Biggin - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

Brooksbig — 2009-04-28 03:35:31Z

Hi Audrey,

You must have misread my earlier post. I was replying to a query made by Suebell913.

Scott

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

nightstar1951 — 2009-04-27 21:08:08Z

Im sorry but your biggin isnt the same line as mine,

regards audrey

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

nightstar1951 — 2009-04-27 21:06:38Z

Hi Im Sorry but the Biggin im researching isnt the same as yours im sorry i cant help you with it,
regards audrey

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

Brooksbig — 2009-04-24 05:03:06Z

Suebell913,

I am researching the same Biggin family in Pylle. If you want to compare notes, email me at pieta4mi@telus.net

Scott

Re: Need information on Biggin or Collins Family

monniegirl2004 — 2009-03-26 17:50:11Z

hi Bill. The only thing I have is Agnes Licille BIGGINS married twice - first an Eric WESSELMAN. They had one child - a daughter Francis Lucille WESSELMAN who married a William Allan SPITZENBERGER and they had a daughter Kerry Ann SPITZENBERGER. Agnes remaried - Fay BOWMAN. Have no more information. If you do, please email me at cmorriss@gosiouxlookout.com

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

Suebell913 — 2009-02-05 03:35:17Z

Researching the Biggin Family who came to Trumbull County, Ohio from Somerset County, England. Thomas Biggin married Elizabeth Hawkins about 1836. They are listed in the 1841 census in Evercreech, Somerset and Elizabeth's mother Ann Hawkins was living with them and their 4 or 5 children. Thomas Biggin's father was also Thomas and his father was Peter. Elizabeth Hawkins was sister to William Dredge Hawkins who settled in Bloomfield Twp. in 1844. William D. Hawkins is my gr-gr-gr-grandfather. I have additional information on other siblings in England

Douglas Alan Elmhurst Biggin

gwhitton1 — 2008-12-11 18:19:51Z

I am looking for descendants of Douglas Alan Elmhurst Biggin. He married Muriel Moore Martin on 18 June 1932 at Bierlow, York. The fathers are Albert Ernest Biggin and Walter Edward Martin respectively.

Re: Biggin

JaneTrent395 — 2008-01-03 23:21:30Z

I did reply earlier to your message board posting regarding Henry Biggin and James Barber information, but I am not sure whether you have read it yet.
Since my reply I have found further information about James Barber's death - Taken from The Graphic, Saturday, April 25, 1885 [Printed in London] p 403
In his sixty-ninth year of Mr. James BARBER, who formerly was regarded as one of the richest men of the Turf, but died in poverty in a public-house at Sheffield.
I think you may have looked at the Lapworth Family Tree I have posted - let me know what you think of it and whether you have any more information I have missed.
Look forward to hearing from you again soon.
Jane Trent (nee LAPWORTH)

Re: Biggin

JaneTrent395 — 2007-12-29 23:28:38Z

I am very excited about your recent Message Board entry and it has given me several more research topics. I will invite you to my family tree so that you can see what I have found so far and some photos. Hilda was indeed the youngest child of Henry and Alicia, and my mother has her date of birth from an old address book as 10 Nov (1884). The brother who worked in the factory I believe is Harry (apprentice cutler) - born about 1866. I would love to see any photos you have of the family and if you have any letters. We also do have some Biggin scissors. Can you tell me how yours are marked. Ours are marked H Biggin, Sheffield. These were probably made early in Henry's career as they do not have the later stainless steel mark of Henry over Biggin & co over Sheffield. The disowned son may have been Lewin, born 18 Dec 1874.
Regarding James Barber - my Dad heard family stories passed down about horse racing and you have confirmed it, though we were not told it was through betting. Some of our family at that time would have liked to have kept that secret. James was listed on Alicia's marriage certificate as a Gentleman.
The Sarah Sellors bit also rings true, although she is spelt Sellas in the address book. One of the Sarah Sellas's was born 27 Dec and we believe we have a picture of her.
I am also communicating with the great great grandson of Lewin (Henry's brother) and hopefully we can gain a lot more information from one another as time goes on. Fantastic information, thankyou.

Re: Biggin

ciaranmac1 — 2007-12-29 16:56:57Z

I'm a descendant of Henry Biggin through his youngest daughter Hilda, who was born in 1884. My mother has photographs of family members including Alicia, and there was also an obituary of Alicia's father James although I'm not sure who in the family has it now. My mother also has a scissors which came through Hilda Biggin from one of her brothers who was working at a cutlery factory - possibly one of those you mentioned.

James Barber was apparently a very wealthy man at the time of his daughter's marriage. His money came from gambling - the story goes that he won a racehorse in a card game on a boat bound for France, where the horse was entered in a race. The horse won that race and this was the foundation of his wealth. His obituary says he owned a horse which won the Epsom Oaks and that he sold a horse which later won the Grand National. His name does not appear in the list of winning owners for the Oaks. According to the obit, he was one of the wealthiest men in England at one time but lost most of his wealth as easily as he won it.

One of Henry's sons was apparently disowned for gambling. Alicia used to send packages in secret for his wife and child - possibly she was more sympathetic because of her own father's story.

From looking at birth, marriage and census records I'm pretty sure that Henry's father Thomas was born in Dronfield in 1805, and Henry's mother Sarah Sellors was from Bakewell. One of his daughters was named Sarah Sellors Biggin which corroborates my theory. The Biggin name appears continuously in Norton parish records as far back as Elizabethan times.

Re: Biggin

ciaranmac1 — 2007-12-29 16:56:30Z

Re: Biggin

JaneTrent395 — 2007-10-08 21:37:03Z

Sorry, meant to say that Henry Biggin born 1833 in Norton, Derbyshire

Re: Biggin

JaneTrent395 — 2007-09-30 20:35:27Z

Dave
How exciting to "meet" and converse with another member of my family.
Thankyou so much for your reply and it would be lovely to hear what your Great Aunt knows about any of this. So sorry, it was very late when I posted the message last night - I meant Henry Biggin was born in 1833 in Little Norton in Derbyshire, the 2nd child/son of Thomas and Sarah Biggin. Lewin was Thomas and Sarah's 4th child.
As I think I said, Thomas and Sarah Biggin were reputedly roustabout farmers and not very well off. Lewin obviously bettered himself by emigrating. Henry, as the family history goes, fell in love with Alicia Barber who's father was a "Gentleman". He married her 21/7/1862. However, in order to win her hand, Henry worked hard to better himself and became an apprentice cutler, then cutler's clerk, then a cutlery retailer and manufacturer. This is given as fact by the Census's 1841-1901. Do you have access to these, or shall I copy them to you? I can send just the ones containing Lewin if you would like.
Henry apparently bought and/or started 3 cutlery firms (H G Long and Co, Turner, Son and Naylor, and I E Sorby - I have found his Trademark for Henry Biggin and Co - but have yet to prove the link to the others. I have also found that he bought shares in the Benefit Boot Company in 1897. The slightly sadder but probably predictable part is that following his death in 1905, the Sons(one of whom was also called Lewin by the way) and Son-in-Laws squandered the whole lot within their generation. I may be able to prove this outcome when I hear from the people looking at the Benefit Boot Company.
It would be lovely to hear what you know about your Lewin and as we discover more, to keep in touch.
My direct email is fossicking@tiscali.co.uk if you ever want to communicate outside of Ancestry and don't want to put it on the bulletin board.
Jane

Re: Biggin

davsnh2 — 2007-09-30 04:05:48Z

Was excited to hear from you,didn't expect to get a response so quickly. The date you provided was not what I'd expected (1883) as Lewin was born in 1835, is it possible Henry is a nephew of Lewin? My Great Aunt has most of the knowledge of the family history, I will talk to her to get more details about known siblings and inlaws etc. Again, thank you so much for the quick response, it would be fascinating to connect with distant family and discover more of the history.

Dave

Re: Biggin

JaneTrent395 — 2007-09-30 00:40:31Z

Lewin Biggin was the brother of Henry Biggin born 1883 - my Great Great Grandfather.
It is said that their father, Thomas Biggin was a roustabout farmer and certainly Henry (and possibly Lewin) wanted to better themselves - Henry in order to be worthy of the hand of Alicia Barber who he later married.
If you would like more information on Henry and his descendants, please reply to this and I can fill you in. Likewise, if you can give me more info on Lewin and his descendants, I will be really pleased.
Thanks
Jane

Re: Biggin

davsnh2 — 2007-09-27 04:41:51Z

Lewin Biggin was my GG.Grandfather From area Little Norton Derbyshire, England. emigrated to Wisconsin,USA in 1870s.

From History of Grant County, Wisconsin, 1881, p. 1023.
TOWN OF GLEN HAVEN
LEWIN BIGGIN, farmer, Sec. 21; P. O. North Andover; born in 1835 in Derbyshire, England; was a son of Thomas and Sarah Biggin, of England; resided there until the age of 35, when he emigrated to America; located in the town of Glen Haven, where he has lived since; is a prosperous farmer; has 160 acres of land, valued at $5,000. Was married in 1858, to Mary Parker, a daughter of Thomas Parker, in England; has six children - Alice M., Thomas, Harry, William L., Sarah A., Joseph. Politics, Greenbacker.

Re: Sarah Biggin

2006-09-11 03:25:38Z

Sorry cannot help you directly with your Sarah.
BUT, I am descended from Mary Anne Biggin ( 1828 - Hasland) - she married William Oliver from Chestefield.
Anyway, am very interested in any information I can get regarding the Biggin family from the Chesterfield area of Derbyshire.
If you are interested would love to hear from you,.
Best of wishes with your search. Carol.

Lewin BIGGIN Biography, ENG<WI

RMunns7272 — 2006-07-18 19:49:36Z

From "History of Grant County, Wisconsin", 1881, p. 1023.

TOWN OF GLEN HAVEN

LEWIN BIGGIN, farmer, Sec. 21; P. O. North Andover; born in 1835 in Derbyshire, England; was a son of Thomas and Sarah Biggin, of England; resided there until the age of 35, when he emigrated to America; located in the town of Glen Haven, where he has lived since; is a prosperous farmer; has 160 acres of land, valued at $5,000. Was married in 1858, to Mary Parker, a daughter of Thomas Parker, in England; has six children - Alice M., Thomas, Harry, William L., Sarah A., Joseph. Politics, Greenbacker.

[I am not related to this family. I'm posting this as a service and hope it helps!]

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

Brooksbig — 2006-03-03 06:29:59Z

Andrew,

Came across your posting by accident as my email address has changed. Here is Judith's letter written to: Tho Street Bird Esq, Fish Street Pool, Dorset

Honoured Sir

Pylle Feb. 2nd, 1844

I have this day rec’d a letter from my son James Biggin from Newfoundland stating that he has sent me two letter this last year neither of which has come to my hands, and he also informs that he has sent an order to you to pay me two Pounds each year past and I have received 2 pounds in 1842 but none for the last year nor have I ever heard any thing of it from you. Will you be so kind as to send me a line to let me know whether you rec’d the order or whether you know any thing about it further

I am Honoured Sir
your Humble servant
Judith Biggin

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

AndrewBillinghurst — 2005-12-17 14:07:54Z

Scott,

You mention a letter written by Judith Biggin (nee Allen), I am wondering whether you would be able to share that letter with the fellow descendents of the Biggin family.

Regards Andrew

Re: Need information on Biggin or Collins Family

billgrimes99 — 2005-11-19 02:20:04Z

Hi Cathie,

Still here? Looking for info on a Mathew Biggins who was married to Mary Meade in South Dakota c1890-1900. They had a daughter Agnes.

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

2005-08-10 00:56:27Z

Hi Pat,My grandfather is Archibald Biggin from Daniel's Harbour Newfoundland,My G G G grandfather is the James you mention in your post.Would be very interested in any further info you may have on our family.Please feel free to email me,Thank's Bruce.

Biggin

shlasi — 2004-11-12 10:31:44Z

Thomas Biggin of Dore , Derbyshire, England was my g.g.grandfather.He was a farmer and scythe manufacturer. Born in Norton,Derbyshire, England, about 1840.( the 1851 Census sheet is hard to read). Anyone connected? There are links, as yet unexplored, to U.S.A.

Sarah Biggin

pauline15041 — 2004-08-19 10:00:33Z

Trying to locate a SARAH BIGGIN married Benjamin Marsden 29 Dec 1788 at St James, Norton, Derbyshire, England. Died 15 June 1821 age 50 years. Therefore born 1771. Marriage stated of Dronfield. I have located two Sarah Biggin at Norton but these are both wrong one born 1762 and one born 1765. One died and one married a Birtles.
Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Pylle

WJDent — 2003-08-09 21:29:08Z

Sorry for delay...I have been away. I dont have anything on your family but will let you know if anything shows up.

Happy searching,

Wendy

Pylle

2003-08-01 21:28:22Z

I noticed the name Pylle Somerset. I am desperate to find information of a family from Pylle. John Fry and his wife Martha moved to Pylle in about 1875-1879. They had 6 children, 1 of whom were born in Pylle. My gr,gr-grandfather John made the font lid at Pylle which still remains to this day. He was a carpenter. Their children in age order were: Martha, ethel,francies,Sarah, Arthur,and Walter.
If you are able to help in any way with any info what so ever it would be great. Thatnks for your time.
Janie

Re: Lots of info on Jack Biggin and family

2003-05-14 19:34:43Z

Hi Mike!
This is your cousin, Frank! Ken's son. send me your number and I'll call you.

Re: Lots of info on Jack Biggin and family

2003-02-10 20:25:15Z

Think this may not be the Jack Biggin of Liverpool.Jack had three younger brothers, all living. Ron, Ken and Geoff. Grandfather Frank; Born in Woodstock, Ontario in late 1800's and then came to England with brother Albert. Albert killed in WW1 Frank lived to 86.

Re: Biggin ancestors

2003-02-10 20:20:01Z

Howard!!! No, I'll call you Frank from now on!! How brilliant to hear from you. You introduced me to Neil Young' s "Harvest" album and I remember the last time I saw you I dropped you off at a service station on the M6 at Knutsford. Over the years I tried to get in touch via telephone (San Francisco in the seventies?) and latterly the internet.I always felt I had a closest cousin in you (Mentally similar) My home address is 46, Georges Crescent, Grappenhall, Warrington, Cheshire WA4 2PP. Married with two children and still playing music.
I actually HAD a Moog!! 0044 1925 262831 Cell; 07833 606629.Please get in touch!!

Re: Lots of info on Jack Biggin and family

2003-02-09 23:24:39Z

My name of origin was Biggin. I am the eldest son of Kenneth Biggin, Jack's brother. I haven't heard of you before. Are you the daughter of David?

Re: Biggin ancestors

2003-02-09 23:22:02Z

HI MIKE!!
It's your cousin, Frank. (Ken's son.)
I would love to talk sometime soon. it's only been thirty years!!! I saw Judith twelve years ago along with your Mum & Dad while on a visit to my folks.
I was curious, in your post you mentijoned a fifth son, Albert John, is that Jack's full name? I never heard that before.
Take care, and drop me a line!

JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

Patwike — 2002-12-30 19:45:45Z

James was the oldest child of Thomas (Biggon) Biggin. He married Judith Allen Feb. 23, 1802. James' siblings were as I can figure it out: John, Thomas, Martha, Maryann, Martha, Hannah and Peter. My great great great grandfather was the third born of Thomas and Judith. My Thomas came to America with his eleven children and settled in Vernon, Ohio. He married Elizabeth Hawkins at Evercreech Church, Pylle Parish, Someresetshire, England. They sailed for America in 1857.

BIGGIN GENEALOGY

Patwike — 2002-12-30 19:45:45Z

I'm sorry, I know of no Priscilla. From church records, Parish of Pylle my understanding is that your James parents were:
Peter Bigging and Mary Brice. James siblings were: John b. 10-24-1761, William b. 1-23-1763, Peter b. 3-17-1765, Cornelius b. 12-14-1766, Joseph b. 4-9-1769, Benjamin b. 4-9-1769, Elizabeth b. 7-11-1773, Thomas b. 5-7-1775 (he was my gr gr gr gr grandfather who married Judith Allen m. 2-23-1802), Charles b. 10-19-1777 and George b. 1-2-1780 and d.
5-15-1785. This is the furthest back I can get. Hope this helps. I have a lot on the Thomas Biggin family in America as my mother was Helen Biggin, daughter of Albert and Fannie Holcomb Biggin.

BIGGIN GENEALOGY

Patwike — 2002-12-30 19:45:45Z

After looking further, I have the IGI Pedigree Chart listing Thomas Biggin and his wife Emma Hughes. Thomas's father was Frederick and his wife Mary Ann. This is not my line. I rather imagine this Thomas was a cousin of my Thomas. I find it interesting that the first time my line comes up with a Frederick is the grandson of Thomas from England. Other than that, no Frederick.

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

2002-12-20 06:55:25Z

Hello Pat,

This is really great! The James Biggin you write of, son of Thomas and Judith Biggin, is my gg grandfather who came to Newfoundland and settled about the 1820s. For years now I have been trying to locate any relatives of his to exchange data and here you are!!! Wonderful.

We always knew he came from Somerset, and in 1996 I was about to read a letter written by his mother, Judith, which placed him in Pylle. Since then I got a copy of the Anglican Church records for Pylle and have been able to trace the family back to the early 1700s. About the time you posted this email, my wife and I were in England and visited Pylle and when to a church evening service there on the feast of St. James, patron saint of travellers would you believe! Look forward to hearing from you,

Scott

Re: Need information on Biggin or Collins Family

monicasgirl — 2002-07-10 01:23:50Z

Interesting combination of surnames. I have information on an Edward Collins Biggins, born 1876 in South Dakota to Matthew and Deborah Biggins (Magrath). I wonder if his second name is the surname "Collins". Have quite a bit of info on the Biggin(s) family if you're interested.

Lots of info on Jack Biggin and family

lib_79 — 2002-06-04 10:03:22Z

I am part of the clan. My grandfather was jack Biggin and my grandmother was shirley mcguiness. They had seven children. And 20 grandchildren. I am on of them. They also have 15 great children.

If you want more details e-mail me.

Need information on Biggin or Collins Family

lib_79 — 2002-06-04 10:03:22Z

I am trying to do a family tree and need any information I can get.

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

WJDent — 2001-08-15 05:27:40Z

My apologies...what I meant to ask was James fathers siblings...clearly you have listed James' siblings. Frederick's line are a mixture of Biggin and Biggin Pitt and every spelling combination. Very confusing. I have lots of 1851 census Biggin information but cant sort this Priscilla person out...was she a Biggin or married a Biggin. In IGI and census she has no surname...so keen (too keen) to ask if she was on your list.

Re: JAMES BIGGIN FAMILY

WJDent — 2001-08-15 05:13:27Z

Do you have a list of James' siblings? You mentioned he was the eldest. I have a Frederick Biggin b. Pylle, Somerset 1808 mother Priscilla but not sure if he was illegitimate or child of an earlier marriage than I have for Priscilla (William Pit). Frederick married Mary Ann Mitchel in Evercreech in 1834 so we have a geographical connection at least. 1851 Census has Priscilla living with a James - relationship not given. Frederick's line emigrated to Australia.

Biggin ancestors

2001-04-17 07:44:14Z

My Grandfather Frank was born in Woodstock Ontario in the late 1890'.His father (Thomas) had emigrated to Canada from Liverpool around 1880.Frank ahd a brother Albert who was killed in N France in WW1.
Sons Albert John,Kenneth Ronald and Geoffrey