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Re: Mystery Man, Mystery Birth - Harry ALLSOP b England abt 1898

emmapeatfield — 2012-04-06 14:47:14Z

I have a Harry Allsopp on my family tree, born in 1880, married to a Adelaide Corden?allsopp, killed in action in the 1st world war. Is this any help to you.

Re: Adeline Elizabeth Allsop > New York, USA 1944

Stuart_Allsop — 2012-03-14 14:13:05Z

Hello,

Thank you for that. No, I meant 1944 and I've changed it. Out of interest I found all my family tree from Ancestry. All from one page I had in a bible which belonged to my great gandfather. My "story" was published by the National Trust.

Regards

Stuart

Adeline Elizabeth Allsop > New York, USA 1944

Stuart_Allsop — 2012-03-14 14:12:16Z

Trying to find details of Adeline Elizabeth Allsop.

Passenger to New York arrived November 2nd 1944. Born in Fairfield Buxton Derbyshire. Father Joseph Allsop mother Alice Mary Allsop (Shaw)

Re: Allsop

Fiona_Bathgate — 2012-03-13 17:25:01Z

do you mean born 1994?

John William ALLSOP m Mary ANDERSON 1868 in Bolton, Lancashire, England

annstevens1 — 2012-02-27 17:29:02Z

These two married in Bolton, Lancashire, UK in december 1868. They had 5 known children, Robert, Charles, Thomas, Alice and Mary. Alice was my Grandmothers mother. If anyone has a connection please let me know, Thanks.

Re: JOHN WILLIAM ALLSOP/MARY ANDERSON

peteandjenallsop — 2012-02-27 13:25:19Z

ann, walter my grandfather was the second son of the above brother to your grandmother. Our family still live in bolton. Walter my gr/father had four children walter b1907 alfred b1912 edith b1909and frank my father 1920 none are now alive. Hpoe to here from you

peter allsop

Re: Mystery Man, Mystery Birth

Fiona_Bathgate — 2011-10-24 20:54:23Z

The GENUKI gazetteer gives the distance between Smethwick (where they were in 1901) and Kins Norton to be 6 miles - so yes it's possible!

Mystery Man, Mystery Birth - Harry ALLSOP b England abt 1898

amymdell — 2011-10-24 20:45:07Z

I have to admit I have hit a serious road block. I have been looking for the birth certificate for Harry Allsop, sometimes known as Henry Harry Allsop, or Harry Alsopp, or Henry Albert Allsop for months now. The GRO have searched birth certificate records from 1894 to 1901, and found nothing. On the 1901 census, he is listed as age 3, along with his sister Nellie, who is also listed as age 3. I understand there is a possibility that his birth wasn't registered, but I guess I'm too stubborn to accept that.

Is there any advice anyone can give, to help me find some record of this man's birth? I am desperate to find some record of it, and in turn find some record of his death. I want to be able to tell my grandmother what happened to her father, that deserted her.

Please help if you can, with any idea, any advice, anything, no matter how small you may think it is. I'll appreciate any effor.

Re: Mystery Man, Mystery Birth

amymdell — 2011-10-24 19:22:25Z

Actually, I think I may have a breakthrough on this. I'm considering the possibility that even though the census' say he was born in Birmingham, I suspect he may have been a twin of Nellie Allsop, born in King's Norton, Worcestershire. I've been able to find two birth records, one for Harry, the other for Nellie, in King's Norton. Both have a GRO reference of 6c 504!

I'm hoping this will solve the road block.

Re: Mystery Man, Mystery Birth

amymdell — 2011-10-24 18:47:09Z

Thank you! I will do that.

Here it is.....

Re: Mystery Man, Mystery Birth

mi2early — 2011-10-24 17:34:20Z

It would help a great deal if you would provide the details from the 1901 census, especially since it will state where in the world your ALLSOP was born and where the family lived.

Good luck!

Re: Mystery Man, Mystery Birth

amymdell — 2011-10-24 17:11:28Z

Great response! The very first certificate I ordered for Harry Allsop was 6d 124. Sadly, it is the wrong person. Ah well, money wasted. But I did manage to track down someone with the wrong Harry Allsop's tree on Ancestry, and provided him a scan of the certificate.

The mystery continues! Thanks for the suggestion!

Re: Mystery Man, Mystery Birth

BelleRinger — 2011-10-24 16:47:36Z

There is this birth entry which might fit:

1897 Oct-Nov-Dec
ALLSOP Harry, Birmingham, 6d 124

Seems a bit obvious for the GRO to have missed it however, and if Nellie was the same age, i.e. his twin, there is no corresponding entry for her, so it may not be the right one.

Christine

Advice on how to find a deserter, Harry Alsopp or Allsop

amymdell — 2011-06-19 20:24:28Z

My grandmother's father deserted his family while she was a very young girl. She's never known him, or seen him. I know his name, I have the 1911 and 1901 census for him, a marriage banns and a marriage license. I know who his parents are, and his mother's maiden name. Is anyone willing to give advice as to what methods I could use to go about finding out what happened to him? My goal is to find out what happened to him, and to acquire a picture of him so that my 87 year old Nan can see her father.

Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated, no matter how small!

Al

Re: Advice on how to find a deserter

amymdell — 2011-06-19 16:49:57Z

It's hard to say if he was. I suspect he was born around 1897. On his marriage banns, he was listed as 21 in March of 1920. In April of 1911 he was 11, and in March of 1901 he was 3 years old. On two census' he is Harry Alsopp and Harry Allsop. On his marriage banns he is Henry Harry Allsop, while on his son's birth certificate he is Henry Albert Allsop.

Oddly enough, he has many siblings - six brothers and six sisters, but they've all been very difficult to trace.

I have tried to find a record of death, and have seen some possibilities, but without a definite birth date, and the variations of name, it's a bit difficult. Because he deserted his family, it makes it possible he could have moved anywhere else in England, and not stayed in Lambeth.

He's a slippery one.

Re: Advice on how to find a deserter

carobradford — 2011-06-19 08:48:19Z

Hi Al

Would he have been of the right age to have fought in the First World War? Service records from that era can be a useful means of moving forward in time from the 1911 census.

Did he have siblings whose descendents you might be able to trace?

Have you tried the obvious and looked for a record of his death?

Caroline

ALSOP family of Sutton in Craven, Yorkshire, UK pre WW1

davidmcdougall157 — 2011-02-27 14:54:01Z

Trying to trace Maternal Grandmothers relatives , before ! WW1 .. Skipton West Yorkshire & Ingrow West Yorkshire..

Roy Vernon Allsop & Allsops from Derbyshire

LAllsop58 — 2010-11-09 18:53:26Z

Looking for children of Roy Vernon Allsop, born 9/18/22 Pocatello, ID. Parents were Percy Allsop b. 1883 Derbyshire, England and Gladys Sharp b. 1893 Benzonia, MI. Roy was known to have lived in Idaho, Washington, California, Illinois and Florida. Wives (so far) were Lucinda (WA), Vivian (WA), Hellen (WA), Berny (IL or FL) and Helen (FL). Any siblings out there?

Percy Allsop's parents were George b. 1859 Heage and Marianne (Fletcher) b. 1863 Alfreton. George's parents were James b. 1836 Heage and Harriet (Henstock) b. 1838 Belper. Any relatives?

Allsops around Derbyshire, UK, 19C

sylvala — 2010-07-17 19:11:42Z

I am trying to find out more about my ancestors John Allsop born approx 1820 and he
married Hannah or Ann Wright they had a son
William he married a Mary Pidcock and he died in 1886 at the age of approx 39 after being killed by his own boar at The Farm Sydnope Hill. W&M had 3 sons and 2 daughters
that we know of Lillian,Elizabeth'Lizzie',William,Henry and
John Rupert(my g.grandfather) I do have some
info dates and such but want to try and get info on John and Hannah if at all possible.
Henry wifes name Madge poss. Marjory or Margaret was killed in R.T.A in America.

Re: Allsops around Derbyshire

PBLavallee — 2010-07-16 20:04:56Z

I am the son of Dorothy E. Allsup, doughter of Arthur A Allsup, of James, of John of John.
Trying to get a little further back myself. Tough to do.

Robert Peter Allsop

Benedictine7567 — 2009-10-26 09:08:36Z

I am trying to find the burial details of my Great-Grandfather Robert Peter Allsop who died in Romford during the Oct-Dec quarter of 1945, (Free BMD Ref: Romford 4 a 511). I strongly suspect he was buried in the Crow Hill, Romford Cemetery. The last address I have for him is 107 Marlborogh Road, Romford, Essex, (source 1911 Census RG14PN9828 RG78PN520 RD191 SD1 ED4 SN55).
I have been told by a relation that Robert's wife Georgiana Allsop, (nee Burton) died in 1931 and was buried in what he calls a "Family Grave" in Romford Cemetry in grave W44, but I do not have confirmation of this. The burial date for Georgiana is, so I believe, 12th. Feb. 1931.

I believe that there is a cd rom of burials in the Crow Hill Cemetery, if anyone has a copy could they please do a look up for me? Or is there any kind soul who could locate the grave of either Robert or Georgiana—they may well be the same grave.

Many thanks for any help on this one.

Andrew Allsop

William or Joseph Allsop of Sutton Coldfield, Mere Green

PeterAllsop — 2009-07-17 16:02:57Z

Looking for ancestors of William Allsop (Bn 1806, Dd Dec 1893, married Mary Fisher on 11 Aug 1828) and his brother Joseph Allsop (Bn 1797, Dd Jan 1875, married Ursula Watson 0n 9 Nov 1822)

John Walter ALLSOP b 1900 West Bromwich, UK

2009-07-17 15:59:46Z

I recently came across my grandfathers birth certificate. His father was John Walter Allsop. His mother was Minnie Elizabeth Allsop, formerly Richardson. He was born on Nov. 14, 1900 in the county of West Bromwich England. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Even if its a connection to someone near the area he lived.

Henry Allsop (alsop) b England 1805 > MI, USA> Canada > MI, USA

mikeandkathleen3 — 2009-07-17 15:55:26Z

Looking for any information regarding Henry Allsop b. inEngland around 1803, moved to Canada sometime before 1836, and then to Michigan, and back to canada around 1855 to 1860, then again back to Michigan. His wife Mary from Ireland, and had many children including a daughter mary, who married a Charles Foley in Canada. And a daughter Margaret (b. in Michigan 1839) who married Joseph Byrne(ireland 1841)

Margaret (Allsop) Frink 1850 California, USA

2009-07-17 15:50:53Z

There is a newspaper article in the April, 25 2003 Sacramento Bee about a book written by Margaret (Allsop) Frink, called "Overland in California in 1850'- Journal of the Adventures of a Party of California Gold Seekers Under the Guideance of Ledyard Frink During a Journey Across the Plains From Martinsville, Indiana to Sacramento California, March 30, 1850 to September 7, 1850". The travels were by wagon train.
After a brief stop at Sutters Fort in Sacramento, they moved to Sutterville (which is now in the cityof Sacramento where the zoo is). For a short time, the operated a boarding house at 8th and M Street.
Ledyard Frink served on the city council from 1855-1856. They started a dairy in Rio Vista and later settled in Oakland, Ca.
Margaret died in 1893 and Ledyard in 1900- they had no children.

Sarah Elizabeth Allsop Married Thomas D. Tennery of Illinois, USA 1850's

N2framing3 — 2009-07-17 15:49:51Z

Hello,

After looking at the all the messages already posted, I think I have some cousins out there I would love to trade info with. This is what I know. My great-great-great-granmother was Sarah Elizabeth Allsop from Belper, Derbyshire Co., England. Sarah came to Illinois in 1848. When Abraham Lincoln was a young lawyer, he rode all over the state of Illinois, trying cases in different courts. In May 1850, he tried a case between Sarah Allsop and Spurgeon in Shelby Co., Illinois. Lincoln was the lawyer defending Spurgeon.
Sarah sued Spurgeon for slander and won the case. In case you are wondering, Sturgeon had publicly called Sarah and her sister “whores” and adulterers. During the course of the case, Sarah Allsop married Thomas D. Tennery. Lincoln lost the case and Spurgeon was forced to pay $500 to Sarah. I would love to trade pictures and information with anyone else who has information. I have pictures of Thomas D. Tennery with Sarah and pictures of their daughter Flora. I can be reached at N2framing@msn.com. I look forward to hearing from you.

Joel Lively

Joseph Allsop 1776 Maryland

sksmith_nl — 2009-07-17 15:45:59Z

Looking for anyone who may have transcribed his Revolutionary War service record or Pension application statement for service in the Frederick Co., Maryland Flying Camp, Sept./Oct., 1776 under Capt. Valentine Creager.

EMMA ELIZABETH ALLSOP

2009-07-17 15:33:41Z

Emma married Joseph Hayman Coker in England.
They had 2 children, Dorothy & Joseph Victor (my grandfather) Emma died in NZ at age of 48. Looking for Emma's Parents name etc. After Emma died, Joseph Hayman Coker married Lou surname unknown at present. All info appreciated. email me direct: brenda.bullot@xtra.co.nz
cheers

ALLSOP Belper/Duffield, Derbyshire

JanetStone72 — 2009-07-17 15:32:34Z

Searching for parents and birth of George
Allsop/Alsop age about 10 in the 1841 Census for Belper

Married Alice Turner 1849, Duffield

Also his death probably in Bakewell,
Derbyshire

Charles Allsop

2009-07-17 15:32:09Z

I have a Jessie Ruth Allsop marrying a Sidney Horrace Clutterbuck in 1908 in Fulham. Jessie lists her father as Charles Allsop deceased waterside Labourer.

essex, england to australia

Cathy_Allsop — 2009-07-17 15:31:12Z

hi,im doing my tree and this is as far back as i can get so I would love any help
John Lewis Allsop born in 1843 in Essex married Mary Hussey from Limrick, Ireland.
His parents are Samuel Allsop and Jane Harley
thanks

JOHN RUPERT ALLSOP (Derby? England)

SVANDERVET0014 — 2009-07-17 15:30:44Z

Hi; I am trying to trace the family line of John Rupert Allsop. He is my Great-Grandfather. He is the Father of William Allsop (b. Jan 28, 1901 Derbyshire), Norman, Jack, Evelyn, Doreen Harold and Bernard.
I do not know his wifes name. If any of these names sound familiar please contact me.

LOU ALLSOP/MARRIED MARVIN TAFT

SusanRose51 — 2009-07-17 15:30:28Z

I AM LOOKING FOR MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER AND GREAT GRANDFATHER. HER NAME WAS LOU ALLSOP AND SHE MARRIED MY GREAT GRANDFATHER MARVIN TAFT. MY GRANDFATHER MARTIN D. TAFT CAME OUT OF THIS UNION. AS FAR AS ANY OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS, I DO NOT KNOW ANY NAMES. I HOPE TO FIND OUT ANY INFO. THANKS, SUSAN ROSE

ALLSOP

2009-07-17 15:29:27Z

Headstone in the Cemetery of Saint Chads Church, Lichfield, Staffordshire, England.

"In memory of William ALLSOP and Mary his wife. He died January 1st 1747 aged 97, she died August 1st 1725 aged 64"

William and Joseph ALLSOP of Staffordshire, England, 19C

2009-07-17 15:29:02Z

"Odds Sods"

In 1872 William ALLSOP is a Boot Maker @ 11, Market Street, Rugeley, Staffordshire, England.

In 1850 Joseph ALLSOP is a Blacksmith @ Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire.

James Allsop m Mary Boyes, Thirsk, Yorkshire

@@juliemason@redmire1.freeserve.co.uk — 2009-07-17 15:28:04Z

James Allsop son of Edward Allsop was born in approx. 1823 (place unknown). He married Mary Boyes on 18/1/1875 in the registry office in Thirsk, Yorkshire, UK. This was his second marriage, first unknown.

They had six children, as follows:

John Henry Boyes - born 1874
Francis Mary Ann Allsop - born 1876
William Allsop - born 1879
Thomas Allsop - born 1881
Charles Robert Allsop - born 1886
Elizabeth Eleanor Allsop - born 1888

James Allsop died 23/12/1887 in Kirkby Knowle, Yorkshire of Natural Causes.

My line follows Charles Robert Allsop, please contact me if we connect in anyway.

ALLSOP

2009-07-17 15:26:59Z

The following ALLSOP'S appear in my tree:-

William ALLSOP born c1650

His daughter Mary ALLSOP born c1698 married to Henry Clifford 21st November 1719 @ St. Chads, Lichfield, Staffordshire, England.

I'd like to get back further on this William ALLSOP.

Paul Gebhard, Birmingham, England.

gebhardp@fsnet.co.uk

Allsops from Beverley, Yorkshire. George, James ....

goodwillsl — 2009-06-07 10:04:53Z

Any help or information on this branch of my family. My mother was Edith Allsop(1930), daughter of James Allsop c1880) and Eva Braithwaite, he was the son of George Allsop (c1850)and Sarah Chamberlain...

Steve Goodwill

Re: George Allsop Soldier 1901 from Sheffield / Barnsley

CCarsonBullis — 2009-03-09 18:00:58Z

OK! Thanks.

Re: George Allsop Soldier 1901 from Sheffield / Barnsley

mikeallsop1 — 2009-03-09 12:31:06Z

Thanks for reply, but, no I should have made it clear I was talking about The UK only.

Re: George Allsop Soldier 1901 from Sheffield / Barnsley

CCarsonBullis — 2009-03-07 17:34:17Z

Hello Mike,
In my genealogy records, there is a George ALLSOP who married Allie (Alice) CAIN. Alice Jones was married to Ellas Cain first, then remarried George Allsop. Around 1900 George and Alice lived next door to her sister, Mary Ann (Jones) JEPPESON
and the obit indicates that Owen JONES (Alice & Mary's father) came to live with them and he died around 1901 or so. They lived in Valpariso, Indiana. I how a possible birthdate for George as 1866 and a possible death of 1958. Does any of this match your records?

Cathie

George Allsop Soldier 1901 from Sheffield / Barnsley

mikeallsop1 — 2009-02-23 11:20:03Z

My Great Grandmother Charlotte Allsop ( nee grey) is listed on the 1901 census as being on a government allowance , husbabd soldier. At this point she has two sons, George aged 5, and Mark still an infant less than 1 year.
Ther are living in Sheffield. Her husband's name was George, and they were married in 1889 or there abouts.
At some point between 1901 and 1905 (or there abouts) My Great Granny split from her husband, and took up with my Great Grandad . scandalously they never married but did produce about 4 children including my grand-dad, and lived happily together as man and wife until they died and were burried together in the family plot. However all of her children carried her married name, the name of Allsop. On
I have always been curious about the man who's name we hold, but who's DNA we do not share.
If anyone has any info about what happend to him after the split I would be very interested.
the 1911 census my great granny and grandfather and all their children plus Mark are listed but the eldest child george who would have been 15 in 1911 is not. If any one has any info on him it would be great also.

Re: Frederick Allsop

gabylaws1 — 2008-06-20 01:04:46Z

Meant to clarify that the Fred Allsop in my original message was in the Navy in 1933 and his son also Fred was born that year.

Re: Frederick Allsop

gabylaws1 — 2008-06-20 01:02:59Z

Sorry was being very dim!

I meant to say ours was born in 1933 .. no idea why I typed what I did.

Re: Frederick Allsop

Beardale — 2008-06-19 05:54:18Z

Yes my Fredrick is also in the navy

Re: Frederick Allsop

gabylaws1 — 2008-06-18 16:41:49Z

Many thanks for your reply but sadly don't think its the same person as ours where all Navy men.

Thanks again.

Gaby

Re: Frederick Allsop

Beardale — 2008-06-18 13:21:01Z

I think I have met Fred. He is my husbands uncle. Was he born in 20 June 1926? If so his navy registration number is VX43317. He was in the 27th Battlery Antiaircraft artillery.

you can contact me at allsop@bigpond.net.au

regards,
Cathy Allsop

Re: ALLSOP

susansylke1 — 2008-03-17 11:58:22Z

Andy
My mum Louise Maskrey is alive. I come to England every summer my cousin lives in Nottinghamshire. I was able to find Bertha's death and Isaacs death just last year and I was able to verify the children. Ivy Maskrey (daughter to Wm Maskrey) and 1st cousin to Isaac remembered him and a little information. She was born in 1902 she died in 1981 but I have information on all of the family for you
Susan
PS I have made contact with some of the grandchildren to Bertha Maskrey and JH Allsop

Re: ALLSOP

susansylke1 — 2008-03-17 11:44:06Z

PLEASE EMAIL ME at susansylke@q.com
We are cousins. My great grandfather Thomas Maskrey was Bertha Maskreys sister I so hope you will write to me

Re: ALLSOP

andyallsop — 2008-03-17 11:29:52Z

Hi

I just found your post - completely by accident as I was looking for something completely different.

Issac Allsop was my Grand Father. Issac and Katherine had three children. John, Maurice and Kathleen. Katherine passed away in 1981 and John, my Father died in 1991 however Maurice and Kathleen are alive and well and living in Derby, UK.