Arras - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Leonard H Arras

moren7678 — 2011-11-25 03:30:01Z

I do not know if you are still interested in what I have as of now. Leonard Arras is my grandfather's grandfather. He did have two wives. Josephine Greenert and Clara Bertha Fair. If you search for my page Arris Oren Family Tree and email me and will try to work with you. Michele

Links to German Church Records & and a Question

BlueTigerDancing — 2011-10-16 21:51:19Z

I am an Arras decendant; here is my line.
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/12048143/family?cfpid=-345614...

My question has to do with the following two individuals: Did Anna Eva Arris marry John Kropp?

Arras Family in Winterkasten; Anna Eva Arras, b. 1806
http://www.online-ofb.de/namelist.php?nachname=ARRAS&ofb...

Johann Kropp b. 1806
http://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=winterkasten&...

The only Anna Eva I can find that works with the birth date we have is Anna Eva Arras, b. 2 Jan 1806. That is the birth date of John's wife. They have four known children: Adam Cyrus 1830-33, Hesse-Darmstadt (I think his name may be Adam Arras as his middle name is given in only one census...as Adam Eryres Kropp rather than the Adam Cyrus Kropp printed in a 1880 county history.); John Kropp, b. 1834-35 Rheineland, on way to America (Anna Eva Arras was "with child" when they left, but there is no Adam. Could Adam has been the unborn child??? since they left in 1831; Anna Eva Kropp, b. 1837 Ohio; and Henry Kropp, b. 1845, Missouri. By 1860 the family is in Hancock County, Illinois, where they stay until 1895, moving to Kansas.

I cannot find an immigration record for John Kropp 1806 and Adam Cyrus Kropp, b. 1830-33. But they were here by 1845, although census records for John Kropp give 1848 and 1853. There is a John Kroop in 1840 in Canton, Stark County, Ohio.

Dates do not work for Anna Eva Arras to be John Kropp's wife, unless he came with her family...and he may have. I've searched database of immigrants and can't find him.

Does anyone have any information that might provide a clue?

Have fun with the genealogy.net source. I'm still learning how to navigate the site.
Marilyn

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

1_darras — 2011-10-05 17:02:44Z

To whom it may concern:
I am an Arras directly decended from Johan Peter Arras who emigrated to America in 1831 and settled in North West Ohio, near Jenera, OH. I have a large collection of family history given to me by my Uncle Theron Henry Lamont Arras (deceased). Theron spent about 30 years uncovering the Arras family history and has corresponded with Arras family in various parts of America and Germany. There is still an Arras family farm in Germany.
Dave Arras

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

javarad1 — 2011-06-10 20:24:59Z

Hi Jeff,
My grandfather was George Robinson Arras, great Grandfather William Arras, mother Corrine Maxson Arras Brunhoelzl. I converted to the family name after my parents had a nasty divorce. My sister and son have been working on the family tree under Harris/ von Arras link: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/12227394/family
and can probably take you back two more generations so far. The Arras castle, still standing in Alf on the Mosel from which our family originally came dates back to the early 900's. Louis XIV of France wrecked havoc on the castle in the 17th century when the family relocated. Joan

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

jeffofhhk — 2011-06-10 11:40:27Z

Thanks for the info Joan. So I guess this means your grandfather was George Robinson Arra (1894-1958). Then is your father George W Arras or Robert G Arras ? Your, and Nancy's great-grandfather William Arras(1865-1914) was the brother of my great-grandmother Amelia Arras (1860-1915). Among the 10 siblings in this immediate family was also Louisa Arras (1857-1917) who married August Finck (1854-1905). Do you have any info on this family ? I have a number of names and dates and know that they owned a remarkable estate in the Hudson River Valley (Rhinebeck, NY). Also, do you have any info on ancestors of William Arras (1830-1888) ? My Arras line info stops at William. Thanks and Regards, Jeff Christensen

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

javarad1 — 2011-06-10 06:39:15Z

Hi Nancy,
See my other post re our Grandfathers who were in business together and owned the 3 restaurants in NYC.
The incredibly large family cemetery plot in Queens is a good point of reference for many of the older family members starting in the 1870's. It was originally Lutheran Cemetery now All Saints in Middle Village. I have all of the names and dates of those buried in the cemetery. The Trumps are also buried there.
I just found a silver trophy given by our Great grandfather for a yachting race in Fair Haven 1902:
Link:http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/tiffany-co-coin-silver... Joan

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

javarad1 — 2011-06-10 06:38:05Z

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

javarad1 — 2011-06-10 06:19:55Z

Hi Jeff and cousin Nancy,
There were 3 Arras inns in NYC owned by my grandfather George and his brother William. They were on 42nd St across from Grand Central Station-a business man's lunch where "Diamond" Jim Brady dined, at 204th St and Broadway recently showcased in the article Nancy found, and at the end of the subway line in Riverdale at Van Cortlandt park. The latter facility was more of a large weekend retreat/ hofbrau house type of facility where people could drink and dine while enjoying the park.
Joan von Arras

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

rangeanderson — 2011-05-15 01:31:07Z

PS - One of the articles stated an event that Mrs. Arras had and Mrs. Vix won a prize at the event. Fun stuff!

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

rangeanderson — 2011-05-15 01:29:43Z

No, I can't tell who owned the inn. Tonight I came upon this link to past issues of the Red Bank Register newspaper. I entered the name William Arras and quite a few articles came up. It was a lot of fun going through the old newspapers. It seems that William Arras (my great grandfather) ran a few bowling and other sporting events in Fair haven, NJ.
I am going to look for more info on the Arras Inn.
All the best!
Link: http://rbr.mtpl.org/rbr/
Nancy

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

jeffofhhk — 2011-03-12 16:31:35Z

Hi Nancy, yes I can see the Range Family Tree. Thanks for sharing the link about the Arras Inn. Unless I missed it, I can't tell which particular Arras owned the Inn. Do you know ? Regards, Jeff Christensen

Re: Arras Family

darras11 — 2011-03-10 01:52:58Z

My husband was a brother Regino Arras, but I'm not sure what town in California.

Re: Arras Family

megvs1 — 2011-03-06 23:56:57Z

My mother was Ellen Lydia Arras born in San Francisco, CA.

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

rangeanderson — 2011-03-04 17:54:51Z

I don't know how I missed your note Jeff - so sorry. Can you see my tree? I have some information but I lost track of who belonged to who back in the early days.My sister and I need to get ourselves into a storage facility that we have that may have some more information.

In the mean time, we recently read this article about the Arras Inn in the 1900's.http://myinwood.net/the-arras-inn/
I hope you are well.
Nancy

Re: Arras Family

darras11 — 2011-02-28 02:20:27Z

My husband has a brother who lives in California, name Regino Arras-Botello.

Re: Arras Family

megvs1 — 2011-02-08 06:06:43Z

Yes, indeed we are cousins! My Grandfather was Wilhelm "Bill" Arras. He, my Grandmother Margaret and my Aunt Lee all came over from Gadernheim! My Mother, Ellen, was born in San Francisco.

Re: Arras Family

jenlu342 — 2011-02-08 05:39:34Z

My grandfather was George Arras who came from Germany to San Francisco. Any relation?

Re: Arras Family

megvs1 — 2011-01-06 01:19:57Z

Sorry, I put down Welhelm instead of Wilhelm. My lineage goes back to Hans Arras b. about 1550 and his wife Margareta Weimer.

Re: Arras Family

megvs1 — 2011-01-06 01:17:40Z

My Grandparents came from Gadernheim, Germany. Welhelm "Bill" and Margaret Arras. They lived in San Francisco.

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

jeffofhhk — 2010-11-11 01:20:58Z

Amelia Arras (born 1860 in New York City) is my great grandmother. Her brother William Arras (born abt 1866) who married Louise Brenner is your ancestor. Do you have any info on the ancestors of William ? Regards, Jeff Christensen

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

William_Tisch — 2010-03-25 04:27:54Z

Thanks Jeff,
That makes sense. I know that mom said Grandpa William Vix lost a lot of money in the depression. Sorry I wasn't able to answer sooner. My Brother Cort and Sister Robin are Okay.
I am working quite a bit as a machinist. Hope you are well.
Take care Cousin,
Will

ARRAS Willard B. 1908-2007 b. Hancock County, Ohio

Lace_Lynch — 2010-02-16 18:02:48Z

Willard B. Arras died Dec. 12, 2007. He was 99 years old. He was born Sept. 13, 1908, near Jenera, Ohio (Hancock County), to Henry and Johannia (Crates) Arras.

He married Electa Coldren in 1934; she died in 1993. They had been married 59 years and lived their entire married life in Yellow Springs, Ohio.

Mr. Arras retired from the Air Force Logistics Command at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base with 32 years of service. After retirement, he and his wife lived in Florida during the winter months. Willard enjoyed playing golf and was lucky enough to make a hole-in-one.
In Yellow Springs, Ohio he was a member of the United Methodist Church, the Masonic Lodge and IOOF Lodge #279. He was also a member of the Antioch Shrine of Dayton, Scottish RitesValley of Dayton, Xenia Chapter No. 36 Royal Arch Masons, Aldora Chapter #262 Order of the Eastern Star, and Chapter 187 Retired Federal Employees of Springfield, Ohio.

He was preceded in death by his parents; brothers Oliver, Clarence, Homer and Theodore; sisters Carrie Arras Huffman, Elvina Arras Weihrauch and Helen Arras Weiden. He is survived by many nieces and nephews and great-nieces and nephews.

Burial was in Hancock County, Ohio. Contributions in his memory may be made to the United Methodist Church of Yellow Springs, Ohio

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

Smilebig1491 — 2010-01-07 22:51:42Z

I know peter arras is my greaatttt way back uncle. my grandparents have a family tree book that shows the whole line

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

soccerstar81512 — 2010-01-03 18:52:19Z

how so? do you know who your ancestor is?

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

Smilebig1491 — 2010-01-03 02:46:42Z

hi! im also a descendent of the arras family in germany

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

specialcraftmom — 2009-12-24 06:25:17Z

Hello David,
I will have my Mother bring the family history book over to my house for Christmas so I can trace back where we are related. We are connected, but I will have to look very far back for the connection. My family line came to America a few hundred years ago and eventually settled in Illinois near St. Louis Missouri. I know we landed in Pennsylvania from Germany. The ship they were on almost sank. This is what I can remember from the book. We are connected as of several hundred years ago. Thank you for your reply!
Julie (Arras) Crossley

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

soccerstar81512 — 2009-12-23 16:44:49Z

I do not have a John Arras anywhere in my tree, but I am the great-great-great-grandson of William A. Arras, born May 8, 1830 in Hessedarmstadt, Germany. Do you know of any connections between our trees?

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

specialcraftmom — 2009-12-23 06:39:03Z

I am an Arras living in America. I am descended from the Knights of Arras. My maiden name was Julie Arras, my father's name was Norman Arras and my great Grandfather's name was John Arras. I would love to visit the castle some day with my family. I have learned about the Arras Castle from our family history book.

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

jeffofhhk — 2009-11-08 00:03:15Z

William, I think I can clarify some the family lore you heard (but not about any relationship to the Kaiser !). Your mother Ruth's parents I believe were Willaim Arras Vix and Hopewell Bingham (correct ?). William Arras Vix's parents were George Vix Sr. and Amelia Arras. Amelia Arras's parents were William Arras and Phillipine Schaeffer. One of Amelia Arras's siblings was Louisa Arras. Louisa Arras married August Finck. August Finck's parents were Andrew Finck (born 16-Oct-1829 in Bavaria (Germany) and Elisabeth Lauer born 17-Sep-1826 also in Bavaria. Now, Andrew Finck and his wife Elisabeth come to America. Their son August Finck is born 8-Sep-1854 in New York City. Andrew Finck is a brewer, building up the Finck Brewery in NYC which was one of the major breweries. The 1869 New York City Directory included the following entry: "Finck Andrew, brewer, 326 W. 39th, h 320 W. 39th". The brewery thrives, eventually the son August joins his father in the business. The 1890 New York City Directory included the following entry: "Finck A. & Son, brewers, 326 W. 39th". The business does pretty well apparently because Andrew Finck bought the Wyndeclyffe estate (built 1859) near Rhienbeck, NY, which later became known as the Finck Castle. Back then, many of the super rich had estates up the Hudson. August Finck inherited the estate and left it to his heirs (August Finck and Louisa Arras had 5 children). Somewhere along the line August Finck's heirs lost their fortune, perhaps Prohibition ? I don't know. I don't know (perhaps the Depression) but Finck Castle was not maintained by anyone else, fell into disrepair and finally into ruins. The ruins are still standing. So, thats the story about the wealthy family with a brewery and an estate. Regards, Jeff

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

rangeanderson — 2009-11-07 20:02:32Z

My grandpa (William Arras) said the same thing about royalty. I do know, because I visited as a child, that there was a castle in Germany called the Arras Castle. It was sold years ago.
I also heard about the brewery in NY on the Hudson River. I will go through my notes and see if anything is there.
Nancy

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

William_Tisch — 2009-11-07 19:36:59Z

Hello Family,
I am especially interested in what my Mom Ruth (Arras) (Vix) Tisch told me before she passed away. She said we were related somehow to the Kaiser, but I do not know how or which Kaiser. I believe it most liky is through the Vix or Arras lineage and also she told me that they also owned a very large and well off brewery in NYC. It may have been sold or taken over by the Shaeffer brewing company or Pillipine Schaeffer had something to do with it. These are all questions needed to be answered. I appreciate any assistance. Hope your well Jeff.
Take Care,
William (Arras) (Vix) Tisch

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

njcclary — 2009-11-07 17:39:53Z

Thank you Nancy for your nice note. I'm not sure I can get all the info on one letter. May have to continue on another. My e-mail is njcclary@aol.com My grandmother was Melissa Jane Shafer 1876-1937. Her parents were Phillip O. Schafer 1848-1882 and Lydua Harrison 1850-1928. His parents were Johann Conrad Schafer 1799-1875 and Maria Elisabetha Arras 1806-1880. They born in Ober-Kainsbach south of Darmstadt; came to Baltimore 1837. His parents Johann Peter Schafer 1772 or 1777-1832 and Christina Trautman 1777-1839.Maria Arras' parents Johannes Arras and Elizabeth Kriechbaum 1763-1813. Johann Peter's parents were Johann Wilhelm Schafer 1747-1815 of Hollerbach near Darmstadt and Anna Eva Rausch 1740-1794 of Ober-Kainsbach. Parents of Johannes Arras: Georg Arras and Anna Margaretha Weydmann. Parents of E. Kriechbaum: Johann Heinrich Kriechbaum and Anna Maria Weber. Parents of J. W. Schafer were Johann Nicolous Schafer 1726-?? and Maria Elisabetha Reeg 1727-???. Parents of J. N. Schafer: Conrad Schaffer 1699-1749 and Anna Hartmann 1702. The parents of Conrad were Leonhard Schaffer 1680-1735 of Hochts and Margaretha Tilly 1669-1740 of Hochst. Parents of L. were Solomon Schaffer 1659-1738 and Agnes Filbert 1641-1693. Parents of S Schaffer were Johannes Schaffer 1627-1673 and Jeanne Gertraud Guidonne 1642-1676. Parents of Johannes were Philippe B. Schaffer 1599-1676 and Jean Roupert Berger no dates.
Best Wishes. Norman

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

rangeanderson — 2009-11-07 13:57:15Z

Dear Norman,
I would love to see that if you don't mind. Digging into the family history has been wonderful. I have met 2 distant cousins in the process!
Have a great weekend.
Nancy Anderson

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

njcclary — 2009-11-03 16:41:21Z

Yes, it is interesting. There must be a connection. I have the Schaeffer records going back to a Philippe Schaeffer (1599-1676). He was married to Jean Roupert Berger (no dates). She was not the only woman with a French name married to a Schaeffer. There were also Jeanne Gertraud Guidonne, Agnes Filbert, Margaretha Tilly. The name Arras can be French. I have the names of the 2 generations before Maria Arras. I would be happy to give you details if needed. Thank you for your message. Norman Clary

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

njcclary — 2009-11-03 16:29:32Z

Thanks very much for your reply. The coincidences would indicate some connection at an earlier time. Norman Clary

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

jeffofhhk — 2009-11-02 12:51:24Z

Yes, seems interesting that these are the same family names but I can't identify any linkage. The Phillipine Schafer I have in my records I believe was born abt 1833 in Baden. Her husband William Arras born abt 1830 in Darmstadt. So, its possible they were a next generation of Schafers/Arras's from the same region of Germany as the ones you note, but I have no information that could shed any more light on these families, from that period, in that vicinity. Regards, Jeff Christensen

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

rangeanderson — 2009-11-02 12:40:26Z

That is certainly interesting. I am going to go back to my line and look up the Schaeffer line. What a coincidence!
Nancy Anderson

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

njcclary — 2009-11-01 23:15:39Z

This is quite interesting because a male ancestor of mine named Johann Conrad Schaefer (1799-1875)married a female ancestor named Maria Elizabeth Arras (1806-1880). They were born in Ober-Kainsbach, south of Darmstadt, Germany. They came to Baltimore in 1837, then moved to southern Ohio. Their son Phillip O. Schafer, their seventh child(1848-1882)was my father's mother's father.
Norman Clary njcclary@aol.com

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

njcclary — 2009-09-07 03:25:14Z

Dear Mr. Harris, I am totally new to this system. My Grandmother was Melissa Jane Shafer (1876-1937, Father: Phillip O. Shafer (1848-82). His parents: Johann Conrad Schaeffer (1799-1875)and Maria Elizabetha Arras (1806-80). Both from Ober-Kainsbach, Hesse; to Baltimore in 1837. Settled in S. Ohio. Her parents: Johannes Arras (1760-1814) and Elizabeth Kriechbaum, 2nd wife (1763-1813). His parents: Georg Arras and Anna Margaretha Weydmann. Her parernts Johann Heinrich Kriechbaum and Anna Marie Weber. Thanks much, Norman Clary

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

soccerstar81512 — 2009-09-07 02:15:26Z

I'm wondering if we are descended from the same Arras line. What were the names of the ancestors you had for your father's mother's grandmother?

Re: Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

njcclary — 2009-09-06 20:51:38Z

Dear Mr. Harris:
I have seen your message re the Arras Family. My father's mother's grandmother was an Arras, born in Ober-Kainbach in Hesse, not far from Darmstadt. I have names of her ancestors for two generations. I have no indication of any connection with the Burg Arras. I would be most happy to correspond with you.

Arras family- owners of Burg Arras (Castle Arras) in Germany

soccerstar81512 — 2009-08-01 07:00:39Z

I know that in my maternal family, we are descended from the Knights of Arras, who owned Burg Arras in the Rhine-Mosel region of Germany (near the Latin city of Trier). If anyone knows of relation to the family, or history, please let me know. Thanks

http://www.arras.de/html/english.html

Re: William Arras/Phillipine Schaeffer

soccerstar81512 — 2009-07-31 17:06:43Z

William and Philippine Arras are both ancestors on my mom's side- William and Philippine to William Arras and Louis Brenner to George Robinson Arras and Anna Liptack to Corrine Arras and Charles Brunhoelzl to Joan Brunhoelzl (goes by von Arras now) and Matthew Scott Harris to me, David Harris. Let me know where you stand on the tree, I would love to get in touch.

Re: Arras Family

kwilterkaren — 2009-04-18 21:19:37Z

It might. I would need to know dates. My great-greatgrandfather, Peter Arras, came to the US about 1859; he was born in the 1830s. Do you know who the parents of Nicholas Arras were?

Thanks,

Karen

Re: Arras Family

shirleywsn — 2009-04-18 14:36:55Z

Hi, I have the Arras family from Unterkleingumpen Germany. My ancestor was Nicholas who married Elizabetha Tritsch born in Winterkasten, Germany. They married in Chambersberg, PA in 1827 and wound up in Dayton, Ohio. They had four children. My great grandmother was their youngest. Her name was Hanna Maria. Does this align with your family?

Re: Arras Family

suzukidriver81 — 2009-01-31 15:48:54Z

Hello Karen
That is very interesting for me. I have the same ancestors from Klein Gumpen, and look for my still living Poeple in USA.Mean ancestors approx. 1870 over NY Brooklyn entered. Please contact me under my email : suzukidriver81@yahoo.de

Rolf Arras

Re: Henry (Heinrich?)Arras/Maria Darmsfatter?

suzukidriver81 — 2009-01-22 16:28:00Z

To jeffofhhk

please contakt me.Urgent
thank you

rolf Arras

Family who going to NY

suzukidriver81 — 2009-01-22 15:40:24Z

Hello

My Name is Rolf and Im life in Germany .in 1870/1880 shipping 2 Brothers from Hesse Darmstadt to NY / Brooklyn.
The name was Heinrich Arras born 1853,here has Maried Caroline Ginger in Brooklyn. The children of this Nathalie ,Emma,Frances and heinrich.Heinrich was maried judith weyer.the children of this pair was phillip and isabel.
Emma Arras was maried ... Bahrenburg
Frances Arras was maried ....Mc Cormac

the second Brother was the Name Philipp born 1860 in Germany ( Hesse Darmstadt).
Here has maried Luise Ginger . the Childrens was the name Nathalie .she has maried Richard Tepper .

Please answere me .Im search the Poeple and the contakt of the Family
send me an mail on the folling adress:suzukidriver81@yahoo.de

Leonard H Arras

Jrenekeller — 2008-09-13 18:30:45Z

I have been trying to look this person up. His is my grandmother's grandfather. He is on a few census records. But I can not find anything of his parents or of anything about him before he came to America, which was in the 1880's. I have listings that have him married to a Caroline Greenert and then a Clara B. I can find nothing on these two women. I know he came from Germany, single and 18, to Pennsylvania. That is all I can find on him. If anyone else knows some info on him that would be great. Arras has also been spelled Arris and Arres.

Thanks
Jacquelyn

Re: Arras Family

dainterrazas — 2008-06-24 06:03:46Z

same here, ARRAS! my great grandfatehr had that last name , he was terrazas arras and all i know is he was a wealthy land owner and my great grandmother was corral perches, perches seems to be french and arras english/scottish/german as well now from what i see, i do know that the terrazas family from which i descend did have a lot of irish/english in em such as creel