Arden - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Ardens in Blount, Roane, Loudon Counties in TN

Mom2kan — 2012-03-29 17:52:29Z

I would love to exchange photos/information with you about the Ardens. I have very old photos of Clarence Henry Arden, and a family photo of George Washington Arden and children.

My email address is talk2karyng@gmail.com

I am excited to hear from you.

Re: Ardens in Blount, Roane, Loudon Counties in TN

Mom2kan — 2012-03-29 17:49:26Z

I am an Arden...Paul aka Eddie Arden, was my father. I have younger twin brothers. Clarence Henry Arden is my grandfather and George Washington Arden is my great grandfather.

I would really like to talk to you. My dad passed away when I was only 7 years old. I moved to Knoxville in hopes of reconnecting with family members.

Karyn

Re: Arden family

Mom2kan — 2012-03-29 17:45:45Z

George Washington Arden?

Sarah Arden & James L. Walden

Danny_Carnes — 2012-03-29 04:57:42Z

I am trying to find out about Sarah Arden that married James L. Walden in 1877. She was born about Nov. 1838 in Illinois. Would like to find out date of death or parents or anything. Please help if you can. I know that James L. Walden died in 1915 in California(according to the 1900US Fed Cen., but have not been able to locate Sarah there. Any help would be appreciated!
Carol

Re: Ardens in Blount, Roane, Loudon Counties in TN

tcnannyx4 — 2012-03-21 00:48:22Z

I will email you to compare notes. What is your email address so that I can do that.

Re: Ardens in Blount, Roane, Loudon Counties in TN

slc06 — 2012-03-20 21:51:35Z

I began working on my family history as a teenager. My grandmother, who was an Arden descendant, was instrumental in helping me. I loved to listen to her stories and she loved talking about her family. She left me her photographs when she passed away. Among them were a number of Arden photos - her grandparents and one that was even titled "Grandmother Arden" who I suspect may have been Susan Caroline Carter Arden...the photo appears to be from 1920's or thereabouts.

I did look at your Ancestry files and would like to compare notes when time allows. I have a number of records and images that might be of interest to you. Besides the Arden line, I am also working on the related lines of Kennedy & Bright.

Please contact me via my personal email account if you are interested.
Thanks.
Shannon

Re: Ardens in Blount, Roane, Loudon Counties in TN

tcnannyx4 — 2012-03-20 16:43:55Z

I think we may have communicated years ago. I have learned a lot more about the ancestry of the Arden's. I am related through Samuel Arden. My grandfather was Roy Donald Arden, he was born on 5 Sept 1895. I have gotten as far as Joshua Arden, I haven't been able to find out about his wife or his parents. You are welcome to look at what I have found and see if it will help you.
I wish I had developed my interest while someone was alive to ask questions.

Re: Ardens in Blount, Roane, Loudon Counties in TN

slc06 — 2012-03-20 04:47:58Z

Hello. I am not certain if we have ever communicated, but I am related to the Arden family from Loudon Co., TN through George Washington Arden, son of Samuel and Nellie Arden. I would like to touch base with someone else interested in the Arden family of Tennessee.
Thanks,
Shannon

Ardens in Blount, Roane, Loudon Counties in TN

tcnannyx4 — 2011-10-09 18:30:30Z

I sm still looking for information on Joshua Arden. Has anyone ever found any more information on him? I have finally found that he was born in Haywood NC in 1760 and died in Loudon TN in 1850. I sure would like to find out if he had siblings and what his wife's name was.

Re: Ardens in Virginia and Indiana, Albert, Robert, William, and Abraham

bethspobox — 2011-07-23 18:51:44Z

Thank you so much for taking the time to help. Hope your own research is going well!
Beth

Re: Ardens in Virginia and Indiana, Albert, Robert, William, and Abraham

SFarmer9302 — 2011-07-23 18:15:16Z

Don't know if you are still researching the Ardens or checking this message board, but here is what I found. Abraham was first married to Lucretia Holmes on 18 Aug 1840 in Washington Co., VA. She died sometime before 1848 when he married her sister Keziah Holmes Buskill, widow of John Buskill, on 1 Apr 1848 in Smyth co., VA.

Hope this helps,
Sandra

Re: ARDEN's originally from England.

mmpollock2001 — 2011-06-09 16:07:55Z

I was just playing around today and ran into this. I realize your post is 11 years old but I hope you are able to reply. My grandmother was Frances Emily Arden Jackson Clay, and I have had great difficulty researching her. I know she immigrated from Vancouver BC to Washington state. Please tell me what you can. Thanks so much. mmpollock2001@yahoo.com

Re: Arden of New York

rappychat — 2011-03-28 23:22:34Z

I beleive my grandmother Edna Arden is sister to your grandfather George. I am the daughter of her daughter Edna Borne Krupka. You may contact me at rappychat@yahoo.com.
Thank You.

Re: Arden of New York

rappychat — 2011-03-28 23:20:18Z

Hi
I beleive George is the brother of my grandmother Edna Arden. Her daughter Edna is my Mother. You may contact me at rappychat@yahoo.com :)

Re: Arden of New York

dimento1 — 2011-03-28 20:00:16Z

Kathy
I believe my grandfather George Henry Arden(1892-1963)who married Frieda Alma Eppler(1894-1950) and your grandmother Edna Catherine Arden (b. 1896) were siblings. There were two other siblings John Henry Arden(b. 1890) and Lavina Catherine Arden(b.1899)also. I believe the hotel you mentioned was the Hotel Vanderbuilt in Constantia, NY. This is my first post so I don't know how to contact you offline to share more information.

Arden's from Loudon, Roane, or Blount County, TN

tcnannyx4 — 2011-03-21 02:01:42Z

I have been searching for several years now and still cannot find any information on Joshua Arden. I have searched the boards and nothing new has come up. Anyone have any information on the decendents of James A. Arden? He was one of Samuel and Martha Jane Ardens children. His son Roy Donald Arden was my grandfather, his son was Alvin Eugene Arden. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: ARDEN in Birkenhead England

SueBorg — 2011-02-21 16:23:50Z

Hi - hope you're still researching this. I've replied to your other Arden query - but Margaret was Margaret Roose Hughes, born in Amlwch, Anglesey 28 Oct 1865. Her parents were Hugh Hughes (1838-1901) and Sarah Roose (b c1841)

Re: Violet ARDEN, Canada abt 1890-1980

SueBorg — 2011-02-21 16:20:04Z

Hi
I replied a few years ago about Violet Arden and someone else mentioned that a sister had come over by boat with a sister - she mentioned Rose or Rosy - well I've just discovered that the mother of my Violet Arden (b 1894 Birkenhead) returned from Quebec by boat in 1935 (so obviously must have travelled over to Canada at some time. Her name was Margaret Roose Arden (nee Hughes). Roose was her mother's maiden name

Ardens in Virginia and Indiana, Albert, Robert, William, and Abraham

bethspobox — 2010-10-04 14:49:37Z

My grandfather was Albert Russell Arden (1906-1975) who was born in Washington County, Virginia and died in Tippecanoe County, Indiana. He married Elizabeth Irene Dee. Albert's parents were Robert Hickory Arden (1871-1924) and Victoria Nunley (1875-1910) both of whom were born in Washington County, Virginia and died in Indiana. Robert Hickory's parents were William J Arden (born 1843 in Virginia and probably died before 1872) and Lucretia "Unknown" who later married another man named James Burwell Keith.

William J's parents were Abraham Arden (born 1813, but do not know where) and Lucretia/Kesiah Holmes. There is also a marriage record for Abraham marrying a Kesiah Burskell, but it's not clear whether this is attached to the same Abraham Arden. It may be that Abraham married again after the death of his first wife, but again, no records have been found to substantiate that. I need more info!

Can anyone out there shed light on this line of the Ardens? It seems to be a dead end at Abraham, and I'd sure love to find where else my last name could take me!

Thanks very much!

Origin of the Arden Family

WalterBurgner30 — 2010-04-10 13:22:20Z

The oldest “documented” pedigree known in England is that of the Arden family. This well “documented” family can clearly show it descent to the Arden family from Warwickshire before the Conquest. The scholar and noted genealogist, J. H. Round enables the Arden family to rank as the only English pedigree with a certainty of going back before the Conquest.

The origin of the De Arden-Arden family predates the Norman Conquest of William the Conqueror when he came to England in 1066. They were of Anglo-Saxon stock that settled in England from Denmark and France.

TURCHILL DE ARDEN, EARL OF WARWICK was born in 1005, at Leo-Marston, Loxon, Warwick, England. TURCHILL DE ARDEN, EARL OF WARWICK married (2) LEVERUNIA, COUNTESS OF MERCIA, born 1005-1010 and heiress of the Earls of Mercia. He was the last Saxon Earl of Warwick.

He fought with William the Conqueror in 1066 at the Battle of Hastings against Harold, King of England who was killed in the battle. Even though he was of Anglo Saxon stock he adopted the Norman habits of local names. He was left ostensibly left in full possession of all his lands, rights and privileges. He held 52 lordships in Warwick Co., England and possessed forty-nine manors, including Curdworth, Coughton, Rotley, Rodbourn, Compton and Nuneaton as well at Warwick Castle. He died in 1088 at Leo-Marston, Loxon, Warwick, England. Reference: Charlotte C. Stopes “Shakespeare’s Family” page 166, also Table VII, page 441.

Re: Ardens abroad

neilarden77 — 2009-10-14 09:47:58Z

I am the grandson of David Arden (b 19th June 1893 Salford), son of William and Elizabeth Cooper. David's eldest was Norman (b. 1916 Salford). I am Norman's youngest.

Re: Arden of stockport

ta553010 — 2009-04-27 12:13:34Z

Not sure if this thread is still being read. I currently live in Australia and originated from Stockport, England. I am doing research on my family tree and have links to the surnames listed. Can anyone help?

Re: Arden family

tarden193 — 2009-03-04 02:20:09Z

My GGGrandfather George W. Arden, married to Susan Carter, was born in Blount, 1842, and died in Monroe, 1926. Could you possibly provide information on his relationship, if any,to Samuel, or to George's son Charlie James Arden.

Re: Violet ARDEN, Canada abt 1890-1980

SueBorg — 2008-05-03 16:19:07Z

Violet Arden was my grandson's great, great grandmother's sister (does that make sense?). Their parents were Walter James Arden (b26 Aug 1857, West Derby, Liverpool, Lancs) and Margaret Roose Hughes (b28 Oct 1865, Amlwch, Anglesey). They married 15 Apr 1883 in Birkenhead, Cheshire. I know of 7 daughters they had (from the 1901 census) - Florence Evelyn (my grandson's gg grandmother); Sarah J; Edith E; Maggie; Doris L; Lilian; and Violet. I know that Florence continued to live in Birkenhead, where she was born, but I've been unable to find out what happened to Walter and Margaret. I've always assumed that's because he was a ship's steward. But perhaps the rest of the family moved to Canada?

Re: Violet ARDEN, Canada abt 1890-1980

llschultz62 — 2008-05-02 12:22:59Z

I am also researching Ardens that came over from Canada at that same time, do you have any more info?

Re: Info on Don Arden

llschultz62 — 2008-05-02 12:07:16Z

I too am researching a Don Arden and Ron Arden. What can you tell me about him, i am very curious to see if he is the same man.
Thank you in advance,
Laura

George DePuyster Arden died 5/26/1885 at Elizabeth, New Jersey

Bob_MacAvoy — 2008-04-07 18:58:50Z

I am trying to locate the burial place for this Civil War veteran.

Bob

John Arden, miller of Warmingham, Cheshire, England c 1852

ggeggins — 2008-02-29 00:00:44Z

John Arden was the miller at Warmingham when my G G Grandfater began his apprentiship in 1851.
Looking for info on the flour mill or John Arden.

Thks
Graham

Re: ARDEN Family UK to USA (MASSACHUSETTS and RHODE ISLAND) 1890 onwards

BettyMarsden48 — 2007-12-08 19:56:13Z

What time frame are you looking at. My Arden ancestors came in the circa 1850 time frame, lived in Fall River MA/RI. William and Mary were the adults, grown children were Esther (married Booth), William, Elizabeth (married Winter) and James. Had cousins Thomas and John. Some stayed in area, some moved to MN / WI area in late 1850's.

Re: Arden's from Loudon County TN

INACTIVEAcct — 2007-11-12 15:38:25Z

I am an Arden. My father Paul Ed Arden, who they all called Eddy, passed when I was 7 years old. I'm 40 now and am just now getting to know the Arden's.
My grandfather, Henry Clarence Arden, had a brother named Sam Arden. Don't know if there is a relation, but thought I'd write to you anyway.

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

BettyMarsden48 — 2007-10-12 13:00:17Z

Do you get my e-mails through yahoo??? Can you e-mail me through your e-mail and not through this board??? Are you willing to ??? Will resend through ancestry after you respond to this.

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

quietcelt — 2007-10-12 02:42:51Z

Nothing yet from Ancestry. I've not seen an 1850 marriage for Thomas Booth. I've seen one in 1849 for Thomas Booth and Louisa E Young. Well, I can't wait to see your data!

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

BettyMarsden48 — 2007-10-11 22:37:46Z

I have Esther Arden (maiden name) marrying Thomas Booth in 1850, they very young. She is an Arden by birth, he is a Booth. Did you get my trees via ancestry.com.

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

quietcelt — 2007-10-11 17:08:20Z

I am curious about one thing, that perhaps your info will clear up. When Louisa Esther Arden married Thomas Booth, the IGI record say her surname is Young. It was at this point, that I thought she wasn't Mary's daughter, unless she was married under her previous spouses name. Is the IGI record wrong, as they sometimes are?

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

BettyMarsden48 — 2007-10-11 12:59:58Z

I actually have two trees with the Arden Family in Ancestry (I am a paid international member) and will have ancestry send you both. I will use Yahoo. Let me know at once, either via the board here or e-mail at sntommy@comcast.net.
One tree is my Bullock tree, Ardens are on my maternal side. Other is the other group of Ardens who Ray Ainsworth said were not children of William and Mary.
I went by the censuses to find William and Mary, plus the local relatives helped me with information as elderly ones remember the tales of the wagon train west to Minnesota well
by Esther Arden Booth and Thomas Booth.
I had a huge assortment of genealogical data on my branches of my tree and never organized them well. When my husband died and I retired I gave myself ancestry.com as a gift. It is the best thing I ever did. It keeps my mind sharp and thinking and I really care about finding out the most I can.
See what you have as opposed to what I have and you can decide how to best exchange information.

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

quietcelt — 2007-10-10 21:36:46Z

Wow!. I'd love it.

I live in Kansas City. I fit in because I married into the family.

I have information on the Ardens that settled in Red Wing, also, you might like to know that James' children moved to the Dakota territory after James Died. You will not find a grave for John, a decorated Civil War Vet, buried without a stone in the pauper's section. Very sad. He is buried in Oakwood Cemetery in Red Wing. John, a private in Company A, 5th Minnesota Infantry, was captured near the end of the war and was imprisoned in Sumter Prison, Andersonville, GA. That prison had a 40% fatality rate. So the fact that he survived and lived to an old age is testimony to his luck and hardiness.

If you know the Ardens were in MN, then you probably know that John bought a farm in the Red Wing area and know the
descendants of Simeon.
I thought I responded to Ray about a year ago, but don't see it in this tree. I believe he knows about George Arden's family. I believe I have information on George's family around here somewhere.
I tried to post the data I had, but ancestry won't let me format the message. So it would just look ugly. I'm not sure how you and other users manage to format messages. Perhaps you have to be a paid member to do that. I temporarily changed my settings if you want to email me. I'm curious how you know William came over. I've not ever found anything on him. I was hoping the Ships registers would provide that, but there are so many missing for that timeframe. I'm certain they came directly into Fall River in the 1830s-40s.
I look forward to seeing what data you have. If you'd like what I have I can either post it here. send it to you, or put it online for you to download.

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

BettyMarsden48 — 2007-10-10 12:40:49Z

Boy, do I have information to share with you!!!
I am guessing your "marriage" family goes back to John Arden. I thought
originally that my Arden family of Esther (Arden) Booth (who married Thomas
Booth), James Arden, William Arden and Elizabeth (Arden) Winter also had sibs
John, and Thomas Arden. My third cousin, Ray Ainsworth, who has corresponed with
you, recently told me he had ruled that out and my original grouping of four was
correct.
As I said, in the 1850 Census, Esther and Thomas Booth were living with the
other Ardens. In 1960 Esther's mother, Mary A Arden and a host of other people
moved in and they lived in Fall River, RI. I have not found out who the Allen
family is.
I have international ancestry.com and that has been enormously helpful. I can
send you my trees, one for the Booth/Arden crew, a separate one for the other
Ardens, if you wish. It will come from you from ancestry.com and say I invited
you to look.
I have so many branches on down and extending out, too much to tell here.
I do have death information on William and Mary A. (Boslum) Arden, they are
buried in Fall River at North Burial Ground and have a gravestone with dates of
death and ages.
Elizabeth Arden married Richard Winter, I found their marriage data in the
archives. They had children, Elizabeth died young and Richard re-married.
Thomas and Esther Booth are also listed in 1860 in the MN Census, as are John,
Martha and Simeon Arden. How could they be in Fall River and MN at the same
time, one wonders, but they have a double entry.
Thomas died and Esther and the children moved back to Fall River where she
re-married, James Lord. Esther's oldest son, Thomas Booth stayed in MN and
moved to Wisconsin, marrying and raising a family.
Have loads more info, but must cut this short for tonight, am going away for the
week-end tomorrow morning, will be back Tuesday.
Let me know if you want my ancestry.com trees.
Next summer I am going to MN and WI to see the places first hand.
Where, approximately, do you live??? And how do you fit in.
Thomas Booth and Esther Arden are my great-great grandparents on my mother's
side.

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

quietcelt — 2007-10-02 03:51:19Z

My information source for name for Adam, is speculative. My information for Margaret is conflicting. Her name is either Mary or Margaret. The only records I have for her are census records. There is a marriage record for Elizabeth Arden and Richard C Winter, in Fall River 6 Nov 1861, which I've only just ordered. I believe this to be Margaret/Mary's daughter. If this proves true, then the names are Mary and William (or even William Adam), having shelved my research over the past year. All the other information on the Ardens comes from censuses, Civil War Military records (both John and James served), MN and Red Wing death records, and Red Wing area gravestones. James is buried in Belvidere Cemetery, which I haven't visited yet. Additionally, John's death record incorrectly indicates his wife as his mother's name. This week I hope to get more data on the family's arrival in America.
Simeon's data comes from an extract of some record official record (FHL), but the Town Clerk could not find any record of any Ardens, except for a Mary Arden age two death. I believe this is Margaret/Mary's grandaughter. Will know in a few weeks.
Yes, I've often wondered about Thomas and Louisa Esther [Young] Booth, of whom you must be speaking. The Booths are also living with the Ardens in the 1860 Census, in Fall River, RI, not MA - after which they almost all disappear. In 1862 Fall River, RI was merged with Fall River, MA by order of the Supreme court. I'd like to know more about your research. I've always figured they must be related somehow, also Noel F. and Ellen [Murphy] Allen. You can reach me at yahoo.
BTW an Arden married the last Chief Red Wing of the Sioux tribe, no descendants though, that entire clan is extinct.

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

quietcelt — 2007-10-02 03:49:39Z

I can't seem to post a response

Re: Arden's of Red Wing, MN area

BettyMarsden48 — 2007-09-30 03:24:51Z

Looking to follow up with Quietcelt about the information posted on 7 Jan 2006 about their research. Need to know source of knowledge of Adam and Margaret A Arden as parents to John, James and Thomas. These children lived with my relatives in 1850 Census in Tiverton, RI and I believe they are all related, trying to piece it all together.

Re: Arden family

tcnannyx4 — 2007-09-21 19:27:28Z

Joshua Arden is my ggggg-grandfather. I have searched all through Ancestry and haven't found anything more on Joshua Arden. He seems to have come from NC but other than the fact that he died in Monroe TN in 1870 I can't find anything else. Know anyone in NC who might be able to shed some light on the subject?

Willis Mary Arden, Isle of Man

kkkkllll — 2007-08-26 09:53:28Z

Hi, I'm looking for info about Willis Mary Arden or her family. She was resident in Onchan, Isle of Man in 1910.

Re: Ardens in Lancashire

neilarden77 — 2007-08-23 13:41:49Z

John was George's (b. 1827) older brother. John was a witness at Georges wedding. Their father was Thomas b. Worsley 1796.

I am sure the Worsley/Wardley Ardens were all related. What is your interest? If you are an Arden perhaps we could exchange data.

neil.arden@pennantplc.co.uk

Haldorn/Halldron/Ardern Fletcher of Stockport, Cheshire

dahyde — 2007-08-14 11:48:01Z

Does anyone have a connection to this family:

Thomas Haldorn son Peter baptised Stockport High Street Presbyterian 1782

Thomas Haldorn & Mary son John baptised Stockport High Street Presbyterian 1789.

Peter Halldron (presumed to be the Peter above) married Sarah Fletcher (a widow) Stockport St Mary's 1817.

Sarah Fletcher had three children by her first husband (name not known), Charles (1812), John(1814) and Thomas(1817)

Peter and Sarah on the census and death certificates as Ardern.

Re: Arden,s from England

conniejamieson62 — 2007-07-19 15:27:55Z

yes I do have some pictures could you please e-mail your new e-mail address ok

Re: Arden / Ardern Stockport

cairns56 — 2007-06-09 09:34:39Z

Thank you so much for the information. It backs up what I found from the GRO.

Re: Arden / Ardern Stockport

sabrown961 — 2007-06-09 03:28:44Z

Jackie,

George is a distant relative of mine. From the table below, person 1 (Richard) is the brother of my distant ancestor William Haldern of Astbury, Cheshire.

First Generation

1. Richard HALDERN of Stockport was born about 1748 in Astbury, Cheshire, England. He was christened in . He died in Oct 1801 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

Richard was not married (1) to Esther GIBSON .

They had the following children:

2 M i. John HALDERN was christened on 29 Jan 1772 in Astbury, Cheshire, England.

Richard was not married (2) to Mary GIBSON . Mary was born about 1751.

They had the following children:

3 F ii. Esther HALDERN d.y. was christened on 22 Aug 1774 in Astbury, Cheshire, England. She was buried on 3 Aug 1777 in Astbury, Cheshire, England.

Richard married (3) Elizabeth NICKLIN daughter of George NICKLIN and Ann on 22 Nov 1784 in Baswich, Staffordshire, England. Elizabeth was christened on 24 Jun 1759 in Colwich, Staffordshire, England. She was buried in Oct 1826 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

They had the following children:

4 M iii. George HALDERN of Stockport was christened on 3 Jun 1787 in Baswich, Staffordshire, England. He was buried on 28 Nov 1827 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

+ 5 M iv. Richard (Haldern) ARDERN of Newbridge Lane was christened on 6 Jun 1790. He died on 3 Jun 1845.

6 F v. Mary Ann HALDERN d.s.p. was born in . She was christened on 22 Apr 1792 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She was buried on 25 Feb 1827 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

7 M vi. William HALDERN d.y. was christened in 1794 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was buried on 29 Apr 1795 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

Second Generation

5. Richard (Haldern) ARDERN of Newbridge Lane (Richard) was christened on 6 Jun 1790 in Baswich, Staffordshire, England. He died on 3 Jun 1845 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

Richard was a bricklayer and lived in Newbridge Lane, Stockport. Richard lived in Churchgate in 1825.

Richard married Mary ROBERTS on 3 Jul 1814 in Northenden, Cheshire, England. Mary was born about 1790. She was buried on 10 Oct 1858 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

They had the following children:

+ 8 M i. Jesse ARTHERN of Stockport was christened on 1 Nov 1814. He died in 1868.

9 M ii. George Nicklin (Haldern) ARDERN d.s.p. was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was christened on 20 Oct 1816 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was buried on 29 Oct 1837 in Stockport, Cheshire,England.

10 F iii. Elizabeth ARDERN d.s.p. was born about 1818 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She died in 1838 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

+ 11 F iv. Margaret ARDERN was christened on 2 Jul 1820. She was christened on 4 Aug 1850.

12 M v. Richard ARDERN d.y. was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was christened on 21 Aug 1825 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was buried on 22 Apr 1838 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

13 F vi. Nancy ARDERN was christened on 31 Dec 1826 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

+ 14 M vii. John ARDERN of Newbridge Lane was christened on 27 Dec 1829. He died before 1871.

15 F viii. Mary Ann ARDERN d.y. was christened on 26 Jan 1834 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She was buried on 2 Feb 1834 in Stockport, Cheshire,England.

Third Generation

8. Jesse ARTHERN of Stockport (Richard (Haldern) ARDERN, Richard) was born in Bramhall, Cheshire, England. He was christened on 1 Nov 1814 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He died in 1868 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

Jesse was an overlooker of cotton workers and lived in Mary Street, Stockport.

Jesse married (1) Hannah PLATT on 22 Sep 1839 in Mottram in Longendale, Cheshire, England. Hannah was born in New Mills, Derbyshire, England. She was christened on 6 Oct 1816 in Mellor, Derbyshire, England. She was buried on 2 Oct 1849 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

They had the following children:

16 F i. Elizabeth ARTHERN was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She was christened on 20 Jan 1843 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

17 M ii. George ARTHERN of Philadelphia was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was christened on 20 Jan 1843 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

George migrated to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1878.

George married Elizabeth FITZPATRICK in 1866 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England.

Jesse married (2) Charlotte RICHMOND on 15 Jul 1850 in Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England. Charlotte was born about 1822 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She died in 1878 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

They had the following children:

18 F iii. Mary ARDERN was born about 1851 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

19 F iv. Fanny ARDERN was born about 1855 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

20 F v. Margaret ARDERN was born about 1859 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

11. Margaret ARDERN (Richard (Haldern) ARDERN, Richard) was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She was christened on 2 Jul 1820 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She was buried on 4 Aug 1850 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

She had the following children:

21 M i. William ARDERN d.y. was born in Nov 1847 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was buried on 5 Oct 1848 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

22 F ii. Alice Margaret ARDERN d.y. was christened on 4 Aug 1850 in Stockport,Cheshire, England. She was buried on 18 Aug 1850 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

14. John ARDERN of Newbridge Lane (Richard (Haldern) ARDERN, Richard) was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was christened on 27 Dec 1829 in Stockport, Cheshire,England. He died before 1871 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

John was a weaver and lived in George Street, Stockport.

John married Hannah MAIR on 25 Sep 1853 in Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England. Hannah was born about 1829 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

They had the following children:

+ 23 M i. Adam Mair ARDERN of Stockport was born in 1855.

24 F ii. Mary Ann ARDERN was born about 1860 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

25 F iii. Sarah Hannah ARDERN was born about 1865 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

Fourth Generation

23. Adam Mair ARDERN of Stockport (John ARDERN, Richard (Haldern) ARDERN, Richard) was born in 1855 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

Adam was a gas lamp lighter and lived in Stockport.

Adam married Sarah MOLLARD in Mar 1876 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. Sarah was born about 1852 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She died on 1 Feb 1925 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

They had the following children:

+ 26 M i. John ARDERN of Stockport was born about 1877.

27 M ii. George ARDERN was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. He was christened on 30 Apr 1879 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

28 M iii. James Edward ARDERN d.y. was christened on 1 Feb 1880 in Stockport,Cheshire, England.

29 F iv. Eliza Ann ARDERN was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England. She was christened on 1 Dec 1880 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

30 M v. Frederick ARDERN was christened on 3 Sep 1885 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

31 M vi. Arthur ARDERN was christened on 19 Jun 1889 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

32 F vii. Mary ARDERN was born about 1891 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

33 M viii. James Edward ARDERN was christened on 13 Sep 1893 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

Fifth Generation

26. John ARDERN of Stockport (Adam Mair ARDERN, John ARDERN, Richard (Haldern) ARDERN, Richard) was born about 1877 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

John was a cotton weaver and lived in Stockport.

John married Florence . Florence was born about 1879 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

They had the following children:

34 M i. Ernest ARDERN was born about 1900 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

The change in surnames caused me all sorts of problems, I can tell you! I think it all has to do with pronunciations from country to town. Plus, the Ardernes were a big name in Stockport, so it's likely people just thought Haldern (the Cheshire rural pronunciation being 'Orldern') was the same. Plus they were illiterate!

Regards
Steve Brown
Melbourne

Re: Arden's from Loudon County TN

kevoh1 — 2007-04-20 05:44:17Z

Hello Robert,

My name is Kevin, My Grandmother was Verda (Arden) Neel. She was your great Aunt.
James Thomas Arden was Verda's brother. We would love to talk to you about any information you might have and also share what we have. Also their is an Arden Family Reunion the first Sunday in June in Kilgore, Texas, at the "Kilgore Community Center".
This is a very large family reunion. Sadly Ma-maw passed away in 2004, she was the last of the sons and daughters of Thomas Franlin and Addie Caroline Arden.
Please contact me asap.

Re: Ardens in Lancashire

SueBorg — 2006-11-05 15:04:22Z

The recent replies to your message have made me look again at the tree I'm researching. I've already posted a message about John Arden, but I wonder if he's related to your George and Alice Arden. John was born in 1825 in Worsley, Lancs. His father was John Arden and I believe his mother may have been Ann. Do you know any more about the family?
regards
Sue

Re: Re: Ardens in Lancashire

jeanffrench — 2006-11-04 03:26:40Z

I came to your posting because I was looking at Ardens from Sandbach, Cheshire. Your post prompted me to look for Rafael Sabatini, and I found him with his mother in the 1901 census.
I also found a website devoted to him, www.rafaelsabatini.com, which advised that in 1905 Rafael Sabatini "married Ruth Goad Dixon, one of the daughters of the well-to-do Liverpool paper merchant Lancelot Steele Dixon". "At the age of 60 Rafael remarried in 1935. He married his former sister-in-law, Christine Dixon, a woman who had been married to Ruth's brother. {She was a} sculptor of considerable talent".
I suppose it is a cooincidence, but the family I am researching, Philip and Mary Arden of Sandbach, named their second child George Steele Arden in 1825. I wonder what the Steele connection is?
Jean