers on the northern frontier of New Spain" that showed a page listing "San Nicolas" as being one of the larger settlements. San Nicolas, Coahuila is roughly south of Monclova and there's always a chance this was the site of the original ranch. Might be a guess, but sometimes that's all we have for clues.

Moncibais, Menchaca, Nasario Deleon....

lfew70 — 2009-08-30 02:56:46Z

My immediate family grew up in San Angelo, TX. Majority of my extended family from Del Rio, TX. Am looking into the history of where exactly they came over thru Mexico. My grandfather is Jesus Moncibais, his father Abraham Monsevais. My grandfather's mother's father was Nasario Deleon.

Re: menchaca's

lfew70 — 2009-08-30 02:49:59Z

Hello....
My grandmother's maiden name was Feliz Menchaca. She had several brothers and sisters. Her parents names were Maria Randez and Eumetio Menchaca. Please take a look at my family tree. It has some pictures. I have more to add, just haven't had the time. Good luck with your search.

Does anyone know where San Nicolas Ranch is?

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-08-29 23:31:19Z

I've hit a roadblock in my paternal research and am trying to figure a way around it.

I have pasted the birth record of my direct ancestor below.

It only lists one name for his mother, Razo. A fellow researcher suggested the priest was anti-female so he didn't list the mother's full name. I doubt that.
I don't know if Razo was her first name, or surname.

The record doesn't say where the parents were from, only that they were Indians. But it lists Rancho San Nicolas as the residence of the two godparents. I think this might bare further investigation. If I could find out where this rancho is, I could search for the parents there.

I found no other collateral record, no other brothers and sisters for my direct ancestor, no marriage record for his parents, no death records. But I haven't given up hope:)

English Translation:

In this sacred church in the parish of parras, on the thirteenth of May of 1796. I, don Gregorio Evaldez, deputy priest, solemnly baptized a nine day old baby boy who I named Jose Ascension, son of Juan Ysidro Ramires and Razo, Indians of (this jurisdiction?), the godparents were Maximo Gomes and Rosalia Gudin residents of San Nicolas Ranch. I have advised them of the obligation they have entered in their charge, of this I swear and affirm by my signature, Gregorio Evaldes.

(Note: only one name is entered for the mother, Razo, which could be a first name, or a surname.)

Spanish Translation:
En esta Sta Yglesia Parroquia de parras, en el trece de Mayo de mil sietecientos noventa y seis, Yo Dn Grego. Evaldez teniente de cura bautize solemnemente a un nino de nueve dias de nacido, le puse por nombre Jose Acension, hijo de Juan Ysidro Ramires y de Razo, Yndios de este, fueron sus padrinos Maximo Gomes y Rosalia Gudin recidentes en el rancho de San Nicolas y les adverti el parentesco que tienen y la obligacion de su cargo y para que conste, yo firmo Gregorio Evaldes.

(Nota: solo aparece un nombre por la madre, Razo.)

Re: licenciado Jesús Acuña

curator167 — 2009-08-26 16:04:23Z

Here I go with an reply to myself.

I recently found the parental names of licenciado Jesús Acuña (Jr.) (my maternal great grandfather). He was the son of Jesús Acuña (Sr.) and Mariana Narro both of Saltillo. I have not found their birth or marriage death records yet although I do know that Jesús Acuña (Sr.) was still alive in 1918 when accompanied my great grandfather to Austin, Texas having fled there after an assasination attempt was made on Jesús (Jr.)

I also found the name of my great grandfather's wife - Enriqueta Rodriguez Morales, born on 16 September, 1890 in Saltillo. I also found the names of their nine children: Bernardo, Enrique, Roberto, Jesús(b.abt.1913), Servando(b. abt.1914), Ana Maria (b. 1916), Guillermo(b. 1918), Raymundo(b.1921) and Gertrudis (b.1928). It should also be noted that this said Enriqueta was not my great grandmother. He had only one daughter - my grandmother Carmen - from his laison with my great grandmother Margarita Ramirez.

Re: Rosales (Villa Union), Coahuila

crystalrpena — 2009-08-19 16:05:58Z

Hi did you ever find out anything else new on the Chalambaga's? I am the Grandaughter of Sostenes Chalambaga, he passed away in 2005. His sister Consuelo passed away in Pasadena,tx i think 2000 or soo..

Re: Apellido Muraida

bmuraira — 2009-08-18 03:17:34Z

sorry for the late posting ariel, what was your father's name and when was he born?

Re: Apellido Muraida

bmuraira — 2009-08-18 03:14:18Z

Hi Julio!
well, my family is also from texas, and originally from monterrey - and that of villa aldama - thank you for the information.
what are your grandparents' names? what part of texas are you from?

Re: Apellido Muraida

bmuraira — 2009-08-18 03:10:34Z

HI!
yes, is your spelling of your name muraida or muraira?

Re: Apellido Muraida, Moraida, moreira , Etc..

mrgrit33 — 2009-08-06 08:10:57Z

Hi I'm Margaret Muraida
just read Your message,
email me mrgrit33@msn.com

Re: Apellido Muraida, Moraida, moreira , Etc..

moraida79 — 2009-08-05 16:00:47Z

Hi my name is Nora im from Dallas, Texas i have family in San Antonio, coahuila, california and i know i have more family in san antonio and dallas that i do not know about. My grandfather Federica Moraida told me and my sister that when he was born in San Antonio and when he was young his mother took him to mexico so he wouldnt be taken to the war and thats when she changed the name to MORAIDA. if you i have more family out there i would LOVE to MEET ALL OF YA' this is my email (moraida79@yahoo.com) OR (www.myspace.com/moraida79)if you want to contact my by cell just write to me and i can give it to you.. thanks hope to hear from anyone with the last name moraida or close to it.... TAKE CARE EVEYRBODY

Re: reply

moraida79 — 2009-08-05 15:34:54Z

Hi my name is nora I live in dallas texas and also have family in san antonio, california, mexico and other parts in texas but i have never met them before. my granfather (federico moraida) told me and my sister that his last name changed when he was young his mother changed it because she didnt want him to go to the war and took him to mexico and changed the last name. thats where he met his wife my grandmother dora elia moraida. i hope to hear from anyone about his. this is my email moraida79@yahoo.com take care

Re: De la Cerda

cynthiapitt1 — 2009-07-30 06:48:14Z

Hola Isabel,

Mi abuelo era Pablo de la Cerda Herrera y era de Piedras Negras. Tal vez tenemos algun pariente en comun.

escribeme a cynthiapitt@hotmail.com

saludos.

Re: "De La Cerda Surname"

cynthiapitt1 — 2009-07-30 06:34:16Z

Hello Dolores, My name is Cynthia Rdz de la Cerda. I am from Monterrey. My Grandfather was Pablo de la Cerda Herrera, unfortunately he past away before I was born. I don't know much about his family but I remember uncle Napoleón or "Tio Napo" as we used to call him. I would like to know get more information since I don't know much about them. I know you wrote this in 1999 and I really hope you can see my replay.

my e-mail is cynthiapitt@hotmail.com

Hugs.

Re: San Buenaventura Coah. Falcon-Wilson

exherol — 2009-07-18 21:22:12Z

Coahuila church records are online at www.labs.familysearch.org.

1. hit Record Search link there

2. on map that comes up hit North America area

3. on page that comes up , atthe bottom of page under MExico header, press Coahuila

4. On the list of churchs, press your church and keep going

SOme people also did their baptisms in cuatro cengas or Nadadores.

Re: San Buenaventura Coah. Falcon-Wilson

yvette2 — 2009-07-14 17:01:44Z

I am also seeking info on Andres Falcon. He may have also been married to Francisca Trevino. My gr-grandfather is Manuel Falcon-Trevino born in San Buenaventura.

Maria Silvestra Romo 1856 Rio Nuevo, Coahuila-1935 Los Angeles, California

Ernie_Alderete — 2009-06-25 16:48:32Z

I know this is a long shot, but here goes. I'm looking for a picture of my great great grandmother, Maria Silvestra Romo. I'm told there are pictures out there, but I haven't located any.

She was born just after the new year 1856 in Rancho Nuevo, now La Madrid, Coahuila, Mexico.

She immigrated to the United States with her husband Mateo Ramirez around 1875, and had her first and I believe only child, my great grandfather, VictorianoRamirez Romo in Brownsville, Cameron County, Texas in 1876.

I do have pictures of Victoriano, but have not been able to pin down his birth record. I'm told Texas didn't record births until 1903, but I know many birth records predate this date.

But a picture of Maria Silvestra Romo would be my first goal.

I tried Homeland Security, but they didn't have anything on either Maria Silvestra Romo, nor her husband Mateo Ramirez. In those days I don't think you needed formal documents to cross the border.

I even tried the coroner here in Los Angeles where she was killed when she was run over by a low rider while doing her daily 14 stations of the cross, each one at a different church. Yes, she was deeply religious, so I'm told.

And very short and petite, as was her son Victoriano. Although I never met either one, they died before I was born.

Check out my family tree here:

Ramirez Rodriguez Family Tree yDNA R1B1B2