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Surname Hertz in Lyon

tuckedin2 — 2009-10-21 22:09:14Z

I need help researching the surname Hertz from Lyon. My great-grandfather was Henri Hertz, born in Lyon France about 1837. He married Barbara Obendorf in Paris possibly and immigrated to America about 1857.
I would appreciate hearing from anyone having information on this family. They became Hart in America, settling in New York. Thankyou.

Re: Looking for Ancestors in France

chrisbouyer1 — 2009-10-05 16:01:06Z

Maureen,

my e-address : chrisbouyer@yahoo.fr

(not : chrisbouyer1 !)

Christophe

Re: Looking for Ancestors in France

MaureenFoster36 — 2009-10-03 01:34:53Z

email address you included is invalid....
thanks maureen

Re: Looking for Ancestors in France

chrisbouyer1 — 2009-10-02 17:33:09Z

Hello,

I do researches in both France and Switzerland. If you do have additional details, I might propose help.
You may contact me at chrisbouyer@yahoo.fr

Christophe

Re: BERNAZ, DUBOIN, BOCCARD, MAYNET, BOECK SURNAMES - Jacques Jacob Bernaz, born 1623 in Taninges, Flerier, Haute-Savoie, France

JeanneLorf — 2009-09-16 14:35:23Z

My ancestor "Augustin Bernaz" left Taninges in Haute-Savoie in 1700s. He had 10 siblings. He and two of his brothers emigrated to Schifferstadt, Rheinland Phalz, Bavaria. (Germany). His mother was Jeanne Josette Josefa Boccard and his father was Josef Bernaz.

Jeanne Lorf Linley Harding
jeannelinley2000@yahoo.com

Re: Looking for Ancestors in France

MaureenFoster36 — 2009-09-15 06:39:49Z

BAUD....am grand daughter of Marc Auguste Baud b 1892 either in france or switerland.... immigrated to Canada...

died using name BAUD-SIMON....

he lived in Detroit in the 1920's can find no information ecept he died in Quebec Canada....

help !!! M

RAFFIN

ALANVARNEY25 — 2009-08-15 15:31:02Z

DOES ANYONE KNOW OF OR HEARD OF A VICTOR RAFFIN POSSIBLY HAD SISTER BERNICE MARRIED JOSEOPH VARNEY IN THE USA EARLY TO MID 1900s
any info appreciated thanks

Re: Mariage

SandyRopchan15 — 2009-08-09 20:12:03Z

Hi, my name is Sandy and I believe that I may have information re: Theodule Alexander Richard and Marie Prevost.
They are my great grandparents on my fathers side. The history which you have provided is quite similar to the history that I have in my family tree.
My great grandfather emigrated from Savoie, France and married Marie Prevost from Argentina. They had one son Ernest, born in Esperanza, Argentina. They then moved to Peru where they had Nestor in 1903, Odile in 1905, Blanche in 1907, Chester in 1908, and George in 1910. They then moved from Peru to California and then moved to Canada.
Nestor was my grandfather.
If you would like more information regarding this family tree please contact me at sandi45_208@hotmail.com

Francois Savoie Savoye

MichaelB99 — 2009-07-30 03:28:11Z

Im Looking For A Francois Savoie/Savoye Born Abt. 1621 I Have Had No Luck I Tried The Martaize Loudin Vienne In Poitou But There Is No Luck Or Records Of That Person There So I Thought Id Try The Vienne In The Rhone Alpes Region To See If There Might Be A Record Of That Person There Francois Immigrated Abt 1643 To Port Royal Acadia Canada Any Information Or Help Would Be Appriciated God Bless ....

Re: Bray Argoud Ergon

MichaelB99 — 2009-07-30 03:17:18Z

this would be great to stay in touch we maybe distant cousins then you can contact me at mchbrg6@aol.com would love to know what you have on etienne bray

Michael

Re: Recherche sur region lyonnais

josianecorvisier — 2009-07-20 15:47:40Z

les archives de lyon viennent d'être mise en ligne
archives municipales de lyon

Re: Bray Argoud Ergon

Rollerskater61 — 2009-07-12 16:22:27Z

hello mcbrg6,

I am also tracing this family (my natal name is Bray and I descend from Etienne Bray). I have a lot of information on the family, but all from Canada or Minnesota, and none from the French era. I will certainly share if I find anything, and would appreciate if we can stay in touch, if this is an important line for you.

thanks
Michelle Wilson

Re: Base patronymique haut Vivarais

Robinp7 — 2009-07-11 02:39:05Z

I saw your query for info. on the Rochier family. My husband's grandmother grew up in Fayetteville, Arkansas. Her name was Mary Vonceil Rochier. She came from a large family of siblings and half siblings who all had the name Rochier. her grandfather was French and I believe the first one to settle in Arkansas in the mid-1800's. I was talking with my mother-in-law (her daughter) recently about the Rochier history, and she said that some of those siblings ended up in Oklahoma. There is actually a Rochier street in Fayetteville named after the grandfather. The cross street is Paris. We went there recently and took a picture. I haven't been able to find out any more info. I would be interested in any that you have.

Thanks,
Robin

Famille Verzieux

michaelcharlesjohnson — 2009-06-24 19:46:22Z

I am looking for information on this branch of my family. My grandmother was Jeanne Dominique VERZIEUX, born 1881 at Chaponost. Her father was Bartlelemy VERZIEUX (1845-1928), and her mother a DUCARRE. Her sister Madeleine married Michel GAUTIER. One son, Antonin GAUTIER was killed in 1918 with the French Air Force.

I have a photo of Alexandre Verzieux, who may have been a cousin, as Barthelemy had a brother Louis who was probably much younger, this may be Louis's son.

Bray Argoud Ergon

mchbrg6 — 2009-06-07 20:57:49Z

Im Looking For A Etienne Bray Married A Helene Ergon She Was Born Abt 1670 Grenoble France Im Looking For Her Parentage They Had A Son Etienne Bray Baptized April 29 1694 In Montagne Saint-Etienne Etienne Married A Barbe Daze Queniot Feb 21 1724 IN Quebec Any Information On Helene Ergon Argoud

Re: DAVINI research

genealogiadavini — 2009-05-04 15:22:21Z

Site moved http://genealogiadavini.interfree.it

Emilio Chapolard b.5/1841 - John Francis Pradel b.?1870

sgranados1 — 2009-04-08 02:38:05Z

St. ClementSous, Rhone area. Seeking family history on both persons, they are (near/close)cousins.

Chapolard entered priesthood, seminary in Texas,USA. Father died in 1888, mother traveled to USA.

Sent for younger cousin (Pradel) in 1888-1889 to help with mother in USA. ((src. St. Anthony's Caatholic Church, Elmendorf, TX history)) John Francis Pradel is gr-grandfather.

Any info please. sgranados@msn.com Thanks/Merci

Re: Base patronymique haut Vivarais

tlrdwMcmurphy1 — 2008-11-11 23:14:36Z

hello, i'm teresa lynn rochier mcmurphy. i'm researching the rochier name in oklahoma, kansas, missouri. right now i' working on the parents of paul frederi(c)k rochier 1882-1951. i wish you well. who knows we might be cousins? thank you,terri

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

davemcintyr — 2008-09-25 16:21:52Z

Hi Beverly,
We may assume that Joseph and his father returned to France at the end of the American Revolution in 1783. I seem to remember that The History of Brown County recounted that Joseph angered a priest and fled to join LeClerc's army that was stationed in Santo Domingo during the Haitian Revolution. That would probably have been circa 1793 to the time that he showed up in New York City in 1799. (LeClerc wasn't sent until 1800, which was after Joseph's appearance in New York.) So, he may have returned to France for a few years.

As for the JOHNS family, I haven't found any firm leads. Email me at kwassmcintyre@yahoo.com and I will send my notes.

Thanks,
Kathleen Wass McIntyre

Jacques Jacob Bernaz, born 1623 in Taninges, Flerier, Haute-Savoie, France

JeanneLorf — 2008-09-24 14:47:27Z

I am researching Bernaz in Taninges, Fierer, Haute-Savoie, France. Jacques Jacob Bernaz was born 1623. His father Pierre Bernaz was born 1604 in Bellavaux, Savoyen, France.

Augustin Bernaz born 1695, and three of his brothers emigrated to Schifferstadt, Rheinland Phalz, Germany (Bavaria) in 1724.

Researching surname Bernaz.

Please write to Jeanne Lorf Linley Harding at jeannelinley2000@yahoo.com.

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

bevrutledge2 — 2008-09-24 00:33:49Z

Read the message just after yours (well, after this repsonse) from davemcintyre (actually, it is from Kathleen Waas McIntyre)....about a possibility for this line.

It makes some sense to me that one family member MIGHT "follow" someone from the family here---although 1890 is a l-o-n-g time afterwards!!

I appreciat the place name hint. There appears to be some connection in physical place....whether they are "kin" or not remains to be seen...
Beverly

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

bevrutledge2 — 2008-09-24 00:14:13Z

I am more excited than I have the words to express.
Thank you so much for your willingness to share the information.

I have had the information from the book for a number of years---but never had any reason to believe that the Joesph listed was so young! Nor that the other one listed was his father!!

Amazing. Amazing!!

Thanks again.
Beverly

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

davemcintyr — 2008-09-23 22:43:39Z

Just this week a couple of Ginouves researchers in France sent us this information on Joseph:

BAPTISMAL CERTIFICATE : GINOUVES Joseph Marie.

TOULON : PARISH st MARIE, page n° 93.

The year 1770, August the twenty seventh (1770/08/27) was baptized by us priest, Joseph Marie GINOUVES born today in this parish, naturalness and legitimate son of Pierre François GINOUVES, gunner, absent and ROUX Marguerite. The godfather was François ARNAUD, the godmother Marie Anne TROUIN who said she don’t know write. The godfather signed.

Arnaud

Priest BROQUIER

We know from "Les Combatants Francaus de la Guerre Americaine 1778-1783" by Du Ministere des Affaires Etrangeres, Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Co., 1969, that Joseph and his father Pierre Francois Ginouves (b. ca 1745) were born in Toulon. We do not have any information past that.
One of the French researchers emailed Toulon online archives to us, and some Var records are online. We may find more with diligence.

I hope that we will one day compile the history of the family Ginouves.

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

gginouves2 — 2008-09-19 17:59:00Z

FYI, I was able to get in touch with a distant cousin in France, who gave me lots of information on our Ginouves line. I have information back to a Jean Antoine Ginouves who died before 1693. His decendants were in Lavalette-du-Var, Var, in the 1600's where the line stayed until the early 1800's. They then show up in Nevers. I don't know if that is any help, but if you can tie into my line at all, I have a bit of info. on the LDS site, familysearch.org.

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

bevrutledge2 — 2008-09-17 10:45:07Z

I am thinking probably not..........
BUT! I deeply apreciate the French area place! It gives me another place to look. We have drawn a blank so for---but this is new!

Joseph (Americanized to) Genoways was here by 1780 -- we think probably he was here slightly before that. There are a group of (Anglecized) Genoways in Candada that you might contact.

ONE of the many early-stories was that there were two Ginouves brothers who came but one went to Canada. So far we have not been able to prove -- or disprove -- that.

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

gginouves2 — 2008-09-17 01:49:43Z

Well, this is interesting. I thought my husband's line was the only Ginouves line in the U.S. We have an Octave Ginouves who immigrated from Never(?) France in 1890. I haven't found a Joseph Ginouves, but I wonder if they are related in some way.

Re: Recherche Solaize

lucieservole — 2008-08-17 15:06:33Z

Hi Peggy:

Do you have their e-mail? If so, try it. If no response after a certain time, then write to them.

Good luck!

Lucie Servole Myers

Re: Recherche Solaize

peggyyoungs1 — 2008-08-17 13:52:14Z

Merci Lucie pour cette information. Is it possible to send a request by email or is it better to request by postal mail?

Thank you for your help,
Amicalement,
Peggy

Re: Recherche Solaize

lucieservole — 2008-07-23 09:29:45Z

Hi Peggy:

Write a letter (preferably in French) to:

Mairie de Solaize
47 Place de la Mairie
69360 Solaize
France

and ask for the birth and marriage certificates of your ancestor.

Cordially,
Lucie

Recherche Solaize

peggyyoungs1 — 2008-07-22 16:13:36Z

Can someone tell me where to find parish records for Solaize, Rhône, France? I would like to have a copy of the marriage record for Claude Gagniard and Benoite Dumond, married 20 June 1778. The Family History Library in Salt Lake City seems not to have any records for this commune.

I understand Benoite Dumond was born 28 March 1754 in Solaize (proof?). Claude Gagniard may have been born in Saint-Martin-du-Mont or Solaize.

My fourth-great-grandmother Gabrielle Henriette Gagniard, daughter of this couple, was born 21 October 1781 in Lyon.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Re: Ginouves, Joseph

bevrutledge2 — 2008-07-17 11:46:05Z

Good morning, David!

I am interested in your post concerning g-g-g-g-g grandfater, Joseph Marie Genoways.

I am more delighted than I have words to speak that you feel that the three refernces you mnetioned are, indeed, all the same guy and is OUR guy to boot!

We beleive he was in New York for a time because a couple of the children later identify New York as their birth place. Then he moved to Conneticut (where a couple more children were born) and then to Ohio, where he died in 1836 in Brown County.

Right NOW I am focused on figuring out something about Elizabeth Johns, his wife.

What have you discovered about her??

Ginouves, Joseph

davemcintyr — 2008-06-14 21:24:01Z

Seeking information on family of Joseph Marie Ginouves (Genoway) and various spellings.
Joseph was born 1760-1765 in Toulon, Provence, Cote de Azure, France.
Joseph served as a Mousse, or cabin boy, aboard a warship with Le Marseillais. 1788-1793 [Joseph Marie Ginouves; Toulon, France - Combattants Francais.] Francois Ginouves served as a gunner.
Joseph left the French navy and operated a tavern in New York City in 1799.

Looking For Victor Soboul, grandfather

JosephSoboul28 — 2008-04-20 10:10:46Z

Sobol, Sabol,and other variations, while not common by any means, are nevertheless found in most telephone white pages in the U.S. As far as I know no one else in the U.S. has the Soboul spelling. France is another story: there are at least 98 on one telephone listing I came across.
Victor Soboul, my grandfather, was born in France on 5 May 1851 and died at Cantrall, Illinois on 13 March 1925. Victor came to the U.S. in 1880. His wife, born in Switzerland, was Pauline Stadley (DeStadleaux?) The spelling of Pauline's surname is not clear as it is listed on different documents differently. She came to the U.S. in 1883. In any case Frank Laliron is connected to her as his Aunt lived in Paris and I have a letter from her dated in 1936. Frank came to the U.S. in 1883. I haven't been able to connect old with new: how they got here. I do know that their first child Rose Emma Soboul was born in Pennsylvania in 1886 (where??)
Victor had a brother Jacques Soboul who was living in the New York City area in 1925. He left Cantrall, I assume after Victor's death.

Arthur St. Pierre & Belle Dancose

MMullin73 — 2008-04-12 21:47:51Z

Looking for any information on these two. They are my great grandparents born in Marseille France and died in Ontario, Canada. My Great Grandmother Belle said she had no family and was brought up by nuns. Said she was somehow related to the Papineau. She said she had no family. As for Arthur I have no information other than he worked with furs in Toronto with the hudson Bay company. I have not found out any info. Belle would have been born about 1889 or around there. i am not sure about Arthur. Please, if you can help me locate these two it would greatly appreciated!!!!

Thank you,
Moira

Re: Willem Ten Have composer 1830-1924

GloriaSchroeder44 — 2008-03-28 02:22:49Z

I am interested in the list of compositions you mentioned. I have tried to piece together Ten Have's works, but there are many empty spaces. Would you be willing to send me the list?

Willem Ten Have was born in Amsterdam, and was a child prodigy on the violin. He studied with DeBeriot, and moved to France. He taught in Lyon, and married there. Later, they moved to Paris, where he died. If you would like more details, please email me at gschroeder@charter.net.

Re: Willem Ten Have composer 1830-1924

tonkit — 2008-03-28 00:50:22Z

Gloria, could you share the information with us please.

I have an old copy of the 'Allegro Brilliante' which lists his compositions, up to op.36.

The edition is dated 1893, so the dates 1886-1910 would seem impossible.

Re: THERESE

turitaturi — 2008-02-12 04:57:04Z

please enter www.castrovalle.tribalpages.com for the berlioz family in Honduras...

Claudia Castro

Re: Willem Ten Have composer 1830-1924

GloriaSchroeder44 — 2008-02-07 04:19:25Z

Sorry, you have the wrong Willem Ten Have. There have been several men with this same name through time. I have carefully researched this composer, and the dates are correct.

Re: Willem Ten Have composer 1830-1924

asdasd1693 — 2008-02-07 04:09:19Z

Correction. He lived 1886-1910
Grade RCM book is my source.

Re: Mariage

ddaej — 2008-01-17 22:36:58Z

Bonjour,

Merci beaucoup pour cette information et le site Internet. Je vais écrire à St Michel de Maurienne, pour plus d'informations.

Merci

Re: Mariage

jerhamon — 2008-01-17 21:53:38Z

Bonjour,

Vous pouvez consulter les archives de la Savoie qui sont en ligne (mais la consultation est payante):
http://www.sabaudia.org/v2/

Vous y trouverez sans difficulté la naissance de Théodule (sans doute à St Michel et non St Michelde (erreur de frappe?) appelé aujourd'hui St Michel de Maurienne depuis 1953.

Pour le mariage, cela risque d'être impossible sur le net car les registres d'état-civil s'arrêtent à 1880.

Le mariage a lieu, assez souvent, dans la commune de la mariée.
Sinon, vous pouvez toujours essayer d'écrire à la Mairie de St Michel de Maurienne pour qu'il vous envoie une copie de l'acte de mariage.
A noter que moins on est précis sur la date du mariage, moins on a de chance d'avoir une réponse...

Mariage

ddaej — 2008-01-17 16:19:17Z

Je suis à la recherche de l'enregistrement d'un mariage pour Théodule Richard Alexander né Feb5 ou 18, 1865 à Saint Michelde, Savoie France. Il a épousé Marie Adele Preovst (Pruvost). Ses parents étaient Ernesto Pruvost et Adele Guilhaum. Ils ont quitté la France pour se rendre à l'Amérique du Sud, autour de 1900-1901. Ils ont ensuite vécu aux Etats-Unis, puis au Canada.

Par ailleurs, il serait merveilleux de trouver Théodule ses parents. Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider? Où devrais-je commencer à chercher? J'habite en Alberta, au Canada.

Re: VOLAY of Lyon

familybranchesgenealogy — 2008-01-15 15:26:17Z

Hi Rita!

Thank you for the link. I took 2 years of French in high school (about 8 years ago) so I'm a little rusty, but remember enough to get by on the site.

I am pretty sure some of them are my ancestors. I have to get some definitive sources on them though.

Thanks again! I really appreciate it!
Heidi

Re: VOLAY of Lyon

familybranchesgenealogy — 2008-01-15 15:10:52Z

Hi Dave,

I don't think I heard back from you with the family information. If you could, please email me at familybranchesgenealogy @ yahoo.com.

Thanks so much!
Heidi

Famille Vulliez/Morand - Le Biot, Haute Savoie

denisehumphrey_1 — 2007-12-28 11:19:24Z

Je cherche de l'information sur mon grand pere Jean Morand mort en 1922 a La Baume suite de la Premiere Guerre Mondiale et de la famille Vulliez/Poll;ien de La Touviere et Nicodex. Je suis la famille de Rennee Morand et j'habite en Angleterre car mon pere etait Edward Bennett.

Re: Willem Ten Have composer 1830-1924

lthompsn_1 — 2007-11-28 16:02:01Z

Family tree information is available at http://home.versatel.nl/ria.dessauvagie/Engels/parthaeng.htm
under section Xc.

Re: VOLAY of Lyon

familybranchesgenealogy — 2007-11-09 17:33:55Z

I tried replying to your email but it came back to me for some reason.

I just wanted to say thank you! And that I'm eagerly awaiting what you have...

Heidi

Re: VOLAY of Lyon

rinezasud — 2007-11-08 19:11:45Z

Here is a link to généanet.org - a database search in France. There are a few VOLAY in Lyon - people who have this name in thier family trees and have their data nases online.
regards (hoping that the link works)
Rita Pujolas

http://search.geneanet.org/result.php3?lang=fr&name=Vola...

Re: VOLAY of Lyon

dehaas99 — 2007-11-06 20:10:07Z

I did receive your message and will be sending those pieces of information along with the pictures I have in the next few days. In the week after the funeral I had too much work to catch up on and I had a wedding in Houston over the weekend so I've had a busy month. Did you get the previous message about the story Aunt Rose wrote about her family and parents? I will call my Uncle Elroy to see if he still has the original.

That's about it for now until I can get into my stuff at home to send you. Stay in touch. You can also get me at the email address dhaas @ sourcelinemedia.com. Disregard the spaces in the email address. Some boards won't let you post them.

Stay in touch.
Dave

Re: VOLAY of Lyon

familybranchesgenealogy — 2007-11-06 15:31:13Z

Hi again, dehaas99. I hope you got my past message. I'm Rose Volay's great-granddaughter. I'm hoping you get my message so we can be in touch and exchange information.

Hope to hear from you soon!! :) Heidi