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Re: Looking for parents of Jacob Clothier born 1810 Philadelphia

NALEXAN1 — 2012-05-10 23:33:00Z

Hello
I am still looking for Jacob R. Clothier's (1811-1869) parents? Where you able to find this information?
Nancy

Re: ambrose clothier from england.

krambo16 — 2011-12-19 20:41:08Z

I am descended from all those you mentioned. I have pictures of Chancy/Chauncy.

Kelley Rambo
(father Larry Rambo, paternal grandmother Reeta Eileen Clothier)

Re: Looking for parents of Jacob Clothier born 1810 Philadelphia

NALEXAN1 — 2011-10-01 13:52:29Z

I believe Isaac's wife was Mary

Re: Looking for parents of Jacob Clothier born 1810 Philadelphia

NALEXAN1 — 2011-10-01 13:46:16Z

Hi
I once thought that the John M Clothier on my family tree was in the Strawbridge & Clothier family, but I now believe John's father was Jacob R Clothier and his mother was Elizabeth Rihl.

Re: Clothier from Street Somerset UK

thecountryhouse1 — 2011-05-14 06:31:04Z

Sorri can't help you wth above but the Anne Regina Winn in your tree was my aunt married to Jack Langdon Lane. Note the spelling of WINN. I am another Judith!!

Re: Clothier from Street Somerset UK

judithlythallsm — 2011-03-28 01:28:03Z

Reuben Clothier is my Greatx2 grandfather. I live in Sydney, Australia. I am a descendant through his daughter Amy Clara Clothier who married Arthur Lythall. would love to share/compare information. Judith

Re: Lenard or Leonard Jackson Clothier

LanceDGill1 — 2010-12-26 16:30:47Z

Thanks for the response Tony. So now the question becomes which Clothier was Elizabeth Saltsman married to?

Re: Lenard or Leonard Jackson Clothier

TONYCEE — 2010-12-26 09:43:17Z

Leonard Jackson Clothier was born 27 June 1904 in Blackfoot, Idaho. He married July1925, Eva Gloria Gourley, born 4 July 1904 in Thatcher, Arizona. She died 28 December 1940 in Los Angles, California. Leonard then married Jessie E. Richardson on 11 October 1941. Leonard died 16 January 1958 in Los Angles, California, and Jessie died on the 12 January 1979 at the same place.
I show no record or documentation that Leonard was ever married a third time. Since he was 21 when first married and then married second within a year of the first wife’s death, and that he died 17 years later still married to Jessie, it is logical that he was never married to a third woman of any name.
I ASSume that someone picked up the death of Elizabeth Saltsman Clothier from the California Death Index and due to the fact that she died in Los Angeles put her together with Leonard. I see no evidence of this marriage in any of the records.
Since Elizabeth lived in Pennsylvania with her parents Milton and Stella Saltzman, it is likely that she married into the Strawbridge/Clothier line and not the Ira Clother line.
Hope this helps,
Tony Clemente

Lenard or Leonard Jackson Clothier

LanceDGill1 — 2010-12-25 14:52:51Z

Ok.....there exists some dispute regarding this individual and who he was married to. Two separate parties claim that he was married to Gloria Eva Gourley and Elizabeth Gloria Saltsman. Gloria Eva was allegedly born in AZ and Elizabeth was born in OH. According to the 1930 Los Angeles Co., CA Census, Lenard/Leonard's wife was E. Gloria and was born in AZ, which tends to support the contention that he was NOT married to Elizabeth Saltsman (at least in 1930). Curiously, Gloria died in 1940. Elizabeth lived until 1996. It seems the logical question is: Was Lenard/Leonard married to both women? Gloria Gourley 1st and Elizabeth Saltsman second?

Can someone shed some light on this controvery?

John Clothier Pennsylvania

NALEXAN1 — 2010-09-05 22:42:33Z

Looking for information for John Clothier born 1844 in Pennsylvania & married Albina who was also born in Pennsylvania. They had 2 children, Elizabeth & George.

CLOTHIER

moirastevenson58 — 2010-05-08 21:30:03Z

I am looking for info on the following Clothiers. Any info is greatly appreciated.

John Clothier b abt 1830 but dont know where...probably in England and married a Mary Ann Burrows.

John Clothier born about 1858 again probably England and he married a Sarah Stirratt. John died in Glasgow in 1910

margaret Jane Clothier born about 1888 (England?) and she married a William McIntosh. She died in Glasgow.

I really want to find out where they were born and I suspect it was somewhere in England as I've found nothing in the Scottish Records.

Clothier, Clark,Toye and Wyatt

Suzannecross69 — 2010-03-01 06:02:20Z

Looking for any descendants of Lily and Albert Clothier, Elsie and Richard Clark, Daisy and Charles Toye and Olive and Cyril Wyatt.

Clothiers of Koylton Township, Tuscola County, Michigan

genniegeek — 2010-01-09 06:35:26Z

Hello! I have done alot of research regarding the Clothier Family that lived in the Koylton Township, Tuscola County, Michigan area. Although I do not have any real family connection. Besides as a teenager I lived on Clothier Road and I have also done extensive research on Siple Cemetery where most of these Clothiers are buried.

Recently from a good friend I have a very old photo album with tin type photos of the Clothiers and other family or friends.

I am currently I am researching and writing a book on Pioneers of certain Townships in Sanilac, Lapeer and Tuscola Counties. I am containing the James Clothier Sr. Family from Koylton Township, Tuscola County, Michigan in my book. The following paragraph regarding this family is going my book:

JAMES CLOTHIER Sr. was born on October 1, 1824 in England and died on November 29, 1908 in Koylton Township, Tuscola County, Michigan. In the 1850s, he came to Tuscola County and settled on 160 acres of land in Section 26 of Koylton Township. He married Eliza Symonds in England. Eliza Symonds was born in 1826 in England and died on January 4, 1887 in Koylton Township, Tuscola County, Michigan. Eleven children were born to Mr. and Mrs. Clothier. They were James Jr. (married Mary C. Wooliever), William (married Emily Jane Symonds), George, John (married Mary Jane Wellwood), Albert (died as a child), Mary J. (married Francis Siple), Eliza A., Manzo (married Minnie Cargill), Francis (married Mary D’Arcy), Elizabeth (died in infancy) and Otis (died in infancy). Mr. and Mrs. Clothier are both buried in Siple Cemetery, Koylton Township, Tuscola County, Michigan.

If anyone believes they have a family connection to this family please email directly at genniegeek@yahoo.com.

Thank You in Advance,

Amy E. Brown

Re: Looking for parents of Jacob Clothier born 1810 Philadelphia

@@GregoryNS@aol.com — 2009-10-30 23:08:32Z

Hi,

This is Greg. My email address is GregoryNS@aol.com

Wow, this is an old post. My wife also descends through Samuel. Not sure off hand why I posted looking for Jacob's parents. Haven't looked at Clothier info in a while. I did run across someone a while back that made a very compelling case that there was no Hannah Rihl and that the info that name came from was mistaken. He argued Samuel's wife was Ann Baker. It seemed to make sense. I'll try to find it. Why don't you send me an email and I'll respond directly.

Thanks,

Greg

Re: Looking for parents of Jacob Clothier born 1810 Philadelphia

sallyronstrom — 2009-10-29 05:15:17Z

I believe Jacob R. Clothier is buried in Palmer Cemetary in Philadelphia, d,1869. Greg Smith sent me Clothier info many years ago and I would like his email address. My husbands family descends from Jacob's brother, Samuel, b.1813. I can't trace any further back than Jacob and Samuels parents, Samuel c. Clothier and Hannah Rihl. Any info appreciated.

Clothier>NY>ill>IN>Nebraska

zoom3277 — 2009-10-27 22:13:50Z

Looking for Asa Clothier born abt 1834 New York wife Lucy born abt Apr 1860 Indiana, Children so far are Seely B born March 1833 Illinois, Leander born abt 1908 Nebraska and two sisters Jessie born May 1892 and Georgia born Feb 1898 both born in Nebraska .

Any having information on this family please contact me.
darlene

Re: John III

TONYCEE — 2009-09-26 03:40:29Z

You are absolutely correct in your information regarding which John died during the Revolutionary War. This mistake has been perpetuated for well over 100 years and mistakenly documented by the misinformation given to and used by the D.A.R. I have spent in excess of 40 years researching this family and have copies all of the documents pertaining to the four John’s listed below, including Rev. War Records. This problem started because both father and son were in the war and their files at the National Archives were mixed together in the 1800’s. Some of them have now been separated so that two files exist, but the problem still exists because of printed references and family history which has been accepted as gospel for well in excess of a century. Here’s the short of it.

John the first (son of Jeremiah), married to Sarah, was born 1678 and died after 2 May 1748 and before 13 March 1748/49 (proved by land records and property inventories)
John the second (John1), married to Hannah, was born 3 January 1707 and died 15 January 1796 (proved by property deeds and division of property by will)
John the third (John1, John 2), married to Eunice, was born 1734 and died after 18 April 1801 and before 3 November 1803 (proven by 1800 census as well as land records, court records with property inventories, division of real and personal property. [my GGG Grandfather was executor or the estate])
John the fourth (John1, John 2, John 3), never married, was born 1758 and was killed 14 November 1777 (Rev. War Records; pg 7 of Connecticut Muster Roll shows death date – Last appears on Pay Roster for 1 Oct. thru 1 Nov. 1777 – pg 3 of Conn. Muster Roll shows death date and pay due of 8 shillings, 4 pence for period of 1 Nov. to 14 Nov. - Say His Head Was Blown Off By A Cannonball, No Record Of This Fact Has Been Found. The Cannonball Story Is Supposedly Documented In "Record In Connecticut Men Of The Revolution, War Of 1812, And Mexican War." Other Records Show That He Was Killed In November 1777 At The Battle Of Ft. Mifflin On Mud Island In The Delaware River. Ft. Mifflin Was Abandoned After A Brave Attempt To Hold Philadelphia.

I hope that this info will help all of those trying to sort out the John problem for any of those who are looking to sort it out.
Tony

Re: John III

hewittroes_1 — 2009-09-26 01:08:53Z

It was John lll's son John lV who died in Nov. of 1777 at Fort Mifflin, PA.

Mae Amanda Clothier

TONYCEE — 2009-09-03 07:50:15Z

Your grandfather, Rollin H. Randall Hemenway married Mae Amanda Clothier at Hudson, St. Croix County, Wisconsin on 24 November 1921 very near where he was born. Mae was born 17 September 1900 at Beaver City, Beaver County, Oklahoma. Mae’s father William Lawrence “Happy” Clothier was a railroad man and he and his family moved frequently. William was born in 1866 and by 1933 he had lived in no less than 20 different places. He died in 1949 in Ceres, California and his wife Hattie Montesa Allphine Clothier died in 1950 at the same place.
William’s first wife died less than 11 months after they were married in 1887. They had no children. William did not marry a second time until 10 years after his first wife’s death.
Hope this helps.
Tony Clemente

Re: Holidays with CLOTHIER's

realbob23 — 2009-09-03 00:30:36Z

My grandmother's name was Mae Amanda Clothier. I think she was born in Hudson, Wisconsin in 1900. She married Rollin H R Hemenway. They lived in the midwest until the late 30s, then they moved to California. Her father was William Larry Clothier.

Charles Chester Clothier

JClothierWeber — 2009-08-31 18:15:06Z

I am searching for the descendants of Charles Chester Clothier (1848-1911) and his wife, Charity Jane Yates (1849-). They went into Oklahoma on the 1889 run, settling in central OK with their sons, John, Claude, Clarence, Fred, Harry, Glenn, Charles Bailey, and Olin.
Any information would be much appreciated.

Re: Clothiers in Ontario

cahobantx — 2009-04-28 13:27:50Z

Correction the spelling of the name. "Clothier"

Re: Clothiers in Ontario

cahobantx — 2009-04-28 13:26:04Z

Rae, My Great Great Grandfather was James Clother, Married to Eliza Symonds Clother. In 1849 they moved from Somerset England, they had 1 son James JR, then moved to Ingersoll, Ontario Canada, then to Koylton Township MI. They had James, John, William, Mary Jane, George(my great grandfather)Almonzo, Elizabeth, a couple more listed on the 1870 census he filled out for that year. The actually settled the property in 1862.

Re: CLOTHIER- FOSSE SOMERSET -ENGLAND

pamclothierallen — 2009-04-21 20:36:23Z

my email is

pam.clothier@gmail.com

You said John Clothier died in the 1840s well I have a copy of the 1841 census which has him still alive in Shepton Mallet so I wonder if they are not the same John Clothier.

I have found with research one can get onto another line,which is very frustrating.Love to receive your ged com.Have lots of photos of the Clothier families in NZ.
regards
Pam

Re: CLOTHIER- FOSSE SOMERSET -ENGLAND

clothearie — 2009-04-21 11:11:27Z

hi pam

i would be very pleased to show you the tree - the problem is that i am new to this "community" feature on ancestry and i do not know how to share with people who are not in the tree (now if it was genes reunited, it would be simple)
i could send you a gedcom if you will give me your e mail address or do you have any suggestions?

I knew about Gus who died in the first world war - he spent some time convalescing in the east end with siblings of my granddad, Charles - we have a letter from the NZ family to my great aunt Alice.

The original John was one of 6 children born to his Dad Charles, but i can find no mention (yet) of his mother. Like all his sons (bar Edwin) he came to london after his wife(henrietta nee Budgett)died. The poor man died of Cholera in the 1840,s - i have the certificate - Henry, his son was present at the death.

I could go on all day!! but must dash now to the shops

john

Re: CLOTHIER- FOSSE SOMERSET -ENGLAND

pamclothierallen — 2009-04-21 00:15:37Z

Hi John
I was married to Leon Clothier whose granfather was Charles Clothier son of Thomas Clothier.His brother James came out to NZ paid for by Charles.
I found John Clothier on 1841 census for Stoke Lane shepton Mallet.He was a currier.He had 2 sons living with him.Edwin 25
James 20.Thomas had gone to London.I would like to know who John was married to.
Charles had 2sons that I know of & 4 daughters.

Arthur
Gus
Millie
Hilda
Violet
Aida

Leon had a twin brother Owen they were born 1932.
Leon my husband died 1996.

James Clothier had a large family,he was a Cooper like his father Thomas.He lived in Christchurch South Island NZ
Charles was a farmer & lived at Waiuku South Auckland N
look forward to hearing from you.I have met Sandie & we exchanged what we had collected.
Pam

Re: CLOTHIER- FOSSE SOMERSET -ENGLAND

clothearie — 2009-04-20 18:22:16Z

hello sylvia - hope you are still researching given that this thread is a couple of years old. I am the G G G grandson of John Clothier born 1771 in Stratton on the Fosse. Thomas joseph was his son and Thomas John his grandson - this is my line. I know quite a lot about the NZ connection through the help of Sandra Matcham - all down to the 2 brothers of Thomas John who emigrated - the 2 sisters did not fair so well.

could we have a look at each others trees perhaps?

John Clothier

Re: Samuel Clothier-Civil War Prisoner

DAlbert3758 — 2009-03-28 01:30:08Z

Please send me your email address and I will scan and send you Samuel's picture. I have contacted a few other Clothiers and received some information. Have searched for the marriage of Samuiel's parents, John and Margaret Scott. I have date Jan 29, 1804 but no proof.

For some reason I could not access your family tree nor could I pull up your email address.
Dorothy Albert dalbert@suddenlink.net

Re: Samuel Clothier-Civil War Prisoner

JClothierWeber — 2009-03-27 22:04:50Z

My great grandfather was Charles Chester, 1848-; he was the 8th child of Samuel and Rachel Crawford and he and his wife Charity Jane went into Oklahoma on the 1890 run. Samuel married a second Rachel--Carter, the mother-in-law of his son, Asa, after Rachel Crawford died. Samuel lived with Charles and his sons in Oklahoma for a short period.

I do not have any pictures of Samuel, Rachel or their other children. I would love to see yours. You are the first Clothier cousin I have found.
My family tree is the Clothier Wolfe Family Tree and is public on ancestry.com---Search "Samuel Clothier" on family trees to access.

Re: Samuel Clothier-Civil War Prisoner

DAlbert3758 — 2009-03-27 21:03:52Z

I have a copy of the page about Samuel being held as prisoner in the book WAR OF THE REBELLION. Samuel was my ggggrandfather. I descend from Eliza the youngest child of Samuel, she died young and left one living daughter, my grandmother.
I do have a picture of Samuel as an older man with a white beard. Do you have one?
Please let me know how to access your profile about Samuel.
I would love to have any more information.
Dorothy Albert

Re: Samuel Clothier-Civil War Prisoner

dsegelquist — 2009-03-27 18:01:18Z

That's nice to know was there a question? you wanted to ask? If not is there a way to see your info, it may be a help to others looking into this family.

Re: Samuel Clothier-Civil War Prisoner

JClothierWeber — 2009-03-27 16:59:03Z

My grandfather, Oklahoman Charles Bailey Clothier, grandson of Samuel Clothier, copied the official transcript. I have posted this on my great-great grandfather Samuel's profile.

Re: Eli Clothier

Pettie3235 — 2009-01-13 18:46:19Z

I know that you are looking for information on Eli, but I would like some information on Mary Jennings. She was married to my Great-great Grandfather Erasmus Lewis. I have little info on him, but just recently discovered that union. I would be glad to furnish our infomation. I know that there were several children at home upon the death of his second wife and I wonder if you Great Great Aunt Cora Jennings Bright was among them? So we might be distantly related.

Helen Peterson

Re: Lyman CLOTHIER

genelistmom — 2008-11-30 16:24:42Z

Hello, I'm sorry but I don't have any info on the GUY family just the CLOTHIER family. Have you tried the GUY surname board? There was a post in this thread (Lyman Clothier), where someone knew the Guy family in Canada, perhaps they can be of some help to you. Once again sorry I cant be of help.
genelistmom@yahoo.com
Admin.

Delbert W Clothier (married 1912 KS) Miss Vera K Bland

RoseStout54 — 2008-11-29 19:46:33Z

(newspaper clipping)

Wedding Bells

Wednesday of last seek Mr. Delbert W. Clothier and Miss Vera K. Bland, Mr. Clover Hunter and Miss Jessie Smith boarded the train and went to Hutchinson and secured marriage licenses. The first couple were married at six o'clock by elder J. A. Freid, of Pratt, at the home of Mr. And Mrs. Wiley Clothier, the home of the bride, in the presence of quite a large number of friends and relatives. The last couple were married in Hutchinson and they visited friends several days before returning home.

These young people live up in the Peace Creek neighborhood and will in all probability make their future home their. They received some handsome and useful presents and their friends are congratulating them and offering best wishes for a prosperous and happy life.

The Sylvia Sun
Sylvia, Reno County, Kansas
Thursday, November 14, 1912
page – front *** column – 2

Re: Lyman CLOTHIER

maggietess — 2008-11-21 21:23:16Z

Need info on George Guy. He was my Greatgrandpa.

Re: Holidays with CLOTHIER's

christinebenson65 — 2008-10-07 22:48:24Z

My mon's maiden name is Beverley Anne Clothier and she was born in Fargo, North Dakota in 1928

Eli Clothier/ Caroline Strohm

bowdowntothequeen — 2008-06-05 01:59:23Z

Looking for any information about Eli Clothier b. feb. 4, 1833 d. oct. 31, 1915 m. Caroline Strohm b. about 1833. I have a web site with more info www.theatkinsfamily.tribalpages.com

Re: Eli Clothier

bowdowntothequeen — 2008-06-05 01:57:53Z

I was wondering if you could e-mail me the pic you have of eli and Caroline Clothier so i can add it to my family tree a long with any other info you have please. my e-mail is precious_lil_peach_only4u@yahoo.com thanks Grace

Re: Eli Clothier

bowdowntothequeen — 2008-06-05 01:54:07Z

I am related to Eli Clothier who married Caroline Strohm. I am looking for any information you might have Caroline Clothier married James Atkins my Great Grandpa. Any info would be great. I have some info at www.theatkinsfamily.tribalpages.com Thanks Grace

Re: Samuel Clothier-Civil War Prisoner

DAlbert — 2008-04-06 19:27:47Z

This Samuel Clothier was my greatgreatgrandfather. Please send anything you have about him being a prisoner. I knew he had been held but any information has been brief.
Thank you
Dorothy Albert dalbert@fgi.net

Clotheir, Viola May??

dancingbear77 — 2008-03-28 19:07:10Z

My great grandmother was Viola May Clotheir. I only know that she lived in PA and NJ for some part of her life and she was married to Joseph Edward Semple and they had three children, William Roy, Elmer and Joseph Jr.
If you know anything that would help me with my family history I would greatly appreciate it.

Re: LUCY MARY(OR) MARY LUCY CLOTHIER

ljrmdslm — 2008-02-11 13:44:02Z

Hi Nancy (Good Morning)

Rec'd your reply yesterday. I'm sorry but I think our wires got cross. My son is a descendant of Elbie and Wilford Clothier. I have not heard of Grace Amelia. I might have a connection once I get more information on the Clothier Family Tree.

I would like to keep in touch with you regarding the family tree.

Regards

Lorry Ann K. Phillip

Re: LUCY MARY(OR) MARY LUCY CLOTHIER

JADOJAnME — 2008-02-10 15:07:27Z

Hi Tony,

Thank you for your reply. One of Mary Lucy Clothier's daughters, Grace Amelia was my great, great grandmother on my fathers side. I do have a public tree with alot of information if you would care to see what I have. My tree is called Nancy Trausneck Orr Family tree. If we are related, perhaps it contains some information you can use.

Nancy Orr

Re: LUCY MARY(OR) MARY LUCY CLOTHIER

JADOJAnME — 2008-02-10 15:06:49Z

Re: LUCY MARY(OR) MARY LUCY CLOTHIER

TONYCEE — 2008-02-09 21:33:05Z

Anonymous,
Please contact me direct tonyceejr at yahoo dot com
Tony

Re: LUCY MARY(OR) MARY LUCY CLOTHIER

ljrmdslm — 2008-02-09 18:03:23Z

Hello..
I'm doing a piece of the Clothier Line here in Ohio. My son is a descendant of Elbie Clothier. Maybe be we can exchange some information. Let's talk.

Re: LUCY MARY(OR) MARY LUCY CLOTHIER

ljrmdslm — 2008-02-09 17:59:07Z

Hi, Tony...
My son is descendant from Elbie, Wilford, Chancy, Artemas Clothier lines. I have a family book (Clothier Coat of Arms) on loan to me from in-laws. Could we get together on some of your findings? I'm in Knox Co. Ohio. I'm trying to find more info on Mary Jane Hall Clothier. Let's talk. I've been doing family research off and on for 5 yrs. Not all on the Clothiers of course. My son's grandmother is still living in California, the only daughter of Elbie. There are two children still living.

Thomas Clothier

bdacd5 — 2008-02-02 18:40:29Z

Looking for any information on Thomas Clothier born in 1834 in Canada, parents to have been born in England. He later came to Greene County IL and had a son named Samuel (Sammy) born in 1863.

LUCY MARY(OR) MARY LUCY CLOTHIER

JADOJAnME — 2007-09-24 17:56:10Z

Am looking for more information on Lucy nee MONTGOMERY Clothier. b. MARCH 1838, CHATAUQUA, NY. She is a daughter of Artemus Clothier (1787-1879) and Mary Polly Montgomery(1796-1879.She is my Gr., Gr. grandmother on my Dad's side. Cannot find any information on her death. Believe somewhere in NY.