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Re: Jessie Butler

dturner54321 — 2012-05-23 03:32:03Z

Lillie was her sister not her mother. Iknow...she was my grandmother.

Re: William Idiens -- mother was a BUTLER

isandblast2 — 2012-05-22 23:40:02Z

William Idiens (Born 1914, Blaby, Leicestshire,England)had a sister (Cecily Rose Idiens)she was born a year later in the same location. Cicily Rose Idiens is my maternal Grandmother. If you have any further information about William Idiens or the Butler family - it would be fabulous to hear from you.

Re: William Idiens -- mother was a BUTLER

2012-05-22 23:39:45Z

Hello Karen;
Just a short message my great grandfather was called william george idiens and came from Aston I am beginning to wonder whether they are the same person or someway connected. He moved to Handsworth in Birmingham in 1910 with 2 sons george and harry, he had married edith latham on the 25th december 1906. They then had further children edith who died at 17yrs of TB, edna, joan and Ivor. William george Idiens had 2 brothers who died in an house fire ? when. Please get in touch.

William Idiens -- mother was a BUTLER

2012-05-22 23:39:14Z

I have a William Idiens, his mother maidname was Butler.

Re: John W. Butler

dstidham2 — 2012-05-22 23:38:24Z

I am a grand child of John W. Butler of once of Groesbeck who was married to Lula Pearl Biggs (Butler) He was married to Ima Harris at the time of his death in 27 Oct 1970. He is buried in West Orange in the Forest Lawn Cemetery.

Dorothy Butler Stidham

Re: "Black Irish" or "Melungeon"?

mifamilia_2011 — 2012-05-22 23:37:44Z

Thanks for writing. I have done a lot of research on this, and it is sad all the misinformation. Some born of ignorance, some from shame and bigotry, some people just trying to survive in peace.
It is biologically very difficult to have blue eyes, curly//wavy hair, and have (heavy beard) male body hair and be of any Indian heritege. Most people told to have been Cherokee are not. Even in SC or NC. If you Google "Cherokee photo" you will see your family looks nothing like the Cherokee.
The Melungeon or Black Irish or other "tri-racial" of NC are in fact genetic descendants of the Moors or Imazighen of North Africa by the way of Spain or Portugal. The phenotype is strong evidence and the DNA anaylysis is conclusive. Google the non-Arab people Morocco or Tunisia photos and you will see the family resemblance. Blue eyes, wavy hair, dark olive skin, and general appearance. I have written an essay on this topic and focused on non-English female names that appear often in NC , E TN, and SW VA. One of the place these people migrated to wash Highland Co, OH. Most of the claims of being Indian was to avoid the Jim Crow laws from being thought Black in the early 1900s. I would be happy to share more upon request.
I would love to have more details on the Color status in the Census; and any stories of being discriminated against based on race. Good luck.

Re: Daniel Butler (Rickman)

mifamilia_2011 — 2012-05-22 23:37:21Z

Re: Daniel Butler (Rickman)

mifamilia_2011 — 2012-05-22 23:37:01Z

Would you please provide some names, dates, and places so that I might view them in the Highland Co.,OH . Which year? Which census?

Re: "Black Irish" or "Melungeon"?

hope_blackstock — 2012-05-22 23:36:41Z

Hi there, I would love to see what you have come up with. I believe I am a descendant of the Rickman's of Virginia and Ohio and am trying to find out as much about them as I can. Their classification seems to be convoluted - Mulattos, Melungeon's, Sioux Indian, etc. Please share!!!

Re: "Black Irish" or "Melungeon"?

mifamilia_2011 — 2012-05-22 23:36:26Z

I am sure I can answer your questions. Yes, they are called Black Irish, Melungeon, Lumbee Indian, other NC Indians, Guinea of WV, Brass Feet, etc. I have that ancestry. A doctor/historian and I have spent the last year researching and writing about them. We just finished an article to be published. Briefly, they are descendants of N. African Berber, a pure Ancient race of people. You give most of the clues. Black hair, often wavy/curly, blue-green eyes with a 3-dimentional appearance. Often with an olive/pale skin and high cheekbones. They came ashore in NC / SC about 1600 and moved North into VA/TN and KY. Later into Highland Co. OH. I have photo of people with that phenotype from Morocco and Mexico. They are not generally Indian or Negro as neither have the blue eyes or blonde hair.

Daniel Butler (Rickman) VA abt 1792 m Lovina NC ; "Black Irish" or "Melungeon"?

magimother — 2012-05-22 23:36:11Z

We were told we were Black Irish, Black Foot, Cherokee, &Choctaw. 1860-1880 Iowa Census show Mulatto, 1850 Illinois Census show Black, 1840 Illinois Census show "People of Color". Children were born in Jasper Co, Illinois, and Highland County, Ohio. Daniel was known as Rickman later but earlier on as Daniel Butler. The family was driven out of Iowa at one point do to color. Superior court docs show Daniel Rickman, alias Daniel Butler with two spellings. Some family members tell stories of the Trail of tears and a member perishing in a brush fire on the way. Much speculation but little other than oral family stories. They were referred to as having ichy feet. Stories of dark hair, blue eyes which still dominate the family. Any one with any information showing Daniel and Lovina/Lavina/Levina (depending on the census) back in Ohio or Virigina/North Carolina in the late 1700's early 1800's please contact me. We don't care what we are, just who we are! Thank you Pamela

Re: Daniel Butler (Rickman)

hope_blackstock — 2012-05-22 23:34:14Z

Hi there, I have come across many citings in texts about the Rickman's being Ochaneechee Saponi Tutelo. What have you encountered about the Rickman's in your Moorish studies? I have heard of this and am particularly curious of those Moors that came to N. America. My Rickman ancestors are descendant from of Thomas Rickman in the tax records late 1600's???
His Son was John Rickman (1719-1784)
5 children William (1742), John (1750), James (1768), Fanny (1770) and
Peter Rickman (1740-1800) and wife Rebecca Gowans
|
John Rickman (1780)- Elizabeth
John's siblings (Thomas, William, Peter, Isaac, Abner, Susannah)
William Rickman (1813-1889)- Nancy J. (1818-1875)
15 children one of which is
Uriah John Luefel Rickman (1834-1893)m. Mary Ann Kendall (1842-1920)
17 children and so on and so on...
starts Virginia, then to Highland Ohio....
reference in a book by a german commissioned to study these people: authors are the Haithcox' who are native themselves
http://www.common-place.org/vol-05/no-01/heinegg-hoff/index....

Re: Daniel Butler (Rickman) VA abt 1792

threeladiesinwaiting — 2012-05-22 23:27:23Z

My line is Danuel Butler (Rickman). His mother Tabitha Harris died in Highland, Ohio. Ihave a lot of info if needed. His wife was Lovina Harris.

Aaron Cowley

Butler / Butelho, Rebello Azores,Portugal, Tauton Mass

beadladie — 2012-05-22 23:23:18Z

I am looking to go back farther in my family from Taunton Mass. My Great Grandparents were Bertha Rebello Butler 1884-1968, Antone Butler 1874-1934 . Their parents came over from Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. I am taking a trip over there this summer some time and would like to visit their town if I can find information before I go. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

BUTLER Edward W - Vietnam Wall section 9E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-20 21:54:05Z

BUTLER Edward W - Vietnam Wall section 9E

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BUTLER Thomas J Jr - Vietnam Wall section 9E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-19 13:03:09Z

BUTLER Thomas J Jr - Vietnam Wall section 9E

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BUTLER Robert H Jr - Vietnam Wall section 9E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-18 14:10:50Z

BUTLER Robert H Jr - Vietnam Wall section 9E

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-AA & African American Johnson family of st Rose and Boutte, St Charles Parish LA

darryldj175 — 2012-05-15 02:21:03Z

Greetings,

-I am interested in the Johnson family of St Rose and Boutte of St Charles Parish LA.
May come from the “islands” (? Honduras, Haiti..). Some family members where listed and from the Ormand and Destrehan Plantations.
-possible names of connection, McCutcheon (?en, on) and Butler.
-some found listed in the “Rost Home Colony” - Freedmans Bureau Records of Louisiana.
Also has anyone researched documents of former slaves of the 'Little Red Church" ?
Located between/near these to plantations?
-some family appear to have remained in the area, with others moving to East Baton Rouge and New Orleans; and Mississippi.
-Thankyou for any leads, advise given.
GJ

Re: Rev. Jesse Butler Lawrence Co., Ala.

ashbymj1 — 2012-05-13 22:56:49Z

Are you still looking for Jesse Butler? I am kin and have much info. For you if you still need it

Re: James Butler -- b. 1826 Ireland

McSwede — 2012-05-13 21:16:19Z

to hazelb123

Hi, I have information on James Butler.
James Cannon Butler 19 Oct 1825, d. Nov 1901 in Illinois
and Mary Hannon 1839-1923
children: mat hew, JAMES BERNARD, elizabeth, Cecelia, Francis L., James, Joseph M. and Nan.

I have more.

Re: Info On Elizabeth (Bettie) Weatherly Butler

IrvinButler — 2012-05-12 17:12:09Z

Bettie W. Butler was my grandmother. I am the son of Irvin S. Butler,who was the son of Bettie and William Ross Butler. I think that Bettie died sometime between June 6, 1900 and November 24, 1903 (which was the date that William R. Butler remarried). I found William's grave at Green Hills Cemetery (in Greensboro, NC) but did not find Bettie's grave. William's death was recorded as July 29, 1939. I want to know where Bettie is buried.

Please let me know your email address if you read this post.
My email is ibutler4@sc.rr.com.

Re: Info On Elizabeth (Bettie) Weatherly Butler

IrvinButler — 2012-05-11 00:09:58Z

Elizabeth (Bettie) Weatherly Butler was my great grandmother. My father was Irvin S. Butler, Sr. I have been to the Guilford County Courthouse trying to locate my great grandmother's place of burial. No luck yet. I found William Ross Butler's grave in the Green Hills Cemetary, but nothing about my great grandmother. I think she died sometime between June 6, 1900 and November 24, 1903.

Re: Butler / Breton in Canada & Maine

Mayberry_Marchetti — 2012-05-07 14:55:36Z

Thank you again for looking into this. I'm hoping to make it up to Maine sometime where I can maybe find of information among the cemeteries, local records, ect. I'm sure something will pop up eventually.

BUTLER Johnnie E - Vietnam Wall section 7E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-07 10:28:40Z

BUTLER Johnnie E - Vietnam Wall section 7E

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Re: BUTLERs (including William H, Isaac, Joel, Haley)

mskjgenealogy — 2012-05-06 02:54:27Z

We must be talking about different families. Sorry!

Re: BUTLERs (including William H, Isaac, Joel, Haley)

lindadeckard58 — 2012-05-04 20:32:39Z

No she was born 1875 in Bowie texas.

Re: BUTLERs (including William H, Isaac, Joel, Haley)

mskjgenealogy — 2012-05-03 22:49:46Z

Just found your post. Would your Donie Martha Butler be Martha Butler born about 1917? I don't have any information on her. I would appreciate any information that you have and am interested in the picture, too. Would your mom know anything about her brother Henry? I can't find anything on him after about 1912. Thanks.

Re: James Butler and Elizabeth Giles NC,Scott Co.,KY and Jennings Co.,IN

DgDougherty53 — 2012-05-02 22:00:44Z

I would like to know when this man has the BUTLER book published as I would be interested in buying a copy.

If possible please let me know. tomdg75@att.net.

BUTLER Earlie J Jr - Vietnam Wall section 6E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-01 22:06:35Z

BUTLER Earlie J Jr - Vietnam Wall section 6E

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Re: Zachariah Butler (b. 1736 VA - d. 1814-15 in Elbert Co., GA)

Vicfrommich — 2012-04-30 13:30:24Z

just checking for death date of Zachariah Butler as 1814-4 in Elberton, GA. Some records show B.1736 D. 1792. Thx

Michael and Johannah (1794) Butler

tinathorpe — 2012-04-30 13:29:21Z

on the 1851 census i have found Michael and Johannah (1794)Butler. Living in Bootle Liverpool. i have found two children Johannah(1828 Ireland) who married John Green (1818 Ireland) and had one son, Henry(1850 Liverpool)and Michael (1835 Ireland). i think Michael(1835) maybe my great, great grandfather who married Margaret Welch or Walsh (1851 ireland)
my great grandmother Amelia Butler was born (1878 wigan).
Iam now finding difficulty finding anything for irish records regarding this family and nothing about Michael and Johannah form 1851 census.

Re: John Butler

DgDougherty53 — 2012-04-30 13:28:02Z

I just found that John Butler that first married Bar or
Bathsheba Griffith married second Editha Todd Myres in
Decatur Co.,IN. She had been married to a Thomas Myres. They
had lived in Scott Co.,KY and migrated to Decatur Co.,IN.

James Butler and Elizabeth Giles NC,Scott Co.,KY and Jennings Co.,IN

DgDougherty53 — 2012-04-30 13:27:16Z

I have a James Butler who married Elizabeth Giles,

Have info on sons Thomas born 1780 NC(don't know what county) and his brother James born 1783 in NC. Brother John
born 1788 in Ky I assume Scott Co.
Daughters Sally married a Thompson possibly in Scott Co..
Nancy married a Tilford possibly there also.
Jane married Purnell Short s/o Eli.
Nothing is know of Mary born 1790 and Elizabeth born 1795 both KY possibly Scott Co..
Does anyone have any of these people in their line????

Re: James Henry Butler

tlvargas — 2012-04-30 13:25:15Z

Hi Roxanna,

I have recently gotten back to my family research and found some replies to inquiries I had posted online… of which one is from you.

I am looking for my Butler family who lived in St Louis MO around 1940 and prior, before moving the family to California.

Henry James Butler, my G Grandfather, Ervin Lee Butler, his son and my Grandfather. I do not have information on Henry’s wife. Ervin Lee was married to Thelma Maxine Elders, and her parents were Theodore Raymond Elders and Pearline “Pearl” Mae Hackley. Ervin Lee has two sisters… Kate and Alice.

I hope to hear back from you and am hoping this is related to your family too.

Tanya

Re: James Henry Butler

2012-04-30 13:24:50Z

Tanya,

Email me at TSCROX@aol.com so we can discuss the MO Butlers.

Roxanna

James Henry Butler -- Pauline Prue

tlvargas — 2012-04-30 13:24:28Z

I would be interested in any info you have on MO Butlers, as my father's family is from St.Louis, MO. My grandfather is Ervin Lee Butler (b.1908).

Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Tanya

Missouri BUTLER -- b. 1831 MS

2012-04-30 13:22:33Z

LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON MISSOURI BUTLER B 1831 AND LIVED FOR MANY YEARS IN WOODVILLE, WILKINSON COUNTY, MISS.SHE IS SHOWN ON THE 1880 CENSUS OF WILKINSON COUNTY WITH DAUGHTER EMMA AND SONS LEWIS AND ROBERT. ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU
PHILIP BLANDER

Re: James Henry Butler

tlvargas — 2012-04-30 13:21:52Z

Hi Sherry,

Yes, Ervin Lee had a sister named Alice and a sister who went by Kate, not sure if that was her given name though.

This is the first break I've had in this family line, so I hope to hear back from you.

Tanya

Re: James Henry Butler

2012-04-30 13:21:34Z

Is David Lonzo Butler the father of your James Henry Butler?
Did your Grandfather Ervin have a sister named Alice?

James Henry BUTLER- St. Louis, Missouri

tlvargas — 2012-04-30 13:21:16Z

Looking for information on James Henry Butler believed to live in St. Louis, Missouri. Married to Pauline Prue. Had my Grandfather, Ervin Lee Butler.

Tanya tlvargas@prodigy.net

Re: Zachariah Butler (b. 1736 VA - d. 1814-15 in Elbert Co., GA)

Vicfrommich — 2012-04-29 18:55:14Z

hello Janice! Okay, I have added Zachariah Butler to Anna Bulter Fitzgarrald as her father. Too many connections over the past 20 yrs! But Sarah BOWE is listed as her MO. B1738 D 1759...Anna was born after that, so? Do you have Anna's birth in 1700 VA, Hanover, St Paul's Parish? I do know landownership of Zach and George Fitzgarrald we connect. ?Possible gift from father inlaw Zach? But Anna is not listed in Zach's will, I thought I read it also. Any new news appeciated. Subscriped to Ancesrty now Family Tree is "Dusen-Westra". So nice to see your posts, again =] Vic

Re: Zachariah Butler (b. 1736 VA - d. 1814-15 in Elbert Co., GA)

Vicfrommich — 2012-04-29 18:52:45Z

Re: Zachariah Butler (b. 1736 VA - d. 1814-15 in Elbert Co., GA)

Vicfrommich — 2012-04-29 18:42:57Z

Does anyone one have a daughter listed for Zach as Anna Butler B 1770 Va, Hanover? She m'd a George Fitzgarrald. One son Davis Fitzgarrald B 1795 in Elberton, GA. I had found land ownership of Geo Fitz. near Zach Butler as well. I thought I read awill of Zach's and no listing of a dau.
Any addition info on Anna's parents appreciated. Vicky

Re: Butler / Breton in Canada & Maine

JenIH06 — 2012-04-29 15:17:42Z

Edwin's mother's maiden name was Gearing so it probably isn't your family. I did a search on Mary Gilbert and lots of hits came back for Ontario and Quebec but the ones I checked didn't indicate Mary as a First Nation person. There are several Mary Gilberts in Quebec which would make sense because of its proximity to Maine. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck with your search. My Butlers are keeping their past a very good secret! It can be frustrating.

BUTLER Wilbert R - Vietnam Wall section 5E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-04-27 21:22:41Z

BUTLER Wilbert R - Vietnam Wall section 5E

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Phillip Butler

footloose52 — 2012-04-26 18:55:59Z

Trying to trace both ancestors and descendants off Phillip Butler.He was a stone Mason by trade
He was born in Ireland but I don't know where.

I have info from his son Micheal Butler onwards but would like to try and find the Irish ancestors.
Phillips son Micheal came over to England and was living in St Pancras Middlesex in 1841. Like his father he was a Stone Mason. Micheal left Middlesex and moved to North Wales to help to build the Bridge form Bangor over to Anglesey. Micheal married a Welsh girl Ellen Hughes
I have the info on the descendents but not the ancestors. any help in tracing back to who phillip married or where in Ireland he came from would be greatly appreciated.

BUTLER Homer Sr 1902 1973 Holy Bible

t42Restland — 2012-04-26 11:59:35Z

BUTLER Homer Sr 1902 1973 Holy Bible

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Re: Manlove Butler

DgDougherty53 — 2012-04-26 06:42:24Z

James Butler Jr married Margaret Manlove.
They had a son, Manlove born 1809 Scott Co.,KY that married
Sally Payne then he must have married Sallie Mcgannon.

John Thomas Butler born 1807 md Julian Williams and then
Julia Brooks. John Thos and Julian Williams had son Manlove Giles Butler born 1828. He married Elizabeth Draper and then
Camilla Marilda Banks.

Then on down the line: David Williams Butler born 1831 brother to Manlove Giles had a son Manlove Newton Butler born 1854 married to Emma Luella Messner.

Then Emily Butler dt of John( James' brother) married
Theodorus Neal and there was a Manlove Butler Neal in Boone Co.,IN.Thankfully he named his son Marvin. So you can see the name Manlove was used for descendants and also the Giles name was given to descendants also.

Re: James & Elizabeth BUTLER

DgDougherty53 — 2012-04-26 01:19:03Z

One of the Butler researchers found in a family Bible a piece of paper with the following:
Children of James and Elizabeth Giles(this surname has not been proven BUT it must be as the Giles names have been handed down thru the Butler family. Can't imagine someone naming their children by another man the last husband's surmane???) :
1 Sally born 17 May 1776 ,I am assuming NC, married a Thompson or Thomason
2Nancy born 5 Jan 1774 again I am assuming NC, married a Tilford/Telford
3 Thomas born 30 Dec 1780 NC ,for sure ,died 6 Oct 1830 Jennings Co.,In married Sally Short(b DE) 1803 assuming Scott Co.,KY
4 James born 12 April 1782 NC for sure died 11 Apr 1852 Jennings Co.,IN buried Bennett Cemetery. Married Margaaret Manlove 5 Oct 1803 assuming Scott Co.,KY
5Jane born 1 Jan 1786 Fayette Co.,Ky I am assuming as Scott was not a co. yet and was formed from a part of Fayette.Died 1823 Scott Co.,KY married Purnell Short (b DE)
1807 Scott Co.,assuming
6John born 5 June 1788 Fayette or Woodford assuming for same reason above, died 8 Aug 1869 Greensburg, Decatur Co.,In married Bathsheba/Barsheba Griffith (b DE) 1808 Scott Co.,Ky I assume
7 Mary born 10 Sept 1790 Woodford co.or Fayette for same reason above Scott formed 1792
8 Elizabeth born 4 June 1795 Scott co.,KY

Appreciate any help with any of the above.

Re: Polly Butler

mwiegand075 — 2012-04-25 19:00:54Z

Hi Lana,
While reviewing your postings I noticed one from another researcher asking for information on Polly Butler born 1804 whose father was James Butler and mother was Unis Kinsley. If you would, could you please send me information on this family also.

Thanks, Marilyn mwiegand075@gmail.com