Clopper - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

davidmarvinpierce — 2012-05-22 22:41:23Z

Hello,

Thanks for your post. I'm related to the Clopper family through the Chambers family. My 3rd great grandmother, Rebecca McKibbin Pierce, was named for Rebecca Chambers.

The book by Edward Clopper is filled with references to my family, including both the Pierce and McKibbin families.

I'd like to share information. The photos in the Clopper book are great, and I suspect that the Clopper collection must have photos of my Pierce and McKibbin families. Would I need to check with the Cincinnati Historical Society ... also would it be possible to check with Helen Gregory to see if she knows of any Pierce or McKibbin photos?

Many thanks,

David Pierce

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

davidmarvinpierce — 2012-05-22 22:37:05Z

Hello,

I was very happy to see your post on Ancestry. I'm related to you through the Chambers family. My 3rd greatgrandmother was Rebecca McKibbin Pierce, who was named for Rebecca Chambers.

Edward Clopper's wonderful book is filled with references to my direct ancestors (the Pierces) as well as my McKibbin cousins.

I would enjoy sharing information. My direct email address is davidpierce3@cox.net.

Hope to hear from you.

David Pierce

Major John Y. Clopper - 2nd Missouri Cavalry (The Merrill Horse)

MW4542 — 2011-06-15 13:00:36Z

Looking for info on this Civil War Clopper. Does anyone know where he was born, who his parents were, etc. Trying to determine if he is part of my Clopper family which originated with Cornelius Janszen Clopper in the 1600's in New York City.

Thanks, Marianne

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

MW4542 — 2011-03-18 18:20:09Z

Thanks for the info about Beechwood and The Woodlands. Do you think Helen Gregory would object to my getting in touch with her? If you think it's OK, let me know her phone number or e-mail address. I'm always interested in old pictures, etc. and depending on where she currently resides, maybe I could meet her some day. Thanks, Marianne

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

MW4542 — 2011-03-18 18:19:46Z

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

kevinclopper — 2011-03-18 17:50:09Z

Hello Marianne,

It is great to hear from a fellow descendant. Beechwood is no longer standing as well as the Woodlands in Clopper, MD. It is very sad. Many of the letters and family mementos were given to the Cincinnati Historical Society. They have boxes of the Clopper stuff. Also, a lady named Helen Caulfield Madine Gregory is also a Clopper descendant and she grew up an lived at the Woodlands. She has lots of pictures and paintings as well as the Clopper furniture from the early 1800s! I recently met her this past month even though I have been talking with her for years. Hope some of this helps.

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

MW4542 — 2011-03-17 00:42:16Z

Hello Laura: I am a direct descendant of John Clopper (B. 1760) brother of Nicholas, etc. I just finished reading "An American Family" and could not believe that all the letters and documents survived! Can you shed any light on what happened to "Beechwood"? Is it still there? My husband is an antiques dealer and I came upon some information that family items were sold at auction through Cowans in Cincinnati in 2001 (several tin types and books) and a miniature portrait of Joseph Clopper (1802-1861) in 2009. It's sad that these items are no longer in the family. Do you know if all of the documents are still with family members, or are they also gone? Feel free to e-mail me at: rwandmw@yahoo.com Perhaps we can share information. I live in Western Pa. near Pittsburgh. Are you in the Cincinnati area and are you acquainted with Bill Bogardus who wrote "Dear Cousin"? I don't have any information beyond the Cloppers arriving in New York somewhere around 1650. Have you read Witcraft's book? That gives the most information I have seen. It would be great to hear from you. I have only known about the Clopper branch of the family for the past eight months - someone had spelled the name "Clapper" and consequently we had either no information or incorrect information. Some days I feel like a detective! Thanks, Marianne Wagner, Sewickley, PA

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

JackClopper420 — 2011-03-15 17:05:44Z

Below is all I have for him, taken fron Edward N.'s book:

"!EDNCLOPPER: An American Family same for all chdn this family, jsc 10/'95.
!MARRIED: 1ST AN ELIZABETH ? & 2nd Sarah Nobel. John is in 1820 census of Baltimore Co. MD. Pvt.- VA Militia War 1812 w/ Capt. Wm Palmer at Norfolk,
VA. jsc/'95

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

MW4542 — 2011-03-04 03:15:24Z

Hello Kevin: I am a direct descendent of John Clopper (b. 1760), brother of Nicholas Clopper (b. 1766) John was married to Sarah Noble and I have no information on either one of them, especially Sarah. If you have anything tucked away in your archives that could shed some light on these two, I would be most grateful. John and Sarah's son, John Crawford Clopper (b. 1793) apparently was a Physician in Philadelphia. He married Anna Marie Kauck (b. 1796 in Philadelphia) and they moved to Murfreesboro, Tenn. in 1816. I keep wondering where John Crawford Clopper studied medicine??? Lots of questions! Thanks, Marianne

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

MW4542 — 2011-02-27 01:07:22Z

I keep obtaining new information. My "Clopper" line goes like this:

Cornelius J. Clopper (b.1630) married Heyltje Pieters (b. 1632) Both born in the Netherlands.

John Clopper, son of the above, (b. 1665) married Margaret Hagen.

Cornelius Clopper II, son of the above, (b. 1689) married Catherine Grevenraet (b. 1689)

John Clopper, son of the above, (b.1712) married Elizabeth Ten Eyck (b. 1710)

Cornelius Clopper III, son of the above, (b. 1735) married Rachel Low (b. 1739)

John Clopper, son of the above, (b.1760) married Sarah Noble (b. 1770)

Dr. John Crawford Clopper (b. 1793) son of John & Sarah, married Anna Marie Kauck (b. 1796) in Philadelphia in 1816.

Benjamin Dorrance Clopper, son of Dr. John Crawford Clopper, (b.1817) Murfreesboro, Tenn. married Barbara Ann Aregood.

Mary Elizabeth Clopper, daughter of Benjamin, (b. 1843) married William H. Grimm (b. 1842)

Anna Aregood Grimm, daughter of the above, (b. 1884) married Louis B. Erny (b. 1882)

Vincent Paul Erny, son of the above, (b. 1905) married Marie Catherine Smith (b. 1908)

John Clopper

MW4542 — 2010-10-06 01:01:47Z

John was born in New York Oct. 26, 1760 and married Sarah Noble (born Aug. 13, 1770). I am looking for death dates and places of death and also your source. Any Revolutionary War info would also be appreciated. He would have been very young, maybe 15 or so. Thanks, Marianne

Corelius J. Clopper III

MW4542 — 2010-10-06 00:56:43Z

Cornelius was born Apr. 23, 1735 (probably in New York) and married Rachel Low Mar. 7, 1757. I need to confirm his death date and place of death (if you show a death date of 1798 in Maryland, what is your source?) and whether or not he was a Patriot during the Revolutionary War. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Marianne

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

MW4542 — 2010-08-28 13:47:13Z

I am also descendant from Dorrance Clopper (Mary Elizabeth married William Grim). Do you have positive information that Dorrance was born in Germany? I am having a hard time tracking down that information. Also, do you know for sure that Barbara's last name was Airgood and not Aregood. My grandmother was Anna Aregood Grim (Mary Elizabeth's daughter). Any info would be appreciated. E-mail me at: rwandmw@yahoo.com Perhaps we can share what we have.
Thanks, Marianne

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

brucewesterdahl — 2009-08-15 12:58:55Z

Cornelius Jansen Clopper is my 8G Grandfather.

You indicate that he arrived in New Amsterdam in 1650. John B. Witcraft in "Cornelius Jansen Clopper and his Descendants" suggests he was here "as early as 1652." What is your source for the earlier date, and do you happen to have his father's and/or mother's name?

Seeking Daniel Clopper - 208th Pennsylvania, Civil War

JoeNihen — 2009-07-03 17:08:28Z

I am seeking information about Daniel Clopper who served as a private in the 208th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry, Company B (Civil War).

I am interested in any information about anyone who served in the 208th Pennsylvania.

Thanks,

Joe Nihen
morse73@ptd.net

Re: Clopper and Young Families of Greensburg, PA

Arthur_Humphrey — 2009-06-27 21:23:45Z

Thank you so much for you message and willingness to share photos of these tombstones. Since I left the message, I also found both of them, some other descendants, and the portraits I was looking for (that was 5 years ago!).

You are most kind and I thank you all the same for you offer to help.

Re: Clopper and Young Families of Greensburg, PA

franny01 — 2009-06-27 21:05:23Z

Saw your posting on Ancestry of Edward N Clopper, I am not related but have a tombstone picture of
Edward N. Clopper Born in Baltimore Nov 17, 1773 died Greensburg May 17, 1857
Hetty Barclay Young Clopper born Greensburg Oct 20, 1795 died Aug 7 1876
Ellen M Young Douglass

From St. Clair Cemetery, Greensburg

Also have picture of
Hon John Young otherwise John Young Forrester born Scotland July 12, 1762 died Greensburg Oct 6, 1840
Maria Barclay Young Born 1773 died 1811
Statira Barclay Young, Statira Young, Johng Young,
Elizabeth Forrester Young Woods died April 25, 1844 in her 39th year

Re: Clopper Family MD

JackClopper420 — 2008-07-24 18:18:45Z

Re: Thank you, this will help.

I have a lot more on Jacob's famlies and ancestors if you're interested contact me privately at JackClopper@aol.com

How are you descended from David Clopper?

Re: Clopper Family MD

mclopper36 — 2008-07-23 21:50:29Z

Thank you, this will help.

Re: Clopper Family MD

JackClopper420 — 2008-07-18 18:26:04Z

To Mclopper36, My Notes for David Clopper follow. His father is Jacob Clopper and he has a brother John (my line). Jacob's family was the earliset Clopper family into Blair's Valley, probably just after 1850. Jacob was born near Leitersburg to Henry Clopper & Barbara Ritter Clopper (1776-1858).

Notes from my PAF:

EACT:This family seems to have lived in the same area, north of Clearspring at the junction of Polecat Road and Blairs Valley Rd. In 1989 the was still a Counrty store there. Across the road is a small park and picnic area sign posted " Clopper Grov, Blair's Valley Ch of God" and now belonging to the nearby church where most all of these folks are buried.

OBIT: David Clopper was a native of Blair's Valley, Maryland. He was born on February 7, 1841. He was the son of Jacob and Catharine Snavely Clopper. He was a prosperous farmer and a well-known resident of the western section of Washington County. In Scharf's "History of Western Maryland" p. 976b, he is listed as School District Trustee for the year ending May, 1882. This was Election District 4- School District School No. 7. He was a staunch Democrat and was active in political affairs in that section. He was a member of the Church of God in Blair's Valley and was esteemed by all who knew him. For years he conducted a general merchandise store.

David Clopper was married to Sarah Bartles. The children of David and Sarah Clopper were:
John Henry (1863, Joseph Franklin (1865), Rebecca (1868), Sarah (1870), David M. (1872)
Ida (1874), Mary Erdie (1875)
David Clopper died on October 20, 1912, aged seventy-five years. The funeral was held on October 21st. He is buried at the Blair's Valley Church of God Cemetery.

funeral was held on October 21st. He is buried at the Blair's Valley Church of God Cemetery.

1880 Census of Washington County, Md. - Clear Spring District
David Clopper 40 Farmer Born in Pa.
Sallie Wife 45 Born in Pa.
John H. 16 Born in Md.
Joseph F. 13 Born in Md.
Annie 12 Born in Md.
Sallie C. 10 Born in Md.
David M. 8 Born in Md.
Mary E. 5 Born in Md.
Ida M. 1 Born in Md.

The obituary of David Clopper appeared in THE DAILY MAIL, Hagerstown, Md., on October 20,
1912.EACT

On March 12, 1895 David Clopper purchased, for the sum of Three Hundred and Fifty dollars, about 20 acres with improvements from the heirs of John G. Ernst, deceased. The land was located in the Clear Spring District of Washington County, Md. It began at the intersection of the public road leading from Blairs Valley to Clearspring by way of Draper's Distillery. This deed was recorded June 18, 1895. Joseph Ernst carried the mortgage of Two Hundred and Twenty-five dollars.
David Clopper died at his home near Clear Spring on October 20, 1912, from general debility, aged seventy-five years. He had been in failing health for several months, but had been confined to his bed only two weeks. The funeral was held on October 21, 1912. He is buried at the Blairs Valley Church of God Cemetery.

The obituary of David Clopper appeared in THE DAILY MAIL, Hagerstown, Md., on October 20, 1912.

On January 26, 2001 Elizabeth Clopper Troxell received the death certificate (Registered No. 303) of David Clopper. The place of death was Clear Spring District. He had been treated by C. T. Mason, M.D. of Clear Spring, MD., from January, 1912 to October 1912. The last date that Dr. Mason had seen him alive was on October 6th, 1912. According to the death certificate he died at 1 a.m. on October 21st, 1912. His age at death was 71 years, 7 months, and 14 days. The cause of death was Fatty Degeneration of the Heart. Contributory to his death was Edema which he had for 1 to 2 months. His burial took place on October 22, 1912 at Blairs Valley, Clear Spring District. Frantz Brothers & Co. were the undertakers. The name given for his father was Jacob Clopper but the maiden name and birthplace of his mother was unknown by the informant, David Clopper Jr., Clear Spring, R. D. No. 2. His occupation was listed as a Grain Cradle & Rake Maker. He was retired. The certificate states that he was born March 7, 1841 in Washington County, MD.

(Census records for 1870 and 1880 of Washington County, Md. give his place of birth as PA. His son John Henry Clopper's death certificate gives his father's place of birth as Franklin County, PA.)

BIOGRAPHY: Historical background for the David Clopper descendants living in Blair's Valley, MD is written up in Maryland Cracker Barrel, Vol. 29, #3, Dec/Jan 2001, 34 pgs

Jack Clopper, Alexandria, VA 571 274 0947

Re: Clopper Family MD

mclopper36 — 2008-07-16 03:20:06Z

My Great Grandfather was David Clopper who lived in Blairs valley. His wife was Lottie, he had a son Joe (Frank) Clopper. However David's Dad I thought was John Clopper and not Jacob. I would like to find out some info on this such as, civil war service? Where we originated from and for what reason did we come over? Those kinds of things. I don't know very much about my blood line.

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

kevinclopper — 2008-05-03 03:21:15Z

Hello Laura,

Thank you for posting this on the web. It is good to hear from a fellow Clopper! I have actually had some correspondance with your mother Ellen a few years ago by mail. I have moved numerous times since then, and we kind of lost touch. I am a direct descendant of Andrew Clopper (b.1771) who was the brother of your ancestor Nicholas Clopper (b. 1766). Our ancestors grew up together at the Woodlands in Clopper, MD. Would you please contact me via e-mail, that would be great. I look forward to continuing this conversation!

Sincerely,
Kevin Clopper
kevinclopper@hotmail.com

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

GlendaFMoser — 2008-04-26 18:22:22Z

Laura, please send my your e-mail address as I know I have photos of Grace (Moser) CLOPPER that you might enjoy if you do not already have them. I would also love to hear more of her descendants. My husband descends from her brother, Stuart James MOSER, the youngest child of Henry MOSER & Sarah Elizabeth ROGERS (whom I also have photos of). I will look forward to hearing from you.

Glenda Frank Moser (JoMa2991@aol.com)

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

Levite777 — 2008-04-26 10:25:29Z

Hello,

I am a direct descendant of Edward Nicholas Clopper, the man who wrote "An American Family." His daughter, Rhoda Clopper, was my grandmother.

I would be very interested in this family Bible. Moser was my great-grandmother, Grace's, maiden name. E.N. and Grace owned "Beechwood," the family home on Spring Grove Avenue in Cincinnati. They, as well as other members of my family, are buried in Spring Grove Cemetery.

I would like to connect with other members of the Clopper family throughout the U.S. and other parts of the world. I invite any correspondence, both from my family or those who knew them. I would also be interested in knowing what happened to those who stayed in Holland after Cornelius Jansen Clopper emigrated to the U.S. in 1650.

Thank you for posting this!

Laura Masterson (nee Mitchell), daughter of Ellen H. Mitchell (nee Hubbard), daughter of Rhoda C. Hubbard (nee Clopper).

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

MW4542 — 2007-12-16 17:19:47Z

If I already replied to you, forgive the error. I have lots of info on Clopper (Clapper) in Pittsburgh area.

E-mail me at wagnerm@qvsd.org.

Thanks

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

MW4542 — 2007-12-15 03:11:54Z

Dorrance "Clapper" was my great great grandfather. I live near Pittsburgh and have visited the cemetery where he is buried (Highwood Cemetery) He died 9-14-1893. His spouse was Barbara "Aregood". She died 1-30-1904, however, I do not know where she is buried. Their Children were: Joseph Deame Clapper, Mary Elizabeth Clapper (my great grandmother), Sarah Noble Clapper, Annie Maria Clapper, Frances Sedora Clapper, and Catharine Ellen Clapper. How did you come by the birth date and immigration info. I would love to hear from you regarding the Clappers. The info I had was obtained from the family bible which is currently in Florida with some relative.

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

MW4542 — 2007-12-15 03:07:00Z

Dorrance "Clapper" was my great grandfather. I live near Pittsburgh and have visited the cemetery where he is buried (Highwood Cemetery) He died 9-14-1893. His spouse was Barbara "Aregood". She died 1-30-1904, however, I do not know where she is buried. Their Children were: Joseph Deame Clapper, Mary Elizabeth Clapper (my great grandmother), Sarah Noble Clapper, Annie Maria Clapper, Frances Sedora Clapper, and Catharine Ellen Clapper. How did you come by the birth date and immigration info. I would love to hear from you regarding the Clappers. The info I had was obtained from the family bible which is currently in Florida with some relative.

Re: Clopper Family MD

BonnyAndrews97 — 2007-12-01 20:20:00Z

Hello Jack,

Please email me. The Clopper line is of a friend of mine, but I see some other family names we have in common. I'm sure we can make a connection.

bonnyandrews@verizon.net

Re: Clopper Family MD

JackClopper420 — 2007-12-01 19:56:34Z

Clopper family from Blair's Valley, west of Hagerstown, MD is my line. First Clopper into Blair's Valley was Jacob Clopper (1805-1890), m Catharine (Yeager)/Hunter (1805-1858).

They had three son and one daughter.
1. John b. 1834 who had one son Jacob Martin who went to Huntsdale in Cumberland Co., PA ca 1920.
2. Henry Martin b 1836 moved to Okla. ca 1863
3. David b 1841, stayed in Blairs Valley, ran the local store near the BV Ch of God.
4. Mary Jane (1846-1922), m Martin Luther Higgins some descendants moved initally to near Pittsburg.

Jack Clopper in Alexandria, VA

Re: Clopper Family MD

BonnyAndrews97 — 2007-11-30 02:43:59Z

Do you have Cloppers who came from Blairs Valley, Washington County, MD?

Edward Nicholas Clopper 1773-1857 / Hetty Young Clopper 1795-1876 GREENSBURG, PA

Arthur_Humphrey — 2007-03-28 23:13:44Z

I am looking for living descendants of Edward N. Clopper and his wife Hetty Barclay Young Clopper (dates above) of Greensburg, PA.

Reason is rather important! Has to do more with his wife than him. Hetty Barclay Young was the daughter of Judge John Young of Greensburg and his wife Maria Barclay. John Young was one of the first converts to the Swedenborgian faith in America - a Christian religion that values charity and usefulness in life - and he is said to be the one who converted John Chapman to the faith in Greensburg between 1795-1800. Before he became known as America's folk hero, Johnny Appleseed.

Reason for my interest is that I have located the owner of portraits of John Young and his wife painted by Gilbert Stuart in Philadelphia in 1794, and am trying to convince the owner to donate them to a museum in PA. If I am successful, I want to invite as many descendants of the Youngs as possible - and right now, apart from the family that owns the portraits (who inherited them from Frank Young Clopper, who never married), Edward and Hetty are my best hope! Would have to be a descendant from one of their daughters, Elizabeth Forrester Clopper, Margaret Jane Clopper, or Mary Young Clopper.

Get in touch soon if you have John Youngs DNA! I want to invite you to a PARTY!

Come forth please!

Arthur - Miami

Re: Cloppers of York County

2006-11-14 02:35:51Z

Andrew and Edward N. Clopper were two of the eight children of Cornelius Jansen Clopper III and Rachel Low, who were both born in NY, NY in 1735 and 1740, respectively. They married March 7, 1757 in New York. They had 8 children: Elizabeth, b Dec 16, 1758; John, b Oct 26, 1760; Peter, Nov 20, 1764; Nicholas, Nov 3, 1766; Rachel, b Jul 11, 1769, d Jul 27, 1772; Andrew, b Sep 18, 1771; Edward N. b Nov 18, 1773; and Abraham D. b Feb 10, 1776. The mother, Rachel, died in 1780. Cornelius married in 1783 Christiana Cassatt, a widow. They had two more children: Cornelius and Francis Cassatt. There is a small book entitled 'Cornelius Jansen Clopper and His Descendants', which sets forth most of this. It is not complete. I know nothing else about the Cloppers, as I am researching Ann Torrance and her parents, Charles and Elizabeth (Galbraith) Torrance.

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper

GlendaFMoser — 2006-03-18 01:12:36Z

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

Arthur_Humphrey — 2006-03-04 01:54:39Z

Deborah,

I am trying to obtain more information about Edward N. Clopper b. Nov. 17, 1773 Baltimore, MD d. May 17, 1857 in Greensburg, PA (just east of Pittsburgh) and was thrilled to find your posting on the Clopper family message board.

I am pretty certain this is the same Clopper family, although I had Edward N. Clopper's wife listed at Hetty Barclay Young (Clopper) b. 1795 d. 1876. Could easily be my mistake, or he could have married twice. I am a descendant of the Barclay family, and am researching the Young family (Judge John Young of Greensburg, PA). Young's only descendants it would appear were Cloppers. I found information on Edward N. Clopper in the History of Westmoreland Cty., PA (1889 or so).

Notations I have show that Edward N. Clopper had 6 children (Mary Young Clopper married R.W. Burgess of Washington, DC), Elizabeth Forrester Clopper (married William M. Stewart of Philadelphia), Edward D. Clopper (desceased), Margaret Jane Clopper, Col. John Young Clopper, and Frank Young Clopper. Edward N. Clopper was a storekeeper I believe.

Would you be interested in selling that family bible? If so, please let me know as I am very very interested in it. If not, I would love to pay you for photocopies of any family genealogical notations in it.

I grew up in Greensburg, PA and there is a Clopper Ave. there. I can provide you with some more interesting information about Youngs and Barclays.

Kind regards,

Arthur Humphrey
Coral Gables, FL
email: afh143@aol.com

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

Arthur_Humphrey — 2006-03-04 01:54:39Z

Deborah,

In re-reading your entry of Sept. 13, 2003, I note that your Edward N. Clopper and his wife Mary C. (mrried 1865) were much younger than mine (b. 1773). All the same, I wonder whether he might have been the son of Edward N. Clopper of Greensburg (this Edward N. had a son who was listed as Edward D. - desceased by 1882 at time History of Westmoreland Cty. was written).

But Pittsburgh is only an hour west of Greensburg, and it wouldn't surprise me if he did have a son who moved west to Pittsburgh.

I am still intererested that Bible if you want to sell it.

Rgds,

Arthur Humphrey

Edward N. Clopper

Arthur_Humphrey — 2006-03-04 01:54:39Z

Jack,

It would seem that we are probably talking about two different Edward N. Cloppers (although it seems hard to fathom, given that names are almost identical, dates very similar, and that they were both residents of Pa. at one time).

My Edward N. Clopper was born Nov. 17, 1773 in Baltimore, MD. He died May 17, 1857(I believe ) in Greensburg, PA, aged 84. He married Hetty Barclay Young b. 1795 d. 1876 and had at least 6 children. He was a shop-keeper. Information obtained from the History of Westmoreland County, PA 1882.

Given that he was 22 years older than this wife, and History of Westmoreland County indicates that he "intermarried" with Hetty Barclay Young, I wonder if she might have been a second wife?

I have ordered a copy of the book you refer to, and will try to see if I can make any sense out of this!

Arthur Humphrey
afh143@aol.com

Clopper and Young Families of Greensburg, PA

Arthur_Humphrey — 2006-03-04 01:54:39Z

Can anyone provide me with information about descendents of and Edward N. Clopper b. Nov. 17, 1773 Baltimore, MD d. May 17, 1857 Greensburg, PA? He was married to Hetty Barclay Young b. 1795 d. 1876, and is buried in the Old St. Clair Cemetery in Greensburg, PA.

Undertand he had 6 children (Mary Young Clopper, Elizabeth Forrester Clopper, Edward D. Clopper, Margaret Jane Clopper, and Col. John Young Clopper (Colorado?). Was originally from Baltimore and moved west to Greensburg, Was a store keeper.

Clopper's wife Hetty Barclay Young was the daughter of Judge John Young (a Scotsman, and Greensburg's first judge). He also inherited the title Laird of Forrester, and that is on his grave. He and his first wife, Maria Barclay Young, were the ones who converted John Chapman (aka Johnny Appleseed) to the Swedenborgian faith.

There is a Clopper Ave. in Greensburg, PA, and I have some notations about the family I can provide. I am a descendant of the Barclay family of Greensburg, and therefore indirectly related to Cloppers.

I understand one Clopper descendent inherited portraits of John Young and / or his wife Maria Barclay that were painted in Philadelphia by Gilbert Stuart. If anyone knows of their whereabouts, please get in touch with me!

Re: Clopper Name

jingram419 — 2006-02-07 18:49:47Z

I am trying to find Barbara KLOTTER wh married Hans Michael THOMAS in Montgomery co MD in 1744. I believe she could be Barbara CLOPPER as I have hit a blank wall. There is a Clopper Rd near there. Please reply

Re: Clopper Family MD

jingram419 — 2006-02-07 18:43:50Z

Hans Michael Thomas married Barbara (CLOPPER) in 1744 in washington co, md she was born in 1724 and died there. She is recorded as Barbara KLOTTER but there is a Clopper Lane near their home. I'm interested in any info about her and her family. Thank you

Barbara Clopper

jingram419 — 2006-01-27 22:29:08Z

I am searching for Barbara who was married to Michael Thomas and had children in Wasington Co MD around Keedysville. Have much info on Thomas family from Germany to present

A. M. Clopper, soldier, born PA died TX gravestone attach.

skilfulaxe — 2005-01-05 14:12:28Z

I do cemetery research and came across this gravestone to share. A.M. Clopper born PA 1791.

Cloppers of York County

kevinclopper — 2004-04-04 04:18:23Z

I've been doing a lot of research on my family, but have come to a seemingly dead end. My ancestors are from York County, PA and then go back to Maryland. My great grandfather Charles Torrance Clopper was born in York 26Sep1883. For a while I believed his father to be a Hamilton Clopper, but newspaper articles I have found had him as a Junior. I'm pretty sure Charles' grandfather was a Charles Torrance Clopper born in MD in 1801(or 1808?), and that his father was an Andrew Clopper b. 1771 of Baltimore who married an Ann Torrance (due to the Torrance middle name). Andrew's brother is Edward N. Clopper that I had noticed you writing about. Do you have any information on this line or can you confirm any of this? In the 1870 census they had their name as Clapper. Anyway, any info would be of great help. One thing I did find on Edward N. Clopper was that he had a first wife named Grace.

Re: Edward N. Clopper

2004-02-04 20:36:29Z

Arthur Humphrey,

I glad you are going to order Nicholas's Clopper Book. He's not my line but I guess you'll have to understand his line in order to have confidence in your own data.

Please let me know how it turns out.

Jack Clopper
Alexandria, VA
of the Leitersburg, MD, Clopper's originally from
Petershagen, West Prussen

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

2004-02-04 01:33:34Z

Dear Authur,
I will gladly give you the bible. Email me your address at
deborahkay@comcast.net

Or once you email me I will give you info to get in touch with me.

Thanks,
Deborah

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

2004-02-03 17:22:51Z

Re: John Clopper

2003-09-24 16:23:04Z

Dear M McGee,

You have the James Umbarger, Jr. reply for the LeCron ancestors. That appears to be exactly the same data as I have from Ms Joanne Hoover in October 1996. I have nothing additional on that side.

Vis-a-vis Clopper: I have John Clopper's parents and grandparents and some speculative further Clopper's in the form of some IGI material about a group around Johan Cordt /Kloeppers/ from Evangelical Lutheran-Petershagen, Minden, Westfalen, Preussen; ch. 25 Jul 1700.

If you want the Clopper material pls cantact me at jackclopper@aol.com and advise FH program name. JC

Re: John Clopper

2003-09-23 01:04:57Z

Jack,

If you still have this information, I am definitely interested in it. Please contact me via email at mcgeemeredith@hotmail.com.

Thanks,
McGee
(soon to be a Clopper by marriage)

Re: John Clopper

2003-09-23 01:03:32Z

I am engaged to a descendant of John Clopper and Nancy Lecron. I have John born in Antrim Township, Franklin Co. PA in 1796 and dying in Leitersburg, Washington County, MD on March 24, 1878.

I have Nancy Lecron's parents as Simon Lecron and Elizabeth Lyday. Elizabeth was born on May 25, 1771 and died on February 17, 1801 in Leitersburg, MD. Simon was born on October 20, 1765 in Lancaster, PA. He died on June 15, 1814 in Waynesboro, PA. I have Simon's second wife as Sarah Lyday, who he married on July 31, 1802.

Simon's parents were Jacob Lecron/Legron (spelling may have changed) and Dorothea Blanck. I have Dorothea born about 1720 in Schwagern Germany and marrying Jacob Legron on June 19, 1753. Jacob was born in Schonau Germany around 1720 and died sometime before 1776 in Washington County, MD.

Beyond that, I'm stuck. Hope that helps.

Re: Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper,m Ed N Clopper

2003-09-15 14:23:46Z

Dear Clopper BB: While not for certain it is likley that this E N Clopper is a descendant of the below EN Clopper. The Family is the subject of the book: An American Family, pub ca 1950.

Edward Nicholas CLOPPER, b 1766: Nicholas Clopper lived as follows: moved to Baltimore as a boy; became a slave owner when he married Miss Chambers in 1790; lived in Chambersburg, PA for 16 yrs & had a mercantile business and many realestate ventures along the PA/MD border area. They had 12 chdn in all. In 1806 moved to a plantation on the Monocacy River called "Greenfield", FredrickCoMd.
Moved to Ohio in 1822. Pvt. in War 1812, VA Militia w/Capt. Huston, Infantry.

He was son of Cornelius III /Clopper/; b. 1736, Pearl Street, Lower Manhatten, NYC, formerly New Amsterdam. These early Clopper's were Dutch. jsc

Re: Cloppers from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

2003-09-13 19:36:32Z

Please see my message posted in regards to Mary Caroline McClintock Clopper. I have a family bible that my dad bought at a flea market or yard sell. He was all over the country so no telling what city or state he obtained this bible. My dad passed away in 1992. On the front of this leather bound bible is the name Mary C. Clopper. It was given to her on her first anniversary from her husband Edward N. Clopper and contains several births, marriages and deaths.