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Re: Johan George Abel 1754 Germany

fabel33901 — 2012-04-29 01:59:49Z

to janekeen133 My husband Lou Abel is related to Johan George Abel. His Grandfather is John Harrison Abel. His Great is Peter K Abel and his Great Great is Johannes Abel. His 3rd great is George Abel and his 4th Great is Johan George Abel. I have found the boat listing for Johan George and his father Johan Stefan Abel. They arrived in Philadelphia on Nov 7th 1754 aboard the John and Elizabeth Ship. The boat Captain was Peter Ham. I have no computor at home but have to go to the Library or a friends. Most of his family are buried at Canadochly Cemetary in Lower Windsor twsp in York Pa. It is the Canadochly Reformed Lutheran Church.

Re: Johan George Abel 1754 Germany

janekeen133 — 2012-04-23 14:48:17Z

Hi. Hope you still respond. I'm from Pa and I was given some info on my mom's side. The paper states--Johann Michael Abel, Johann Peter Abel, and Johann Stephan Abel were born and lived in Germany. Then, in 1754, George, the son of Johann Stephen and Anna Abel, came to america. He landed in Phila. and proceeded to York county. During the Revolutionary war, he enlisted in the German Regiment, the Hessian army. There was a Camp Security in York county during the R. war. And George was considered an enemy. He may have been a prisoner of war at that camp. hope you have more info. Thanks, Jane Keen

Re: HELP! Looking for Abel Family History Book

abelnancy1 — 2012-04-18 23:22:53Z

Mine is: Nancy Abel, Edward R Abel Roy Grant Abel
and Conrad Abel and Henry Abel. from Germany
We seemed to get to OH and then just stayed. Can't
find any interim place between Germany (Hess Kassel)
Nancy

Re: HELP! Looking for Abel Family History Book

ctommila1 — 2012-04-18 20:34:28Z

I have been told by my MN Ables that we have relatives in Ohio, Iowa and W. Virginia for sure. My Grandfather is James Robert Able (1913-1990, buried in Marshalltown, Iowa) Great grandfather Charles Nopp Ables,followed by James P. Able, William Henry Abel, John Abel, Johann Georg Ebel, Johann Adam Ebel, Johann Phillip Ebel.

Re: Abel

mi2early — 2012-04-09 18:27:36Z

Some dates and locations would be useful to those willing to help. Good luck!

Abel

anedwards43 — 2012-04-09 15:46:26Z

Any info on ancestors of Beatrice Hannah Abel would be appreciated.
A Edwards

Re: William Abel, Denmark to USA

98136 — 2012-03-22 16:43:38Z

I don't have information on William Abel. I, too, would like more.
I am the daughter of John Bonzano Abel (dob: 08.31.27) the son of Harry Alexander Abel. Harry Abel is one of the sons of William Abel. John Abel is still alive.

Harry A. Abel married Margaret M. Nolan

They had four children
Ruth Abel
Joseph Abel
Harry Abel
John Abel

Sincerely,
Margot Abel Newman

Stella Able (or Abel) Moore (Dec 1876 - ?) m James Moore 1892

MidwestAncesTree — 2012-02-06 18:54:35Z

Searching for info on Stella Able, daughter of George Able and Elizabeth Hill; married James Edward Moore in 1892 in Bartholomew County, Indiana. I have her in the 1880, 1900, 1910 and 1920 census, but then lose her.
She is residing in Columbus, Bartholomew County, Indiana thru all those years. I have attached a copy of her family tree.
Thank you in advance

Re: Henry Abel-Mildred Fields Abel-Shelby Co, Indiana

alishaabel86 — 2012-02-06 17:11:56Z

My husband Jeff B Abel is George Abel's great grandson..George was my husbands grandpa Ray's father..Ray also had a older brother named Roy..Ray n Roy were not raised by George because there mother Clara Means Abel ( Georges Wife ) died when the boys where every young..therefore the boys were raised by there mothers parents Eli and Tibithia Means..I am very curious about George and who I believe to be his father Henry..I would like to know who is Henry father also what was Henry occupation..I have found documents from the Means family history ( from the book The Means Family of America) that has the Abel name on them to be precise it say Abel House Act and also Abel House Admin on what appears to be a estate sale on the property me and my husband live on today..if you have any information contact me at alishaabel86@gmail.com

John Abel-Mary Himes-mar bef 1818-Philadelphia

dtb1322 — 2011-12-14 13:05:53Z

Looking for any information on John Abel who married Mary Himes in Philadelphia before 1818. Their children were Sarah b1818, John b1819, Ann Catherine b1823, Mary b1826, Margaret b1829, Samuel b1834 and Charles b1838. Mary was a widow by 1840. I know the marriages of all these children except Samuel and Charles.

Concerning Ludwig Heinrich Abel/ Lewis Henry Abel of Wythe County, Virginia

pmanilio — 2011-12-13 23:53:12Z

Greetings Abel kindred, there has been some bad research going about for decades relating to Lewis Henry Abel married to Elizabeth Wampler who died in Wythe County, VA circa 1801.

It has been claimed that he is the son of Konrad Ludwig Abel and Eva Regina Boson/ Eva Regina Bojon of Vaihingen an der Enz, Württemberg. I have discovered evidence that in my opinion contradicts and disproves that entirely.

As far as I can tell, the origin of this Konrad Ludwig Abel and Eva Regina Boson business is the researcher Dr. Thomas Robert (Bob) Hopkins. He is descended from Peter Abel son of Lewis Henry Abel of Wythe County, VA. My grandmother a descendant of David Abel son of Lewis Henry Abel corresponded with him in the mid 1990s and received a packet of information from Bob Hopkins about our Abel ancestors.

The first page reads:

"
PREFACE
The first fully documented ancestor of this family is Ludwig Heinrich (Lewis Henry) Abel. Lewis was born in Germany and was brought to Philadelphia by his father. He is next found in old Fincastle Co. Virginia in 1773. Much is known of Lewis and it is believed that what follows is true and logical.
HISTORY
It is believed that the parents of Lewis Abel are Konrad Ludwig and Eva Regina Boson Abel.

Konrad and Eva Regina were both born in Wurttemberg, Germany. The Parish Records (1) of Wurttemberg indicate that Konrad was born about 1730 and Eva Regina Boson, on 5 March, 1730. They were married 3 January, 1749.

Konrad and Eva Regina had the following children:

(1) Christian Cunradin, born 25 February, 1750, married Marie Elizabeth Stockmayer prior to 1786 in Philadelphia. He died in Philadelphia ca 1790. Their children are unknown.
(2) Jakob was born 9 May, 1751 and died in Philadelphia in 1779.
(3) Ludwig Heinrich was born 9 September, 1752.
(4) Louise Regina , born 31 January, 1753.
(5) J. Dor, born 4 May, 1755 (female), died 10 May, 1760.
(6) Regina, born 25 February, 1757 and died 17--,1760.
(7&8) Chr. and Catharin, twins born 16 December, 1758 and died 18 December, 1758.

One day after the death of the twin children, Eva Regina the mother also died. It is believed that shortly after, in 1759, Konrad and the surviving children came to Philadelphia.

Konrad was a "dyer" by trade and was naturalized 8 September, 1764 in Philadelphia. Nothing further is known of the family except Lewis our ancestor.

Lewis migrated to Fincastle Co. Virginia and apparently took over 249 acres of land from the "Loyal Co.", either by being a squatter, or through purchase. (A value of Three Pounds/ 100 Acres had been placed on the Company's land by the courts). This land became a part of Montgomery Co. and later Wythe Co., Virginia. It is located on the South Fork of the Holston River joining Iron Mountain. Later, in 1783, Lewis purchased 225 acres on Reed Creek.

Lewis is next listed as "Louis Abell", a Private, in the Company of Captain Bosseron's Volunteers dated 27 October, 1778 to 17 December, 1779 and endorsed by General George Rogers Clark. He paid taxes in Montgomery Co. in 1782.
…
(1) Vaihingen Parish Records Wurttemberg, Germany"

Nowhere is evidence provided that directly links our Lewis Henry Abel who settled in Wythe County, VA to the Lewis Henry Abel born 9. September 1752 in Vaihingen. Nor is evidence provided linking Konrad Abel the dyer living in Philadelphia with the Konrad Abel of Vaihingen an der Enz. There is also no establishment of a link between our Lewis Henry Abel who settled in Wythe County, VA with Konrad Abel the dyer living in Philadelphia, PA. Bob Hopkins cites several records, but the records he cites does not establish that the people the records mention are the same people (with the exception of the Lewis Abel living in Fincastle, that is beyond a doubt our ancestor.)

I have discovered several sources that demonstrate the Abels (including the Ludwig Heinrich Abel and the Konrad Ludwig Abel) living in Vaihingen an der Enz, Württemberg are not our kindred and are separate people from the Konrad Abel living in Philadelphia and the Ludwig Heinrich Abel of Wythe County, VA.

First there is:
Ferdinan Friedrich Faber, Die Württembergischen Familien-Stiftunge: Siebentes Heft, (Stuttgart: Verlag von Franz Köhler, 1853), 81, 118.

http://books.google.com/books?id=VGoKAAAAIAAJ&printsec=f...

On page 81, there is a Conradin Ludwig Abel who was born 9. July 1718 in Stuttgart. He was an Oberamtmann (Superior Magistrate) in Vaihingen an der Enz. He married Eva Regina the daughter of Jacob Gottlieb Bojon 3. June 1749 in Vaihingen. She died 1758. He remarried 25. August 1772 in Biertigheim (Baden-Württemberg) to Dorothea Margareta the widow of Hanz the Bürgermeister of Marbach.
From his first marriage with Eva Regina Bojon four children are listed:
a. Christof Conrad
b. Jacob Friedrich
c. Ludwig Heinrich
d. Louise Regina (born 20. February 1754)
The lives of the first three are continued later on the same book.

On page 118 of the same book is Christof Conradin Abel who was born 25. February 1750. He was a landschafts consulent in Stuttgart. He married Marie Elisabeth the daughter of Friedrich Amandus Stockmayer on 3. September 1776. There are ten children listed as being born from this union. All are listed a being born in some city in Germany.

Also on page 118, is Jacob Friedrich Abel who was born in Vaihingen 9. May 1751. He died in 1829. He was a professor of philosophy at the Academy at Stuttgart. He married Luise Ros. Wilhelmina the daughter of Christian Gottlieb Schmid on 28. February 1786 at Schorndorf, Württemberg. He remarried on 22. November 1810 at Esslingen, Württemberg to Friedrike Beate Rieger.

Also on page 118, is Ludwig Heinrich Abel who was born 8. September 1752. He was an Amtmann in the Hochberg district of Württemberg, an Oberamtmann in Nagold, Württemberg, again in Möckmühl, Württemberg, and again in Münsingen, Württemberg. He married Jacob Amalie the daughter of Jacob Gottlieb Mörike on 12. July 1781at Ludwigsburg, Württemberg. From that union he had three children: Gottlieb Ludwig Abel born in Ludwigsburg (18. June 1782), Charlotte, and Carl.

From that book alone, there seems to be evidence enough that the Abels from Vaihingen did not come to America, and therefore cannot be our Abel ancestors. Bob Hopkins seems to have used the baptismal records from Vaihingen an der Enz, but did not check to see if the Abels from Vaihingen an der Enz stayed, led their lives, and died in Germany. That books seems a more reliable source of information than the research from Bob Hopkins.

There are more books that further add to the narrative of the Abels from Vaihingen an der Enz.

Verein für Hamburgische Geschichte, Mittheilungen (Hamburg: Verlag von W. Mauke Söhne, 1878), 141-144.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hSEPAAAAYAAJ&printsec=f...

On page 141 is a biography of Christoph Cunradin Abel of Vaihingen an der Enz, Württemberg. His career as a government official is noted

Julius von Hartmann, Schillers Jugendfreunde, (Stuttgart: Druck der Union Deutche Verlagsgesellschaft in Stuttgart, 1904), 95-96.

http://books.google.com/books?id=FM87AAAAMAAJ&printsec=f...

On page 95 in the above is written a subsection on Friedrich Schiller's professor Jacob Friedrich Abel. I have translated the first paragraph of that section:

"Quite a few of its best families Swabia received by the error of the counter-reformation from Austria. The Kerner, Hegel, Stockmayer, Mohl, Hauss, Reuss, Flattich, Hoffman, Hardegg come from Protestants who had abandoned their country rather than their beliefs. So also the Abels wandered at the end of the sixteenth century from Styria through Baden, and then come to a rest in the mid-seventeenth to Württemberg. Here spread the progeny in several branches of the diplomat and lawmaker Konradin Abel (1665-1735). One of his sons, Konrad Ludwig, was Oberamtmann and bailiff in Vaihingen an der Enz, the father of three sons: the Württemberg, later Hanseatic diplomat Konradin Christoph (1750-1823), our professor Jakob Friedrich and Ludwig Heinrich (1752-1819), who was chief magistrate in several districts of the country, including in Möchmühl, where Louise Franth wrote in 1805 to her brother Schiller: the Oberamtmann is a brother of Professor Abel in Tübingen and the latter will come this summer to visit this place."

This further shows that the Ludwig Heinrich Abel born 1752 at Vaihingen an der Enz stayed in Germany, and cannot be our ancestor.

This website:
http://www.martinszeller-verband.de/genealogie/getperson.php...

has Konrad Ludwig Abel as having died in Vaihingen an der Enz on 27. June 1796. I am not sure where the author gets the death date from, but they have death dates for Ludwig Heinrich Abel.

As for the Conrad Abel that is the dyer in Philadelphia there is evidence that he cannot be the Konrad Abel from Vaihingen.

http://immigrantservants.com/servant/show.php?servant=1016

This website has him arriving from London to Philadelphia in 1745.

This book further elaborates upon the life of Conrad Abel the Dyer:
http://books.google.com/books?id=c5FLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA131&a...

It lists the children that appear in his will. There is not a Lewis Henry Abel listed; however, that does not necessarily mean. that he could not be his son. As sometimes children if they moved were already given their inheritance.

In my opinion, we do not know who Lewis Henry Abel of Wythe County, VA's parents.
I implore everyone to update their data and remove the birth date of 1752 from Lewis Henry Abel's profiles, as it is not his birth date. His parents were NOT Konrad Ludwig Abel and Eva Regina Bojon/Boson.

ABEL Steven Craig 1950-2011 Morgan County, Ohio

Lace_Lynch — 2011-11-22 12:25:30Z

LANCASTER: Steven Craig Abel passed suddenly on November 20th, 2011.
Son of the late Albert and Harriette Abel born on February 24, 1950 in Pennsville, Ohio.
Mr. Abel was a 1968 graduate of Morgan High School in McConnelsville, Ohio.
He worked at Taylor Woodcraft in Malta, Ohio for 27 years. After they closed he went to Burnham Foundry in Zanesville for 10 years.
Most recently he was employed by IGA in Baltimore, Ohio.

He was a devoted husband, father and grandfather and will be sadly missed by his wife Vicky (Drake) to whom he was married on February 26, 1971, his children Jim Abel (John Corba) of Butler and Staci Carpenter (Steve) and grandchildren Ryan, Cara, and Craig Carpenter.

Steve loved hunting and fishing.

He lived in Morgan County, Ohio most of his life until moving to Lancaster in 2004.

While there he served on McConnelsville City council for nine years and held various offices including President of Local Union 3004 of Carpenters and Joiners.

He was preceded in death by his mother and father and sister Martha Ball of Beverly, Ohio.
He is survived by two sisters Wanda Mizer (Robert) of North Myrtle Beach, SC and Laverta Heinzman of Grove City, OH. Contributions may be made to the American Heart Association in Steve's memory.
At Steve's request, no calling hours will be observed. Caring cremation will take place through the FRANK E. SMITH FUNERAL HOME and a celebration of his life will be held at a later date.

Re: Abel brothers born 1790's to the early 1800's in Abbeville Dist SC

RossSmith53 — 2011-11-16 06:26:54Z

Hello,
Thanks for the reply but the five Abel brothers I referred to were John B Abel and Joseph Abel and James Abel and Moses Abel and one other
Abel all born 1793 to the early 1800's in Abbeville Dist SC.
Tanks, Ross

Re: Abel brothers born 1790's to the early 1800's in Abbeville Dist SC

MarilynAbel15 — 2011-11-16 02:48:50Z

I know that my great great grandfather was one of five brothers that came from SC. One was named Eliga and another was Elisha, I my have spelled them wrong but it was something like tha

Abel brothers born 1790's to the early 1800's in Abbeville Dist SC

RossSmith53 — 2011-11-09 01:22:36Z

Do any of you descend from the five Abel brothers born in the 1790's to the early 1800's in Abbeville Dist SC. They left SC and were in Tennessee by 1818 and left Tenn and went to eastern Alabama by 1833. thanks, Ross

Re: Ann Ameila Abel 1883 1946

tbirdismypride11 — 2011-11-08 18:23:16Z

Hi, The Abel I am researching died and is buried in South Carolina USA so I do not believe this to be the same you are looking for.

Re: Ann Ameila Abel 1883 1946

wsabel1 — 2011-11-08 17:41:16Z

Greetings! I believe this person is my Great Aunt who I
never actually knew. If this is the correct person she
would have been born in Fernhurst, Sussex England about
1883. She moved to Salina, Kansas and studied languages
and graduated from the University of Kansas. She had a
relatively famous sister who was a professor of history
at Smith College and wrote a series of books called "Indian
Slave Holders" which are still used as textbooks today. I
was born in 1946 in Aberdeen, Washington. Ann is buried
in the cemetary in Montesano, Washington in a grave marked
ABEL. I hope I am correct. Tell me what you know...William
Abel

Ann Ameila Abel 1883 1946

tbirdismypride11 — 2011-11-07 18:32:54Z

I am searching for any information on this person. I know that this person Married James David Braziel. Little else is known about this person. I would appreciate any help you could provide.

Re: HELP! Looking for Abel Family History Book

abelnancy1 — 2011-10-11 05:13:16Z

I have thought of the Hession connection. MY Henry Abel was here in Vermillion OH in 1820 just came from Germany. But don't know when. He had brothers

Re: HELP! Looking for Abel Family History Book

abelnancy1 — 2011-10-11 05:11:04Z

I have these names living around us when my Dad grew up. George Patch was one, English I think. My dad made fun of him.

Re: were do you fit in the abel familychain email cabel2@adelphia.

abelnancy1 — 2011-10-11 05:08:29Z

Don't know, but I have a book of a Henry Abel from Oregon I believe.

Re: Louis A. Abel, St. Louis Missouri 1920

nola70118 — 2011-10-05 01:11:08Z

While I don't have information on Louis Abel, I do have information on his father Francis' family from Louisiana. Please email me at anne70115@yahoo.com and we can share info.

Re: home children to canada

collectables_1 — 2011-08-22 16:39:45Z

have now found abraham abel,i think, on british home children archives toronto,listed as abell,1908,and a passnger list,ss kensington,going to mrs genier b.c,via salvation army,hayes union,why he would have been in hayes,uk,as he lived in wales,no idea,others on list stopped in toronto,he went on to bc,aged 15yrs,

Re: ABEL--Please read this message

jeffgrant2323 — 2011-07-22 14:33:46Z

In the list of children, did you come accross a William Jacob Abel? I'm really stumped on him, have been researching him for the past year. I have his birth as 1850 in Wurttemberg, Germany, and arrived in USA in 1855 at age 5. Then nothing until 1873 when he married in Iowa. I am tring to find parents, and any info from 1855 to 1873.

William is my great grandfather.

Otis J. Abel in San Angelo, TX 1942

drbrownlee — 2011-07-10 05:08:32Z

Otis is pictured in the 1942 yearbook of the San Angelo (TX) Army Air Field, Bombardier School. I'm not kin but thought his might help someone researching the family.

Looking for Abel from KY/ NC area

pitthomegirl — 2011-05-31 17:10:07Z

I have traced back my Abel ancestry to my ggggg grandfather William Abel. I am stuck now. I know William had a son named James J Abel born 5 November 1825 in Caswell County, North Carolina married to a Susannah. James and Susannah had a son named Perry Abel born 1 Feb 1839 near Somerset, Pulaski County, KY married to a Francis "Fanny" Dick born 31 December 1848 in Somerset Kentucky. If you have any information that might help me please feel free to send me an email at pitthomegirl@yahoo.com. thanks!
Sabrina Abel

Re: Marriage of William H Abel/Able and Elizabeth White

jamyers196 — 2011-05-31 17:07:48Z

I don't believe my William Abel has a son named James by either of his wives. Thank you for your reply.

Re: Marriage of William H Abel/Able and Elizabeth White

pitthomegirl — 2011-05-31 16:59:22Z

I have a William Abel in my family. not sure who he was married to. I am still attempting to find things out about most of my family. William Abel I have on my family tree has a son named James J Abel born November 5, 1825. I hope this might help some.

Margaret Louisa and Richard Amos Abel

kiricolgan — 2011-05-30 00:53:20Z

Hello all,
If you could, does anyone know anything about Margaret Louisa Abel (b:1971)and her father Richared Amos Abel.
I think Margaret Louisa married William Erratt but i'm not sure.
I would be very happy if anyone could help, Thank you.
Kiri

Re: Norfolk Abels

shaun248_1 — 2011-04-26 16:41:29Z

sorry to trouble you but im looking for my partner's dad, a philip charles abel 1948, lived and married in the watton area of norfolk/suffolk, i would be truly grateful if you had thing
regards Shaun

Abel's of Bayonne, NJ

danphelan1 — 2011-04-13 19:07:41Z

I'm researching Abel's from NY/NJ area. Mine are from Bayonne, NJ. I'm looking for descendants of Joseph Andreas Abel, Sr.(b~1856-????), married to a Caroline and had about 13 children. Joseph was born in Germany around 1856. I'm particularly looking for descendants of his son Joseph Andreas Abel, Jr., (1884-1968)who first married a Julie Sullivan, then a Louise. I'm following Julie Sullivan's line.
Contact Dan Phelan, at djpphelan@gmail.com

Re: Abel family-Elizabeth-N.J.

danphelan1 — 2011-03-25 17:26:54Z

I'm also researching Abel's from NY/NJ area. Mine are from Bayonne, NJ, just across from Elizabeth. I'm looking for descendants of Joseph Andreas Abel, Sr.(b~1856-????), married to a Caroline and had about 13 children. Joseph was born in Germany around 1856. I'm particularly looking for descendants of his son Joseph Andreas Abel, Jr., (1884-1968)who first married a Julie Sullivan, then a Louise. I'm following Julie Sullivan's line.
Contact Dan Phelan, at djpphelan@gmail.com

Re: Henry Sterner or Steiner and Elizabeth Abel

shepard999 — 2011-03-21 02:05:51Z

Denice,

Source:
1895 Annual Reports of the Inspectors of Coal Mines of Pennsylvania Library Call No. TN805.04 A29, page 184

In the State of Pennsylvania, the reports locations are listed on the web sites:
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/historica... but change the year of the report (1873 in the web site noted here) in place of the question marks.

All of the anthracite Pennsylvania Department of Mines Inspector reports are posted on the web site (lower right side of web site):
http://www.oldforgecoalmine.com/Anthracite%20Archives.html “Anthracite Archives - Old Forge Coal” However some of the later years, only have a partial posting.

YES, I agree this does appear to be a different man. I do not recall ever seeing any mine accidents for Monroe county. Since he had a family, maybe the Monroe county clerk would have a probate record.

from Jerry

Re: Henry Sterner or Steiner and Elizabeth Abel

DASSterner — 2011-03-21 01:44:00Z

Hi Jerry,
In which Library did were you able to locate the report? It, at least documents his death, but it is quite inaccurate. The Obituary indicated that he was tapping a charge into a rock face and a spark ignited the dynamite. He was thrown quite a distance, and was critically injured. His one hand had been severed. I believe he died upon arrival at a hospital. He died December 2, 1891. The Mine or actually a quarry was located in the Northampton/Monroe County area. Looking closer at the details, it appears that they are two different individuals, because Henry Steiner of Easton, Pa., was 39 and had 3 children by this time, plus the baby on the way. Thanks for your efforts though, I appreciate it.
Denice

Re: Henry Sterner or Steiner and Elizabeth Abel

shepard999 — 2011-03-20 22:38:55Z

Dee,
Source:
1895 Annual Reports of the Inspectors of Coal Mines of Pennsylvania Library Call No. TN805.04 A29, page 184

1895Aug17, Henry Steiner, occupation miner, age 29, survived by widow and one orphan, location Derringer, Luzerne county, instantly killed by a piece of top rock while loading a car; a short time previous to the accident he tried to bar down the piece that fell.

This is all the information that I have on this accident.

from Jerry

Re: Henry Sterner or Steiner and Elizabeth Abel

DASSterner — 2011-03-20 21:37:14Z

Hi Jerry,
I had been able to establish that Henry's surname was Steiner. By 1910, though, his son, Guy Steiner, decided to go by the name of Guy Sterner. It seems that due to multiple tragedies, that they decided to put it all behind them and both sides of the family then used Sterner from then on. It is also possible that Henry’s ancestors were originally Sterner’s themselves and the family decided to return to the use of Sterner, but the death of Henry and Elizabeth also losing a baby, plus her daughter, Virginia’s death between 1900 and 1910 from an oil lamp fire may have played a part in the decision.. I don’t think we will know until I can find definite proof of Henry’s parents, etc. Henry’s obituary was found in 2007, I believe, which gave his surname and the details of his unfortunate death. He was buried in the Hayes Cemetery in Easton. As of yet I have not found anything on Virginia’s death. I’d love to know of more information, about Henry or the family, if you have it. I don’t get back home to the Allentown area all that often and there is always so much research to accomplish when I do. Thanks for replying.
Dee

Re: Henry Sterner or Steiner and Elizabeth Abel

shepard999 — 2011-03-20 19:51:42Z

1895AUG17DIED STEINER, HENRY age 29 DERRINGER SOUTH F 184 57

I do have a little more information on this mine accident if interested.

from Jerry

Re: lost sibilings

superrrjen — 2011-02-25 18:43:49Z

I am not sure who Sheila and Jerry are , i know my grandpa (Harlan Abel) had a brother named Cecil Abel. My grandfather passed away about 6 years ago. My name is Jennifer Abel and I am in Oklahoma. I am not sure if it's the same Cecil Abel that ran in my family.

Re: ABEL--Please read this message

jennifergerson — 2011-02-14 20:24:41Z

I've got William A Abel (middle initial may not be accurate) born 1843 in Denmark. Immigrated 1863 and married Mary (Curtain?). Children: Harry Alexander Abel, b. 1885 Wisconsin; Frank C Abel b. either 1882 or 1888 in Minnesota, d. Washington 1931; William G. Abel b. 1882 Minnesota; George N. Abel b. 1890 Wisconisn, m. Evelyn, d. 1938 in Washington. My family goes through Harry. DOn't know anything about William but would LOVE to. Please contact jgerson@weta.org or post here!

Re: Abel

CherylAbel2011 — 2011-01-25 23:31:06Z

Elwood Sidney Abel Sr. married Josephine Louise Quigley on 1/20/1909 in Lowell Mass. They had 4 children. Elwood (Bud} Jr. born 11/17/1909,and died 12/16/1998, Raymond born1912, Ruth born 1913 and still alive, and Harold born1915.

Re: frederick abel 1942

ritachilson461 — 2010-12-29 04:09:00Z

Hello
I have and Frederick Abel he was my ggrandfather and my grandmother was Albertina they were borth born in germany.
he went by the name fred and she went by the name tina.
He was born in april 1851 and she was born in april 1845.
thank you Rita Abel Chilson

Re: frederick abel 1942

ritachilson461 — 2010-12-29 04:07:43Z

frederick abel 1942

grendav2001 — 2010-12-21 11:47:18Z

the following is for abel researchers:

northern daily mail
west hartlepool
28 september 1942

abel - powell
on sept. 19, at st paul's r.c. church, st budeax, plymouth, w.o. fred abel, t.g.m., r.n., of west hartlepool, to p.o. ellen mary powell, w.r.n.s., of plymouth.

Miss Margaret Abel "Aunt May" born abt Sep 1 1838 age 90 Nov 2 1928 Partial obit

jw112646 — 2010-12-01 04:15:46Z

No relation.

attached is a partial of the obit

Re: Norfolk Abels

marieb59 — 2010-11-21 18:00:05Z

Hi

Yes they are the ones I found though not 100% they are the right ones, i found them on the census with one son Leonard, i know there was a Leonard and he lived in North Walsham in later years. Also am sure a brother died in ww2. I could only find grandad (Cecil) at Erpingham and a Percy. Other Abels I looked at had different mother maiden names. I remember grandad saying his father worked at Dunston Hall, Norwich for a while but not sure when that was or whether any children were born there. Guess more info would come to light if i saw birth certificates.

So you are an Ebbage?

Marie

Re: Norfolk Abels

JEbbage7014 — 2010-11-20 19:42:56Z

Hi Marie,

I have found a Frederick James Abel marrying Frances Ethel Ebbage in Walsingham district in December quarter 1899. No births there but nearby lots of Abel births in Erpingham including Cecil (grandad?) in 1917.

Hope this helps and I will let you know if anything else turns up.

Re: Norfolk Abels

marieb59 — 2010-11-19 19:37:23Z

Hi Joe

Am at the beginning of my search and an amateur!! Unfortunately my mum does not know her grandparents names or all of my grandads siblings or any dates. Grandad was born in Erpingham in 1917. He had sisters Hilda and Lena (cannot find record of them) and a brother Leonard and others am sure. I know we took grandad to look at graves in Cromer many years ago but I can't remember if his mother was one of them.

I just found Ebbage who married a Frederick Abel and wondered if they are the ones. The 1901 census has them in Mitford with one child Leonard.

Not much information at all is it!

Many thanks

Marie

Re: Norfolk Abels

JEbbage7014 — 2010-11-19 13:16:53Z

Hi Marieb59,
If you have any more details for the Ebbage mother (first name, area of Norfolk or rough dates) I can probably locate her for you and then perhaps your missing Abels.
Regards
Joe
Debbage/Ebbage GOONS 5504

Norfolk Abels

marieb59 — 2010-11-18 18:47:05Z

Looking for 2 sets of Abel, first is my maternal grandfathers family, his mother was Ebbage, no idea of his father's name and having trouble finding siblings though I know there were a few.

Also my paternal grandmother was an Abel,married surname Humphrey.

Any help appreciated.

Re: lost sibilings

chadabel131 — 2010-10-24 13:10:07Z

You are my dad's cousin! That your dad carried your half-siblings' pictures in his wallet always reminds me so much of my grandfather (your dad's brother). My grandfather, Sidney Wiley Abel Jr. didn't speak of his family much, even to my father (his own son), though he did reveal a bit before he passed away. I'd always heard him refer to a brother named James. His sister, Annie Abel Shannon, he spoke of: she is still alive and is absolutely the sweetest lady (also reminds me of my grandfather!). Their father was Sidney Wiley Abel, Sr. (unsure of the Cecil reference). However, my grandfather (SW, Jr.) was always called "Pat" by my grandma and friends...we were always told that it was a nickname he acquired in the Army, but know now that he went by that name to differentiate his name from his father's. Ethel Little Abel was SW Abel Sr.'s wife.
The family has been a Macon, Bibb Co., Georgia established family since 1838 & I hear relatives are still in the area, but I don't know specifically who. My father (also born in Macon, GA) was an officer in the Marines & we've been in Texas most my life & know practically no extended family.
It is possible that Annie Abel Shannon could help locate your half-siblings. If you believe she may be able to help, I will definitely get you her contact information!
Hope to hear from you