Axford - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: curious

RouX_Renard — 2012-05-19 17:40:01Z

Fascinating stuff, thanks.

Had you said your Axfords were J1c3d (my yDNA group) I would have had a new suspect father, as my mother had a male cousin who was an Axford.

I think we may be looking at several quite discrete Axford families.

Good luck with your research.

Best regards,

RouX

Re: curious

stnaxford — 2012-05-19 05:20:59Z

Contrary to some of the posts on this website, further research indicates that the Axford surname is not only of English (Anglo-Norman) derivation (as with Southern England - e.g. Wiltshire & Cornwall). As a cognate of Axfjord, it can also be Scandinavian and Gaelic. More specifically, there is compelling genetic evidence that my family's Axford surname is Norse Gaels (i.e. Vikings that settled around the Irish Sea, particularly Scotland and Ireland; representing a syncretism of Gaelic and Nordic cultures). Furthermore, the Mediterranean Haplogroup J2-M172 is not inconsistent with this heritage, as it can be accounted for by either Neolithic settlers, maritime traders or ancient Roman legionaries that also blended with the Gaelic/Celtic population, predating the arrival of the Vikings. My Axford family is of genetically verified (DNA Fingerprint Test) Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Scottish and Ulster Scot ancestries, with no detected English ancestry. Furthermore, exact genetic matches (Family Tree DNA) place our family's origins around Scotland's Firth of Forth that empties into the North Sea. We have no exact DNA matches with families from Southern England. It indeed seems there are distinct lineages of the Axford surname, including its cognates such as Axfjord. Some cognates of the Axford surname may also be Scoto-Norman/Flemish, such as the Exford surname.

Re: curious

stnaxford — 2012-04-05 03:09:53Z

I've learned that the Axford surname can also be Swedish - i.e. Axfjord. The name is found in southern Sweden, especially Gothenburg and the surrounding county of Vastra Gotaland. The Haplogroup J2 M172 was introduced to the region largely due to Ashkenazi immigration, centuries ago - many converted to Christianity and blended into Scandinavian culture. There also was some back and forth migration between Scotland and Sweden. Considering that my Axford family has considerable genetically verified Swedish and Danish ancestry, besides Scottish heritage, I wonder if there might be a connection between my family and the Axfjords of Sweden. It would be interesting to have some Axfjord individuals participate in the Family Tree DNA study to see if any are J2 M172. Renard, are you or any of your Axford relatives familiar with these Axfjord families of Sweden? I've seen some posted on Facebook, so perhaps I'll try to contact them.

Re: curious

barbaragreen611 — 2012-03-04 11:31:48Z

My great, great grandfather came from the Devon branch of the Axfords and was a Tide Waiter in London. A Tide Waiter was a customs officer who boarded the cargo ships at the Thames Estuary and sealed the cargo which was then not opened until the ship arrived in the Port of London.
He married a girl in Devon (place called Stoke Dammeral which is now part of the naval dockyard at Plymouth), had about 4 children with her then she disappears off the scene. I have not been able to trace any death certificate and neither have I been able to find a marriage certificate for wife No.2 who was the mother of my great great grandfather.
These early Axfords sound an interesting bunch.
Barbara

Re: looking for axford relatives in victoria, australia

cchapman95 — 2012-02-03 23:43:00Z

Hi I know you posted this a long time ago but my father is Trevor John Axford and his father was Harold Walter John born 28/12/09. His parents were Walter John and Elizabeth Walton. I live in Adelaide with my husband and three children and both of my sons have kept John as there middle name from the Axford side.

Re: curious

stnaxford — 2012-01-23 01:36:54Z

Hi Renard:

You make a very good point about the potential of my family's possible Wiltshire roots being diluted over the generations. Indeed, I've corresponded with an Axford family from Arbroath and Angus, and they claim to be descended from an English soldier from Wiltshire. Naturally, I wonder if they may be J2, but I don't believe they've been tested. Also, I've thought before about the possibility of an extramarital event as an explanation for our J2 - such an event may also have occurred for my family in Ontario, Canada (from where my family emigrated), a region with a lot of Scot and Ulster Scot families - frontier families faced such high mortality rates, adoption/foster arrangements were common. With regard to the Arab connection, I recognize that's a real possibility too, although I think a Sarmatian Roman Legion connection is more likely, based on my family's DNA Fingerprint World Population Matches. The Sarmatians came from between the Black and Caspian Seas (although they also settled the Balkans, Anatolia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe and the Mediterranean), and there are very high concentrations of J2 in many parts of that region. The area around Hadrian's Wall and the Lowlands also had a substantial contingent of Sarmatian Romans, as I understand. However, the Axford surname probably has a Norman connection, and we know that contrary to common assumption, the Normans were not of just Danish Viking descent - there were also a lot of Flemish, Briton and Gallo-Roman (a source of J2) "Normans," as part of King William's alliance. Also, I understand there were Jewish Norman officials who well may have been J or J2.

With regard to my family's apparent Clan association (genetically, anyway), we have matches with lineages(branches/Septs) from the MacFarlane, Thomson, and MacKay/Kay Clans. These clans settled around Roxburghshire (where we have genetic matches), and we know the MacKays originally came from Sutherland, an area with a lot of Clans of Norse ancestry, including Swedish Viking, as I understand. The MacKays more specifically came from the Loch Laxford area, research tells me. I have also found references of a location name of Axfirth associated with the North Sea area (Shetland Islands, Orkney Islands, Northern Scotland) and Iceland. My understanding is that the Norse and Scottish word firth means fjord or ford. I think it is interesting that the pronunciation of Axfirth is more similar to Axford ("Axferd") than is "Ax-Ford," but the "ferd" pronunciation seems to be true for all surnames with the suffix ford.

I realize that my line of thinking about alternative place name sources of my family's Axford surname involves considerable conjecture, but the coincidences are interesting, nevertheless. Also, there are so many places in the British Isles that sound similar to Axford: Axford, Wiltshire; Axford, Hampshire; Ayshford of Cornwall; Ashford, North Devon; Ashford, South Hams; Exford, Somerset; Eckford, Scotland; Loch Laxford, Scotland; Ashford County, Ireland; Wexford County, Ireland; Wexford, England; Paxford, Gloucestershire; Oxford, England; Oxford Island, Ireland; and Ashford, Surrey (once called Exeford). Also, I understand that "Axeford" is a dialectical form of "Exeford" (The Early History of Oxford; Oxford Historical Society, 1885); and Exford derives from Eckford. It seems very possible then that Eckford,in the Border Region, may be a source for our name, as is the surname Aikfurd (from 17th Century Edinburgh; the name has apparently died out) thought to derive from Eckford. With spellings having been so unsystematic and inconsistent at one time, whose to say my family's Axford surname wasn't once spelled some other way? Indeed, even with U.S. historical documents, I've found my family's surname misspelled as Oxford and Acksford. Consider also the number of surnames sounding similar to Axford: Axeford, Aksford, Aikford, Axfird, Auxford, Oaksford, Oxford, Exford, Eckford, Ecksford, Ekford, Eakford, Ekkeford, Ekkford, Ekford, Efford, Efird, Ashford, Ayshford, Asford, Afford, Ascford, Aescford, Heckford, Hawksford, and Hawkford. These are all place surnames corresponding to at least several locations; they are also surnames known to have been easily interchanged; or as surnames having changed in pronunciation due to changes in dialect. So, when Gaelic and Nordic Scots moved into the Scot speaking (which I understand was similar to Old English)Lowlands, is it far fetched that the pronunciations and spellings of their names were perhaps changed, especially as the Borders became more Anglecized? And for the families that had long been there, we know their names evolved in pronunciation and spelling as well.

Thanks for indulging me. I realize that as someone who is actually British, you know much, much more about your nation's history than do I, so I hope I didn't misrepresent anything. Also, so many of us Americans so often rely on website heraldry information when initially identifying ancestry (family history sadly gets lost), as often genealogical information just isn't available. I know these sites identify the Axford surname as being, by conjecture, associated with Axford, Wiltshire. Nevertheless, I have to wonder. There are Axford families all over the British Isles, including Northern England, Scotland and parts of Ireland and Northern Ireland. The Wiltshire Axfords must have been awfully prolific and mobile to populate all these regions, but perhaps that is the case.

I greatly appreciate your well informed insights. If you come across any additional information, I'd appreciate you sharing it. Take care.

Re: curious

RouX_Renard — 2012-01-22 15:15:50Z

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. It depends what you are looking for. I know J2s who like to celebrate their Irish roots! If you want to wear a kilt and discover which clan you are associated with, then you will have enough Scottish DNA to support that.

Before you go too far down the Scottish high road, remember that an English person marrying a Scottish person produces a child with 50% Scottish DNA, if the 2nd generation marries a pure Scot the subsequent child is only 25% English, a third generation gives a child who is only 12.5% English. That is only 3 generations, they may have been in England before than for hundreds of generations, so my thoughts on the name origin still stand.

J2 yDNA probably means there was either an illegitimacy, where a swarthy foreigner (with Arab or Jewish ancestors) seduced a Scottish (or English) maid and the child was given the maid's surname. Or a child was adopted/fostered and took the surname. NB: There were Arabs building Hadrian's wall.

No point me participating in the Axford tests. I'm only on the board because I have Axford cousins. I'm a J1 west country boy from Wiltshire, it's been over two thousand years since I had ancestors living anywhere else, but before that my line was Middle Eastern.

The deeper you go, the more 'ethnicity' becomes a matter of choice. How far do you want to go back?

:-)

regards,

RouX

Re: curious

stnaxford — 2012-01-21 22:59:11Z

Renard:

I should have asked in my previous posting whether any of your cousins in Wiltshire are J2 M172 (if they've been tested, of course). As I believe you indicated in one of your earlier postings, I'm betting they're R1b (the only other haplogroup that I've seen reported for Axford). It's curious that the Oxford families that have submitted Y-DNA results are generally haplogroup I. Anyway, I know J2 is a little more common in SE England compared to much of Britain, so maybe there is a chance that there is a connection. Thanks.

Re: curious

stnaxford — 2012-01-21 21:12:08Z

Thanks for your reply. I'm glad someone is looking at this thread. I'm familiar with the notion that the surname Axford comes from the root words Asce (ash) and Fjord (ford), and is presumably (and probably most commonly) associated with Axford, Wiltshire. Originally, my family thought it probably descended from this lineage which appears to be associated with R1b1 (is that true for you?). Problem is, my family is J2 M172! Furthermore, my family has undergone a lot of genetic testing besides the typical Y-DNA test. For example, this includes the DNA Fingerprint Test (are you familiar with it?). It showed my family has very little English ancestry, but much Scottish (especially Lowland and Ulster Scot),Scandinavian (Danish, Swedish & Norwegian) and Flemish ancestry (and probably some ancient Roman ancestry, based on matches for specific haplotype (as opposed to haplogroup) as well - hence, the J2 M172), all characteristic of Lowland Scotland (but not Wiltshire). Have you looked at the Border Reivers website? My family's genetics very much matches up with that of the Reivers Clans. In addition, the Family Tree DNA studies match (exact) my family with several Lowland Clans, not Wiltshire families. I'm suspecting there are a number of unrelated Axford lineages. For example, some British historical references note Somerset instead of Wiltshire as the place of origin for the Axford surname. There also seems to be many cognates of the name (many no longer in use), such as Aikfurd, first observed in Edinburgh. Maybe you can get your family to participate in the Oxford DNA Study - that holds the best promise of sorting this all out, I think.

Re: curious

stnaxford — 2012-01-21 21:12:06Z

Re: curious

RouX_Renard — 2012-01-18 22:15:54Z

Hi stnaxford,

Well, no, you haven't confirmed your Axford family are lowland Scottish, you have confirmed you had common ancestors there. Scotland may sound romantic, but Axford is an English locational surname, which originates from places called Axford in Wiltshire and Hampshire. Ax comes from Ash (tree) ford (crossing a stream).

I have Axford cousins in Wiltshire, if I can help you in any way I'll be happy to assist.

Best regards,

RouX

Re: curious

stnaxford — 2012-01-17 03:42:56Z

Through genetic testing, we've confirmed that our Axford family is Lowland Scottish. My Great Great Grandfather Samuel Axford (born 1849) immigrated to Nebraska from Ontario, Canada. He may have been born in London, England. I wonder if the family migrated to England and then Canada because of the Scottish Clearances. Our Axford surname may be a cognate of Eckford or Exford, although it also could be a cognate of Laxford (i.e. Loch Laxford). I hope more Axford and some Exford families submit Y-DNA results - specifically to The Oxford DNA Project and Family Tree DNA.

Re: curious

gmylett — 2011-11-26 00:29:00Z

Hi there,

Was very interested in your mention of AXFORD and ALDRIDGE names.

I descend from an Alice AXFORD b abt 1598 Marlborough - father possibly Richard of Erlestoke.

Also an ALDRIDGE line - John Aldridge alias ANNETTS b 1566
Bishops Cannings d 1609 Bourton.

Do you know if these families are connected to those in other parts of Wiltshire, for example, Bratton?

Any help you can give me would be much appreciated.

All the best,
Gail (in Australia)

Re: curious

milford_lass — 2011-04-10 23:13:08Z

I AM A DECENDANT FROM A AXFORD,

Curiously recorded in the spellings of Axeford, Axford, and Oxford, this is an English locational surname which originates from the places called Axford, in the counties of Wiltshire and Hampshire. The derivation is from the Olde English pre 7th century elements "aesce" meaning ash trees, and "forda", a shallow river crossing, with a sound base. The unusual feature of the name is in the spelling as "Oxford", which one would assume implied that the nameholder originated from the city of Oxford. This can be the case, and usually is for people born in Oxfordshire, but confusion arises because the Oxfords of Oxford were originally called "Oxenford", the city of Oxford being recorded as "Oxnaford" in the famous Anglo-Saxon Chronicles of the year 912 a.d. Most people called Oxford, at least those born in Hampshire or Wiltshire come, like the Axfords, from Axford, the "O" instead of "A" suffix being as a result of 16th century dialect, and poor spelling. Early examples of the surname recordings include Agnes Oxford, christened at Romsey, Hampshire, on November 28th 1590, and William Axford, who married Mary Colbourne at Lacock, Wilstshire, on August 2nd 1596. The first surname recording may be that of Robert Axford, who married Maragaret Aldridge, at Bratton, Wiltshire, on January 18th 1584. This was during the reign of Queen Elizabeth 1st, 1558 - 1603.

Re: curious

saxford_1 — 2010-12-27 00:47:45Z

Terry:

I read with interest your posting, as my Axford family is also of Scotish ancestry, although my Great-Great Grandfather Samuel Axford was born in London, in 1849. My family has verified our Scottish and Norman (Swedish, Danish and Norwegian)ancestry through genetic testing (DNA Fingerprint Test). From exploring the web, I've discovered that a number of U.S., Canadian and Australian Axford families claim Scotish ancestry. Like you, I'd like to know the specifics about these Scotish roots - if I discover the answer, I'll post the information. I look forward to any related information that you discover.

Steve Axford

Re: curious

saxford_1 — 2010-12-27 00:45:32Z

Re: Axford yDNA???

saxford_1 — 2010-12-26 23:24:58Z

To Whom It May Concern:

This is in regard to an earlier posting noting J2-M172 deep ancestry for my family's Axford surname. Since that posting, family members and I have done more genealogical and genetic research (i.e. DNA Fingerprint Test), and have discovered definitive, predominantly Scoto-Norman ancestry -particularly Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Ulster Scotch ancestries. To make a long story short, we are thinking that the J2 connection relates to the historical Norman recruitment of Gallo-Roman calvarymen/nobles. From internet postings, I've noticed quite a few Axford families (U.S., Canadian and Australian) claiming both Scotch and Norman ancestry. If this applies to you, I'd like to hear your story. I'm wondering if some of the Wiltshire Axfords settled in Scotland, and perhaps then later migrated to Ulster. Another plausible explanation that I've run across is that there were Scotch descended Axfords that settled in Devon, that then became landlords in Ireland (i.e. eastern Ireland or "the Pale" and Ulster). Thanks!

Steve Axford

Georgina Axford

christabelball — 2010-11-18 11:38:47Z

Does anyone have any knowledge about Georgina born 1931 England? Thank you Chris

Re: Richard Axford

travishemen — 2010-09-19 20:05:25Z

Sorry, I meant 1829.

Re: Richard Axford

travishemen — 2010-09-19 19:53:04Z

I found a Richard Axford from england born 1929. If you are interested let me know and I will send you anything I can.

Re: Axford family in Elgin Ontario

philp98 — 2010-09-15 05:18:33Z

John Axford, born 1847 in Quebec to Samuel married Sarah Carr in Port Stanley in 1876 and died in Manitoba in 1885. They had no children.

john axford

philp98 — 2010-09-15 05:13:41Z

My great grandmother Sarah Carr of Sparta married John Axford in Port Stanley in 1876. He was born in Quebec and was a baker. They moved to Manitoba after 1881 and he died in 1885. They did not have children. I would like to know of anyone who has information about Sarah. Did she have siblings? She had three children with her second husband. Her name is mispelled (Carn) in Ancestry's records.

Re: Axfords of New Jersey

samumford — 2010-07-08 20:40:23Z

Hello, I am one of "the many" who have been who have been trying to trace the origins of the Axford family. I have been doing this along with the wife of a second cousin. She has put in many hours of research over the past five or so years, while living in England, and has yet to find a connection. In the process, we have learned a lot about the brothers Jonathan and Charles...enough to know that the three brothers were all well thought of, enterprizing men.
I would be happy to compare information. You may contact me by email at samumford@atlanticbb.net.
Sue Axford Mumford

Re: Amelia Axford

EldonJamesGardner — 2010-06-17 18:37:42Z

What we know at this point is the following:

Amelia married a Wilhelm Miller (possibly William), probably in Oakland County, Michigan. They had a daughter named Edna, named after Amelia's mother. Edna Miller was born about 1862. Wilhelm died on 29 August 1884. We have no record of any other children.

Amelia remarried at that time to a Claude Stranahan and had a son named William Axford (after her father) Stranahan. The marriage did not last long as Amelia married a third time to a John B. Faris on November 2, 1887. There were no children from this third marriage.

Amelia died on February 11, 1911 in Oakland County, Michigan, USA. She was born in Oakland County on April 28, 1842, so it appears she never left that area at any time during her life. Her parents were William M. Axford and Edna B. Mackey, both of Warren County, New Jersey. They moved to Michigan with a number of members of the Axford family in about 1830. Only their oldest child was born in New Jersey. The rest were born in Oakland County, Michigan. The Axfords were early settlers of Oakland County with a number of family members moving there from New Jersey.

Our branch of the family emigrated from New Jersey to Southern Ontario in about 1810. They were cousins of the group that moved to Michigan.

I hope that helps. It is a brief summary of what we have found. So far we have a tree of about 3800 members from 1700 on for the Axford family (and related families) from New Jersey.

LG

Re: Amelia Axford

twnmommy — 2010-06-17 01:02:00Z

wow...post this so long ago i forgot about it~! Yes I would love any info you can share, thank you so much!!

Re: Amelia Axford

EldonJamesGardner — 2010-06-16 01:55:37Z

I have a bit of information on this family if you are still interested.

Please advise.

LG

Axfords of New Jersey

EldonJamesGardner — 2010-06-16 01:03:59Z

We are (like many others) trying to find out about how John Axford and his siblings arrived in New Jersey in the late 1600s or early 1700s. We know about his marriage to Anna Beakes, and have successfully traced the family since that time. His origins prior to his marriage are obscure, and as yet we have not been able to find anything.

Does anyone have any information about where he came from or how he got to the colonies?

Any help would be appreciated.

LG

Re: Miller AXFORD

EldonJamesGardner — 2010-06-15 22:26:56Z

If you are still interested, I have information on Miller Axford of Tyrone, Kent County, Michigan.

Please advise.

William Axford married Mary Bonham

christabelball — 2010-06-14 13:53:29Z

Does anyone have a William Axford Marrying a Mary Bonham in Kensington in the London borough of Westminster on October 31st 1846. Her father was Henry Bonham. Would be very grateful for any help please. Chris

Re: curious

axfordterry — 2010-05-19 01:21:13Z

Dear Sir:
Iam a decendant of the original lAxords of New Jersey. My brother, Don reseaarched and wrote the Axford family tree.
In our quest there is a reoccuring legend that the Axfords originally came form lScotland....
They arae listed in the Doonsday records as being all in a ceeartain location in England. That could be for one of two reasons. They could hlave been given that traactof land for militaary service to the king. If they had given military service to the king, there is a chance that they came from Scotland because Scotland had the best sought after fighting men.

Re: curious

axfordterry — 2010-05-19 01:13:46Z

Deaar sir/mme.
I am a direct decendent of the Axfords of new Jersey. My lbrother, Donald, wtroe the Axford family history and has travelled extensivelyl over Noorth lAmerica doing reseach. He has visited Oxford Furnace in New Jeeersey to seek knowledge of the Axfords.

Re: curious

SMumford9820 — 2010-05-16 12:40:51Z

Nice to see that another Axford descendant is out there trying to trace "our John" roots. I think it would be impossible for him to be the one connected to the intriguing tale of murder and escape. John was in the colonies along with his two brothers, Charles and Jonathan. He was employed as a "milner" according to the lease agreement he made with Sarah Stevenson for 800 acres outside of Trenton. The word "milner" might have been a mispelling or was possibly a word for shopkeeper. It was not until several years later that he purchased 1600 acres in what became known as Oxford. It is not impossible that John and his brothers were sons of the original immigrant. John's wife, Johanna, was the daughter of Samuel Beakes and Johanna Biles. More info may be obtained on the Beakes by doing a search on "Jack Mount". He has done an excellent job tracing the Beakes and Biles families back. Also "Don Janess" has a good record of the Axford family on his site.

Re: curious

lstorrs — 2010-05-15 06:41:49Z

The duel story is in my family, too. Supposedly John was son of Earl or Duke of Oxford, killed his brother, heir to the title & escaped to the colonies. Until this week, I had John married to Anna Beach but could not find Beach info. Is it because she was Beakes? Was her maiden or middle name Byles? How can I get info on ancestors or John & Johanna? I am descended from William Parke & Abigail Axford.

Re: Axford yDNA???

saxford1 — 2010-05-02 17:15:36Z

I've initiated researching the Axford surname and discovered the distinct Wiltshire and Cornwall-Devon lineages. From limited family oral history, I assumed we may be associated with the Wiltshire clan which I understand has Norman roots based on available U.S. lineage geneological and genographic studies. To make a long story short, I was surprised to discover my Haplogroup to be J2 M172. Although I realize that we may be looking at an extramarital event, further research revealed that Balkan Roman legions occupied the Cornwall region. Thus, I'm wondering about a possible Roman connection and if there are any Cornwall Axfords that have tested J2 M172.

Re: curious

samumford — 2010-01-16 02:01:09Z

Trying to determine what is fact and what is fiction in genealogy is not an easy thing. But I can tell you that the Axford that purchased property in Oxford is not the one connected with a duel (have heard that story somewhere, too.)
He was John Axford. I know he married Johanna Beakes in Bucks County in 1725. He then leased property near Trenton NJ for several years. In 1735 he purchased 1600 acres in an area that then became known as Oxford Furnace. My John had a brother Jonathan in Gloucester County, NJ, and also a brother Charles. I am still trying to connect these brothers with England or with a previous generation of settlers.

Re: curious

barbaragreen611 — 2010-01-15 17:13:23Z

Have not heard about a connection to Scotland but have traced by axfords back to what is now Devonport Plymouth. (My mother was an axford).
Reading a book on Family Names it states that two Axfords are possible sources for the surname, one in wiltshire and the other - less likely near Basingstoke Hampshire. The most likely is the Wiltshire connection where an Adam of Axforde in Wiltshire was mentioned in taxation records of 1332.
Best of luck

Re: Axford yDNA???

samumford — 2009-09-30 18:21:34Z

I would like to get in contact with DAVID MICHAEL AXFORD. Along with another family member, I have been trying for a long time to trace back to England John Axford who settled in Oxford, NJ c. 1735. My fellow researcher's husband, a male descendant of John Axford, has had his DNA tested. David Michael's name appears on the report as a possible member of the same line. We would like to get in touch to compare DNA information.

Re: Axford yDNA???

RouX_Renard — 2009-09-17 11:38:22Z

hi Sue,

My maternal Great Aunt Ethel Marjorie Isobel Irene Phillips married Charles William Axford in Little Cheverell, Wiltshire, in the second quarter of 1927.

I'll send you my home email address.

Best regards,

RouX

Re: Axford yDNA???

samumford — 2009-09-17 01:15:06Z

Hello RouX,
I have been in touch with my friend whose husband has had his DNA tested. If you would like to get in touch with her, please either put your email address on rootsweb or send it to me at samumford@verizon.net. She is not on rootsweb and would prefer to correspond by email. We are both very curious as to your Axford connection.
Sue

Re: Axford yDNA???

RouX_Renard — 2009-09-06 01:35:18Z

Hi Sue,

That's marvellous. I'll be happy to look at his results and do a Haplogroup prediction. DNA is probably the only way we will solve some genealogy mysteries.

If I get a few more responses we might be able to work out actually who came from who and from where.

Best regards,

RouX

Re: Axford yDNA???

samumford — 2009-09-05 19:31:12Z

Your message very intriguing. I, with the wife of a second cousin,(Axford-Male), have been trying for a long time to trace the Axford roots back to England. This cousin has had his DNA tested with no really clarifying results. At this time, this family is in the process of moving and I do not know how to get in touch with them. However, as soon as their new address and email address is established, I know that we will be in touch and I will pass on your request as I am sure they will be very interested.

The earliest we can trace our branch of Axfords is circa 1715 to the NJ-PA area. Later on our branch moved on to Canada.
Sue (Axford) Mumford

Axford yDNA???

RouX_Renard — 2009-09-05 10:35:35Z

Hi

yDNA tests are pretty cheap now. Do any Axford males know their yDNA Haplogroup?

I suspect Axford will be VERY old English, probably R1B1c.

Anyone know their yDNA group?

If you have had a yDNA test, with as little as 12 or 16 markers, I can predict your Haplogroup. Any takers?

regards,

RouX

Re: Lovie Axford, Wyoming, m. Julian Utter?

kellsangel1952 — 2009-07-21 23:23:12Z

adrees is the same so srry about your computer duke

Re: Lovie Axford, Wyoming, m. Julian Utter?

dukeallen — 2009-07-21 01:36:59Z

Happy to be of service. I will soon get my desktop back from the repair shop (has my genealogy files on it). I've got quite a bit of information on the Axford line and will be pleased to assist where I can. As far as Lovie is concerned, what I provided is about all I'll be able to do.

Additional surnames from whom you are descended include: Axford, Raimer, Dunlap, and a couple others that I can't remember right now.

More L8r,

Re: Lovie Axford, Wyoming, m. Julian Utter?

nickutter — 2009-07-20 22:24:07Z

Thank you very much for the information. My grandmother had recalled her name was Arlene, Arlena, (or something similar). I saw "Lovie" on very well compiled Utter family tree--which is where I got it. We know absolutely nothing about this line. Julian remarried and had other children. My grandfather left home early and I don't think ever had much contact with the Axford family after her death. I would be interested in details regarding both her and her parents. I can be reached at "lawyer@nickutterlaw.com" Thanks again for posting.

Re: Lovie Axford, Wyoming, m. Julian Utter?

dukeallen — 2009-07-20 21:27:19Z

Hi Nick, just thought that I'd respond to your search for your g-grandmother Lovie. Lovie was my g-Aunt, her sister being my grandmother. She was born in Nebraska in April, 1885. Now the info gets very very sketchy. She married Julian Utter (date unknown) and I believe was his first wife. It is my understanding (from my Mom in some notes) that Lovie died in a car wreck in the Chugwater, WY area at a very young age. A friend (who is an Utter) thinks that they had one child before she died (your grandfather????). Lovie was the daughter of Alfred and Catherine Axford who lived in the Chugwater/Wheatland area of Wyoming.

If you would like, you can provide me with some information, where this other researcher can connect with you, and I'll pass it on.

Good hunting,
Duke

Lovie Axford, Wyoming, m. Julian Utter?

nickutter — 2009-01-12 20:08:28Z

I am looking for any information on a Lovie Axford, believed to be from Wyoming and believed to have married a certain Julian Utter. She would be my great grandmother if the above is correct. Julian had two wives. No idea what ever became of Lovie (wife number one). Any information is appreciated.

Re: curious

samumford — 2009-01-06 15:34:40Z

Hi, Your story about the duel is most intriguing and a story I never heard before. Another family member and I have been searching for John Axford's (of Oxford Furnace] roots for more than five years without much luck. It is possible that there may be a Scottish connection. We seem to find no connection in Wiltshire, Hampshire, or Devon. What we do know of John is that he married Johanna Beakes from a Quaker family in Bucks Co., PA. He then rented farm acreage near Trenton, NJ. His occupation as listed on the lease papers is "milner". After a few years, he travelled north and settled in the area now known as Oxford. We know definitely that he had a brother Jonathan who married the daughter of Edward Clemenz and had a landing on the Cooper River near Haddonfield. The landing in later years was known as Axford's Landing. We believe he also had a brother Charles. Charles married Johanna's sister Rebecca. They made their home in Trenton. I have not been able to find out anything more about when they arrived in this country and from where. Always open to hints and suggestions. Good luck in your sluething.
Sue Axford Mumford

curious

axfordterry — 2009-01-05 21:53:09Z

My uncle Ross Axford always claimed that his grandfather claimed thsaat the Axfords originally came from lScotland. On my computer I find quite a few Axfords in LScotland.I have a theory. The Axfords are in thle doomsday records. TLhey are all in the same place. Could it be that thley were the remnants of soldiers that the kilng hired from LScotland and they recieved lanld in Devon for thier lyoalty? LTheir is also another stoyr that comes down thlroughl stories. My ancester who first came to U>S>A> in the 1600's left England after killilng an Earl in a duel. He must have had money because he picked up 800 acres of land around present day Oxford Furnace in New Jersey. Check that out.......

Axford family in Elgin Ontario

mattjaime824 — 2008-10-04 07:17:12Z

I'm looking for anyone who is related to or knows more information on Elizabeth Axford born in 1841 in England. Her parents were John and Elizabeth, also born in England. They had a son named John born abt 1844, and possible two more children eliza and samuel job. The elder elizabeth became a widow and married a John Newman in 1853. If anyone has any info...I need to see if all of them are realy related. Thanks.