Alsace - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Alsace Newbie

jjj001 — 2009-11-21 03:05:20Z

Hi Carolyn.

Sure, my e-mail is j.j.jenkin at lycos.com

Josh

Re: Alsace Newbie

cebeno — 2009-11-21 02:10:19Z

Josh-
The Alsace-Lorraine list has a couple of postings for you. Please send your email address to me and I will forward them to you.
Carolyn
cebeno@cox.net
Merckel of Surbourg descendent

Re: Alsace Newbie

jjj001 — 2009-11-20 13:33:41Z

My Heberle line, or should I say lines criss-cross back and forth a couple times, one of my fourth great grandfather's, the Mayor of Reichshoffen actually married a Heberle who was his first cousin...whoops!

I find one Joseph Heberle in my tree, though he died at two years old in 1831 in Dambach. Do you happen to have parentage information on your Joseph and also his birthdate?

Josh

Re: Alsace Newbie

RonMills56 — 2009-11-20 13:19:18Z

Josh: I'd be very interested in the info you have on the Heberle line...My Grandmother was Elizabeth Heberele, dau of Josheph and Theresa Hoefflinger Heberle.
Ron Mills

Re: Alsace Newbie

jjj001 — 2009-11-20 13:10:43Z

Thanks for the links. I hadn't seen the informational pdfs on the census and it is very useful (though a little hard to read even with Google translate!).

I think I read on that site previously that nothing is available online through the Bas-Rhin archives as of now..they plan on making items available 2011 I believe.

Josh

Becky from Germersheim

tinarudi — 2009-11-20 11:14:20Z

Hi Mildred,
are you sure with LONDERNHEIM? I think you mean SONDERNHEIM!
Today it´s a part of Germersheim.
If you are still interested to get infos to your Becky - ancestors, then contact me.

Re: Alsace Newbie

rohchar — 2009-11-20 07:43:30Z

Hi,

current address is : http://www.census1836.com/

in french : http://www.census1836.fr/

More details on Censuses for Alsace region and pdfs to
download on Archives Departementales site (french only):

http://www.archives.cg67.fr/scripts/02methodes/02b_methodes_...

regards,
charles.

Re: Alsace Newbie

jjj001 — 2009-11-20 02:33:13Z

Hi Albert. This is just the information I was looking for!

Josh

Re: Pfister of Hägen, Bas-Rhin or Haegen

Qroots — 2009-11-20 00:33:22Z

Thanks you very much for the information and I have confirmed that these are the names of parents for Leonard Pfister. I obtained marriage records from St Joseph's Cath. Church East Bristol Wisconsin. Unlike previous post - I really didn't have exact DOB. I also don't know when he came to USA or if he came with other family. Thank you very much for the look-up and I will try to get Haegen microfilm tape from LDS. qroots@hotmail.com

Re: Alsace Newbie

albertklein1 — 2009-11-19 21:57:22Z

Hello Josh,

Here is what I wrote on the FRA-ALSACE mailing list some time ago. There are more CD's about the 1836 census today than in 2006.
Best wishes.
Albert

On Sunday 08 October 2006 8:36 am, Albert KLEIN wrote:
> Hello Valorie,
> You might find censuses in France (Alsace included at that time, of course)
> in 1774, 1806 and 1817 in some limited areas. Censuses became nationwide
> from 1836 on and took place every 5th year until 1936, then every 10th
> year. During the German time (1871 - 1918) the frequency might be more
> irregular. Unfortunately, some data have disappeared mainly because of the
> wars. These censuses are kept at the departmental archives (Strasbourg for
> the Lower Rhine Department, Colmar for the Upper Rhine Dep. and Metz for
> the Moselle one) but you have to know the village if you want to find your
> people without browsing all of the actual paper forms.... The only
> exception consists in 3 databases compiled by C. GEYER on three CDroms and
> concern the 1836 census for 3 limited areas in the Lower Rhine Department
> (Strasbourg-city, the district (arrondissement) of Wissembourg (103
> villages), and the two sub-districts (cantons) of Bischwiller and Haguenau
> (37 villages). Details about the 1836 census can be found at the following
> address : http://site.voila.fr/census1836/UK/main.html
> (which doesn't seem to work at the moment...)
> Best wishes
> Albert Klein

Re: Look-up request, 1836 Alsace Census

jjj001 — 2009-11-19 21:09:37Z

Neither are in the Arrondissement de Wissembourg CD, though other individuals of both surnames are present.

Alsace Newbie

jjj001 — 2009-11-19 20:30:17Z

Hi.

I recently began delving into Alsace history...including obtaining the 1836 Census of Wissembourg which has proved extremely useful. I realize a lot of the towns have vital records available to be viewed via LDS microfilm...

However, I was curious if there were any other similar census records available like the one done in 1836. Were there any earlier or later?

Thanks for your assistance,

Josh

By the way, I research the following surnames in the region:

Ziliox; Blum; Augstburger; Diemer; Merckel; Acker; Nussbaum; Grauel; Martz; Lehmann; Rauch; Grussenmeyer; Herrmann; Loschine; Ziegler; Biltz; Heitz; Heberle; Wirth; Schuver; Walther; Saur; Wolfe; Piquet; Jacobi; Ay

Witz/Mutter Alsace/Lorraine France

sjrose814 — 2009-11-18 01:33:23Z

I'am at a dead end in finding info on Christian Witz Sr. and Mary Ann? Mutter Witz.I was told by my ggrandmother that they came from Alsace. If someone could help me any further that would be a big help. Here is what I do know;
Christian Witz Sr. Born March 1825 died in Pa March 30,1916
Mary Ann Utter Witz Born July 1823 died in Pa Feb,3 1901
Married 1851 France, Immagration around 1852 to USA
Son Philip Witz born Oct.6 1852 Alsace,France
Their other 5 sons were born in Warren,Pennsylvania .I was told Christian served 7 yrs in French army.Lost all of his land and property when Germany took over. Please help me find out if this is right.Who were their parents as well?Thank you very much.I can't read German or French.

FULHABER from Soultz (Alsace)

sophiefrance — 2009-11-17 20:24:45Z

Looking for any piece of information on
Henri/Henry/Heinrich FULHABER
born 03/02/1876 in Soultz who married ?? Freda in the USA
(living in Philadelphia in 1930)

Joseph Albert FULHABER
born 03/14/1879 in Soultz
married Marie Ernestine SCHULTZ (07/03/1901 Soultz)
children :
Louise Anne Marthe FULHABER (born 01/23/1902 Soultz)
Marie Emilie Lucie FULHABER (born 03/23/1904 Soultz)
(family arruval in NYC harbor in 1923)

Sons of François Antoine FULHABER and Marie Louise HUNGLER

They immigrated to America end of the 19th

Their French family is looking for their descent.

Re: GUTZWILLER ORIGIN

aka_gusgus — 2009-11-15 19:23:57Z

I'm not sure if this thread is still alive but if it is I am definitely interested!

Re: caroline winters

mervburgard — 2009-11-14 21:49:33Z

Was her last name Luecke?
This would indicate a birth date of October 19, 1928.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Lu...;.

Merv - NOT related

caroline winters

robertacotter58 — 2009-11-14 16:39:10Z

I'm lookinf for caroline winters born 1823-1824 in alsace lorraine came to the u.s ? and married heinrich christian frederick in 1852 had julia, emilie, charles frederick, married in 1852 Manhatten moved to san francisco came back to manhatten around 1860 then living in brooklyn staten island, buried in greenwood cementry in 1905.

Re: Trauth relatives

karinchadwick72 — 2009-11-13 16:55:13Z

I am researching the Trauths also. My ancestor Maria Eva Trauth married Joannes Gruber in 1811 in Herxheim, Laudau, Pfalz Germany. Many of the people in this line are from Essingen, a few miles away, I believe. Maria's father was Mathaus Trauth (m. Margaretha Eichenlaub). I think these families all came to the US in the 1840s' thru Louisiana. They were Catholic. My Grubers ended up in Louisville and I am pretty sure they are related to some of the Cincinatti Grubers because of a striking similarity of given names and occupations. I havn't found evidence that the Trauths or Eichenlaubs made it to Louisville, altho there are both in LA records.. Most of my Trauth info came from the LDS.

Re: Voegele family name

danettetaylor0708 — 2009-11-13 14:21:57Z

I am related to this same family through Gabriel. I would be interested in any information or pictures that you would be willing to share, and would do likewise.

Re: Trauth relatives

seelbach60 — 2009-11-13 06:10:49Z

My grandfather was John H. Trauth, louisville, KY
He had a sister named Fannie who married William Alsmiller
I have posted numerous pictures of he and his family (8 children). Also just recently found pictures of August and Josie Trauth, note on back of picture indicated they had traveled to northern KY to visit Trauth relatives. I have posted several pictures of the Trauth family and hope someone recognizes the folks in these pictures - if you do please let me know.

Re: familytree

mervburgard — 2009-11-12 02:17:31Z

You will find this family in the 1880 census on the LDS website

Merv.

correction on Zimmerlin

zackandlaurap — 2009-11-11 19:11:15Z

On the post about Jaques Paul Zimmerlin, I put his fathers name as Zimmerman, but it is actually Zimmerlin. Sorry for any confusion.

Jacques Paul Zimmerlin

zackandlaurap — 2009-11-11 19:06:30Z

My mother in laws father is Jacques Paul Zimmerlin, b. Mar 2, 1925. We are trying to find any info on him. I have his birth certificate but can't make out his mothers name. His father is Paul Edmond Germain David (Zimmerman). Jacques wasn't married to her mother, and from her stories, he was in the French military and possibly lived in Germany for a while. I can't seem to find anything on him whatsoever. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Re: familytree

Jackie_McDermott — 2009-11-11 16:36:16Z

I came across your posting from 2001 and am hoping you receive this. I have been trying for years to find more information on my greatgrandfather, Frederick Stabell's family. I don't have much information. Frederick's fathers name is also Frederick and he was born in Norway about 1833, married Isabella Dorathea Ericson. They had three children, Albert, Joseph and Frederick (my grandfather). If you have any information to share it would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Neuloescher, Lower Alsace

elisel44 — 2009-11-11 06:52:45Z

Johannes Philip Weltzheimer was actually born at "Berlin-Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen" in 1730. He likely moved to the "Lower Alsace, France" region before immigrating to the United States. He left "Lisbon Portugal" for the USA in 1765 on Oct 15 on a ship called "The Polly". He had his son Phillip 11 with him. They first landed near or in Lancaster PA. From there they went to Shepherdstown VA/WV. Shortly after JPW arrived in the USA his second son "Frederick" was born. All three served in the "Revolutionary War". JPW served as a gunsmith. He died in Frederick Maryland 1803(1830).

Re: Alsace 1836 Census lookup - can anyone help me?

geniejom — 2009-11-11 00:39:02Z

Could you provide a name and an approx birth year?

Re: Alsace 1836 Census lookup - can anyone help me?

findgilder — 2009-11-10 17:11:58Z

Hello,
Can you please look to see whether there are any Hammann or Hamann listings? I know there were a few in Strasbourg and Wissembourg. Also, does anyone happen to have access to the 1836 records for other Cantons, especially Bouxwiller, Drulingen, La Petite-Pierre and Sarre-Union? Thanks a ton in advance for any help anyone can provide.
Brian Hamman
brianhamman@yahoo.com

Re: SCHARF of Alsace-Lorraine

kburck_1 — 2009-11-10 03:21:30Z

Was your Scharf family Catholic or Protestant? Mine were all Protestant and lived in Reichenweier in the 1500s to 1800s. The village's French name is Riquewihr.

Re: Stosskopff

dwfetherston — 2009-11-09 19:31:01Z

In addition to those listed Charles, George, and Michael Stoskopf of Wasselonne, Alsace were the ancestors of those Stoskopfs in Ohio (Cuyahoga and Medina counties).
They were apparently sons of a George Stoskopf (B. Kirwiller? and died after 1860 in Ohio.) who married Marie Fuch. Does anyone have additional information on these families or on the Wasselonne (or Kirwiller) branch of Stoskopfs?

looking for german ancestors

searchforgreats — 2009-11-09 01:50:11Z

I am looking for relatives of my great-great-grandfather Franz Krebs who emigrated to Australia in 1862. He was born in nieder morlen in "Kurhefsen", but may have also lived in darmstadt, Hessen. His mother was magdalena mobbs(or possiblewy moebs) and father ulrich krebs. He came by himself aged 28 years, occupation Lundmann (peasant?).

Re: Voegtling of Weiterswiller, Alsace

albertklein1 — 2009-11-08 16:07:12Z

Hello Cindy,

Your first messages on Rootsweb dates back to 2000... I suppose/hope that in 9 years' time someone has already forwarded you the information I have.
I'm Albert KLEIN from Alsace and I'm not related at all. I just remembered finding lots of information about some ancestors in Weiterswiller from Mr François SCHUNK's website which you most probably know.

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/f.s.weiters/SiteWeiters/Etat%20c...

On this page (Etat civil) you will find a file with births (Naissances) from 1st Jan 1793 to 31 Dec 1872 :
- There is only one Michel, born on 24 Feb 1807 from Philippe Jacques VOEGTLING and Salomé HANS (these two didn't get married in W. see lutheran/protestant church books : registres paroissiaux protestants; and none of the three lived in W when the 1st French census took place in 1836, nor on the following ones in 1841 and 1846) (Census : see recensements)
From the church books I learnt that all VOEGTLINGs were lutheran.
- There is only 1 boy born in 1815, named Georges, born on 3rd Jun 1815, from jean Henri V. and catherine HUSSER. But in the 1846 census he still lives with his mother and is said to be an imbecile/mentally disabled...

In the Grenier (=attic) in Coffre (=chest) 3, you will find a reconstitution of the VOEGTLIN family (see #25, no place of marriage...)

Hope this email address is still the right one... (Actually it isn't...)

Best wishes and good luck.

Albert

Re: Voegtling from Weiterswiller, Alsace Lorraine, FR

mawag25 — 2009-11-08 11:32:58Z

On the 1836 census CD of Bouxwiller, Drulingen, La Petite Pierre and Sarre Union, I found 20 VOEGTLIN in Weiterswiller, but NO Michel (in french) or Michael.
Weiterswiller is close to Ingwiller. I am living in the East of this area.
Here the web side of Weiterswiller : http://www.cc.pays-de-hanau.com/fr/weiterswiller/weiterswill...

Re: Lambert Halter

rohchar — 2009-11-08 10:29:08Z

Hi,

For Illinois and Indiana, they should rather arrive to
New-Orleans.
http://collections.lib.uwm.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT...

The Lambert HALTER born in Birkenwald is a brother of
(Johann) Michel, who emigrated as family of 5.

His wife :
Francoise LUSTENBERGER, from Wangenbourg, Alsace, not
too far from Birkenwald.
They married in Birk., on Jan 28, 1824.

see : http://genealogy.rohrbacher.net/cim4580

They had 3 children born in Birk. :
Sophie, Feb 27, 1824,
Joseph, Apr 24, 1828,
Florent, Oct 16, 1830.

These 5 emigrated before 1838, as your Lambert.

To link the Lambert from Haguenau to the Lambert of Birk.,
you should find his marriage certificate (in Haguenau ???).

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/printing/...

If your link is proven, you should be able to trace his
ancestors until 15th century (see geneanet data).

regards,
Charles.

Re: Voegtly of Pgh

virginiagarlick1 — 2009-11-07 19:09:00Z

Hello I only just read your post of the year 2000. I am from the Pittsburgh Voegtly family. My grandmother was the grand-daughter of Nicolas Voegtly. Her father was Nicolas' oldest son, William. He married Mary Quinn, a housemaid of the Voegtly's, and had four children. They were all born in Pgh, died in Youngstown, Ohio,except the youngest Chester. The eldest grandson of Nicolas went to California as a young man and died there. I would appreciate a reply through my email, and to discuss the family further, to gain more information.

thanks

Re: Obernai Catholic Marriage Index, 1617 to 1792. RIGHT HERE. by Bride.

BKostelnik333 — 2009-11-07 18:49:47Z

can anyone tell me what the PV and similar abbreviations mean after the names?

Thanks in advance,
Barb (Binders from Alsace) Kostelnik

Parish maps for Strasbourg?

clampshire — 2009-11-05 16:41:55Z

I am searching for the marriage of my ancestors in the city of Strasbourg around 1745-55.

I have not found it in the church where their son was baptised. I would like to check surrounding parishes for the record. Is there a map available which shows the parishes within the city of Strasbourg?

Postcards from Guebwiller/Buhl - Info request

brianmuller — 2009-11-05 15:31:21Z

I have three old postcards of what I would call today a community band that are from the Guebwiller and Buhl areas. I believe that one of my ancestors is in all three and served at one time as a Conductor. I am willing to send these to anyone who might have more information about these groups. The Postcards I have are as follows; (1910) Musiksection des. kath. Junglings-Vereins Gebweiler [trans. Music sectio of the Catholic Association?); (1930) Harmonie de Buhl; and (1938?) Societe de Musique Ouvriere - Liberte - Guebwiller.
If anyone has any information on these groups or wishes to view these postcards. Contact me at bmuller@gfacademy.org.
Thanks,
Brian Muller

Re: ineich family

Broncof150 — 2009-11-04 05:17:47Z

I am an Ineich, John Ineich I am 38, I live in Syracuse, I know Felix, he was my grandfather from my dads side. He is buried in Manoa last I knew and does only have a marker. I know my dad had an Uncle Eddie,,but I dont recognise the other names.

Re: Lambert Halter

cim4580 — 2009-11-04 02:01:28Z

There is a local LDS church here in our town with a family history center. What would I need to ask for to be able to view and or get a copy of this information?

Re: Lambert Halter

cim4580 — 2009-11-04 01:36:11Z

Thank you so much for the digital copies of the originals! I doubt I would have came across them otherwise. Do you know of any way to find out what ship they sailed on, or what port they would have used. Would it have possibly been listed somewhere? Thank you again for the help and wonderful information!!!

Re: Bautz

meritaten21 — 2009-11-03 04:11:29Z

Conrad and Peter Bautz are my great uncles. My grandmother was their sister, and lived with Maria and Peter Ott before marrying my grandfather. Please contact me! We are working on the family tree and have tons of info!
Susan Horn Elamri
meritaten21@yahoo.com

Re: Andreas Buettel

smithausx — 2009-11-03 03:51:53Z

Hi again,
That's the newspaper that has the La Rochelle with Margareth Seubert & Burkhard Buettel aboad. They were seated together. I've seen from the Australian Archives about alien registrations document for Andreas just before the 1st world war. This document says 1859 he entered into the Commonwealth & he was of german background, born 1837. They were suspicious about germans then as well as ww2. Margareth came from Wenkheim some distance SE of Wertheim, & her & parents can be found on the IGI, interesting that I haven't been able to find Andreas' immediate family on the IGI though. There are immigration documents asking for release from the state for Margareth & the Burkhard Buettel. I did get Andreas', these were not cheap about 40 euros. The little church Wehrkirche of Urphar is where Andreas & his folk would have attended I believe. If you type it into Google images you'll find a nice selection of pictures. Cheers

Re: Andreas Buettel

1sherwood — 2009-11-02 23:57:37Z

I guess you have seen this?
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4606870
2nd column from right fourth row down.
Cheers

Re: Steltzlen family

cindysoul — 2009-11-02 23:37:50Z

Hello Cousin!
I've been checking my email everyday, hoping I get a note from you! LOL! I am so looking forward to talking with you! Do you remember the name of the lady that had Sebastian's birth certificate? Was she one of Sebastian's daughters? I have looked everywhere for information about Sebastian! LOL! I'm beginning to think Sebastian must have been his middle name! LOL! Take care cousin! Cindy

Re: Andreas Buettel

1sherwood — 2009-11-02 23:05:37Z

Thanks for that. Glad we finally made contact. Have got copy of book arriving in the next few days, so shall enjoy the read! I will let you know anything more I find out. Cheers S.I.

Re: Durlinsdorf

KYJustin — 2009-11-02 22:43:05Z

Apologies for not writing in French. I am unable.

My father's ancestors left Durlinsdorf in 1872. They were

Louis MEYER
1829-1910

and his son,

Eugene MEYER
1862-1911

Also their extended family. I have their original immigration records and travel documents, as well as many photographs.

They moved to Kentucky, United States, where they started a farm that my family still owns. Also interesting, the church founded in their community is called St. Peter and Paul, the same as in Durlinsdorf.

I have also been searching through microfilm records from Durlinsdorf, including the French Civil Records, and church records, with quite a bit of success. I still have much more to do, as the French language is difficult for me to decipher.

I am very interested in all things Durlinsdorf, as it is a place that my family has talked about for generations. I hope to eventually travel there one day.

Re: Lambert Halter

kellycooper27 — 2009-11-02 17:13:15Z

You can order the Haguenau tapes from your local LDS FHC. Do you have one near you?

If you e-me at kelly.ancestry@verizon, I can help you further.
kelly

Re: Andreas Buettel

smithausx — 2009-11-02 12:23:52Z

Hi,
I don't know about the French-Canadian aspect, but Mr N Buettel's book always gave me the impression that Andreas & his folk were from Alsace Lorraine, certainly much further back they may have roots there, & Andreas may have done part of his military service there. But recent research aided by a german genealogist has found that Andreas & his parents were in Urphar, Wertheim. He made application to emigrate from there. There could be a relationship to another Buettel family who emigrated about mid 1700's to Pensilvania, I think, but have to wait a see what else he finds. I have never found Andreas on the the LDS Hamburg listings, but Margaretha Seubert 26 who was seated next to 18 yo Burkhard Buettel, it's little bit strange. Don't know what happened to him. Leave there for now. LS

Re: Andreas Buettel

1sherwood — 2009-11-02 11:27:06Z

My Mother, Andreas Buettel's great grand daughter always said he was French Canadian. I don't know if this helps.

Re: Lambert Halter

rohchar — 2009-11-02 08:23:15Z

HI,

Lambert HALTER appears on the Emigration list 1827-1838
for Haguenau, as family of 2 (prob. Lambert and his wife,
and no child).

See :
genealogy.rohrbacher.net/cim4580/ (2nd page, line 25)

This does't mean he was born in Haguenau, as told in
Cornelia's SCHRADER-MUGGENTHALER Alsace Emigration Book.

An other HALTER family migrated to USA from Birkenwald :
genealogy.rohrbacher.net/rolling as family of 5 (line 5)
could be related.

Charles - not related.