I am looking for info on Michael Voegtling (1815-1885) (aka, Voegtle--American translation: Fickling, Fickley)
He immigrated from Alsace to Pittsburgh, PA sometime before 1841. Please help, he has been really hard to find...
Cindy

Cindy,
Are you from Pgh, too? Is this Voegtly connected to the church and cemetery in Allegheny City, PA? I ask because I thought that that family came from Switzerland. My ancesters attended his church and are buried in that church's cemetery. That was around 1840's and 50's. If you are not from PGh, you might not know this, but if you are, you know how historical this family name is.

Bernice,
I am from Pittsburgh. I live in Bethlehem, PA now. My ancestor's offical spelling of his name was Voegtling but it has been recorded as being spelled Voegtly. When spoken they could be confused. My Michael came from Alsace Lorraine but he attended the Voegtly Church on the North Side. He was married there and we have one church record for the baptism of his first child. As a child, I attended the Smithfield Church which, as I understand it, was the church where Nicholas Voegtly began and branched on to start his own congregation in 1833. Tell me a bit about your ancestors if you will. Have you researched via the church records there?
Cindy

Cindy,
I thought with a name like Voegtly, you must have roots here in Pgh. I just checked the partial listing that is on the internet for Voegtly Cemetery (located on Troy Hill) to see if there was a listing for your Michael(http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/voegtly.htm). Sorry, there was no Michael. My ggg-grandfather, gg-grandfather and gg-grandmother, various uncles and aunts are buried in this cemetery. I knew that Nicholas was from Swizterland so I hoped that your Michael just might have been, too. I wonder why he was attracted to a church that was frequented by a large Swiss population. Do you think that they were related at all? My g-grandmother is buried in Smithfield Church's cemetery, so you and I have similarities in our background. I did have a very hard time finding her, it took years. She lived in the Old Folks home near Baden, PA and I looked through a lot of cemeteries in that area (Beaver Co). After I accidently found her listed on the 1920 census while I was at the Seattle Nat'l Archives, my brother requested a "ten year search" through the PA vital records dept. and they found a death certificate listing her burial site as Smithfield Cemetery. It turns out that the Old Folks Home where my ggmother died was located in a popular vacation spot for the wealthier residents of Allegheny City. It's not far from Allegheny City by today's standards, but back then, it probably was a full days journey. I never would have guessed that she would be buried in Smithfield instead of Voegthly as all her family. I had searched the records of Voegtly Church that were at Hillman Library. I also knew that my particular family also belong to St. Paul's Evang. Lutheran Church on Avery St. which was near Voegtly Church. There was, I believe, a St. Peter's located there also. All those records can be viewed at Hillman's, also. But, since you are not local, I know that St. Paul's can be ordered through the LDS library. Our LDS keeps their copy at their branch in Greentree instead of returning them to Salt Lake. The actual records are supposed to be in St. Louis (Eden Seminary). I believe that denomination is now part of the Church of Christ or Church of the Brethern - it's not Lutheran. My ancesters were Jenny's(Swiss), Schlegel's(German), McGinnis(Scottish/Irish), Rebholz(Alsatian) and others. I don't get out to the main library much, but when I do, I shall be on the lookout for Michael Voegtly. Do you have any more info about him. Did he remain here in Pgh? In Allegheny City? Were you able to check city directories? Censuses? Do you know when he died? I don't know what access you have to Pgh research or whether you come back regularly to do your searching. I wish you luck in finding Michael.

Bernice,
Thanks for the nice long letter. I have checked all the sites I know of to find anything on my Voegtlings--nothing.
As I told you, We have two records putting him and his wife, Margaret Pardonner, in the North Side. As of 1860 we have them on the Southside. In between is somewhat of a puzzle. 1841-1842 shows them in Allegheny City (Voeglty records). 1848 naturalization papers show him being from Armstong County but his witness, Karl Kallnear, is from Allegheny City. Child #2, Henry's death certificate places his birth in A.C. 1850 puts Michael and Margaret together living with her parents on the North Side.
We have checked Smithfield Church records and found nothing. There were a few Voegtlys. A Conrad and a Margaret, I believe.
The Voegtly Church turned up only the two records but I have an index with the name Karl Voeglty on it but didn't follow up on that one. M M had a Karl/Charles in 1854 but his church record came from St. Paul's Church.
Was St. Peter's a Catholic church or Lutheran Church? Are the records housed at Hillman? I plan to go there when I get into town during the Christmas holiday. If not, did you say that the these are available through the LDS also.
We are missing birth records for Henry J. Voegtling/Voegtly/Voegtli/Fickling b. abt. 1845, Anna Katherine b. 6/6/1846, John b. abt. 1849, Mary b. 4/16/1851, Margaret b. abt. 1852 and we beleive there is one missing child who must have died young. The rest of their children were born and/or died on the Southside.
The Pardonner name is at the Voegtly Church as well. There is a Peter but we have not established how he fits in, if he does.
Feel free to contact me via e-mail. NotesCWR@aol.com
Cindy

Hello I only just read your post of the year 2000. I am from the Pittsburgh Voegtly family. My grandmother was the grand-daughter of Nicolas Voegtly. Her father was Nicolas' oldest son, William. He married Mary Quinn, a housemaid of the Voegtly's, and had four children. They were all born in Pgh, died in Youngstown, Ohio,except the youngest Chester. The eldest grandson of Nicolas went to California as a young man and died there. I would appreciate a reply through my email, and to discuss the family further, to gain more information.

thanks

On the 1836 census CD of Bouxwiller, Drulingen, La Petite Pierre and Sarre Union, I found 20 VOEGTLIN in Weiterswiller, but NO Michel (in french) or Michael.
Weiterswiller is close to Ingwiller. I am living in the East of this area.
Here the web side of Weiterswiller : http://www.cc.pays-de-hanau.com/fr/weiterswiller/weiterswill...

Hello Cindy,

Your first messages on Rootsweb dates back to 2000... I suppose/hope that in 9 years' time someone has already forwarded you the information I have.
I'm Albert KLEIN from Alsace and I'm not related at all. I just remembered finding lots of information about some ancestors in Weiterswiller from Mr François SCHUNK's website which you most probably know.

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/f.s.weiters/SiteWeiters/Etat%20c...

On this page (Etat civil) you will find a file with births (Naissances) from 1st Jan 1793 to 31 Dec 1872 :
- There is only one Michel, born on 24 Feb 1807 from Philippe Jacques VOEGTLING and Salomé HANS (these two didn't get married in W. see lutheran/protestant church books : registres paroissiaux protestants; and none of the three lived in W when the 1st French census took place in 1836, nor on the following ones in 1841 and 1846) (Census : see recensements)
From the church books I learnt that all VOEGTLINGs were lutheran.
- There is only 1 boy born in 1815, named Georges, born on 3rd Jun 1815, from jean Henri V. and catherine HUSSER. But in the 1846 census he still lives with his mother and is said to be an imbecile/mentally disabled...

In the Grenier (=attic) in Coffre (=chest) 3, you will find a reconstitution of the VOEGTLIN family (see #25, no place of marriage...)

Hope this email address is still the right one... (Actually it isn't...)

Best wishes and good luck.

Albert