Bown - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Bown family of Newfoundland

bobpeckford — 2012-05-14 19:01:56Z

Thanks again. Not even the witnesses were Bowns and the only place name mentioned is Change Islands where they were married. Bowns occur at several other locations in Nfld so I will see if I can find any connections there. I will also follow up at the sites you suggest. Beware of Pickford being confused with similar names (Bickford, Peckford etc)
Thanks again

Re: Bown family of Newfoundland

JChidlow7710 — 2012-05-14 17:03:23Z

Is your marriage record for Ann giving any clues, such as names or places of ANY Bowns?
As far as researching in Nova Scotia is concerned, the Nova Scotia Historical Vital Statistics at https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com is your best starting point, if you can find your Bowns, good. If you find others, check the individual records anyway for birthplace of any Bown named. Early marriage bonds are not so helpful, but you ever know what may turn up. I have found the Nova Scotia Genweb helpful as well, but that is spotty. I am presently researching in Nova Scotia materials on other families and will watch for Bown entries for you. I am sure I have seen some.
Curiously, my Somerset Bowns have a connection with Pickfords in Littleton that I have not figured out.

Re: Bown family of Newfoundland

bobpeckford — 2012-05-14 14:04:09Z

Hi
Thanks for this. I will follow the clues but I don’t expect it to be easy. Ann is the only Bown in my family and although I have a full(ish) history of her husband Joseph (my g-g-grandfather) and his line back to Dorset, I’ve never found anything definitive about Ann. Somerset or Dorset are likely origins as most of the English migrants to Newfoundland hailed from those counties – the Peckfords were mostly from Dorset and particularly from Wimborne. Joseph and Ann married in Change Islands and she may have been a first, second or even third generation Newfoundlander. The Bown name still survives in Change Islands but those I contacted did not know of a connection with Ann. Given the link with Nova Scotia I wonder if the family arrived in Newfoundland from there. Any advice on sources for NS would be welcome. Thanks again for responding.

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

JChidlow7710 — 2012-05-14 01:03:32Z

I have been researching a Bown line in Somerset and found a useful tool: FreeReg (http://www.freereg.org.uk). A search of baptisms of Ann Bown born in 1832 + or - 2 years in Somerset or Dorset, found one. She may or may not be yours; that would be quite a task to work out. Are there other Bowns in your area of research? Have you any clues as to where they came from? I'd be checking that out using whatever tools I could find: other Cape Breton Bown family histories and NS Historical Vital Statistics, learning all you can about the couple in question. If possible, I'd also check the records of the place of origin of your Peckford line for Bown records.
My line seems to first show up in Somerton, then spread to nearby locations and Bristol before going to Ontario. The only Ann was too early to be yours, but there are other Somerton Bowns who appear connected, but I have not yet learned how. Keep trying. Your breakthrough may be soon. And best wishes in getting there.

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

bobpeckford — 2012-05-07 14:53:20Z

Hi
I have just found an old posting of yours and am hoping this message will reach you.

I’m trying to trace my great-great grandmother – Ann Bown (born circa 1835) who married my g-g-grandfather Joseph Peckford (born circa 1830) at Change Islands, Newfoundland. Ann and Joseph were married on
3 October 1855 by Rev WA Elder Their several children and subsequent generations remained on Change Islands. I know a good deal about the Peckford line but nothing at all about Ann Bown.

The Peckford family and many others on Change islands originated from Dorset, England and it seems likely that the Bown family might also have gone to Newfoundland from Dorset or neighbouring counties of Somerset or Hampshire

Any information on the English origins of the name would would be gratefully received.
Many thanks
Bob Peckford
Carlisle, England

Re: Bowns in London

melissabond_1 — 2012-04-25 11:28:06Z

I think it's possible that we're related - very distantly but I still think it's possible :-)

I have an Arthur in my tree but had him listed with a different birth date. Minnie was a very popular name, which is the name of my Great, Great Grandmother b. 1870 in Brixton. Her father was Benjamin John b. 1845 and his father was Richard b. 1809. Is it possible that Richard was your Athur William's grandfather?

I have a lot of them living around Lambeth, but some of it I've only gone off of the ancestry records.

My Great Grandmother Edith Minnie came out to Australia with her sister in 1914 and ended up marrying and settling down here, although her sister returned to England.

I have attached a photo of my Great, Great Grandmother Minnie Elizabeth in what I think is her shop in London with her husband Thomas Henry Pharaoh.

Re: Bowns in London

geraldinecox1 — 2012-04-25 10:19:10Z

I have a grandfather, Arthur William Bown, b. 1864 d.1925. He had a daughter, with his first wife Alice Maud Talbot, called Minnie Ada Bown, b.1895 (possibly too late and wrong middle name). My mother Ruby was born to his second wife, Elizabeth Esther Smith. She is now 96 and would dearly love to find a photograph of her father, a plasterer, who died away from home in Bridgnorth, when she was nine. They all seemed to come from the Lewisham, Lambeth area of London.
I would also like to find Arthur William's grave, so she can say goodbye properly, and wonder whether he was brought back to London.

Re: Bowns of Somerset

bcjacques — 2012-04-22 19:16:50Z

I am very sorry I wish I could help.

Re: Bowns of Somerset

JChidlow7710 — 2012-04-21 22:35:42Z

William and Mary Bown of Somerton had the following children baptised there:
William 2 Sep 1703
Joshua 3 Oct 1705
Samuel 13 May 1708 m. Elizabeth Trayne
Robert 29 Jun 1710
Thomas 10 Jul 1712
Sarah 2 Feb 1715/16
Mary 16 Aug 1719, buried 5 Nov 1719

Any information about any of these people would be appreciated.

Re: Bown of Bradford and Keighley Yorkshire.

bcjacques — 2012-02-03 19:23:34Z

The only information I have for the Bown's from England is below. I would dearly like to find someone who can add more information.
I hope this helps.

Betty

Chesterfield-Derbyshire-England
21st June 1824

Sir
Understanding that you are the Son of Mr. Wm. Bown who formerly went
from Sheffield near this place and was the eldest Brother of W. John Bown late of Bradford in Yorkshire who died at that place on 3rd February 1823 we beg to advise you upon the subject of the affairs of the letter and give you as correct a detail of as we are able.

John Bown died intestate leaving a widow but no children or grandchildren.
He also left Twenty Two Nephews and Nieces (the children of his deceased brothers James, Adam and Isaac and sister Catherine who married a person of the name
Hardwick) and likewise left a sister Mrs. Ann Thompson who is now living in this town. By the Law of England the real estate of John Bown has descended to his Heir at law (who is your Father, if living, or his eldest Son, if dead) and the personal estate to the widow and next of kin in the following proportions - namely - three-fourths (that is to say, one half under the Statute of Distribution and one half of the ?? ?full under the custom of the Province of York with which Province John Bown died) will belong to the widow and the remaining one fourth to the next of kin who are the nephews and nieces and sister above ?? /? and the children of William Bown (your father) in case he is dead leaving more than one.

In September last Adam Bown (the eldest son of the late James Bown and who was as we supposed for reason hereafter stated the Heir at law of the late John Bown) and Edward Hardwick, the son of Catherine, applied to us and requested our professional assistance in the affairs of John Bown and to ascertain if any thing was producible to the Heir or next of kin. After three journies to Bradford (a distance of more than 50 miles) and much correspondence with a Mr. Mowson the surviving partner of John Bown and also with a Mr. Beldon who was employed for the widow an arrangement was made, but no money has been paid nor any final case effected. John Bown was at his death entitled to one half of a Real Estate consisting of an Iron Foundry and sundry Buildings at Bradford and also some Personal Estate. The Real Estate was mortgaged to nearly its value and there were many debts owing by John Bown at his death. After a full investigation of the affairs as well regarding the real as the Personal Estate it was concluded between Adam Bown and Mr. Mowson that the latter should give to the former in satisfaction his right as Heir at Law in the half part of the above Real Estate of John Bown 160 pounds to be paid on 20th January next upon executing a proper Conveyance to Mowson of the Estate and it was likewise agreed between Adam Bown and the widow that 250 pounds - should be accepted by the next of kin in satisfaction of their one fourth part of the residue of the Personal Estate of John Bown to be paid in September next. By this arrangement the 160 pounds would ?? ?? ?? ?? to Adam Bown ?? ?? same having been produced from the ?? ?? ?? ?? 50 pounds would belong to the next of kin - the children of each of William Bown taking the same share as their parents would have done ?? ?? ?? ?? be divided equally between them and Ann Thompson will of ?? ?? ?? ?? share as any of her brothers would have done - we saw ?? ?? ?? ?? of the Nephews and Nieces on Saturday last and they ?? ?? ?? ?? accede to the arrangement as to the personal Estate.

If any litigation was to take place between the Heir and the Widow possibly all of the personal estate (as well the tree fourths retained by the Widow as the one fourth belonging to the next of kin) might be decreed to be applied in liquidation of the Mortgage Dept on the Real Estate by which proceeding the Widow would be left Destitute of the means of subsistence and a larger surplus might thereby be produced to the Heir from the Real Estate, but ?? ?? ?? of the heavy and unavoidable expense which would be incurred as well as leaving the Widow Penniless and a risk as to the result Adam Bown thought it best to wind up the affairs with as little expence as possible, and therefore made the arrangement before stated - Thereby allowing the Widow a comfortable maintenance and his Aunt Thompson and Cousins a share with him of the Personal Estate - Indeed in so small a Property we could not advise litigation, the mode of proceeding being tedious and very expensive, and Adam Bown was not inclined to have any unpleasantness with the Widow.

Adam Bown has taken great trouble in the business and some expence (perhaps to the amount of 25 or 30 pounds) and has been incurred but in consequence of the Widow B. Mr. Beldon has ?? manifested every disposition to do what was proper upon the subject. Some expence has been saved.

In consequence of your Father and his Children not being heard of by any of your relations here as we were informed for Ten or Eleven Years it was presumed they were dead. This presumption the Law of England will warrant in all legal Proceedings where Parties of what are abroad, having been unheard of for seven years. This was the reason for believing Adam Bown to be the Heir.

Since the above agreements were made the Widow of John Bown has produced a letter purporting to come from you dated the 24th August 1822 and addressed to your late Uncle and in consequence of which some communication with you is made necessary.

These are the facts which we have thought best under the direction of Adam Bown to lay before you and from ?? residue ?? ?? ?? very distant from home the means of corresponding with you extremely difficult and much more occupied in the passage of letters to and from North America we have request the favor of your final determination upon the subject at your first convenience in giving which you will be pleased to be full clear and explicit.
As the Property is small perhaps it will not be thought worthy the notice of your Father or his Children, if he be dead and the shares, although small, will be to some of the Parties here be found very acceptable. And in case you conclude to forego a claim to the Property and allow the Proceeds to go in the manner and according to the arrangements before stated we shall have to trouble you to execute a form of Release to that effect which we will prepare and forward to you for that purpose on having your previous instructions. But on the other hand if your Father or his children decide to accept what may belong to him it will be necessary for him or his ?? ?? ??, to execute a Power of Attorney authorizing some Person ?? ?? ?? in the affairs and transmit the Proceeds ?? ?? ?? deducting expences etc. or if you prefer it in order to cl?? ?? ?? Bown would give your Father if living, or his Heir and ?? ?? be dead, a sum of money for
the Real and Personal Estates, you
??ciency to indemnify Adam Bown
??mids and other casual charges wh??
of the businefs - indeed at once he?
??bary in the affairs of John Bown
?riage of his Brother William - Tho
dead, - the names, ages, places of
the names, residences and profes??
??is Daughters if any, as no marr??
??tly of such of the children, if any, we
??oring us with these Particulars w??

in order ??? no delay ??pediment may exist for
Your Cousin Adam Bown desires his best regards
wishes for the health of your Father and his Family -
Requesting your early reply on his behalf

We are

Bown of Bradford and Keighley Yorkshire.

helkatali — 2012-01-28 13:31:41Z

Hi
I'm trying to trace family of my grandmother Clara Bown born Bradford 1891 who married Henry Longden. Her parents were Frances (? b Linton, Herefordshire)and George Bown. Her siblings Amy Ethel b 1893; William Alfred b 1886; Laura Jessie b 1884; Percy Howard b 1882.

I have some information I'll be happy to share, but anything you can provide would be gratefully received. :0)

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

simonsheppard1 — 2012-01-22 18:47:04Z

Many thanks for replying. I know very little about Amy other than she was known in Sydney for being a bit ahead of her time and rode horses fully seated rather than side saddle. I have heard that she was known to the locals as Mad Amy!

I know that her first child was born in Nova Scotia but that the family moved to London before Cissie Nichols was born circa 1879.

I don't know if Amy was divorced or died before Charles re- married and cannor find anything so far to confirm but someone out there may know!

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

bcjacques — 2012-01-19 21:05:25Z

I'm sorry the only information I have on Amy Caroline is what you have. I did get her husbands name from you posting and found their children (thank you). But beyond that I have not found anything else.
Betty

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

simonsheppard1 — 2012-01-17 22:56:40Z

My great great grandmother was Amy Caroline Bown born 1855 in Sydney, Cape Breton. She married Charles Henry Nichols in St George's Church, Cape Breton on 9 Feb 1875. Amy moved with her new husband to London, England.

Charles Henry re-married in 1897 and I am looking for any information on what happened to Amy.

Please see my Sheppard family tree for details of the Bown family I have been able to find.

Many thanks

Simon

Re: Albert Arthur Bown

michelduprat — 2012-01-17 00:08:26Z

I am researching the Bown/Hooper family tree and may have information for you relating to Ellen SMITH & Harry Edward BOWN, Lawrence BOWN & Edith Bella HOOPER etc.

Let me know if you are still looking... you can reply to me at mp.soljavaduprat @ gmail.com or via ancestry.com

Please ignore my other post (technical glitch created a 2nd FREE account)...

Re: Albert Arthur Bown

mp_soljavaduprat — 2012-01-16 23:32:48Z

Hi, I may have info relating to Harry Edward Bown & Ellen Smith if you are still looking... Please let me know...

Re: Looking for info on Chancey (sp?) Bown (born abt. 1860)

3monkies — 2012-01-11 03:34:50Z

That makes much more sense. Thanks! I was beginning to think Daniel & Mary were a Jacob & Rachel type late starter! :)

Re: Looking for info on Chancey (sp?) Bown (born abt. 1860)

PhatElvis — 2012-01-11 02:58:19Z

The 1870 Federal Census (Williamsburg Twp, Clermont, Ohio) shows Chance Bown is the son of Joseph and Amanda (Haskell) Bown. My records show Daniel Bown is Joseph Bown's father.

Re: Looking for info on Chancey (sp?) Bown (born abt. 1860)

3monkies — 2012-01-10 21:01:52Z

By hunting through many census records, I now believe Chancey's father was Daniel Bown, born 1791 in New Jersey. He was married to Mary Saylor, bn.1799 in 1820 in Virginia. Not sure when they moved to Ohio, but in their 50s they are living with their son according to the census.

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

MLBown717 — 2011-12-27 01:28:12Z

We are in the same boat.My Charles Edward parents are listed as William Lewis Bown and Mary Roberts.I gave up as I have found nothing on those in Canada,just the rest of the family in Mass.Down to my father.I have seen alot on Charles Augustus during my research.look under the "SEARCH PUBLIC MEMBER TREES"You will find him there.

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

LeoCon89 — 2011-12-20 18:26:35Z

In that light, I am looking for information on Charles Augustus Bown JR or SR. The records seem incomplete and though there are quite a few Bowns on Cape Breton, I cannot seem to make a connection with Charles Sr. (b. 1834) with anyone else.

Charles A. Bown (1834-1915)

LeoCon89 — 2011-12-18 20:31:51Z

I am trying to link Charles A. Bown Sr.(G-G Grandfather) to someone, but not having much luck. Not been able to find any birth records. He was married to Sarah Young, who does have a lot of information. He lived in the Sydney Mines area. Hoping there are relatives out there who read this stuff.

Bown in London originated Christchurch Hampshire

jessicared2 — 2011-09-01 17:28:44Z

I have a line of Bown family who seem to have originated in Christchurch Hampshire

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

vickin050 — 2011-07-31 22:37:39Z

Hi Barb, saw your post because I was looking for Hurleston genealogy. How are you. Go ahead and contact me. My email is vickin050@gmail.com.

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

MLBown717 — 2011-07-14 02:08:57Z

I am sorry to say that so far I have not found an Ann in my line.I have been unable to make much progress with some of the females.If I should find one I will let you know.-M.Bown

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

bcjacques — 2011-07-11 17:52:54Z

Hi
I have checked my Ann's and find none that would match your Ann. However, William Bown Sr had 2 sons - William Jr, George Frederick. My line follws William Jr. I have not done a lot of research on George but do know that he married Magdaline Haire in Boston in 1803. They had 15 children and most of the info I have found show Newfoundland as where they might have landed. I have a letter received from England. If you would like a copy of this letter let me know. Hope this helps a little bit.
Betty Jacques (rjacques8623@charter.net)

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

bobpeckford — 2011-07-06 12:14:51Z

Hi
I have just found an old posting of yours and am hoping this message will reach you.

I’m trying to trace my great-great grandmother – Ann Bown (born circa 1835) who married my g-g-grandfather Joseph Peckford (born circa 1830) at Change Islands, Newfoundland. Ann and Joseph were married on
3 October 1855 by Rev WA Elder Their several children and subsequent generations remained on Change Islands. I know a good deal about the Peckford line but nothing at all about Ann Bown.

The Peckford family and many others on Change islands originated from Dorset, England and it seems likely that the Bown family might also have gone to Newfoundland from Dorset or neighbouring counties of Somerset or Hampshire

Any information would be gratefully received.
Many thanks
Bob Peckford
Carlisle, England

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

MLBown717 — 2011-05-24 23:27:53Z

I have a William Lewis Bown,married to a Mary Ann Roberts.

Re: Bown coat of arms

bcjacques — 2011-05-19 20:22:29Z

I have a picture but can't seem to attach it. If this helps let me know how I can get a picture to you, if you have not already received one.

HISTORIOGRAPHY

The Bown Coat of Arms illustrated above was drawn by an heraldic artist from information officially recorded in ancient heraldic archives. Documentation for the Bown Coat of Arms design can be found in Burke's General Armory.. Heraldic artists of old developed their own unique language to describe an individual Coat of Arms. In their language, the Arms (shield) is as follows:
"Az, on a cross or, a rose gu, stalked and leaved vert."
When translated the Arms description is:
"Blue; on a gold cross, a red rose, stalk and leaves green."
Above the shield and helmet is the Crest which is described as:
"A hand holding an inescutcheon charged with a rose."
A translation of the Crest description is:
"A hand holding a small shield charged with a rose."
Family mottos are believed to have originated as battle cries in medieval times.
A Motto was not recorded with the Bown Coat of Arms.

Individual surnames originated for the purpose of more specific identification. The four primary sources for second names were: occupation, location, father's name and person characteristics. The surname Bown appears to be patronymical in origin, and is believed to be associated with the English, meaning, "descendant of Bown." Different spellings of the same original surname are a common occurrence. Dictionaries of surname indicate probable spelling variations. The most prominent variations of Bown are Bowne, Boon, Boone.

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

bcjacques — 2011-05-19 20:11:12Z

I have many Williams in my family but not anyone married to and Andrews. Could you send dates because I have 2 with out spouses. All from Cape Breton

Betty

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

DonnaLindsayAllen — 2011-05-18 21:51:26Z

I am looking for William Bown who married Eliza Andrews and had a daughter Charlotte all from cape breton

Re: John Young Bown

JChidlow7710 — 2011-05-10 13:16:03Z

The announcement you found would be for the birth of Maud Alice Bown, whose name I left out by accident. She died at the age of 16. Where would I find the announcement? Are you connected with this family?

Re: John Young Bown

Ken_Sch — 2011-05-10 02:16:22Z

I came across a birth notice for a daughter born on January 24, 1865. Could this be Margaret or was this a child who died in infancy?

Re: Looking for info on Chancey (sp?) Bown (born abt. 1860)

dstidham153 — 2011-05-05 00:50:57Z

This is what I have so far. My Grandfather was Nelson Ray Bown.
I cannot find out who Chancie Bowns father was.

Chancie Bown
Home in 1930: Fairfield, Butler, Ohio
View Map
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head of House: Father
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harvey Bown 41
Maggie Bown 37
Raymond Bown 17
John Bown 14
Harry Bown 9
Jurieta Bown 4
Maragret Bown 1 9/12
Chancie Bown 70

Re: Bown coat of arms

fairyfangs — 2011-04-28 15:04:31Z

I really need to get the coat of arms for the Bown family

Re: Bowns of Somerset

JChidlow7710 — 2011-04-06 18:43:31Z

The family I listed had 2 sons, William and Samuel. Of William's family, I have found nothing. Samuel had just one son whose children came to Canada with their mother in the early 1850s.

If we had records that connected in time, we could find out if there is a connection. I have not yet found any connection to the Bowns of Gloucestershire, though it seems likely enough.

Re: Bowns of Somerset

jcm02129 — 2011-04-06 12:03:57Z

My grandmother was Edith Ann Bown who was born in about 1880 in Marshfield, Glos. Her parents were John and Hester Bown. She had a brother, Edward, who was killed in 1917. We know very little more about this side of the family and would love to know more.
Janet Miller

Bowns of Somerset

JChidlow7710 — 2011-03-17 18:24:32Z

Samuel Bown and his wife Elizabeth Trayne had the following family:
Mary Bown baptised 1747 Somerton m. 1780 Richard Hasell
William Bown baptised 1747 Somerton
Keturah Bown baptised 1753 Somerton lived Bristol 1775
Betty Bown baptised 1754 Somerton m. 1757 George Feaver
Samuel Bown baptised 1760 Somerton m. Susannah Barrett
Ann Bown b. c1761 m. 1783 Joseph Chaplin l. Chew Magna
Martha Bown m. 1796 Samuel Reynolds

I'd like to share with anyone researching any of this family.

Re: Bowns in London

dhlbrown — 2011-03-15 16:12:21Z

Hi. I've got an Elizabeth Bown who married John Widdows/Widows in St Saviour's, Southwark, in 1795.
Does this relate to anyone else's Bowns?
Dianne

Possible descendant.

jakexboxlivegs — 2011-01-13 03:07:39Z

Hi, I'm Jacob Bown from Southern Alabama. I'm a little curious about my family history. I'm not sure if all these people are related to me.

If someone can find a family tree that goes to 1996 and has Jacob Bown on the year 1996, then I'd be appreciative.

Re: Bown family - Devon

candeev — 2010-10-24 00:44:34Z

The parents of these children are James Bown and Kitty Jory.

Re: Elizabeth Bown and Nicholas Martin of Nova Scotia

willethe — 2010-10-09 18:38:02Z

Did you get the info I sent yesterday regarding Elizabeth Bown Martin WEISCHMAN's dod and other details?
She was Henry Vinson Bown's daughter?
What dob do you have for her?
She died in Seattle, King County, Washington. Her remains were never ever claimed yet she had lived as a widow of Rudolph Weischman, with her daughter "Sadie" for a while.
She has LIVING family members. They knew nothing of her remarriage, her death nor do they have seem to have plans to obtain her remains from a storage locker from LakeView Cemetery in Seattle to bury her. She cannot be buried in the Martin Plot in Lake View as she was divorced. Which is, of course ridiculous. There IS room for her there.
Her son, Nicholas Jr. died before she did. I have photos of both he and Sadie.
clairel5@comcast.net
please contact me at this address

Re: Elizabeth Bown and Nicholas Martin of Nova Scotia

willethe — 2010-10-09 00:16:46Z

I'm going to TRY to spell her husband's name...this is so odd because I don't USE this email address and just happened to get a new system and was checking to see if anything was still in it.
His name was Rudolph Weischman and he was a soldier. They were married or at least were listed as married and living in Walla Walla, WA. There were indian uprisings...and that's all I can figure that any army activity was at that time in that area.

When she died, she was living with her daughter Sarah which makes it even MORE odd that her body was never claimed. When I say she was living with her, perhaps that's wrong, but she is seen on I think the 1910 census living with her daughter and is a "widow." So her husband had died.
Sadie as Sarah was known lived a long time. NH Jr died before his mother and I'm winging it here but I'll get back to you, another son married, had a daughter and has LIVING FAMILY members who I have met. Nice people but I'm the one who discovered the mystery about Elizabeth Annette because, NH married MY Greatgrandmother in l907. He and Elizabeth had been friends with my great grandparents in Renton, WA.

So, sadly I do not know if any of Elizabeth's family was even notified that she had died! I don't know if her children kept in contact with her family in NS.

NH Martin died in about 1927 and is buried in LakeView Cemetery which is the wonderful pioneer cemetery in Seattle. His children are there too. My family referred to him as "Mr. Martin" so you can see that didn't sit well with them that the he married into the family. And MY great grandmother was also an Elizabeth who went by Lizzie.
They were married 7 years after my great grandfather died in 1900. They went to Victoria, BC and married there in Aug of 1907. Must have suited both of them. Lizzie was from England and NH of course was Canadian. So if you look in the 1910 census record for WA in Renton or King County, you should see NH and Lizzie MARTIN.

While outraged that Elizabeth Bown Martin Weischman was not buried, I don't think her family has plans to actually bury her which is very sad I think. She too is in a locker of some kind along with all those poor other people who were cremated yet never buried. I doubt very very much that ANYONE who is anyone and that is a prestigous cemetery believe me, knows that there are l500 people in undisclosed locations in LOCKERS who have yet to be buried or marked.
Who goes to a cemetery and asks "who have you not buried?"
My whole family is buried there. They were a pioneering and pretty well to do family. Next time I go there, I'm sure I'll make a comment which won't sit well, but still, something needs to be said OR printed in our newspaper.
Before Lizzie and NH Martin married, she was Lizzie Peace Black Williams. Her husband James Williams was also from England. He and NH started the Masonic Lodge in Renton altho the lodge's records have been lost. It was named St. Andrews and I believe that is NS's patron saint. Nice touch.
I have photos of NH.

clairel5@comcast.net

Re: Elizabeth Bown and Nicholas Martin of Nova Scotia

leagull — 2010-10-08 23:49:00Z

Yes, very sad. Can you tell us her name when she remarried and died? Did she live in WA when she died?

Maybe Elizabeth was estranged from her family, or maybe none of them were able to make the trip from NS to claim her body in WA if that is where she was. At least five of her sisters & brothers were alive in 1913.

Re: Elizabeth Bown and Nicholas Martin of Nova Scotia

willethe — 2010-10-08 23:11:50Z

Sorry, just found your question.
Actually she remarried! And she died in 1913 BUT until I started poking around, no one knew that NO ONE ever claimed her body at the funeral home and it was sent to a cemetery but still remains unburied but was cremated.
Horrible to find her on a list of 1500 people unburied.

Re: Elizabeth Bown and Nicholas Martin of Nova Scotia

bcjacques — 2010-10-06 22:01:12Z

Glad I could help.....but what happened to Elizabeth after the divorce from Nicholas Martin.

Betty

Re: Elizabeth Bown and Nicholas Martin of Nova Scotia

leagull — 2010-10-06 18:25:50Z

Thanks Betty. I appreciate the additional info. Caroline Louisa [Louise] Bown was my G-grandmother. She married Robert Jacob Ingraham and one of their 10 children was my grandfather Albert Dickson Ingraham.

Judy

Re: Elizabeth Bown and Nicholas Martin of Nova Scotia

bcjacques — 2010-10-06 14:56:56Z

My line decends through Thomas Samuel, so I guess we would be cousins.
Regarding Henry Vinson 1811-1892, Maria Jane Leonard 1809-1895 I have 8 children listed.
Elizabeth Annette 1836-1914
Anne Maria 1838-1934
Willaim Henry 1840-
Margaret Susan 1842-
Caroline Louisa 1844- 1936
Edward Thomas 1846-1922
Hector George 1843-1936
Delia Amelia 1852-1917

Betty Jacques

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

bcjacques — 2010-10-06 14:29:31Z

To Mary Louise Bown, I am sorry to say that I have 8 Charles's in my genealogy line from Nova Scotia but not Charles Edward.

Betty Jacques

Re: Bown family of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 1750's - 1900's

MLBown717 — 2010-10-06 03:30:54Z

I have been looking for anyone connected to my Charles Edward Bown.He is from cape breton N.S.He is my great,great,great,grandfather Married to Eliza J. Frackelton.He was born Sept28,1843? died in massacheuttes 1912 Sons Charles,Lewis andVincent. One daughter eliza ellenSo if this sounds correct to you than I am Related to you.Mary louise bown