Bancroft - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: John S. "Jack" Bancroft (1915-2002), of Lake Nacogdoches, TX

cartoon57 — 2012-05-19 20:35:34Z

Hello

I don't think there is a link with my family only slightly tenuously. I regret to say this. Thank you for contacting us.

Carole Blagbrough

Re: John S. "Jack" Bancroft (1915-2002), of Lake Nacogdoches, TX

jsbancroft — 2012-05-18 02:51:36Z

I know this was posted 9 years ago, but here goes anyway. I am the grandson of Jack Bancroft. I have done some very rudimentary research about my family tree. If you have any questions I'd be happy to help wherever possible!

Re: James F Bancroft / Ontario

rlzolman1 — 2012-05-17 03:01:35Z

Hi. I had lost your contact info as well. Please contact me at this e-mail address rlzolman@att.net or phone # 248 585 7152. I hope to here from you! Robert Zolman

George Bancroft Littleton, CO

gunnerg311 — 2012-04-17 13:32:35Z

I am researching the above named man...he was a grocery store owner in Littleton, CO and is listed in the 1940 census as such.

Re: Wm Bancroft (abt 1805 MA) m Grace Spinney, moved to AL

GeorgeKnapp49 — 2012-04-04 15:25:23Z

Warren Eugene Bancroft's parents were Charles Bancroft (born 25 Jun 1830/31) and his second wife Sarah Anderson (born 1829). They were married in 1860 after his first wife Mary Pollard died in June of that year.

Warren Eugene was born in 1863 and died in 1921 according to his grave marker. He is buried alongside his wife Mary Elnora Jane Caughman (died Dec 1943) and one of their children, a twin boy who died at birth, in the Goodwater Baptist Church Cemetery, in Smith County, Mississippi.

Re: Robin Lynn Bancroft (1962-2001) of Ashtabula, OH

Maxineknapp1 — 2012-03-26 21:02:45Z

My Mom was the most amazing woman. I miss her terribly. Although I know she is watching over Shannon and I, and her two beautiful Grandchildren.

Re: Native Americans in Ponkapoag Tribe, MA, 1800's

bbffrrpp — 2012-03-11 13:47:30Z

Hi Patricia,

Have you seen this web site?

http://www.neponsett.org/

Betty (near Lowell, MA)

Re: Native Americans in Ponkapoag Tribe, MA, 1800's

bbffrrpp — 2012-03-11 13:42:51Z

Hello,

Just saw my posting from a few years ago and noticed a mistake. I found out after that that it was a daughter of Robert BANCROFT who married Asa MOOHOO. His wife in Middleton, MA, did not remarry after his passing - that I know of. (From memory, his wife was Elizabeth PICKETT, and she can be traced to the "Mayflower" days.)

I still don't know the origin of Robert BANCROFT. Contrary to mentions in books, he was "English" and not a "Native" as some had thought. But, no one knows where he was born ~1720 and who his parents were.

Robert's daughter, Sarah, married William WILKINS in Middleton, MA. They are another of my mystery couples. They moved to "Maine" during the 1770's, and I have no way of proving that they had a 6th child after they moved to the area around the Kennebec River. So, I cannot connect Samuel WILKINS, born "Maine" in 1770's to them.

My "suspicion" is that Sarah might have died as a result of childbirth in 1770's. And, William might have asked another couple to raise his 7 yr-old daughter and newborn son. (They had lost 4 children.)

Samuel grew up to marry Electra 'Leeta' (unknown) between 1790-1800 - somewhere. Another suspicion is that she might have been a Native American lady. I am descended from 2 of their children - through their grandchildren.

Betty (near Lowell, MA)

Re: Driscolls of Cape Clear

kezdriscoll — 2012-02-18 08:09:55Z

I am trying to track a John Driscoll born 1821 and a marriage to a Margaret....surname unknown. Children born in the 1840's include John, Mary and Helen (or Ellen), but they would have left by 1850 at the latest.

Robert BANCROFT in Middleton, MA, 1740's to 1790's ??

bbffrrpp — 2012-01-15 14:56:30Z

Hello,

I was just browsing my old postings on this Board, and was reminded of some of the information I know. What I was reminded of a few minutes ago was that the Robert I'm interested in was probably in his late 50's during the American Revolution. I believe the couple and the many children were living in Middleton, MA, during the 1770's. And, I was wondering if there is a way to find out if Robert participated in the Rev. War in some way. Perhaps "light service?"

And, some of his sons might have been old enough to fight in the War. The list of his children with Elizabeth (PICKETT) BANCROFT is in one of my old postings.

As per my old postings, Robert lived with the Ponkapoag Tribe in Canton, MA, from about 1730 to 1740. He was reportedly "a white man." When he married, the couple moved to Middleton, MA, where their 10 children were raised.

No one can place Robert, b~1720, with any BANCROFT or BANCRAFT family in MA. So, we don't know whether he was from a New England family, or arrived in the MA Bay Colony as an adult.

Betty (near Lowell, MA)

(on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.; now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards, including a new Board for New-England-Research, and an older Board for CAN-USA-Migration)

Re: Robert BANCROFT born ~1720 - Poncapoag Tribe, Canton, MA

bbffrrpp — 2012-01-15 14:42:50Z

Hello,

I'd like to mention that I'm still interested in finding out more about Robert BANCROFT. I had to be away from genealogy for a year, so I'm getting back to some of my "brick walls."

One question this morning is that I found a web page mentioning the BANCROFT and BANCRAFT men who fought in the Revolutionary War from what was then Stoughton, MA. There were 6 of them. If Robert was born around 1720, he would have been in his 50's during the War. Oh, just remembered he would have been living in Middleton, MA, in the 1770's - where his children were raised.

http://www.canton.org/native/1860.htm

http://www.stoughtonhistory.com/

After 2008 I found better information on the family, so my old postings might not have the best information.

Betty (near Lowell, MA)

(on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.; now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards, including List and Board for CAN-USA-Migration and new Board for New-England-Research) (already a List for New-Eng-Gen)

Steven Bancroft 1920/30's in Miami, Fl

MaryA_Brennan — 2012-01-09 19:04:56Z

I have some pictures taken by my father, who are identified as Steven Bancroft, am not positive. He is on the docks in Bimini beside a huge Marlin fish. I think this is the 20's or 30's as my dad was a Charter boat mate and then Capt. This picture has Capt. Tom Gifford as guide. "Uncle" Tommy was a good friend of my dad's.
does anyone have any pictures of their Steven Bancroft? This gentleman is wearing glasses.

Re: Native Americans in Ponkapoag Tribe, MA, 1800's

neponsett — 2011-12-16 19:52:02Z

Pat,
I know who you are, and you have relatives in NH named HUNT.
Come and visit somtime.

Feather on the Moon

Re: Jabez Bancroft, killed by bandits in 1885

jbancroft11 — 2011-12-14 16:57:18Z

Hello Carole,
This Jabez Bancroft was born in Yorkshire,England in 1854 and was the son of Jabez & Deborah. You can read more about the family by going to the following website:

http://bancroftsfromyorkshire.blogspot.com/2009/08/jabez-ban...

Re: Jabez Bancroft, killed by bandits in 1885

cartoon57 — 2011-12-12 19:01:40Z

Hello

Sorry. This particular Bancrof doesn't coonect with our tree.

Can you give me more info, please.

Carole Blagbrough

Re: Jabez Bancroft, killed by bandits in 1885

jbancroft11 — 2011-12-12 12:33:27Z

Thanks for your help.
Yes...this Jabez was the son of the Jabez [the taxidermist] and Deborah you mentioned.
I will have a look at the earlier version of this site, and also keep digging!

Re: Jabez Bancroft, killed by bandits in 1885

bbffrrpp — 2011-12-12 10:29:13Z

Hello,

Have you searched all the new information at www.familysearch.org ? I see a possible family in the England 1881 census:

Name: Jabez Bancroft
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1834
Birthplace: Bingley, Yorkshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Condition: Married
Profession/Occupation: Timekeeper (Chemical) (Manufct)
Address: West Street
Census Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1342046
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4383 / 10
Page Number: 14
Household Gender Age
Jabez Bancroft M 47
Spouse Deborah Bancroft F 49
Child Percy Bancroft M 21
Child Hannah Maria Bancroft F 19
Child Arthur James Bancroft M 16
Child Herbert Edwin Bancroft M 13
Child Oscar Bancroft M 11

...
I notice this family doesn't mention a son, Jabez; was he an older son who had already moved out?

And the 1891 census for England has a Jabez in Co. Yorkshire. And the 1901 census has a Jabez of about the same age:

Name: Jabz Bancroft
Event: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 45
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Keighley, Yorkshire
Record Type: Household
Registration District: Keighley
Sub-district: Keighley
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Peters
Civil Parish: Keighley
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
..

But you said the Jabez you are looking for was killed in 1885. Have you found any wife or children?

In the US those 1885 to 1895 years are hard to research as the 1890 census is not available to us.

If you go to the old version of the above site (Go to Previous Site), you find your family in the IGI but having a death in 1881.

Jabez BANCROFT Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 25 NOV 1854 Bingley, Yorkshire, England

Christening:
Death: 1880

Parents:
Father: Jabez BANCROFT Family
Mother: Deborah Waddington

The IGI also has those parents dying in 1880's.

Just did a search on-line for the name, and found what might be your Blog with an interesting story about Jabez, the father, but it has a different date of death.

http://bancroftsfromyorkshire.blogspot.com/2009/08/jabez-ban...

Also mentioned here:

http://www.pickfamily.com/69.htm

http://www.pickfamily.com/72.htm

Have you found any information on which state in the US Jabez was killed in in ~1885?

Betty (near Lowell, MA)

(Researching a Robert BANCROFT in Massachusetts who spent many years living with a Native American Tribe in Stoughton, MA, and remaining close to the Tribe for probably the rest of his life. I don't remember the years at 5 am (US), but I've posted about him many times. He married Elizabeth PICKETT and had ~10 children. But no one knows where he came from.)

Jabez Bancroft, killed by bandits in 1885

jbancroft11 — 2011-12-11 21:11:19Z

I'm trying to find information on a Jabez Bancroft, who was born in Yorkshire England in 1854.
He was the son of Jabez and Deborah Bancroft, and emigrated to the USA in the early 1880's.
The trail then goes cold, and all that is know about him is that he was killed by bandits in about 1885.
Does anyone have any further information about him, which would help with my research for the family history blog I run called "Bancrofts from Yorkshire?
Thanks

Re: Bancroft. Lancs./ Cheshire

true32blackuk — 2011-11-16 13:49:05Z

My Mother was Beatrice May Bancroft b1921 in Bucklow Cheshire had a Sister Doris, and brothers Ernie and Joseph...

Re: Anna Ramsey Bancroft, death date error

Ar403 — 2011-08-31 04:39:43Z

There are many errors in the Bancroft Trees (and in Trees general) I hope people pay attention to your correction. Your Anna Ramsey Bancroft is the daughter of George, granddaughter of Charles, right? I descend from Charles' brother William. I took a picture of the grave of Sallie Bancroft Poole this summer (actually stumbled apon it while looking for another branch of my family) and am going to put it on Find-a-grave. Sallie was also a daughter of George.

Anna Ramsey Bancroft, death date error

ggardner041 — 2011-08-25 21:43:42Z

Bancroft, Anna Ramsey Please note that in several Family Trees, shows that this Anna Ramsey Bancroft born 13 Dec 1848, death date as 20 Jan 1902, Memphis, Tennessee, This death date is incorrect. The correct date is 14 Feb 1892 Meridian, Lauderdale Co. Ms. Thank all concerned.
GGrandson Gerald Gardner
ggardner@nctv.com

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

23April23 — 2011-07-24 20:18:10Z

I'm replying to my own post here, as I feel I've misled Bancroft family researchers!

Since joining NEHGS, I've found records indicating a Thomas Bancroft did marry both an Alice Bacon and Elizabeth Metcalf.

The will of this Tho. Bancroft names his surviving wife as Elizabeth.

However, there are also records of a Tho. Bancroft in CT who married first a Margaret Wright, and secondly a Gardner, probably Hannah Gardner dau of ??

I haven't sorted through all of the records, dates & places - but my post stating he did *not* marry Wright or Gardner is misleading as possibly there are two Thomas Bancrofts. I'm in the process now of sorting through hundreds of records of Bancrofts on NEHGS and just wanted to state my post stating Thomas didn't marry Wright or Gardner was based solely on the fact I could only find the records of a Tho Bancroft marrying Alice Bacon & Elizabeth Metcalf. Apparently there was more to the mystery of Tho Bancroft than I realized & I apologize for throwing anyone off the track here!

Whether there was more than one Thomas I haven't been able to sort out as it appeared Tho of Lynn, MA did buy land in CT. So, at this point my question regarding the possibility of more than one Thomas Bancroft in the same era/locale remains unanswered - will post more if I can get the records sorted out.

Anyone else researching Bancrofts at NEHGS or through other genealogical sources, if you can shed light on this mystery, please do!

Re: Fred Bancroft from Ohio - My Family!!

Lemoynemeichner — 2011-07-05 16:52:43Z

Hmmm...he was MY great-uncle, also....which makes us cousins, I assume. Please contact me though e-mail. Would love to share information.

Re: Fred Bancroft from Ohio - My Family!!

Lemoynemeichner — 2011-07-05 16:52:38Z

Hmmm...he was MY great-uncle, also....which makes us cousins, I assume. Please contact me though e-mail. Would love to share information.

Re: Fred Bancroft from Ohio - My Family!!

cooniehound — 2011-07-04 02:27:39Z

Would love more info on Fred! He is my great-uncle....

BANCROFT William W Jr - Vietnam Wall section 6W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-05-13 20:51:43Z

BANCROFT William W Jr - Vietnam Wall section 6W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 220,676 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

BANCROFT Stephen W - Vietnam Wall section 8W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-05-05 12:53:27Z

BANCROFT Stephen W - Vietnam Wall section 8W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 220,676 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: Herberts?

alan230759 — 2011-04-29 07:42:47Z

Hi, just read your message about Edward & Martha Herbert who are my relatives also. Do you know who Edward's parents were? I'll be interested to discover any new information.

Al.

Elmer Tracy Bancroft 1865-1923

nancyberont — 2011-04-28 15:36:46Z

looking for his parents, birth place, and which spouse was mother of Bradley Bancroft 1884-1944. possible spouse names are Ena, Lena, Sera, and Missouri Alice Highburger. children are Bradley, Georgia M b.1899 and John Walter Bancroft 1891-1976

David Bancroft& Family Linconshire England /NewYork/Ohio 1854

garydavis1965 — 2011-04-15 13:57:43Z

Looking for any info/family connections to David Bancroft BR:1831 in Theddlethorpe Lincolnshire England immegrated to USA via the Sailing ship Blackhawk. He left England with his wife Cahrlotte Ladely/Ladlow BR:1835,their infant daughter Mary Elizabeth BR:1853,as well as his older brother William George Bancroft BR:1818-1900,his wife Mary Ann Willerton & their infant son William Br:1854.I know the ship they were on sank,they were all rescude and taken to New York.I track William & family to Ontario,Canada, but have not been able to find any info on David & his family, I fear they may have passed away after being rescude,but have not been able to find any info to substanciate this, would really like to find out what came of this branch of the family.I know they were in Ohio at somepoint as William Jr. passed away shortly after arrival than they had Hannah Elizabeth,Willliam George #2 & David Willows Bancroft while they were in the State of Ohio, according to the Canadian Census of 1861,William & family were in Ontario,Canada by 1858.

Bancroft, Kathryn R. "Kay" d. aged 90 yrs Apr 8 2011

JeanKayMorse38 — 2011-04-11 16:20:31Z

Obit: Corning Leader, Corning, NY; Apr 10, 2011 @ 04:28 PM
Hornell — Kathryn R. “Kay” Bancroft, 90, of county route 119, Canisteo, died Friday, April 8, 2011 at St. James Mercy Hospital.

She was a former nurse with Steuben County Public Health.

Survivors include daughters, Susan Gage, of Canandaigua, Cathy Kearney, Bonnie Gielen and Beth Rauber, all of Canisteo.

Calling hours are 1-3 and 6-8 p.m. Tuesday at the H.P. Smith and Son Inc. Funeral Home, 29 E. Main St., Canisteo.

Services will be at 4 p.m. Wednesday at First Presbyterian Church, Canisteo, the Revs. Norma Bond and Ray Shaw officiating.

Burial will be in Stephens Cemetery, Canisteo.

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

PaulHuntress — 2011-04-05 05:52:36Z

The article does have many descendants after 1700, but there is no Robert Bancroft mentioned.
Thomas Bancroft (1622-1691) was born in London and was one of the early settlers of Dedham, Mass. He married Alice Bacon, who died about a year later, and married, second, Elizabeth Metcalf, with whom he had many children. About 1652 he joined the settlement at Reading, Mass and died in Lynn, Mass. in 1691.
Each of his children lived in the same towns: Dedham, Reading and Lynn.

Re: Rebecca Bancroft Suffield CT circa 1680

cheryl_stoyle — 2011-04-04 21:18:56Z

Your Rebecca's parents were actually Thomas Bancroft (d. 1684) and Hannah (supposed Gardner). The New England Genealogical Society records show clearly that the Thomas Bancroft of Connecticut, died in Enfield on 14 Dec 1684 and married (1) 8 Dec 1653 in Springfield (CT not MA) a Margaret Wright who was the mother of a Lydia, Margaret, Anna, Thomas, Anna & Samuel. Then in 1668 he married (2) Hannah, said to have been a Gardner, mother of Samuel, Ruth, Rebecca, and Nathaniel. From "The Bancrofts in the Connecticut Valley" by George E. McCracken, PhD, Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME THOMAS BANCROFT of Lynn, Massachusetts who was married to Elizabeth Metcalf and Alice Bacon and who died in 1691 in Massachusetts.

Re: Rebecca Bancroft Suffield CT circa 1680

cheryl_stoyle — 2011-04-04 21:11:25Z

New England Genealogical Society records show clearly that the Thomas Bancroft of Connecticut, died in Enfield on 14 Dec 1684 and married (1) 8 Dec 1653 in Springfield (CT not MA) a Margaret Wright who was the mother of a Lydia, Margaret, Anna, Thomas, Anna & Samuel. Then in 1668 he married (2) Hannah, said to have been a Gardner, mother of Samuel, Ruth, Rebecca, and Nathaniel. From "The Bancrofts in the Connecticut Valley" by George E. McCracken, PhD, Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa.

Also living in the area at the time were an Anna/Hannah and a John Bancroft, of which at the time there was no proven familial relationship between them and this Thomas (d. 1684) although it is assumed there probably was.

This information was published in The American Genealogist in 1960 with much substantiation.

I hope that helps all of you!!

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

cheryl_stoyle — 2011-04-04 20:52:27Z

Paul --

I'm a descendant of Samuel Bancroft b. 1736 Reading, Mass., s/o Samuel b.1715 & Lydia Parker b. 1715. If you have interest in continuing the line into Nova Scotia and then back to Massachusetts, let me know or feel free to check out my Bancrofts on my tree.

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

cheryl_stoyle — 2011-04-04 20:46:28Z

I'm a Thomas Bancroft descendant (the Lynn, Massachusetts contingency) and there's a reasonable amount of information on this Thomas in Charles Pope's book "Pioneers of Massachusetts". If you want/need any info on the Lynn branch send me an email.

Re: Cabinet Photo of Anna (Lee) Bancroft, circa 1890 in Eureka, Kansas.

GaleYocum816 — 2011-04-02 02:31:50Z

Anna (Lee) Bancroft is the grandmother of my wife, Regina Yocum. Anna was born August 6, 1888 died December 13,1988, married George Harvey Bancroft, October 13, 1906. This is a long-shot but hope you still have the picture!

Re: Native Americans in Ponkapoag Tribe, MA, 1800's

pwhelan1291 — 2010-12-07 07:12:21Z

Hi, I am patricia a. whelan. I am a lost member of the Massachusett Punkapoags. I am tring to get a hold of another member. my E-MAIL: pwhelan129@verizon.net

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

23April23 — 2010-11-29 10:53:24Z

Just did a search in the indexes and he's not there - but that doesn't mean he's not in the books because I found people who were but not in the index. You can do a search for Bancroft and it will bring up every page that has a Bancroft on it (unless it's at the end of a sentence and hyphenated Ban-croft!!)

Might be worth a try if he was from MA - if you know his parents try looking for them too maybe??

Good luck!

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

23April23 — 2010-11-29 10:44:54Z

It might - there are 4 volumes - over 400 pages each, however there's an index. Try Google books or Online library (google search brings them up easily).

If he lived with the Indians though, I wonder if he'd be mentioned? But you'd think at least his birth was or if he returned back to MA.

Interesting question!

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

bbffrrpp — 2010-11-29 09:41:06Z

Hi Paul,

I'm curious if the book you mention has descendants after 1700. I continue to look for the origin of Robert BANCROFT, b~1720 in MA (?). You can see some details in my several postings on this Board. I really have no idea where he was born; we only know that he lived with the Native Americans in Canton, MA, a great many years.

Betty (near Lowell, MA)

Re: Rebecca Bancroft Suffield CT circa 1680

23April23 — 2010-11-29 00:44:47Z

According to the multiple volumes of "Historic Homes and Institutions and genealogical and personal memoirs of Worcester county Massachusetts, with a history of Worcestor society of Antiquity" prepared under the Editorial Supervision of Ellery Crane Librarian of the Worcester Soc of Antiquity and Editor of its proceedings; New York; Chicago; The Lewis Publishing Co., 1907

(btw these books are online at google books and Online Library - you can search for Bancroft and get multiple entries)

Rebecca Bancroft (and Nathaniel Bancroft) both born in CT were NOT the children of Thomas Bancroft. For one thing, the multiple marriages listed here and at other sites conflict. The volumes Historic Homes... lists only two marriages for Thomas Bancroft who was born ca 1622 in England, son of John & Jane Bancroft of England (original immigrants) 1) Alice Bacon who died in childbirth or soon thereafter in 1648 and his second marriage in 1648 to 2) Elizabeth Metcalf. Elizabeth is listed as Thomas' widow.

No doubt another Tho Bancroft existed in CT where Rebecca (and Nathaniel) Bancroft were born. There is much confusion about this, and the only reason imo that everyone ascribes Bancroft children to Tho Bancroft of MA who died in Lynn and was buried in Wakefield, MA is that he was a prominent citizen & landowner and many records of him exist.

If Rebecca's father was not so prominent or wealthy, chances are not many if any records of him exist.

My family tree has a story that contains excerpts from the volumes of historic families of Worcester, MA including Thomas and his wives and children. I recommend reading it if this is important to you. Rebecca and Nathaniel are not among Tho Bancroft's of MA children. Since he lived and died in MA, and since the marriages with Margaret Wright and Hannah Gardner would conflict with his real marriage to Elizabeth Metcalf, one must assume claims that he was Rebecca's father are incorrect.

The priority for me (since both Rebecca and Nathaniel, possibly siblings, are direct ancestors of mine) is to find county records in CT that accurately record their births and who their real parents are. Since this is the 1600s we're talking about, that's a difficult task.

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

23April23 — 2010-11-28 21:47:06Z

Wow! I'm really looking forward to that PDF, though from the dates and the historical volumes of Worchestor, MA, Alice Bacon was the first marriage; Elizabeth Metcalf the second.

However, reading a historical volume of Windsor, CT gives completely conflicting information citing Tho. Bancroft as settling there instead of MA and cites the marriage with Margaret Wright which would have happened while he was still married to Elizabeth Metcalf!

Also, the Windsor, CT volume lists different children (including my Nathaniel and Rebecca who I strongly feel were the children of a different Tho Bancroft).

In anycase, the Worcestor MA historical volumes clearly state that Thomas Bancroft born ca 1622 in Eng son of John & Jane Bancroft, died leaving widow Elizabeth (Metcalf) Bancroft.

I have found evidence of Bancrofts in Vermont about this same time period and I can't help but feel that related (perhaps) but different lines are getting mixed up.

I do feel fairly certain that the Historical Memoirs of Worcestor Co., MA are accurate as Thomas' land holdings and residence was there, he died in Lynn, MA, buried in Wakefield, MA, so he could not have moved and died in Windsor, CT as that historical volume claims. They must be confusing him with a different Thomas as the research takes place many years after the era being discussed.

Joseph Bancroft b 13 Apr 1781 Salem, MA

momzie64 — 2010-11-28 20:30:11Z

I am looking for information on the above Joseph and his sisters, Lucinda m unknown Oaks and had Lyman Oaks b 1807 Worcester County, MA and Abigail who m unknown Felton. All three moved on to Erie County, New York where, I believe, Joseph m Abigail Warner who died in 1843 and 2nd )Polly Dalrymple and then had 10 children in Oakland County, Michigan. Abigail disappeared from notice and Lucinda moved to Genessee County, Michigan where she died after a 2nd m to Colonel William Ross(where did they marry?). Lucinda and William Ross along with Lyman and others are buried in Avondale Cemetery, Flint, MI. Most of this info came from a biography/history written about a son of Joseph's in Oakland County. No mention of the parents of Joseph, Lucinda and Abigail so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

23April23 — 2010-11-28 19:38:00Z

Thank you, I'll check it out. I also found a wealth of info in online books at Google & Online Library. See my story on Thomas Bancroft as I just wrote it up this morning.

Yes I'd love the PDF - my email is dreamlode@yahoo.com

His only wives according to historical archives of Worcester County, MA were Alice Bacon and Elizabeth Metcalf. He did NOT marry Hannah Gardner or Margaret Wright. And the two direct ancestors I'd attributed as his children (as supporting documents said they were), Nathaniel and Rebecca Bancroft are NOT his children and may not even be siblings. I'd doubted it as Nathaniel was born in CT. Rebecca was born in MA, but may be descended from a different Tho or different parent altogether! Yikes!

I'm trying to figure out how to disconnect Nathaniel and Rebecca as Thomas' children without deleting either Thomas (as he may turn out to be related later on) or Nathaniel and Rebecca? Right now they're still on my tree as his children until I figure out how to do that, but they are NOT his children!

Anyway I've posted quite a long excerpt from the Worcester County historical books (no copyright according to Google) - and I'm anxious to learn more, esp. to find out who the real parents of both Nathaniel and Rebecca are as both married into my maternal line.

Thank you for your help! Linda

Re: Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

PaulHuntress — 2010-11-28 19:26:17Z

A good starting point is the serialized NEHGS article, "Thomas Bancroft of Dedham and Reading, Mass., and Some of his Descendants" by John Kermott Allen, which starts on page 215 of volume 94 [July 1940] of the New England Historic and Genealogical Register. I can send you and anyone who asks a .pdf copy of the first five pages.

In 2001 I did extensive research on the Bancroft family and posted the results on WorldConnect. The entry for Thomas is at:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...
You will see that each fact is supported by source references.

Paul Bancroft Huntress

Multiple Wives Thomas Bancroft ca 1622 Eng - Masschusetts

23April23 — 2010-11-27 09:40:32Z

Thomas Bancroft is a direct ancestor - but research is causing me to suspect there may be more than one Thomas Bancroft who left England and came to Massachusetts.

I'd greatly appreciate help as I'm finding this so hard to sort through.

According to sources Thomas Bancroft may have been born in Derbyshire or London England (I've found records citing both). Some believe he arrived with his father John Bancroft and mother Jane (NLN, though some claim Bonython this seems highly unlikely).

In any case there is record of Thomas Bancroft in Massachusetts about the time period John Bancroft would have come over.

Thomas is said to have married:

Alice Bacon in 1647 who died in 1648

Yet he's also said to have married Hannah Gardner in 1647. Since one of Hannah Gardner's children was born in CT, this seems to provide more evidence for the existence of more than one Thomas Bancroft.

He's said to have married Elizbeth Metcalfe in 1648, some records say Reading others Dedham, MA.

He's then said to have married Margaret Wright in 1653 in Springfield, MA.

All of these marriages can match to some citation either from Family Data Collections, US & International Marriage Records or American Marriages Before 1699.

There is record of one Thomas Bancroft born in Massachusetts in Lynn "Before 1637" according to MA vital records for Lynn, Essex, MA, listed as son of "John". This is also confusing as the Bancroft who immigrated from England was also John with a son named Thomas.

The dates to these marriages conflict, yet all have some kind of back up citation from the sources listed above; and there are many children attributed to the various wives.

Can anyone clear this mystery up? Were there two Thomas Bancrofts in Massachusetts, and if so which married which wives? Were both from England, or was one born in MA or elsewhere in the colonies?

There are at least 1800 family trees that claim Thomas Bancroft b. ca 1622-1625 of England who came to MA and some place him with some of these wives and not the others. I'm wondering how to find the truth in all the confusion.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

(I also believe I saw one spouse listed with the surname of Coggins, but couldn't find any citation used to verify her so am discounting her for the moment without something to back up that claim).

Rebecca/Nathaniel/Thomas Bancroft

23April23 — 2010-10-27 01:01:51Z

I've read questions about Rebecca in an older thread, but wanted to bring her up again as she's an extreme dilemma in my family research.

My questions are, is Hannah Gardner or Margaret Wright the mother of Rebecca?

Did Rebecca have a brother or half-brother named Nathaniel (some sources show Nathaniel as being the husband of Hannah Gardner), fathered by Thomas Bancroft.

Who were Thomas Bancroft's parents? Sources I've read claim to disprove the theory that Thomas was the son of John Bancroft of Derbyshire England as he died before he could leave for the U.S. There is no proof (that I've found) that Jane Bonython is his mother - her dates of birth vary wildly, one places her in Cornwall Eng. which would make her about 69 at the time of Thomas' birth.

Other sources claim a different John Bancroft and Jane ? came from England who gave birth to Thomas.

Still another claims that the deceased John Bancroft's widow Jane, came to the U.S. with her children and the excecutor of John's will. Whether she was Bonython, I don't know as some sources place Jane Bonython's birth circa 1601 in Derbyshire rather than Cornwall, but still list John Bonython & Eleanor Myllayton of Cornwall as her parents!

I also have another confusing issue, as if Rebecca Bancroft and Nathaniel Bancroft are brother & sister, or half-brother & sister, Rebecca's line can be traced to my great-great grandmother Hannah Holcomb.

And Nathaniel Bancroft (Rebecca's brother)'s line can be traced to Hannah Holcomb's husband, my great-great grandfather, Milo Claude Rose!!!

That is too much of a coincidence and I feel I must have gotten off on my research. Any help would be greatly appreciated as to the lineage (ancestors & descendants) of Thomas, Rebecca & Nathaniel Bancroft.

Thank you. Linda

Re: Rebecca Bancroft Suffield CT circa 1680

23April23 — 2010-10-27 00:59:32Z

This is an old thread, but I'm also stuck with research on this family.

My questions are, is Hannah Gardner or Margaret Wright the mother of Rebecca?

Did Rebecca have a brother or half-brother named Nathaniel (some sources show Nathaniel as being the husband of Hannah Gardner).

Who were Thomas Bancroft's parents? Sources I've read claim to disprove the theory that Thomas was the son of John Bancroft of Derbyshire England as he died before he could leave for the U.S. There is no proof (that I've found) that Jane Bonython is his mother - her dates of birth vary wildly, one places her in Cornwall Eng. which would make her about 69 at the time of Thomas' birth.

Other sources claim a different John Bancroft and Jane ? came from England who gave birth to Thomas.

Still another claims that the deceased John Bancroft's widow Jane, came to the U.S. with her children and the excecutor of John's will. Whether she was Bonython, I don't know as some sources place Jane Bonython's birth circa 1601 in Derbyshire rather than Cornwall, but still list John Bonython & Eleanor Myllayton of Cornwall as her parents!

I also have another confusing issue, as if Rebecca Bancroft and Nathaniel Bancroft are brother & sister, or half-brother & sister, Rebecca's line can be traced to my great-great grandmother Hannah Holcomb.

And Nathaniel Bancroft (Rebecca's brother)'s line can be traced to Hannah Holcomb's husband, my great-great grandfather!!!

That is too much of a coincidence and I feel I must have gotten off on my research. Any help would be greatly appreciated as to the lineage (ancestors & descendants) of Thomas, Rebecca & Nathaniel Bancroft.

Thank you. Linda

Re: Bancrofts from New York

tmoran — 2010-10-17 22:16:49Z

I just started the Bancroft line, although I am not related, but I have an abstract for our property that mentions Zelotes Bancroft and wife Alma H. in 1839, St. Joseph Co IN. After reading up on the county history Zelotes brother was William born in 1804, father Isaac who was a farmer in Granville MA. It goes on to say that Isaac was a direct descendant of the pilgrams that settled Plymouth Colony that there were 3 Bancroft brothers that came from England. In 1840 in St. Joseph Co, IN we have William and "A.H" Bancroft. A H is Alma the widow of Zelotes, later marrying Justus Hollister. I don't think there were any children born to Alma by either marriage but am curious what her maiden name was and also to know if you know anything about Isaac? I can see there is quite a bit written on Azuriah and am sure the Bancrofts from Granville are related, just hoping someone can shed some light on the Indiana clan.

http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/BookView.aspx?dbid=19908&a...

Teresa Moran
Indiana