Bate - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: bate family of Dudley

col19_1 — 2012-04-18 09:32:03Z

I knew about him being in the army during the war. All about north Africa and Sicily and Italy. We tried to persuade him to go back to Italy when he retired but all he said was "Its full of mud huts".

Do you know anything else - have you found him on 1911 cencus, and why all the name changes.

I'm not a member anymore so am a bit restricted to what I can find out.

Re: bate family of Dudley

bob696139 — 2012-04-12 10:29:07Z

It would appear that we are the 'long lost cousins" of legend

As regards 'Ben' looking at other threads you appear to have all the information that we have.

The only things I can add is a little more about his army service (and that is a bit sketchy until I get his army records). As best as I can judge he was in the royal army service corps attached to a field ambulance unit. He served in North Africa possibly from as early as 1940 then Sicily and then in Italy until the end of the war. At some point (summer 45?) he was in Venice as he commented once that "Venice stunk"
He was wounded at least once as he still had a bit of shrapnel in the back of his hand when he died.

Re: bate family of Dudley

col19_1 — 2012-04-11 14:57:09Z

hello you must be my cousin

Re: BATE Henry b. 1866 or 1867 Worcestershire, England

annewu37 — 2012-04-05 12:56:29Z

I am posting this again to see if anyone may have a connection with Henry Bate.
Henry Bate married Eva Jane Treadgold in June 1889 in Bromsgrove district England.
Henry's parents were Joseph Bate & Margaret Elizabeth Heaven.
If this fits in with your family tree, please contact me.
Thank you, Anne Bate

Re: bate family of Dudley

bob696139 — 2012-04-05 10:22:01Z

Ben was my grandfather. I know this is an old thread but I only just spotted it. Ask any questions

Re: BATE family of WOLVERHAMPTON info needed

MAngusYanke — 2012-03-28 16:11:58Z

My ancestors were William (1852) & Emily Bate of Wolverhampton c. 1885; Wm's parents were George Bate and Charlotte Bingham of Warwick, Warwickshire. Wm's siblings were Frederick (1859), Emma (1857) and Thomas(1861. If there is any connection to our families, I would be most happy to pursue this with you.

William John Bate of Tettenhall, Staffordshire

roylefran1 — 2012-03-16 12:25:08Z

Hi, does anyone have any information about William John Bate (born St Ann, Soho, c. 1801, died Tettenhall 1858)? In the 1841 and 1851 census data he is living at Lane Green, Tettenhall, with his wife Ann (nee Lucas) and their children. His occupation is given as tutor, and on various of his children's marriage certificates he is described as 'linguist', 'professor of languages', 'schoolmaster' and (on his eldest daughter Eleanor's marriage certificate) 'gentleman'! According to the family history, he spoke seven languages and was estranged from his family. His cause of death in 1858 was recorded as 'disease of the liver' ...

I'd be really grateful to learn anything about this chap!

Fran

Thomas Bate

lrll3 — 2012-03-11 02:02:45Z

We are looking for information on Thomas Bate, father of Joseph Bate. They lived in Staffordshire England. We figure he was born around 1790. We do not have any further information on this individual. Joseph was married to Sarah Jones. If anyone has any information that would help we would appreciate it. Thank you.

Re: Stephn & Elizab. Bate, Egloshayle

roseinlasvegas — 2012-02-23 13:13:16Z

AWESOME!!! This sure helps fill in some blanks! Well, keep in touch, Cuz!

Rose Marie Bates-Fontanero

My tree is on Ancestry.com also

Re: Stephn & Elizab. Bate, Egloshayle

802dave — 2012-02-23 11:57:46Z

Hi Rose,

I have as Stephen Bate’s parents, Stephen Bate & Margaret Woolcock. They were married 08 May, 1771 in St. Mabyn. This Stephen passed away 27 Nov 1820 at age 74 and Margaret passed away 13 Jan 1831. They’re both buried in Egloshayle. Their children were (as best I could figure): Margaret (01-15-1775), Dorothy (11-9-1777), Margaret (01-28-1881), Stephen (02-29-1784), Thomas (05-27-1787), and Allice (12-11-1791).

Additional info:

Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Parish Records: 1600-1989

Baptisms/Christenings:
All of the following Baptisms listed the "abode" as Burlorne:

John son of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate Sept 03, 1806
William son of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate Dec 26, 1808
Thomas son of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate June 2, 1811
Stephen son of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate Dec 26, 1813
Robert son of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate Feb 11, 1816
Francis son of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate Sept 27, 1818
Elizabeth Daughter of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate Sept 16, 1821
Robert son of Stephen & Elizabeth Bate July 27, 1823

Marriage record on the same microfilm roll listed Thomas Bate married Ann Blake 03 Dec 1835.

1841 Census: Egloshayle, Cornwall, England
Place (abode): Burlorne

Thomas Bate 30 Farmer
Ann " 30
Mary " 30
John " 4/12
Elizabeth " 15?
Robert " 15?

Another message I had posted on an ancestry site:
Since my original message, I have located all of Stephen & Elizabeth's children and where they have lived in the USA:
John, Stephen, Francis, Elizabeth, & Robert all lived in the Dyberry Twp in Wayne County, PA. William lived in the Clinton Twp in Wayne County, PA. And Thomas lived in Rockford, Illinois.
I was able to obtain Civil War pension records on Francis which contained information that proved his connection to his parents, Stephen & Elizabeth, in Egloshayle Parish, Cornwall, England.

Hope this is readable; I'm doing this in a hurry...

Good luck!
Dave Bates

Joseph Henry Bate

lrll3 — 2012-02-23 03:45:44Z

I am looking for information on Joseph Henry Bate b. 1811 married to Sarah Ann Jones b. 1822. Both of them were from England. If any one has any information on this couple I would appreciate any help. They had a child Samuel Bate b. 1851. That is all the information I have at this point. Thanks

Re: Stephn & Elizab. Bate, Egloshayle

roseinlasvegas — 2012-02-22 05:17:43Z

hello. I am descended from Thomas Bate and Ann Blake. Thomas' parents being Stephen Bate and Elizabeth Bere. Around 1843 Thomas and Ann immigrated to Pennsylvania with their son William, who married Lorreta Knapp. Then in 1853 John S Bate was born. He married Lorreta's sister, Lucretia Knapp. She died and John married Annie A Seegert (of German descent}in 1891 in Illinois. Before 1910 all the American Bate's moved to San Bernardino, California where they stayed. They had John Daniel Bates, who was my Grandpa. He married Leota Mae Green of California, and they had a daughter Rose Louise and my Dad, John Daniel Bates, Jr. My dad married Emiko Tone from Okinawa. I have 2 brothers, John Stanly and William Harrison. I was born in 1955 and I have been working on this research for awhile. I'm guessing I have tons of relatives in Egloshayle!!!! I cannot find the parents of Stephen Bate. Any help there?
Rose Marie Bates-Fontanero

Richard BATE 1520-1590 or 1570 Cornwall - related to Royal houses

thetreeclimber — 2011-11-02 04:26:32Z

Does anyone have any connections or information on Richard Bate - it appears that he is a direct relation to Swedish Lords and Ladies and directly related to many of the Royal houses of Europe. Any help welcome.

Re: Bate Family

Janiebk — 2011-08-30 03:50:30Z

hey, your comment really interested me because many of the traits you mentioned are also facts in our family which my grandmother told me about the Bates which were a part of her family. i also know the my great grandparents where very famous musicians, the ended up being based in New Zealand, but there is scholarships and prizes in their names at a university there. my mother is now in charge in writing letters of congratulation to the recipients of this prize. if you would like it would be great to swap notes
janae

Re: Bate Crest

philipbate — 2011-08-04 18:25:41Z

If you go to www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk you will see 2 maps.One will show where the Bate's were living in 1881. The most populous were Lancs and Shropshire(where my ancestors came from) followed by Cornwall/Devon.
Regards
PBate

Re: Bate Family from newcastle upon tyne

Jacki_Donovan — 2011-05-24 21:31:56Z

I see from your other thread that he was actually married to Karen. Found an entry in 1974 for a hutchinson but clicking on `find spouse` doesn`t work. I think because its been mis-transcribed as a reverse search for Karen Hutchison shows the same marriage. Do you have the marriage cert? That should give a little more info on him, like fathers name and age i think? With that you might find his death cert, maybe the informant was a relative?

Bate Family from newcastle upon tyne

louisewain47 — 2011-05-24 21:12:19Z

trying to find out more about alan john bate and karen hutchison, alan owed a hotel in newcastle upon tyne and karen worked for him, he had about 5 children with another lady

thanks

Re: Bate Family from newcastle upon tyne

louisewain47 — 2011-05-24 20:45:48Z

alan john bate 1938 -???? has passed away not sure when trying to find out about alans mum and dad and grandparants and any other family members
think all 5 children would still be alive
this is all i know about him

Thanks

Re: Bate Family from newcastle upon tyne

Jacki_Donovan — 2011-05-24 20:01:52Z

Any dates for the family?
Have your tried the phone book or electoral rolls?
If you know the childrens names you could look for their marriages perhaps?
Maybe a letter to the local paper?
Hard to know without more detail, which if these people are still living is difficult obviously. I imagine you would want to respect their privacy.

bate and hutchison

louisewain47 — 2011-05-22 20:21:44Z

Hi Everyone
Iam trying to find out more about Alan John Bate (1938) & Karen Hutchison(1951) from newcastle upon tyne Alan owned a
hotel in newcastle and karen worked for him. He also had about 5 children with another lady before he married Karen

any information about alan and karen would be a great help
Thank you
Louise

Re: Bate Crest

dpbates2 — 2011-04-20 11:23:55Z

I traced my Bates line back, several years ago, and records are pretty scarce before 1780 or so.

It's been about 10 years since I've done much research. I did a timeline and plotted where my ancestors lived in Cornwall and the further back in time I went, the closer to Devon they lived.

Without more records, it's just a guess where they originated from.

Re: Bate Crest

highway4south — 2011-04-19 22:48:19Z

I have a picture in B&W of the Bate Crest, seems it is the same one as has been described here. I found out that Yorkshire did seem to be an area where the early Bate name was found most commonly. Does anyone know if they were of Saxon origin? Most of my ancestors who we can trace back about 300 years seem to have lived in Cornwall England. There are other theories of the origin of the name besides that of Bartholomew. The Italian name for Abbott is Abate, and there is the French name of Labate. I cannot say anything about Whorlton Castle. Our oldest known
Bate ancestor was John Bate from Cornwall, who married a Peggy Whiting, I have most of the lineages from that union.

Re: James Samlley Bate

kenbate07 — 2011-01-28 01:57:58Z

Tina,
Nice to hear from you, Cuz! I would have contacted you sooner but I never got a reply notification from the Ancestry site until now. ??

I would be grateful to get some info concerning my grandfather's (George Guy Franklin Hyson) family since he died tragically when mother (Violet Hyson) was young. As a consequence I never knew him. I just recently got a copy of his WWI draft card as a result of researching mother’s ancestry which I just started. Her background will be rather difficult to track especially her American Indian heritage.

So far I have only been able to trace the Bate surname back to circa 1450; however, I’ve been able to trace some of the numerous maternal links of our family back into antiquity. These direct links include many persons of Royal and of Historical acclaim; e.g. Constantine I ‘the Great’, Emperor of Rome (268 – 337) and etc. I've listed many of these individuals in the first part of an Article I put together several years ago named, "The Bate Family of England, Maryland, Virginia and Kentucky". Part I includes brief narratives of those living in the years 1448 through 1836.
I'm currently working on part II which will include abstracts of Great Grandfather John Throckmorton, Grandfather J.W., father Langston F. and me. I hope to have this completed by this year or next year at the latest.

Now that I have your e-mail address I’ll get with you directly to exchange the other information that you mentioned. Of course you may have any family information that I have.

My e-mail address is ken_bate07@comcast.net
My best to all !! Ken

Re: James Samlley Bate

ZerettaGouldHyson — 2011-01-24 20:12:53Z

Hi Kenneth,
It's been a while. I am anxious to read your latest Bate family research. I have research to share.

Also, I have a copy of an old family photo. I think it was taken in Danville, Ky. upon the death of "Papa" Bate. The photo includes my grandfather, your uncle "Willie" and his four siblings... Your father, Langston, uncle Clarance, aunts Vivian Bate Peeler and Helen...Bausman?

You would be my second cousin and first cousin to my mother and her siblings, Camille I. Bate, John W. Bate III, Kenneth L. Bate, and Randle H. Bate.

My email address is zariyat2003@yahoo.com.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Zeretta (Tina)Gould Hyson

Re: SOPHIA BATE

yvonneclark66 — 2011-01-21 06:30:46Z

Hi Steph,
Thanks for the info on Isaiah & Sophia, Another
Cousin Dave Bate mentioned that Sophia's family where
gypsies,do you know anything about that??????
Do you know if Sophia had a brother ???
Yes it's lovey to meet you too cus.
Could you give me your private e-mail address?????????
Mind is === yec123@bigpond.com
I would love to hear from you.
Gee the floods here in Queensland Australia are very bad.
My daughter got flooded in the house.
Well Ihad better say bye for now,I can't wait to hear from you.
Your Aussie Cous. Yvonne

Re: Bate, Bates

mikeb1955 — 2010-12-22 16:21:09Z

Thanks Dave, this is very helpful!

Patti

Re: Bate, Bates

davidbate115 — 2010-12-22 12:37:00Z

From my researches into my surname it became clear that it is quite common for the 's' to appear and disappear from the surname in the BMD, parish and census records.

I think it became fixed when people became increasingly literate and could express which spelling they favoured. Before that people had to depend on spelling ability of the officiating person, not knowing what they had written.

I have Bate and Bates branches on my tree.

If you can confirm other names, father, mother and siblings across the various census records then you can be confident. Occupations and places of birth will help too.

Dave

Bate, Bates

mikeb1955 — 2010-12-21 02:09:42Z

Does anyone know if Bate and Bates would be the same? William H Bates was my great grandfather from Dundee, Scotland born in 1859. On the 1861, 1871 Scottish census, his name is spelled Bate. He came to Chicago in 1886 and the 1900 census was Bates. I just want to make sure I have the right person! Thanks for any help.

Re: SOPHIA BATE

davidbate115 — 2010-11-28 09:44:07Z

Hi folks.

Can you explain the Himley connection as I have seen it on trees but I can see no documentation to back it up. I'd love to get some solid confirmation.

Joseph appears in the 1841 census but has died before the 1851 where we would have a place of birth. The 1821 marriage entry has no real data for parentage either.

I know their son Benjamin spent some time over that part of south Staffordshire Worcestershire when he married Emily. Perhaps Edwin met Mary Ann (Wassell) Plant there too.

Dave

Re: SOPHIA BATE

pocketts_1 — 2010-11-28 00:11:49Z

Hi Yvonne,
Sophia was born in 1823 in cheslyn hay cannock staffordshire uk.She married in 1842 in cheslyn to Isaiah bate.Death of sophia unknown will look into records . my side is the bate side but will try to find out as much as poss for you. Isaiah who married sophia his parent were Joseph Bate 1860 cheslyn hay and Anne Stackhouse 1802 of Darlaston Staffs.then you have Joseph Bate 1775 in Himley Married Jane Edge born 1778 in Hodnet Salop Staffs married 1798 . then back to Joseph Bate 1742 Kingswinford Staffs to Elizabeth Birch 1746 in Tattenhill Staffs Marr:1768 in Hodnet Salop Staffs. these are my relatives , my grandad was Horace Bate born 1895 married to Ada Barker in 1893 in Cannock staffs hope this helps if i find any more info will let you know.....P.s hello cus nice to meet you x x

Re: SOPHIA BATE

yvonneclark66 — 2010-11-27 04:20:15Z

Hi Step,
Do know when Sophia's parents married and what was her father's christen name???
Also what was her mother's full name,madian and christen names,plus the year's that they were born and died???
I will look forward to your reply,
Or yes are you related to them???
Kind Regards. Yvonne (from Oz)

Re: SOPHIA BATE

pocketts_1 — 2010-11-27 01:56:48Z

hi there David. sophia was a Hodgkins that married Isaiah Bate. The Hodgkins Family were gypsies that had travelled from Lineholt and Hartleburry common and stayed for a while in Cheslyn Hay before the moved on towards Stafford and Derby.
I have gone into depths on both sides of my family .....Dad ...Bate...Mother back to Hodgkins and also found out that some had lived in Jacobs Hall Named Smithback in the 1930's.
hope this has helped .record go back to 1600-1700. Hodnet, Yoxall, cheslyn hay, Great wyrley and Cannock
Steph

Bate Families from Helland/Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England

dpbates2 — 2010-11-13 22:50:00Z

I'm looking to share information with Bate/Bates that have ancestors from Helland, Saint Mabyn, Blisland, Egloshayle, & Wadebridge. I'm hoping to find someone with knowledge of Saint Kew, Saint Tudy, Cardinham, Bodmin, Lanivet, Saint Breward, Saint Breock, & Saint Issey Bate families.

David Bates

Re: Bate Families from Helland/Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England

mlbate — 2010-11-13 18:37:31Z

Hi Paula,

I'm pretty sure that your Charles Bate is the brother of my James Henry Bate.

As far as I can make out from the Cornwall online parish clerks their mother Rachel Lawry baptised St. Issey 1/12/1779, married William Bate 1/1/1801 St. Mabyn. They were both buried at Helland, him 17/1/1861 her 10/1/1862.

They appear on the 1841 and 1851 census in Bodmin.

So far I have found the following children:

baptised in Helland:
John 18/5/1807
Elizabeth Lowry (probably Lawry) 2/7/1809
Catherine 14/4/1811
Hender 28/2/1813
James 12/1/1815 buried 5/2/1815
Rachel 13/10/1816
baptised in Cardinham:
Mary 28/12/1818
James Henry 24/2/1821
Charles 20/8/1826

Louise

Re: Bate

mlbate — 2010-11-12 22:53:01Z

Hi Wendy,

I am pretty sure we are related!

However you have some inccorect information.

It was Leonard's son Alan who emigrated and he went to Fremantle Australia.

Stanley was my dad.

I have traced the Bate family back to Cornwall.

Your grandfather's (John Lewis Bate, born in Plymouth) father was James Henry Bate who was born in Cardinham.

Louise

Re: James Samlley Bate

zariyat20031 — 2010-08-17 13:09:41Z

Hi Kenneth,
we are cousins on your father's side. My grandfather John W. Bate was your father's older brother. Also, your mother Violet was a relative of my husband's....Russell M. Hyson, a native of Washington D.C.. Small world.
I have information on "Papa" Bate and would like to share it with you.
Looking forward to hearing from you. My email address is zariyat2003@yahoo.com

Re: Idaho Springs -- John Bernard Bate

mlbate — 2010-08-02 20:56:09Z

Whereabouts in Cornwall did he come from. There are quite a few Bate graves in Cardinham churchyard. Have you tried the Cornwall family history society (cornwallfhs.com)?

Idaho Springs -- John Bernard Bate

mwuerstl — 2010-08-02 16:02:50Z

I am looking for info on the family of John Bernard Bate (b 13 Dec 1880) who emigrated from Corwall England with his parents (John Bate / Amelia Watters -- i think they both immigrated -- his father for sure did) sometime around 1900 and setled in Idaho Springs CO. He married Agnes Mitchell (b 9 May 1885) daughter of John & Sarah Ann Mitchell.

Any info on ancestors & siblings would be greatly appreciated.

Re: James Samlley Bate

zariyat20031 — 2010-07-28 21:33:25Z

Kenneth,
have you read this book: The city of Louisville and a glimpse of Kentucky by Young Ewing Allison? There is a reference to the Weissinger & Bate Tobacco Company...2x? uncle Phil Bate was a partner. A I have an on-line copy of two early tobacco can prints sent by a distant relative of Weissinger's if you would like to see it.

R/Tina
zariyat2003@yahoo.com

http://books.google.com/books?id=Hx48AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA107&a...

Re: James Samlley Bate

zariyat20031 — 2010-07-28 19:50:21Z

Kenneth,
nice to hear from you. We are first cousins. My grandfather, John W. Bate Jr. was your father Langston's older brothee. My first husband Russell M. Hyson was a relative of your mother's. I believe her name was Violet. I spoke with her many years ago. I called in D.C. and she was gracious enough to give me a short interview.

I attended a convocation at Berea College some years ago and they gave me a copy of primary documentation on "Papa Bate."

It contained some obscure information on his early life. Also there was a reference to his mother Nancy's mother, sister Kitty and an uncle. They were living on the Green, Greene farm near Louisville, 1860's.

Please feel free to contact me. I woule love to read your research. My email address is zariyat2003 at yahoo.com

Re: Bate Crest

pincoya50 — 2010-07-09 00:04:44Z

A William Bate from England around the same year married my Great great grandmother.
He too was working as a doctor in a ship.
I am pretty sure they are the same person only the name of his wife is not the same.
There is another person also looking for him,she is from ingland and you can find her @ curiousfox.com. Her name is not given nor her email address so i have not able to contact her.
Hope you see this post !

I Am happy to share what little info I have.

Harry C. Bate of Ashland, OH 1943

drbrownlee — 2010-06-21 02:18:12Z

Harry is pictured in a 1943 flight annual from Victory Field in Vernon, Texas. I'm not kin but thought this might help others seeking family.

thomas bate great great grandfather

steb123 — 2010-06-03 01:30:52Z

Can anyone help,i've hit the famous brick wall!
Unable to find on the 1851 census(aged between 18 and 24).
Ages based on later census info, thats if i have the correct info.
details:birth date between 1825 and 1829,also based on conflicting info from later census.Born in Kingswinford, staffs, england.
Earliest date i have is from the marriage cert,1854,married to sarah ward in birmingham,england at st martins church.
Also avoiding me is his father,also named thomas,but his occupation is shown on certificate as school master-possibly a good clue,
Hope you can put me out of my misery.
Thanks
Stephen Bate.

Sarah Bate, wife of John Barrett of Braintree, Mass

diane_land — 2010-05-27 21:27:18Z

Has anyone worked on Sarah Bate's genealogy? Some sites claim that she was the daughter of Clement and Ann ( Dalrymple) Bates. She was born abt 1632. Some sites say she was born in Lydd Kent (where the Bates family came from) and some say she was born in Massachusettes. One site had execerpts from Clement Bates'will and there was no mention of a daughter Sarah. And if that is not her line, who are possible parents for her? Thanks- Diane

Re: SOPHIA BATE

davidbate115 — 2010-04-01 07:10:37Z

Another re-marriage? I'll check that one out later too.

Regards
Dave B

Re: SOPHIA BATE

davidbate115 — 2010-04-01 07:08:11Z

Hi Yvonne.
Yes I have her 1878 re-marriage to John Hawkins.

Rugeley, Staffordshire, England
HAWKINS John
BATE(STOKES) Sophia
St Michael,Brereton, Cannock Chase C2BM/1/234

Notice the use of Stokes as a previous name. As far as a know the grave yard of at St Marks church has been cleared of grave stones, the same for St Lukes in Cannock.

Young Sophie did in deed marry Charles. In 1881 they are living in Rumerhill with Charles and Sophie.

In 1891 Sophie and Charles are in Bridgtown.

Young Sophie re-marries somewhere in Walsall in 1895 to new hubby is John Wilkins.

Better get going to work.
Regards
Dave B

Re: SOPHIA BATE

yvonneclark66 — 2010-04-01 04:33:23Z

Hi Dave ,
Sophia's remarried in 1879/1884,I wrote the wrong yrs.
Regards Aussie Cus

Re: SOPHIA BATE

yvonneclark66 — 2010-04-01 04:31:09Z

Hi Dave,
Yes I have the marriage for Isaiah Bate and Sophia Hodgkins.
Isaiah is and was Edwin's oler brother so that woukd mak Edwin my 2 or 3 times my great uncle.
That Sophia Bate that you are talking about is Isaiah & Sophia"s daughter born abt 1857 in Cheslyn Hay,yes I do know that Sophia 1857 was married to a Charles Harvey marr: abt 1877 Lichfield is that the same one as yours???
Dave I also belive that Sophia(Hodgkins) remarried after Isaiah died,it was to a John Hawkins abt 1780's they lived in Rummer Hill Cannock I don't know true that is .
Do you have any photos of any of the Bate families resting place,are they buried at St Mark's Church yard do you know???
Talk soon.
regards from your Aussie cus.Yvonne

Re: SOPHIA BATE

davidbate115 — 2010-03-29 21:28:34Z

One other thing I did notice is that they lived next to John and Rebecca Stokes for decades.

Do you have anything for their daughter Sophia Bate? I have a possible marriage to Charles Harvey and the John Wilkins later.

Dave

Re: SOPHIA BATE

davidbate115 — 2010-03-29 20:47:59Z

Hi. Yvonne
I have this marriage entry for them. As you say it lists her father as J. Hodgkins. (NOTE: There is one other Isaiah Bate who was baptised in Wolverhampton 1820 with a Joseph Bate as his father.)

30/0113
27 Dec 1841
Isaiah Bates 20 b x Miner Wolverhampton J.Bates Maltster &
Sophia Hodgkins 20 s x Wolverhampton J.Hodgkins Miner
B J.Perkins & J.Biddulph jr.

George Cottom, St.Peters

This type of entry is common as Cheslyn Hay and Gt Wyrley was still under St Peters Collegate Church in Wolverhampton for weddings. Although baptisms at Cannock were the usual arrangement.

There isn't a an entry in the Methodist records for CH and GW. There is one baptism entry in the IGI for a Sophia born around 1823 (according to the 51 census DOB) that is close phonetically.

SOPHIA HODSKISS
20 APR 1823 Cannock, Stafford, England
Mother: THEODOSIA HODSKISS
St Luke Cannock.

Also there is an entry for Elizabeth Hodgekins who married Joseph Stokes on 27 Sept 1824 at Cannock.

Incidentally Isaiah Bate is/was one of my 2x Great grandfather Edwin Bate's older brothers.

Hope these help a bit. I'd like to find out too as These were all I had scrapped together.

Regards
Dave B