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GIRARD FAMILY/Darthenay family Normandy

sylvi193 — 2009-10-24 22:22:18Z

Looking for bmd of Pierre Emile Girard about 1865 and Albert Francois Auguste Marcel Girard/Gerard 1912 and marriage of Marie Loise Eugenie DARTHENAY to Pierre Emile Girard

Births in Dieppe

mk12893ie — 2009-10-05 09:03:33Z

I have two ancestors born in Dieppe:
Alan (Allan?) Bruce Allen b. 1867
and Marian Ethel Allen b. 1868
Their parents were Richard Collyns Allen, a clergyman, and Marian formerly Rippen.
Both children and their parents returned to the UK before the 1871 census
Can anyone tell me how to trace the birth registrations in Dieppe or otherwise add to my knowledge of this family
Thank you. Mike

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

linda1v4ss — 2009-09-10 08:08:23Z

Thank you EssexLass and TonyF for all your help. I certainly now have a wealth of information to absorb, and hopefully will be able to proceed in my search.
Thank you once again
Linda

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

TonyFDordogne — 2009-09-09 17:43:12Z

OK, final thoughts on this for the original query.

You need to check as to whether the Commune has changed since the birth date that you have. My commune was much much bigger back then and it has now been split into several smaller Communes that have themselves been adapted and amended so the records may be in a different Commune. As the record isn't online, I would write to the Mairie of the Commune concern and throw yourself on their mercy and ask them to do a search for you - also ask them if any of the records are missing at all.

Additionally, if you do decide to apprach the parish, be aware that in rural and semi-rural areas, parishes are often covered by one priest who may cover up to 8 parishes, which themselves may have changed over the years and what was in one parish then may not be the same parish now. And do not assume that the priest or anybody else will help, that does not always happen in France where genealogy can come quite low on the totem pole in rural areas.

The above only comes from years of practical, hands-on research in French country areas so hope it helps.

Regards

TonyF

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

TonyFDordogne — 2009-09-09 17:12:47Z

That's the theory for sure but being France, it isn't always the way things are done. The split between Church and State, no matter how long ago, and subsequent laws means that things should be as you described but it still doesn't happen everywhere and there still can be significant gaps in the Dioscesan records.

I don't know whether you actually work at the Dioscesan or
Departementale Archives but in my experience there can be a whole lot of difference between what should happen and what actually does happen.

TonyF

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

EssexLass — 2009-09-09 16:28:01Z

I was under the impression that parish records post 1792 were completed in duplicate with one copy remaining at the church and the other being stored in the Diocesan Archives as opposed to the Departmental Archives. It is certainly true that pre 1792 parish records are held in the Departmental Archives and for Eure they are online.

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

TonyFDordogne — 2009-09-09 16:06:54Z

Etats Civil have been a way of life in France since just before the Revolution and they remain the property of the State, not of the Church. The records in my Commune start in 1790 (they started a few years after the EC were implemented) so they pre-date the UK by some 40 years or so.

If the records of any Church exist they should/will by law be stored at the Archives Departementales tho in many instances the Church will still have the baptism marriage and death records that they would have been responsible for because of the division between the State and Church - basically, several/many Churches refused to hand them over. But births, marriages and deaths would/should be in the ADs, in this case in Evreaux OR in the Commune.

Protestante Temples covered huge areas so being rural doesn't necessarily prove Catholicism but it is highly likely, if you can't trace him at all, I would suggest the AD is your only bet and remember that many ADs do not provide look up or research services, they will send you a list of private researchers.

Alternatively you could look on the Web to see whether there is a genealogical association locally, when I was working at the Evreaux and Rouen ADs there was always a close link with local genealogical groups.

Regards

Tony Fuller
24220 Berbiguieres
France

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

EssexLass — 2009-09-09 15:51:50Z

I don't know the legal requirements about civil registration in France at that time. The churches would almost certainly be Catholic in such a rural area. I would expect that the church records from the time of civil registration would still be at the churches. Records of registration in British consulates are I believe only available from 1849. It must be very frustrating for you! I have similar blocks where I can't locate the French records due to not knowing the precise location.

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

linda1v4ss — 2009-09-09 07:13:23Z

I do so appreciate the trouble you have taken. I guess the real problem could be that he was born to a British father - we don't know the nationality of his mother. Maybe they did not actually register the birth, if it was not a legal necessity. Do you think I could explore the possibility of a baptism in a local church?
The pages you attached were very interesting, and I have still not totally discarded Charles Honore, as our Charles is sometimes shown as Charles H.
Linda

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

EssexLass — 2009-09-08 20:01:10Z

I had already checked as the indexes are in batches of 10 years and I looked at 1833-1842 and 1843-1852. I attach jpg files of the relevant pages.

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

linda1v4ss — 2009-09-08 16:50:40Z

Thank you for that link. Unfortunately I couldn't access it. Is it possible the date is inaccurate? Would it be easy to check from 1840 to 1845?
Linda

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

EssexLass — 2009-09-08 14:31:12Z

Gersey appears to be a very tiny village, part of the Illiers-l'Évêque commune and is just south of Evreux.
BMD for Eure are available online at
http://archives.cg27.fr/pleade/etatcivil
For Illiers-l'Évêque there are records from 1541 - 1862.
There are two sets of information for civil registrations - the 10 year indexes and the registrations themselves. A quick look in the index doesn't show anyone of that name though. The closest is a Charles Honore Porches - born 19 Feb. 1842. There are also 3 Prier births, but none a Charles nor in 1842. You may find that previously Gersey may have been part of a different commune than it is today.
Good luck!

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

linda1v4ss — 2009-09-08 12:46:32Z

Thank you for your help. I have been unable to confirm that Gersey is a commune - it is not listed on Wikipedia - although that is no proof! We are hoping to go to Evreux for a few days and I wanted to try and establish where we should go in advance to save time while we are there. I will use the information you have kindly sent to do some more research.

Linda

Re: Birth in GERSEY, EURE

TonyFDordogne — 2009-09-08 12:21:32Z

There is no central registry for births in France tho what happens is that - usually/frequently - information about marriages and deaths, divorces etc are annotated on local birth records.

Do you know whether GERSEY is a commune with a consiel in its own right? If it is, you can ask the Mairie (Town Hall) for an extract from their Etats-Civil for the birth.

If it's not a commune in its own right, you need to identify which 'local authority' it fall under and ask them.

But, be aware the Mairie is not bound to send you a copy, if they do, it will be a kindness on their behalf.

Alternatively, you can approach the Archive Departementale for Eure and ask them as they are the repository for records in their Departemente. But, same thing applies, they are not bound to send you the information and they may refer you to a local genealogist/researcher/genealogical group, which you mau have to pay to get the information for you.

Regards

Tony Fuller
24220 Berbiguieres
France

Birth in GERSEY, EURE

linda1v4ss — 2009-09-08 09:08:59Z

We have discovered that Charles Price (Press?) - my husband's ggrandfather was born in Gersey(Jersey), Eure in 1842.
Does anyone know where we might search for his birth certificate?

Linda

Re: Cyr

aktiva — 2009-09-07 15:47:54Z

Does this mean you are an acestor of Louis Sire of Acadia: circa 1690?

If so you are just the person we need to help us clear up a mystery.

As you probably know: there were 3 men with the Sire name original to Canada:

Andre Sire of Quebec arriving 1668 (who actually spelled his name Le Syre) from La Rochelle region.

Pierre Sire (listed in Port Royal 1671 (who actually spelled his name Sirre)origin officially unknown.

and Louis Sire said to be from Normandy.

We have done DNA testing of living males and find Andre and Pierre were not relatives at the time of their arrival: however there are enough markers to suggest that they shared a common ancestor perhaps 400 years or so prior.

We want to determine if Louis Sire is a blood relative to either of these men and so far cannot find a male for testing purposes.

There would be no cost to you: and the test is just a cheek swab.

Would you be interested in adding your DNA to the French Heritage Project? that is a bank of men now in North America with original French ancestors.

Also: do you have real data to support that Louis is originally from Normandy?.........I know we see it posted a lot.......but do actual records exist?

This would help us sort out where the unknown Pierre came from.

Thanks: Suzanne Sears

Guillaume Adam and Marguerite Nicolet, 1662

eydistrict — 2009-07-06 14:20:02Z

Guillaume Adam (dit Laramee) married Marguerite Nicolet at St. Genevieve-en-caux, Rouen, Normandy, France. They had a son Guillaume Adam (Laramee)born in 1662. I would like information on Guillaume and Marguerite, their parents, siblings and the date of their marriage. Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks
David Fournier

Guillaume Adam and Marguerite Nicolet

eydistrict — 2009-07-05 18:19:16Z

I am looking for any information on this couple who married in St. Genevieve-en-caux, Rouen, Normandy, France. They had a son, Guillaume, born in 1662.
Thanks
David Fournier

Re: Jean Aubuchon, Dieppe, France about 1590

jaubuchon1946 — 2009-07-02 23:02:43Z

Thanks you for the information. Do you happen to know where Jean Aubuchon was from?

Jim

Re: Jean Aubuchon, Dieppe, France about 1590

tinaub1 — 2009-07-02 20:15:16Z

Jean Aubuchon was not from Dieppe. He married 1st Catherine LeMarchand from Dieppe and then Anne Gilles a couple of years later.

Braun(Brown)de Vere Families

nanajones71 — 2009-06-21 18:14:54Z

Hello my name is Ruth Jones from Kingston Ontario Canada and I am trying to find my Grandmother's Great or GG Grandparents with the above names over the years I have been told they came from France and Germany. They apparently fled to Scotland when there was an uprising mid to late 1700's. The Grandmother being the French last name and the Granfather being the German last name. There are Dukes and Ducheses in their Families and came from money and when they arrived in Scotland they changed the name to Brown. His first name could have been Johann as first sons are called John. If anyone understands this and can help or tell me where to look all I know is my GGrandfather was William Brown and his Father was James Brown a farmer in Scotland. Thanking you in advance I am Ruth Jones email nanajones71@hotmail.com Hope I can get some help.

Re: D'Orange, Sellier, Greboval, Petit, cherche famille du Dieppe (Seine-Maritime)

Nigel_Worwood — 2009-06-12 09:42:00Z

Hi Debbie

I have been trying to contact you for some time. I believe that you have spent sometime in France but are now back in the UK.

Can you contact me? Nigel Worwood
268 Brook Lane, Sarisbury Green, SO31 7DR or ring 01489 576266

Re: on-line records for departments other than Sarthe - SEGRETAIN

davehurstscooter — 2009-05-26 21:50:13Z

I am researching the Segretain family. This is the family
that left France and wet to Nova Scotia coal mining country
I have not been able to prove the ancestry back past Rene who married Lelievre. I have been told his father was Rene
also and married Marie Goulard (Gayard?) but no luck finding proof.
pappahurst1@bellsouth.net
Dave Hurst
409 W Pryor St
Athens, Al 35611

Re: Famille en Normandie, France

3dragonfly — 2009-03-14 00:42:23Z

Sorry, didn't see your message until more than 2 years later. I'm still here.

Re: Laguette Family in Bolbec France

chrisbouyer1 — 2009-02-08 16:34:35Z

Hello,

I might do researches in Normandy, as I do regularly in France.

You can contact me at chrisbouyer@yahoo.fr

Christophe

Jean Aubuchon, Dieppe, France about 1590

jaubuchon1946 — 2009-02-06 19:35:34Z

Since my last message was in 1999 I thought I would update it and send out another request, but this time in French in hope of someone in Northern France, by chance, might see it and help out all of us who are stuck at this point.

Bonjour,
Je recherche quelqu'un dans Dieppe, France qui pourrait pouvoir découvrir quelques informations de généalogie. Je recherche les parents en Jean Aubuchon b.Dieppe, France abt.1590, mariée (#1) Catherine LeMarchand dans St.Remy Dieppe, La France s'est mariée (#2) Jeanne Gilles. J'ai pour ne pouvoir pas découvrir n'importe quelles informations sur le " ; Aubuchon" ; la famille et suspectent qu'il ait pu y avoir eu un changement de nom tel que le " ; Aubusson" ; Merci à l'avance de n'importe quelle aide. Jim Aubuchon

Laguette Family in Bolbec France

laguettemartha — 2009-02-06 18:46:17Z

Hello

I want to know more about Laguette family from Bolbec, my grear grand father was born there in oct 30 1822.

Thank you

Martha Laguette

Re: St Sever Cemetery, Rouen

rgandkj — 2009-01-12 05:04:32Z

Hi Andrea,
Thankyou so very much for the reply to my request, it is very kind of you to help me.
I would love an emailed copy of the photo as it will be much less hassel for you and i have a very good printer here.
I wish you well on your trip, It will be a very special time for you to see the burial place of your Great Uncle!
Thanks again Karen

Re: St Sever Cemetery, Rouen

andreagillies1 — 2009-01-11 12:30:58Z

Hi Karen, my Great Uncle also died in France and is buried at St Sever. I will be there in late April early May of this year and will do my best to find the grave and take a photo for you. I have the help of a lovely French lady so hopefully we can manage it. Do you want me to email it to you or send a hard copy be general post?

Death in Dieppe, 1836

dnarmit1 — 2009-01-05 01:46:45Z

Est-ce qu'y a-t-il il peux des disques de la mort ou d'enterrement pour Dieppe, où je les trouverait et comment je leur accéder du Canada ? Mon père de ggg est mort ou a été enterré le 1er juin 1836 dans Dieppe, France. Elle n'est pas de savoir s'ils vivaient là alors ou des vacances. Avant cette période de temps ils ont habité à Dublin, Irlande. Je ne suis pas à l'aise en français, mais je peux employer un programme de traduction. Merci Nancy Armit
Are there death or burial records for Dieppe, where would I find them and how can I access them from Canada?
My ggg grandfather died or was buried June 1, 1836 in Dieppe, France. It is not know if they were living there at the time or on a holiday. Before this time period they lived in Dublin, Ireland.
I am not fluent in French, but I can use a translation program.
Thank you
Nancy Armit

Re: Louis Colivet

chrisbouyer1 — 2008-12-08 17:38:53Z

Hello,
I might be able to look for what you want to know in Normandy.
We may discuss about your research at my address : chrisbouyer@yahoo.fr

Christophe

Louis Colivet

queuegirl — 2008-12-07 12:52:18Z

Hello, I am researching a Louis Colivet (born 1837, Normandy, France) and his wife Justine/Augustine) Le Breuiller (born 1836, in France). They moved to Jersey, Channel Islands and had a son John/Jean born in 1860. Louis later remarried a Josephine ? (born 1844 in Portbail, Normandy).

Are there any Colivets in Normandy who have any information on John or Louis Colivet? There's a possibility the surname was Collivet but we're fairly sure the family moved from Normandy to Jersey in the mid-nineteenth century. Would love to hear if you have any information on this. Merci

Re: GUYON Guerin surname

Ohiowelcome — 2008-07-25 01:58:12Z

Linda - is there any connection to the Guerins dit LaFontaine of Quebec in your line?

La Valette, Normandy?

Ray_Timmons — 2008-07-06 21:44:30Z

Does anybody know of a Huguenot church near La Valette, Normandy in the late 1600's or around 1700? First question is which La Valette? (It just means Little Valley.) It is possible that it is the few houses called La Valette near Surville, Manche, Normandy but could be any La Valette.
In the Quakers Church minutes, the burial of Charles Francis TIMMONS, M.D. on 22-Jul-1754 lists his birthplace as La Valette, Normandy, France. I assume his French name would have been Timon. He is buried at the French Huguenot flax drying glenn near Edenderry, Ireland just down the Largan river from the French Huguenot linen weaving center at Lurgan.

Ray

Omer Berube

SophieMacmullen — 2008-06-25 19:14:28Z

Je recherche de l'information sur mon Grandpere Omer Berube marier avec Rachel Gaudet. Ces enfants Raymonde, Gaston(Mon pere) Robert, Muriel, Marcel. sophie.m@standardab.ca

Andre Mailly 12 Avril 1940?

SophieMacmullen — 2008-06-25 19:12:13Z

Je cherche de l'information sur un bebe nee le 12 avril 1940? Pere Aime Mailly Mere Laurentine Huard. Je croix que le bebe n'a pas vecu tres longtemps. Si quelque a de l'information s'il vou plait envoyer moi sur mon email
sophie.m@standardab.ca

Merci

Francois Mailly 1692

SophieMacmullen — 2008-06-25 19:09:24Z

Je cherches des decendent des freres et soeur de Francois Mailly. Ils est parti de la france en 1727 pour le Quebec. J'aimerai beaucoup connaitre mes cousins de la France. Vous pouver m'envoiyer un email a sophie.m@standardab.ca

BRIAND FAMILY/NORMANDY

KathleenGeorge68 — 2008-06-24 20:56:54Z

I am seeking relatives of LEDA (LEADA?) BRIAND c.1864 and her niece AIMEE (AMY?)BRIAND.

LEDA'S father's name was AUGUSTE (AUGUILE?)BRIAND

They came from Normandy and may have been from a shipbuilding family.

LEDA BRIAND was a nurse and married my husband's grandfather in England.

Any help with how I could carry out this search would be appreciated.

Re: Surnames: Mowels (Englsh Spelling). Moels. de Moels

AnneJames28 — 2008-06-20 13:24:02Z

In January 07 you replied to my message on Haute Normandie message board saying that you have a family bible with a tree relating to Baron de Moels. I replied to you asking for details and have heard nothing. Please could you contact me on annegjames@aol.com.

Would love to hear from you asap.

Anne

Re: LeTulle ancestors, Honfleur

Jay_Schexnaydre — 2008-06-07 16:59:26Z

Louis Laurent François Letulle was born 12 Sep 1752 in Villers-Bôcage, Département du Calvados, Région de la Basse-Normandie, France. He died 5 Oct 1835 in Honfleur, Département du Calvados, Région de la Basse-Normandie, France.

He married 31 Aug 1778 at l'Église Catholique de Saint-Pierre; Caen, Département du Calvados, Région de la Basse-Normandie, France to Marie Jeanne Rossignol.

Marie Jeanne Rossignol was born 9 May 1756 at Bretteville-le-Rabet, Département du Calvados, Région de la Basse-Normandie, France and died 7 Oct 1829 in Honfleur, Département du Calvados, Région de la Basse-Normandie, France.

They had at least 9 children, these are some descendants that came to America:

1) son Jean Baptiste Victor Louis Letulle born 14 Jul 1783 in Caen -- died in Guyandotte, Cabell County, WV (Huntington, WV) Some descendants migrated to Texas.

2) (my ancestor) another son Pierre Désiré Letulle born 9 May 1798 in Honfleur died 9 Jul 1866 in Union, St. James Parish, Louisiana. He came with his wife Amélie Baudu and 3 small children: Célèste, Emile & Céline. Amélie died during the voyage to Louisiana. The 3 children married and have numerous descendants.

3) daughter Marie Louise Letulle born 15 Oct 1789 in Honfleur (not sure if she came to Louisiana). She had one known son (fils naturel) Louis Isidore Letulle who was born 22 Nov 1811 in Honfleur and died 4 Sep 1871 in Union, Louisiana. He married twice and had a total of 17 children, numerous descendants, some migrated to Texas.

4) another daughter Marie Sophie Blanche Letulle born 6 May 1793 in Honfleur and died 8 Oct 1855 in Honfleur. She married Jean Martin Prosper Leroy. They had 8 children, one son Ernest Alcide Leroy came to Louisiana also and settled at Donaldsonville where he married Virginie Anastasie Braud and had 8 children.

Rouen 1916 - 1919

carolineewatson — 2008-06-06 11:45:24Z

My great-grandfather, Major George Duncan McGlashan (Royal Engineers, responsible for docks at Rouen through 1917-19. Billetted in large house/chateau belonging to someone called 'Marguerite'. No surname, details etc. Interested in finding any of her family, descendants. We are coming to Rouen between July 12th and 19th next (staying at Houlgate). Would be interested to meet up with anyone with any information on history of the docks and perhaps anyone who has a list of the billets? Many thanks - Caroline Watson.

Re: Cherche famille du Dieppe (Seine-Maritime)

debwor17 — 2008-05-17 18:46:02Z

Je m'excuse mais j'ai pris une petite pause dans la généalogie! J'éspere que vous etes toujours là!
Je voudrais bien recommencer mon enquete avec votre aimable assistance!

Merci

Cymerman family, Croisy-sur-Andelle

juliesz — 2008-04-12 16:09:28Z

Looking for any descendants of Joseph and Denise Cymerman, whose last known residence was Croisy-sur-Andelle, France. They owned a restaurant/bar at some point in the 1940s or 1950s. My family is related to Joseph through his mother, Jozefa Grzesiak Cymerman.

Abraham/Desmarets family

annwyn81 — 2008-03-05 00:58:14Z

Hi,

I'm trying to find information on Godfrey/Godegrand Abraham(Desmarets) (1620-1665) and Denise Fleury (1620-?), parents of Marguerite Abraham. They lived in St-Eustache, Ile-de-France, Paris. However, I'm wondering if Godfray Abraham is connected to the Desmarais/Desmarets or Abraham families in Normandy. I haven't been able to trace his parents, and as far as I know, his origins are unknown. Also, why would the surname 'Desmarets' be omitted from certain records? In most sources he is listed as Godfrey Abraham with no mention of Desmarets.

Thanks you,

Caroline Nadeau

Colonel Richard Pattinson - Heligoland - obituary

mjrhahn — 2008-03-04 02:39:01Z

Colonel Richard Pattinson was the Lieutenant-Governor of Heligoland from 1857-1863. On 2 August 1875, he died at his daughter’s residence, Miss Eleanor Rose Pattinson, at Sonic. His residence was then at Le Havre. Can anyone supply a newspaper reference of this even? Can someone find a cemetery record in Sonic or Le Havre? The family were Protestants (Anglican?).

St Valery-en-Caux, Seine-Maritime

AnnRoots50 — 2008-02-15 14:12:40Z

Hello I wonder could some kind person take a photo of the memorial to the 51st Highland Devision which stands at St Valery. If possible I would like the view to include the sea behind it and another of the inscription.
Thank you so much

Re: Surname

nfastguy1 — 2008-02-05 05:20:54Z

Hi My grandfather name was Pierre Maumoynier and he was born in Benevent France and arrived in the US through Ellis Island in 1907. We are also looking for his family

Re: Chambon

lwysongkidd — 2007-12-02 22:49:18Z

I might have some info for you. I show a passenger list with what appears to be your grandfather at age 10 coming into NY with his brother Raoul and mother Augustine on June 10, 1911. I lost track of Edward but Raoul appears on the 1920 Federal Census in Mo. Augustine remarried. If you are interested contact me at ladee__k@hotmail.com

Cyr

armandcyr1 — 2007-11-14 17:44:53Z

Looking for ancestors and relatives with these names or information about them. Email me if you would like to know more about my line of genealogy.A Cyr, is a Sire, is a Cire, is a Cyre and, by any other spelling, is still a
CYR!The family name 'CYR', is one of the oldest Norman French names and comes from the borders of Normandie and Brittany.ancestors.SIRE,JEAN,m.RAIMBAULT, MARQUERITE

mes ancêtres on arriver au canada en 1660 je cherche toute information au sujet de ma famille sur le Cyr, est un Sire, est un Cire, est un Cyre et, par une autre orthographe, est encore un CYR! Le nom de famille "CYR", est un des plus anciens non de Normandie français vient de l'intérieur des frontières de la Normandie et la Bretagne.le non de mes ancetres SIRE,JEAN,m.RAIMBAULT, MARQUERITE

email armand_jr@sympatico.ca

Re: DE LA RIE family search

chevpower454 — 2007-10-19 07:38:03Z

My Grandfather in Len De la Rie and he was born in Holland but his family where french back ground. I Think his mother was born in the 1800's.