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Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2012-04-09 16:12:05Z

Here belatedly is a brief summary of what I discovered about my branch of the Branders in Ponta Delgada, Azores.

I found the family plot for William Brander who died there in 1854 also the following children of him and his Anna (nee Hoyes):
John - born in 1829 and died in 1832
Thomas born and died in 1843 aged 2 days
Margaret - born in 1836 and died in 1848
William born 1835 and died in 1854

His remaining children were:

James born in PD in 1827 and died in Elgin in 1862
Anna Brander born in PD in 1833 and died in London in 1909
John born in 1838 returned to Scotland date of death unknown to date.

Also in the churchyard was a grave for Jane Brander marked as Spinster but I have not yet linked her to the family.

If anyone on the thread has any additional info please contact me.

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2012-03-27 17:52:30Z

Hi
Thank you for the info. Still searching for my John dob circa 1857 in the Azores. Will be in touch if and when I find any useful information in Elgin.

Jennifer

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

janlaury — 2012-03-26 22:10:34Z

Hi

I've found something which may be of interest. There is a John Brander who married Elizabeth Taylor April 12 1783 in the parish of Bellie which is next door to Duffus. They had several children and she is referred to as Elizabeth or Betty or Bettrich which is not a million miles from Beatrix.

Enjoy your trip to Elgin.

Jan

Brander - Moray, Scotland

PaulRose42 — 2012-02-20 22:36:24Z

I am searching for information on my 4x great grandmother, Ann. Up until recently I was under the impression that her maiden name was "Brandon", but I am beginning to think it was actually Brander.

I don't have any information about her other than she would have been born around 1775 in Scotland and she married James Rose probably around 1798. They may have had four children - David Rose (1798), Alexander Rose (1800), Ann Baillie Rose (1802) and William Rose (1805). I suspect Ann may have died shortly after William was born. My 3x great grandfather, William stated that he came from Eglin, Moray, Scotland, so I suspect this is where the family resided.

Can anyone shed some light on this mystery? I would love to find out more about Ann and her family.

Caroline Rose

Re: Do you know of a Charles Arthur Brander?

w3nd1e — 2012-02-19 20:25:37Z

Hi, a few years ago I met Charles Arthur Brander's half sister, Lenore from John Gottleib Brander second wife. She gave me a few leads to go on. My husband is Charles Arthur's grandson. Not sure if you have John and Mary's other siblings, if not I can tell you more about them to. John Jacob(Johann Jakob) Brander Born April 25 1860 in Muenchenstein,Basel,Switzerland. His Father was also called Johann Jakob Brander Born Oct 12 1828 in Kappel,Switz. Died Mar 19 1903 in Basel,Switz.
John Jacob's Mother was Verena Matter Born Oct 30 1832 in Kappel,Switz. Died Sept 10 1902 in Basel,Switz.
John J was one of five children. John J married Marie Louise
Fongollaz on Oct 19 1886 in Muenchestein,Basel,Switz. If you would like more information about the family please feel free to email me at wjc2366@gmail.com it's always goood to find more cousins, happy hunting. Wendy.

Re: Branders in Pennsylvania

patrickhonan1 — 2012-02-19 19:09:36Z

Sorry, I mention John C. as a son, that was supposed to be Charles J. I had the names reversed on my research.

Re: Branders in Pennsylvania

patrickhonan1 — 2012-02-19 19:02:27Z

I'm currently doing research on the Brander's, I come from Mary Brander's line, which I believe would be your father's sister. I got as far back John Jacob Brander (1860 - 1935) and his wife Caroline (1866 - 1920) who were the first Brander's in the U.S. and came from Switzerland. They had 5 kids according to census information: Mary, John C., John G., Ledia, and Harry. Although I have extensive information on Mary (my Great Grandmother) I don't have much on the other members of the family. I am assuming one of the John's was your father?

I have someone who says they have Brander information going back quite a few generations in Switzerland, I'm waiting to hear back from them.

Re: Do you know of a Charles Arthur Brander?

patrickhonan1 — 2012-02-19 17:44:54Z

If Charles father was John G. Brander, then John G. was the brother of my Great Grandmother Mary Brander, which is the line I come from. I have that both John G. and Mary Brander's parents were John Jacob Brander and Caroline. They both came from Switzerland and lived in present day Jim Thorpe, but I hit a dead end after that. Mary Brander went on to marry Michael Patrick O'Dwyer, although he adopted the last name Woods when he came to the US.

Re: Do you know of a Charles Arthur Brander?

w3nd1e — 2012-02-19 10:10:36Z

can you tell me which branch your from as I do have a lot more info but would be easier if I know how you are related to Charles.

Re: Do you know of a Charles Arthur Brander?

patrickhonan1 — 2012-02-19 06:44:56Z

Hi, I am also looking for information on the Branders. I was able to get back to my Great Great Grandfather John Jacob Brander (b. 1861) and his wife Caroline (who may also go by Maria Fonjollaz) who came here from Switzerland. I cannot locate any information beyond them, and hopefully you can help. Thanks :)

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2012-02-13 16:39:38Z

Hi Rol

I do have some info for you but it is a little too lengthy to post here. Can you send me your email and I will send it to you.

Jennifer

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

janlaury — 2012-02-12 19:25:51Z

Thanks Jennifer. I'll certainly be interested if you find anything on your trip to Elgin.

Archibald Dunbar Taylor was christened in January 1793. His godfather Sir Archibald Dunbar of Northfield has to be the one born in 1772 and who died in 1842. His father, Sir Alexander Dunbar, died in 1791 and his grandfather, Sir Archibald Dunbar, died in 1769.

Best regards

Jan

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

rol12 — 2012-02-12 17:58:13Z

Hi Jennifer,

It is good to see you posting into your thread again!

As Jan knows, the marriage of Beatrix Brander and Jo[hn?] Taylor is what first attracted my gaze to the Branders too. Beatrix is puzzlingly invisible in the records.

But back, for now, to the Iberian connections that were the focus of your original enquiry. In response to my posts in the summer of 2010, you (tantalisingly!) wrote this -- your last post here, dated 17 June 2010:

"Hi Rol

Thank you so much for your reply as you speculated I do have more information on the Azores Branders. My neighbour having visited there recently and coming back with invaluable info from the records office mostly concerning William. I hope to visit there later this year. I shall be away for the next two weeks but will send more details in due course. Will digest your info whilst I am away.

Jennifer"

I am hoping that you may now have some time to share with us the headlines from that "invaluable info from the records office" that your neighbour found in the Azores about the Branders there. If so, that would be much appreciated; and it would also be interesting to hear whether any fresh thoughts resulted from that "digestion" you planned (plus news of progress -- if any -- made in the meantime via other sources).

Rol

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2012-02-12 16:13:52Z

I don't think I have very much information which differs from yours. On my records I have noted that Helen Dunbar the 2nd wife of James Brander of Pitgaveny (1732-1780) was the sister of Sir Archibald Dunbar of Northfield. But as with the Branders the christian names are often repeated through the generations and this maybe an earlier Archibald.
I only have the names of the children of James B's first wife. On my genealogical websites I can find no trace of a Beatrix or similar. I am going up to Elgin in April and if I find anything of interest I will let you know.

Jennifer

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

janlaury — 2012-02-09 12:50:01Z

Hi

Thanks for replying. It's a bit complicated as the christening record was a late entry and the name Beatrix might be an error. However Sir Archibald Dunbar was present at the christening and family records state that he was the godfather. My best guess is that Beatrix was a daughter of James Brander of Pitgaveny by his second wife Helen Dunbar. The same family records state that Archibald Dunbar Taylor's mother was "a Miss Dunbar, niece of Sir Archibald Dunbar Bt., his godfather". This is not possible but she could have been the niece of Sir Alexander Dunbar, the father of Sir Archibald. Burke’s Genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry of Great Britain & Ireland published in 1879 states that James Brander’s second wife was “a daughter of Dunbar, of Northfield, Bart.”

Regards

Jan Laury

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2012-02-08 16:01:41Z

Hi
I'm sorry I have been so long in replying - my research has
been on hold recently. The Branders you mention (Sir Archibald Dunbar and Lady Mary) are names I am familiar with but they are not on my particular side of the tree. I do not have a record of Beatrix Brander who were her parents? If I can help with any queries you may have please let me know although my information for this particular side of the Branders is a little sketchy.

Regards Jennifer

Re: JANE BRANDER

gbrander — 2012-01-09 13:17:47Z

Hi David
No I am not related to this Brander line but I came across Jane Brander born 1859 when I was investigating another Jane Brander who was born out of wedlock to a Helen Thomson and James Brander, blacksmith at Wardleys, Deskford. She was known as the "blacksmith's daughter" on subsequent census returns but lived with her mother's folks. At one time I confused her with your Jane Brander.
My only record of children of Jane and James Jamieson is from the 1881 census where the couple are at Castle Lane, Fraserburgh with son, James George age 3 and daughter Sarah Elizabeth age 1. This finally convinced me that this was a different Jane Brander because she is born at Turriff and not in Banffshire.
It is interesting to note that some of their children had the middle name of Black. Agnes Anne Black was the daughter of Elizabeth Brander (Jane's mother) and George Black so Agnes Anne Black Jamieson was named after Jane's half sister.
George

Re: JANE BRANDER

davidhayhurst746 — 2012-01-09 11:33:38Z

Hi George

i have the following siblings for Sophia, Mary Jane 1881-Isabella 1884-Christina 1886-John Alexander 1890-Agnes Anne Black 1892-David 1894-Henry Black-1897-George 1899.
I do not have further info on them like marriages or deaths.
Are you related to this branch of the Brander line.
My Aunt that was able to give me info sadly passed away in 2008 so i have not got anyone in the family to ask now.
Thanks
David

Re: JANE BRANDER

gbrander — 2012-01-09 10:48:59Z

You are probably aware that Sophia had older siblings, James George born about 1878 and Sarah Elzabeth born about 1880. Sarah was named after her grandmother Sarah.

James Jamieson the father was born in Lomnay, Aberdeenshire in 1854
George

Re: JANE BRANDER

davidhayhurst746 — 2012-01-09 10:24:55Z

thank you very much for the information Jane Brander was my
Great Grandmother there daughter Sophia was my Grand mother
she died at the age of 100 years old in Australia

David

Re: JANE BRANDER

gbrander — 2012-01-08 17:44:25Z

Jane or Jean Ritchie or Brander was born in Turriff, Aberdeenshire in 1859. Father was John Ritchie and mother Elizabeth Brander. He parents were not married nor did they marry. Elizabeth Brander went on to marry George Black in Banff, Banffshire in 1867. Jane Brander married James Jamieson at Macduff, Banffshire in 1877. He was from Fraserburgh and I believe that they went to live in Fraserburgh. You will be able to track them down in the various census returns, both Jane and her mother. You can also get copies of the birth, marriage and death certificates of all the above on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for a modest outlay. George Brander

Re: JANE BRANDER

davidhayhurst746 — 2012-01-07 10:21:15Z

thanks will take a look at that site
David

Re: JANE BRANDER

75daisies — 2012-01-06 19:36:31Z

I have two Jane Branders in my tree but unfortunately not the right dates.

I found a lot of Brander information on www.familysearch.org

Hope that helps you.
Jill

Branders in Pennsylvania

branderj1 — 2011-12-01 15:52:14Z

Hello, my name is John Brander. My father's family is from Jim Thorpe (Mauch Chunc) Pennsylvania. His name was John, as well as my Grandfathers. Beyond that, I have no other information. Any info would be appreciated.

Branders in Canada

MellowYello — 2011-10-21 17:09:58Z

I am researching my Brander family and two of my great uncles emigrated to Canada. One Frank Willoughby Brander died on Victoria Island, British Columbia in 1959. I do not know if he had any family out there. The other great uncle emigrated to Canada he was Arthur Peel Brander and his wife was Lily (nee Salmon) they had one son Stanley Willoughby Brander who was born in the UK in 1923. I do not know if they returned to UK or remained in Canada. Any info would be very much appreciated.

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

janlaury — 2011-10-21 16:28:25Z

Hi

I've just come across this thread. My interest is in Beatrix Brander who married Jo. Taylor probably arouund 1790. They had a son Archibald Dunbar Taylor who was christened at Duffus on April 11 1793. His godfather was Sir Archibald Dunbar whose second wife was Mary Brander, daughter of John Brander of Pitgaveny.

Do any of these names ring a bell with you? I would appreciate any help with the Branders.

Best regards

Jan Laury

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

karenhnatyshin — 2010-10-20 01:15:29Z

Hi Caroline,
Thanks so much for the info. Took my mom Dorothy down to Montreal over the weekend and did the whole tour of the hood etc....

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

carolinedonegan_1 — 2010-10-15 13:18:32Z

Hi Karen,

My mother was able to find Alexandre Joly's WW1 paper which I have attached. Also sending a photo we have.

Caroline

Re: Brander Family from Austria/Poland

psu0308 — 2010-09-11 00:38:30Z

I wish I could confirm your names but unfortunately I have been unable to track back to the "old" country and have not been able to find additional names. The region sounds possible and the name "Jacob Brander" is certainy in my family.

I will keep your email on file and if I ever get more info, especially if it contains the Felixbrod or Gerber names, I will be sure to contact you.

Please let me know if you find additional info.

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

karenhnatyshin — 2010-08-26 14:26:12Z

Thanks Jim, Do you know if Jonh Baird,the member of parliament is also related to the Baird family. My mother insists he looks like her family...,but has no concrete evidence of this.Karen

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

bairdjim55 — 2010-08-26 14:14:48Z

Hi Karen- My GG GF James Baird was born in Edinburgh on Dec 15,1825 and emmigrated to Mtl sometime between 1841 (his family shows up in the 1841 Edinburgh census) and 1853 when he married his first wife in Mtl. Margaret Brander (or Brandner) as my uncle always asserted, was a Scot from Aberdeen, the daughter of David Brandner and Ellen McPherson. They married in 1872 and had several children, Caroline, Margaret, Arthur, William, James (my gf) and Maud. Margaret died in 1890 at aged 47. and is buried in the Baird family plot in Montreal (Mount Royal cemetery) James died in 1899 and is in that plot also. James had several children- Margaret, Lillian, Norma, Arthur James, Ronald (my father) and Bruce. They are all dead now. Of course there are a bunch of desendants from those children, now living in Texas, Thailand, Nova Scotia, Ohio, Toronto area, Winnipeg, Sudbury.

Very nice to connect with relatives , no matter how distant. I have lots of dates etc if you want to flesh out any of this data. There are other relatives from james Bairds first two marriages in Montreal but I havent been able to find any of those relatives. I am heading to Scotland next month to do a little genealogy.

Jim /Baird
Tatamagouche N.S.

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

karenhnatyshin — 2010-08-26 13:41:13Z

Hi Jim, Do you have any info on your family tree? Would be great to add to the tree.Thanks,Karen

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

bairdjim55 — 2010-08-14 01:20:09Z

My grandfather was James Baird, Caroline Bairds younger brother. My name is also James (I go by Jim) and I live in Nova Scotia.

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

bairdjim55 — 2010-08-14 01:18:25Z

Hi, Im the great grandson, of Caroline Bairds father, James. My name is James also and I live in Nova Scotia. I have a brother in Thailand and a sister in Toronto area. Other relatives in Manitoba, Montreal, Sudbury and Texas!!

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

bairdjim55 — 2010-08-14 01:15:19Z

Hi, I'm the great grandson of that james Baird. Margaret was his third wife. He had several children, Margaret, William, James (my grandfather) Caroline, (who married Alexandre Joly) My name is Jim Baird and I live in Nova Scotia. I have lots of dates etc if you are interested.

John Brander part three

edwirvin — 2010-08-02 19:31:30Z

. John Brander, part three
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Rev. John Brander, part three
edwirvin (View posts) Posted: 2 Aug 2010 7:28PM GMT

Classification: Query
Surnames: Brander
This is a copy of the "Inquisition and Escheatment where Rev. Brander's Estate is seized, apparently from the Reverend's nephew also named John? From Deed Book 6, 1778-1780, Bedford county, Virginia.
John Brander. Inquisition on Brander's Estate.
7 October in Ye fourth year of ye Commonwealth; Touching ye title of One Thousand four hundred acres of land ye following slaves Viz. Cloe Micaja Will Booker Bob Guy Rachel Jesse & Fanny the Property of John Brander Clerk Late Deceased & upon the oaths of William Mead, John Callaway, Robert Alexander, Bourne Price, Robert Irvine, Charles Callaway, William Read, Jacob Anderson, Benjamin Rice, Thomas Lumpkin, James Steptoe and Daniel Brown good and Lawfull Men of ye aforesaid. who being Sworn & Charged to Enquire on ye Part of ye Commonwealth what Title ye sd. John Brander, his heirs or Representatives had or now have to ye sd. Land & Slaves Do say upon their Oaths that all that Messuage & Tenement joining Lands of Cary Harrison & Benjamin Harrison Situate Lying and being in ye County aforesaid Containing One Thousand acres was Conveyed on the 16th day of October 1775 to the said John Brander by Archibald Cary that one other Messuage and Tenement Situate Lying and being in ye County afsd. on Both Sides of Little Otter River Containing four hundred acres of land was conveyed to ye sd. John Brander by William Mead January 19th 1773 that the sd. John Brander made his last Will and Testament on ye 27th day of March 1777 and Died by which he devised his whole Estate Real and Personal to his Nephew John Brander on Paying Debts and Legacies which included the said Lands and the sd. Slaves he Died seized of the sd. Lands and Possessed of ye Slaves that the sd. John Brander ye Legatee came within the Description of ye Resolution of ye General Assembly of ye 19th day of December 1776 for enforcing the Statute Staple and that he Left the State accordingly. Winessed the hands and Seals of the Escheator and Jury. Signed: Harry Innes, w. Mead, John Callaway, Robert Alexander, Bourne Price, Robert Irvine, Charles Callaway, William Read, Jacob Anderson, Benjamin Rice, Thomas Lumpkin, James Steptoe, Dan'l Brown. Recorded: 25 October 1779. " this Inquisition was Presented in Court by Harry Innes Escheator for The Commonwealth in this County and Ordered To Be Recorded." End quote.
Edwin's note. Apparently lawyers have been speaking the same gobbledygook for centuries. This is all I have on John Brander. And I only found it as an adjunct to my search for the missing Register and Vestry records of Russell Parish from the 1750's to about 1777? Reverend Brander would have maintained these records. I wonder what happened to them? They would be a rare find indeed for genealogists. Edwin Dean Irvin

Rev. John Brander from Elgin?

edwirvin — 2010-08-02 18:52:25Z

Rev. John Brander part two
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Rev. John Brander part two
edwirvin (View posts) Posted: 2 Aug 2010 6:49PM GMT

Classification: Query
Surnames: Brander
From the "Abstracts of Bedford County, Virginia, Wills, Inventories and Accounts, 1754-1787." transcribed by Joida Whitten and Printed by the Taylor Publishing Company.
Pages 309-310. John Brander Will....of the County of Bedford and the Colony of Virginia. dated 27 March 1777.
Unto my nephew John Brander of the County and Colony aforesaid, all my estate real and personal whom I also appoint Executor together with John Fitz Patrick and William Austin Senr. both of the County of Bedford charging him the said John Brander with the payment of all my just debts also with the following legacies. To my nephew James and Andrew Shaws of the Shire of Elgin in North Britain the sum of 100 pounds sterling. To Elspeth Carmichael my "nice" (sic) and daughter of my sister Margaret the sum of 50 pounds of money aforesaid. To William Carmichael my nephew the like sum of 50 pounds sterling. To my nephew Alexander Shaw Joiner in Edenburgh (sic) the sum of 50 pounds money aforesaid likewise the sum of 5 pounds sterling to be paid to my sister Marjery Brander annually as long as she lives. Witnesses: Guy Smith, James McMurray, William Smith. Proven: 28 July 1778 by oaths of Guy Smith and William Smith. Executor: John Fitz Patrick Gentl. Security: William Mead. Liberty being reserved the other Executor named in the said Will to join in the probate thereof when they see fit.

Re: Brander Family from Austria/Poland

djgans — 2010-07-14 21:42:16Z

Does the name Felixbrod ring a bell? A Nettie Brander whose family is from Dobromil, married an Isador Felixbrod. Based on family evidence, her father's name is Jacob Joshua Brander (from her tombstone), however the mother's name is not given other than a maiden-name "Gerber" (she is Annie Gerber Ganz's niece).

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

rol12 — 2010-06-18 03:37:23Z

And (footnote to the foregoing) there was certainly at least one family member working as a clerk at the London end a few years later: see this link to some testimony of 1790 during a case tried at the Old Bailey.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t17901027-26-pe...

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

rol12 — 2010-06-18 03:05:36Z

Hi Jennifer,

Thanks for the update -- good to know that you are still "on the case" and have found some additional info. It will be fascinating to hear more, once you are back from your trip.

In the meanwhile, you may be interested to see the beautifully reproduced letter dated 1776 that comes up via this link to the archives of a US document and philately dealer (at least for now): www.empirepost.com/XEP/GB/Z-Archives/PTGB-1776-1.htm Explains the mechanics of how the Brander brothers made their pile! The use of the sign-off "James Brander & Co" strongly suggests that by that date the Lisbon business had partners involved, probably including family members.

Presumably the letter itself was sold out of the dealer's stock a year or two back, though the website seems to offer no guidance on that point.

Rol

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2010-06-17 13:30:06Z

Hi Rol

Thank you so much for your reply as you speculated I do have more information on the Azores Branders. My neighbour having visited there recently and coming back with invaluable info from the records office mostly concerning William. I hope to visit there later this year. I shall be away for the next two weeks but will send more details in due course. Will digest your info whilst I am away.

Jennifer

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

rol12 — 2010-06-16 21:13:35Z

Hi Jennifer,

By now you may have cracked this problem -- I hope so! But in case not . . .

You refer (on 22 November 2009) to the first known man in your line being a William Brander (1786-1854), whose son James was born in the Azores in 1837 and was father in turn to the John (b. Azores 1857) who became your great grandfather. You add that "the family were Fruit Merchants based in the Azores but possibly originally from Elgin". And in your opening post you say that from your investigations up to that date you had found that "the family seem to be merchants and James at one point is named as being in Lisbon".

I wonder what the evidence shows about the activities of James (b.1837) in Lisbon. You do not specifically mention the James Brander who flourished there between ca. 1760 and 1780, though you may still know all about him. But it is always dangerous to make such assumptions, so: the IGI shows two local marriages for him, plus a number of children's baptisms -- though unfortunately they do not include a William. Perhaps further research could eventually reveal that one of the older ones produced a son of that name.

The interesting point here is that you stated that your Azores Branders were fruit merchants -- and this James Brander (in tandem with his brother Alexander handling the London end of the business) made his fortune in the citrus trade. As you may know, the proceeds allowed both brothers to buy a fair few acres near Elgin, and James went on to build himself an attractive house there named Pitgaveny. Country Life magazine printed an interesting illustrated article about the house and its owners on 23 August 2001 (vol.195, no.34, pp.52-57), which confirms as much:

"James Brander, who built Pitgaveny, was a self-made man. Born in Moray in about 1731, he made his fortune in Lisbon shipping oranges and lemons to London, where they were sold by his elder brother, Alexander Brander ... " (p.52).

There is also some material about this family accessible via Google Books, in vol. 1 of Burke's LG 1847 -- though what is shown there is in part contradicted by the evidence visible in the IGI.

Rather more speculative material appears in the IGI for Spain, which shows a baptism submitted by an LDS member (i.e. much less dependable than entries generated by the controlled Extraction Program). The parents are recorded as William Brander and Hester Dorothy Burnett, and the child was christened Robert Burnett Brander. The entry was been submitted four times: all the entries say that the birth occurred at Malaga on 6 November, though they disagree about the year: three give 1795 and one gives 1793. Both dates are obviously too early for the father to be your William. But any Iberian Branders naturally catch one's eye. Several daughters born in the same period are attributed to the same parents, all with Spanish forenames. One of the daughters is shown as dying in 1887, with the source apparently being an unnamed book held (?)at Salt Lake City.

You will no doubt also have considered (and it seems excluded?) the William Brander son of John Brander and Margaret Young, who was christened at Drainie in Moray on 14 February 1786 -- per the IGI. He and his siblings may perhaps have some connection with the people who built Pitgaveny and may even have been recruited into the family business, though I have not had the opportunity to explore further in that particular direction. Maybe someone else can help you there, if in fact you think that child could still be a realistic candidate.

At all events, it would be interesting to learn whether you have made any further progress since your last posting here.

Rol

Johan Brander from Germany

lindseybrander79 — 2010-04-05 03:00:26Z

Hello! I am trying to find out more information about Johan (John) Brander who immigrated from Germany in the late 19th/ early 20th century. Wife's name was Barbara Jon. Two sons, Ewald (Edward) Brander and John Brander, daughter Johanna Brander.

Tnanks

Re: Margaret Brander (Aberdeen)1843-1872 m Arthur James Baird in Montreal, PQ

carolinedonegan_1 — 2010-03-07 22:49:28Z

My Grandmother is Eileen Margaret Joly-Myall daughter of Caroline Baird Joly. My mother is Janice Myall Donegan.

Caroline

Re: brander hugh

gaillinnell — 2010-01-15 10:35:44Z

hi heather, u say ur my dads first cousin, i dont no much of the branders only when i was small,we use to go and see my dads uncle willac and his wife at bogside,and wewere not allowed to speak un less spoken 2 and his half sister grace.I no that my grandfather was not married 2 my grandmother that is why our surname is not brander but robertson, but i would like to no more about my family,and my grandfather,my dad use to spend alot of time with his grandparents on the farm and church on sundays.Saddly my father has past on and miss him very much,he played a very big part in his childrens and grandchildren lifes,as my son has followed his footsteps and joined the raf i know my dad would be very proud of him.if u can give me more info please email me at gaillinnell@live.com thank u gail

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

Chadwyck3 — 2009-11-22 20:34:50Z

I'm sure that you are right Jennifer: truth to tell the Branders all did seem to use the same christian names over, over & over again. I'm struggling with seemeingly innumerable
Williams, Jameses & Alexanders!!
Anyhow - nice to make contact & if I ever come across any Azorean connections I'll know where to come to!
Regards

Paul

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2009-11-22 19:27:47Z

Hi Paul
Thank u for your email. Unfortunately I cannot match our Branders datewise although the names match (down through the generations they seem to keep the same christian names which doesn't help!) My William was born in 1786 where I do not know but possibly Elgin, he died in the Azores in 1854. His son James was born in Ponta Delgada, Azores in 1827 one of seven children. His son John (my great-grandfather) was also born in the Azores in 1857. The family were Fruit Merchants based in the Azores but possibly originally from Elgin area. Maybe further research might bring up a possible link - which I am sure there must be! I will keep you posted

Best wishes

Jennifer

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

Chadwyck3 — 2009-11-20 22:36:41Z

Hi Jennifer

My Mother's paternal line were Branders, all from the Maverston, Urquhart/Elgin area - an area with many Brander lines.

My Great Grandfather, William Williams Brander was born (abt 1857) to William (b c.1805)& Ann (Emslie) Brander. I believe that, among their 7 children, they also had a 'John' for whom I have as yet no B/M/D details.....so I guess not likely to be connected.

However, William(1805)'s, father was a 'James' & I believe produced a brother for William (amongst his 8 children) named James, who was born about 1810 - so conceivably the 'right' sort of age range. Again no evidence at all of any connection but, I guess, interesting.

Were 'your' Branders 'merchants' in Elgin or elsewhere?

Regards

Paul Meredith

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

MellowYello — 2009-09-25 09:07:32Z

Thank you for your response. I will add your information to my files and if in the future I find out anything that might be of interest to you I will be in touch.

Jennifer

Re: Branders in Elgin, Scotland

vogelmann74 — 2009-09-24 19:43:50Z

I don't know if this helps, but my grandmother(whose maiden name was Kretsinger) told me that her great grandmother's name was Brander and that she was from Elgin, Scotland.