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Re: Dainton families in Canada

rwdainton1947 — 2012-01-21 21:47:55Z

More -
Frederick William Dainton (1856 - 1914)
Born 1856, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, UK
Parents: John Burgess Dainton & Harriet Foulds
1st married Lavinia Gilman, 19 December 1874, St Michael, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire
Children:
John Thomas Dainton, born 1876, Hartington, Derbyshire, England
Widowed: 31 August 1902
2nd married Clara Salt, 21 September 1903, Bakewell Register Office, Derbyshire
Witnesses: W. E. Ponsford & C. A. Ponsford
Children:
William Henry Salt, born 1901, Derbyshire
Cecil Bertram Salt, born 1902, Derbyshire
Frederick Dainton, born 30 November 1903, Derbyshire

First three children of Frederick & Clara
Dainton name was added later to William Henry Salt. This Dainton family line originates in Somerset.

Re: Dainton families in Canada

rwdainton1947 — 2012-01-21 19:36:40Z

Primrose May (née Wood) Dainton (1902 - 1987)
Born 19 April 1902, Staffordshire, England, UK
Married William Henry Dainton, 28 October 1922, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Witnesses: Herbert Wood & George Edward Hanson
Died 29 March 1987 aged 84 yrs., Derbyshire, England
Buried St Cuthbert’s Church, Doveridge, Derbyshire, England
Sources: UK GRO Birth Index - Dis. Uttoxeter, Vol.6b, Pg.391, Qt.2, Yr.1902
UK GRO Marriage Index - Dis. Uttoxetter, Vol.6b, Pg.650, Qt.4, Yr.1922
UK GRO Death Index - Dis. Derby, Vol.6, Pg.0641, Qt.1 (March), Yr.1987

William Henry Dainton (1901 - 1971)
Born 1901, England, UK
Died 13 June 1971 aged 69 yrs., Derbyshire, England, UK
Buried St Cuthbert’s Church, Doveridge, Derbyshire, England
Sources: St Cuthbert’s Church Burial Records.
UK GRO Birth Index - Dis. Derby, Vol.3a, Pg.718, Qt.2, Yr.1971

George Henry Dainton (1929 - 2004)
Born 23 December 1929, Lancashire, England, UK
Married Margaret Burn, 1950, England
Died July 2004 aged 74 yrs., Tyne & Wear, England, UK
Sources: UK GRO Birth Index - Dis. Liverpool, Vol.8b, Pg.354, Qt.4, Yr.1929

Re: Dainton families in Canada

mastersaddler1 — 2012-01-19 19:39:36Z

Hi
My name is michael Dainton son of George henry Dainton born in Liverpool 1928
His mother was primrose May Wood and Father William Henry Salt Dainton.
Just starting to research and would be grateful for any information

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

watkinsteri — 2012-01-19 04:25:54Z

Linda I have sent you an email with attachments with pictures. Gerry still lives in Montevideo, Uruguay. I left England when I was 24 to get married. I live in Spanish Fork Utah. Teri

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

lindafrost194 — 2012-01-18 21:05:22Z

Hi Teri ,Thanks for your reply .I tried to find your book and saw it listed as a popular site but was unable to access it.I assume that Nellie/Gerry still lives in S America ?I did not know about Geoff and his family .I assume you were brought up in England ?Harry was determined to outlive James so if he went to James' funeral he must have achieved that as he died the same year .We visited Bertha once a year and she was living at Quarry Bank in a bungalow belonging to Ethel Cope
(a cousin).Harry gave us a postcard of Princess Alice Orphanage where he spent his childhood,poss John also-Linda

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

watkinsteri — 2012-01-17 23:28:38Z

No, Nellie/Gerry is my aunt, my father is Geoff Hill son of James Alfred, they called him Alf or Pops and Ada Harris his first wife. Ada died on my Dad's tenth birthday and later James Alfred remarried. Dad went on to be a successful business man is very well known throughout the West Midlands for his electrical appliance store and his charity work in his retirement. Dad is still living but has survived cancer twice and heart by pass surgery, he is 84. He has always had a close relationship with his sister even though she emigrated to South America. Gerry is still living too but a few years older than my Dad. I remember Grandad as I called him but I never really knew any other family. In later years I heard that there had been some kind of falling out between harry and james according to my mum but we dont know what. So sad really, I guess Harry showed up at James funeral is what I remember being told. I think I may have a vague memory of Bertha as an old woman lying in a bed at Grandad's house. I would love to hear anything and all you know about family history and especially love to see the photos. So what orphanage were teh boys sent to and when. Would that be Johnny and Harry then? ~ Teri ps Dad married Edna Lorraine Jackson, they were later divorced and since then both my parents have remarried.

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

lindafrost194 — 2012-01-17 22:19:27Z

Hi Teri ,I had noticed your message to Ann about John Henry and was going to contact you .I have just finished some long messages to Ann with my knowledge about the Hill family .Hopefully she will forward them to you .We remember James had a daughter called Nellie who went to Montivideo S America .Is this your mother?
I also have pics of Bertha,Lily ,Harry and Susan .Also a pic of the orphanage where Harry went and possibly the other 2 boys went there as well .The family was obviously struggling to cope after Alfred's death .I will email you...Cheers Linda

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

watkinsteri — 2012-01-17 21:00:54Z

Dear Linda

Ann Dolman Haldane forwarded your message to me. I am the grand daughter of James Alfred Hill brother to Susan Hill and great grand daughter of Bertha and Alfred William Hill. Ann tracked the family down some years ago and now I am excited that you have found us! I have so many questions but they will have to wait. For now, where do you live? You can email me at watkinsteri@hotmail.com. If you google Teri Watkins Growing Up In England there is a book there I self published and in it has a picture of James Alfred and his wife Ada Harris. I look forward to hearing from you in my inbox! ~ Teri Watkins^_^

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

lindafrost194 — 2012-01-17 20:55:03Z

Yes Susan eventually came to Cambridge where I am now .I have sent 2 replies to you with my contact details but I will continue by emailing you directly
Cheers Linda

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2012-01-17 14:50:24Z

Dear Linda, I have just found the message you wrote at 1am, It gets you like that when you first start, it is so amazing to find ones ancestors. I went to college and took Genealogy some years ago. I did other peoples family trees as well as my own. We have so much to talk about and I have all the info you will need on the Hill, Cope and Houghton Families.If you let me have your e-mail address I will let you have what I have. Bertha Cope, was my great grandmother too, I have her birth and death certs, also our great Grandfather Alfred William Hill's, who died so tragically before your grandmother was born.I have photo's of Alfred and his bible, also the chair he made for Bertha as a wedding present. Alfred started life in York where he was an Organ Builder and Church Furnisher. He was the son of Elizabeth Hill who's mother was a Houghton before her marriage to John Hill. Where are you by the way ?. I know Susan Annie went to Cambridge but have been unable to trace her after her marraige to Herbert Bond Hayes.Regards Ann

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

lindafrost194 — 2012-01-15 00:54:26Z

Hi Ann , I have sent you 2 messages and now realise that we are indirectly related .Lily May Hill Starkey was my great aunt but I never met her as the family had been told that she died in WW1 when she was a nurse .In fact the story goes that the ship she was on had sunk !I have been reading some of your messages and I am amazed at all your research .I have only just started .i am willing to share details of Lily's family .Lily's mother , my great grandmother lived to be 98 years so we have some good genes in the family .hope to hear from you...wow it's nearly 1am !
Regards Linda

Re: Frederick William Dainton

robertfcooper — 2011-03-19 02:39:37Z

Hello Veronica, My name is Ann-Marie Cooper. I am new to this and I saw this post of yours. My Great Great Grand Father is Frederick William Dainton. I do have a little bit of info on him. Theses are personal stories from my mother and they are coming out of her every few days and he sounds as if he is quite the rascal! I realize this post is old and I sure hope you are still involved. I hape you get this and this might come in my husbands name Robert Cooper. I sent an email to you today as well. How close are you by blood to F W Dainton? I so hope to hear from you. Ann-Marie

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

timauger — 2010-08-29 13:00:46Z

Hello Sir/Madame,

Thank you very much indeed for your help. This may be the reason why I have been completely confused with the family. This may well indeed be the case that the families have been mixed up. I will look at the lady that you have found as being a possible wife of Thomas and hopefully this will be the breakthrough, that I so very much need. The other info that I have is that Thomas's son John was a greengrocer and also his younger brother Samuel(my 4xgtgrandfather), I do not know what their father did as an occupation. I was hoping that it was the same, however have found nothing. This was to try and tie in maybe the Dainton family to mine. I will try also to get in touch with the society of geneaologists in the hope that I can prove the surname of Thomas and Mary either being Dainton or Bainton.
Thank you once again for your help it has been very much appreciated. I wish you a super bank holiday weekend..

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

rwdainton1947 — 2010-08-27 01:23:07Z

If you review the records, you'll find Thomas Dainton living in Dursley area and at the same time Thomas Bainton living in London. There is a Thomas Dainton, baptised 22 December 1753 at St James the Great Church, Dursley - parents Thomas & Mary Dainton, while there is a baptism for James Lewis Bainton on 10 December 1753 in Saint Andrew, Holborn, London - parents Thomas & Mary Bainton (I assume?)

Around Bradford-on-Avon there are several Bainton or Baynton familes throughout the parish records up to today. There are also some in the Frome area.

As for Tufton - there is a Mary Thurston in the same time period - have these two (Dainton & Bainton) been mixed up?

As for 20 years between eldest and youngest child - it is not uncommon.

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

timauger — 2010-08-23 18:54:52Z

Sorry for the delay in replying. Thank you very much indeed. I wonder do you have the original marriage record of Thomas and Mary as this may well answer the mystery of his surname. This being either Bainton/Baynton/Bayntun and Dainton. Its just that the spelling is so close. It could well be my 5xgreatgrandfather and mother. Although on my previous posting I could only show Baptism's for the children of Thomas and Mary's chidren in my tree I am unable to find their birth place. The info about my Thomas Bainton and Mary Tufton came from Debretts and they found a marriage via the Society of Genealogists. In there report, his surname is spelt as 'Bainton', There was also a baptism for a child called James Lewis Bainton on 10/12/1753 in Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, he is then shown to have died on 03/03/1754 in Shoe Lane, Holborn, Middlesex. Then came Thomas, then John, then Samuel and lastly Sarah. However they initially dismissed this because there was approx 20yrs between the oldest and youngest child. After making other posts I have been assured that this was not all that uncommon. I would love to hear your thoughts on this and also of the other Dainton researches. Also do you have any details on Mary's death. I look forward to hearing from you.
Very best Regards, Simon

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

timauger — 2010-08-20 20:58:43Z

Hello Ruth, Many thanks for replying its greatly appreciated. Sadly I now nothing of the dianton family. It was only by chance that someone emailed me about a Thomas Baynton and Mary Tufton as having been married in Dursley in 1745. Then after that I found a record of a Thomas Dainton and Mary Tufton with the same marriage details. I think that this is the same family and the Dainton line is also that of the Baynton name. However that said I have only that info, so much more work is needed. I was hoping that other members would reply on more info about Thomas as well. If I am correct then it would link us all into the Baynton/Bayntun family of Spye Park in Wiltshire. Very best regards Simon

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

ruthclayton51 — 2010-08-20 15:48:50Z

Ann Re your posting on Charlotte Louise.I have a little research on her as she was nmy grandfather Arthur's older sister. She was a photographer's model and married a William Sauders who was a travelling salesman. He died, early in the marriage(I did locate evidence of his death and will have to research my records for you) However, it is interesting to note my father Gilbert, lived in Hawkhurst, Kent with his mother, and brothers in the early 20th century. My father and his brothers were born in Pietermaritzburg South Africa The family moved to Hawkhurst from Pieter. when my grandfather was working in Buenos Aires. I think they left in 1912 to emigrate to Melbourne where he was employed as a bank architect.

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

ruthclayton51 — 2010-08-20 15:21:14Z

HI Simon I have been reading the latest Dainton posts with great interest and have just sent a reply to Ann in regard to Hannah. The only Thomas I have knowledge of is Hannah Dainton's youngest son b around 1841. My Dainton records go back only to 1801 and the birth of Hannah Dainton, my great, great grandmother. The latest postings from Ann have filled in gaps I thought it impossible to close without a trip to the UK and a long search through church records. It could well be that the names Dainton/Baynton have been interchanged. If the Thomas Dainton/Baynton you are related to is the grandfather of Hannah, then yes we are related

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

ruthclayton51 — 2010-08-20 14:58:03Z

Hi Anne Quel Surpris!! Doing a little late night Dainton check and up comes someone who shares the same grandfather.Variable being the number of "greats". Henry Dainton is my great grandfather. His youngest son, Arthur Edgar is my grandfather. Arthur migrated to Australia. My father Gilbert is his middle son. I have one surviving brother who like my father, has the olive skin you mentioned in your fascinating reply to Tony. We all wondered where it came from I have tried and tried to figure out the paternity of Hannah's husband To no avail, until a random search through Ancestry, which I have not used for years, yielded this fascinating result. My email is ruthclayton@optusnet.com.au. I have plenty more info I can pass onto you. Can't credit I have actually found a Dainton relative. I had given up all hope and thought I would have to confine my Daintons to my brother ( living in Auckland New Zealand and a cousin in Western Australia, whose sons also have the distinct olive skin and dark hair

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

rwdainton1947 — 2010-08-17 15:15:36Z

This is what I have on Thomas Dainton -
Thomas Dainton (1723 - )
Born 1723, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England
Baptised 10 January 1724, Cirencester, Gloucestershire
Parents: John Dainton & Jane Bower
Married Mary Tufton, 19 May 1745 St James the Great Church, Dursley, Gloucestershire
Children:
Sarah Dainton, baptised 22 September 1745, St James the Great Church
Joseph Dainton, baptised 23 February 1746, St James the Great Church
Elizabeth Dainton, baptised 8 November 1748, St James the Great Church
Mary Dainton, baptised 14 May 1750, St James the Great Church
John Dainton, baptised 27 December 1751, St James the Great Church
Thomas Dainton, baptised 22 December 1753, St James the Great Church
Thomas Dainton, baptised 19 March 1755, St James the Great Church
James Dainton, baptised 17 August 1756, St James the Great Church
Thomas Dainton, baptised 6 October 1759, St James the Great Church
John Dainton, baptised 2 February 1761, St James the Great Church
Died Dursley, Gloucestershire, England

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

timauger — 2010-08-15 13:53:28Z

Hello Ruth, I wonder if you can help. Would you know anything on Thomas Dainton and also that of Mary. The reason for my question is that I believe his name actually might be Baynton. There is a marriage record on the Boyd's marriage index that a Thomas Bainton married a lady called Mary Tufton in exactly the same year and on exactly the same day and place. If this is correct then we share the same family members. Thomas and Mary were my 5xGtgrandparents. I have records for them in London between the years 1754 to 1773. I also have Mary's death 18-Dec-1776 at Field Court, Gray's Inn, Middlesex. I have also baptism records for their five children that I know of which are as follows:-
James Lewis Baynton Bapt 10/12/1753 in Saint Andrew, Holborn, London Dies 04-Mar-1754 at Shoe Lane, Holborn, Middlesex.
Thomas Baynton Bapt 04-Jan-1767 in Saint Andrew, Holborn, Middlesex.
John Baynton Bapt 19-Mar-1769 in Saint Andrew, Holborn, Middlesex.
Samuel Baynton Bapt 04-Aug-1771 in Saint Andrew, Holborn, Middlesex.(My 4xGtgrandfather).
Sarah Baynton Bapt 14-Nov-1773 in Saint Andrew, Holborn, Middlesex.
The odd thing is I cannot find any of their birth records, so could this mean that they were not originally from the area. The other thing that I have tried to find is the parents of Thomas and the only one that I can see fits is a Thomas Baynton born in Gt Bedwyn. The father shown is John Baynton. It has also been suggested by a great many that my line is a lost line of Decent from the Baynton/Bayntun family of Bromham in Wiltshire. So with this in mind you could also be of the same family and that the Dainton surname is in actual fact another variant of Baynton/Bayntun/Bainton family surname which we have only just found. I would very much hope that you will reply as I am determined to find out and would very much like to hear your thoughts.
Very best regards, Simon (Tim is my twin brother)

Baynton/Bainton To Dainton

timauger — 2010-08-14 22:34:05Z

Hello all,
I have read with interest your research on the Dainton line, starting with Thomas Dainton and Mary Tufton and I wonder do any of you know when and where Thomas and Mary died as this could solve a mystery within my own family. The reason I ask is that potentially my 5xgreatgrandfather and mother were the same. However in my research they are Thomas Baynton and Mary Tufton. I have a record from the Society of Genealogists, this record coming from Boyd's Marriage Index that a Thomas Bainton married Mary Tufton at Dursley in 1745. It has also been said that my line is a lost line of Descent from the Baynton/Bayntun family of Bromham, Wiltshire. So I wonder if any of you have any info on Thomas's parentage as well. Their children on my line of which I only have the Baptism's of and all are baptised in St Andrew's, Holborn, The eldest was James Lewis Baynton bapt 1753, then Thomas Baynton bapt 1767, then John Baynton bapt 1769, Then Samuel Baynton bapt 1771 and lastly Sarah Baynton bapt 1773, So is it possible that they were actually born somewhere else. I hope that this is of some help and that it may help solve this mystery and hopefully contect all of us to the Baynton/Bayntun family of Bromham, Wiltshire.

Re: Daintons from Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire

rwdainton1947 — 2010-07-10 03:05:06Z

John Dainton (1795 - 1852)
Born 1795, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire, England
Married Hester Nash 1816, Holy Trinity Church, Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire, England

He did not marry in the USA.

Re: Dainton's in Canada

rwdainton1947 — 2010-07-09 00:36:18Z

Hi, I have Catherine living in Rose Street, Collingwood, Victoria, Australia. I'll look further into this.
George may have gone to South Africa first before going onto Australia. He has two Children born in Victoria
He built The Dainton Family Hotel (1874). The Albert Hall, Queens Rd. Melbourne (1875)
George & Catherine are at The Dainton Family Hotel, Melbourne, Victoria (1874 - 1880)
George died 16 October 1880 aged 61Yrs., Victoria, Australia

Regards, Robert

Re: Daintons from Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire

RouX_Renard — 2010-07-08 08:58:34Z

Hi Kaye,

People back then did not go to America to marry and come back again. This kind of spurious record is too common. Someone in the Later Days Saints is 'saving' the wrong Dainton ancestor :-(

Best regards,

RouX (researching on behalf of best friend Tim Dainton of FL, ex Taunton, UK)

Re: Dainton's in Canada

meltonkin — 2010-07-08 07:31:26Z

Hi
I am researching the George Dainton b. 1822, (son of John) who married Catherine Marion Topp in London. She was the daughter of John Bethridge Topp and Martha Newton. It would appear he left Martha and her daughter and went to Sth Africa where he started a new family. Do you have any info on why he left or about the family.

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2010-07-06 20:40:25Z

Hi Robert, Both Synderby's and Hannah's death certs are really difficult to read even with a magnifying glass.
Synderby's says that he died from a Stomach Ulcer but there is also a reference to his heart.
Hannah's says she died from a tumour in her chest which I have presumed to mean breast Cancer, the informant at both the deaths was Elizabeth Whittard their neighbour who signed with a cross. Both were living at Horsfield in almost abject poverty, it was more or less a workhouse which I find amazing as Son Henry Dainton was doing very well in Tunbridge Wells thank you very much.... leaveing his parents in poverty in old age.

In 1871 Henry's daughter Ann Elizabeth, ( my great grandmother) was at a small boarding school for girls at 5,St Helen's Villa's, Tunbridge Wells. Her sister Edith Dainton died age nine years 2nd quarter 1869. Vol 2a. page 321.From a chest infection.
Son John Ernest, Married Margaret Ellen Featherstone 1st Quarter 1893, Vol 1d. Page990 Wandsworth. by 1901 John Ernest owned his own Cigar manufacturing Co in Deptford St Paul, Greenwich.
Brothers Frank B 1865 and Arther B 1874, have both left home by 1891, I found them as boarders at the house of a Robert H Forsyth at, 12, Effie Terrace, in Fulham. Frank is a clerk and Arther is an articled pupil. Both boys went to Australia to Victoria, a place called Bourke.

Great Aunt Charlotte my great grandmothers sister ( known in the family as Aunty Birdie) did extremely well, firstly becoming a photographers pupil, then on the 15-6-1892 she married Frderick William Saunders a Commercial Traveller. Father Henry signed the marriage cert, his rank or profession is an Agent ?. By 1901 Charlotte is no longer living with her hudband she is boarding with a William Damian Russell who is a clerk at the Board of Trade, Williams wife is an Artist and they have two children, Charlotte is a Fshion Artist ( she actualy designed clothes and was quite well known). They are living in Hampstead Heath.
Later Henry bought a rather large hotel at 15 Marine Parade, Folkstone. And lived there with Mistress Rebecca Peggin and two servants while still maintaining the Speldhurst house. His wife Anne Barrell had left him, going to live with son John Ernest in Wandsworth and died there in 1894. John Ernest then took over the Speldhurst house and lived out the rest of his life there. I don't think Henry was a very nice man.

I found Aunty Birdie on the 1911 census at a house called Clovelly in Station Rd, Hawhurst, Kent, not to far from Tunbridge wells. she was 43 yrs and there is no sign of her husband Frderick..... The younger generations of that generation of my family ( that is my mother etc, who knew Charlotte) always presumed she was a spinster, I found her marriage, which shocked everyone.....In Pic's of her as young woman she like her sister Ann Elizabeth were both tiny but extremely beautiful...My cousin Nicholas who is much older than me knew her as a child, it was Nicholas that gave her the name Birdie, Nicholas was born in 1933.... Birdie died of old age in the Hawkhust house at 94.

The amazing bit of the Dainton history is the marriage of my great grandmother Ann Elizabeth Dainton to Antony Edgar Yorke- Starkey..
Anthony's father Richard Yorke-Starkey was a very wealthy Tea Dealer. He had married Ann Hazard Jenkins in Swansea in 1845, they lived in Clifton, Bristol before moving to Dursley for a short time, the 1851 census finds them living in a very large house with servants. Hannah Dainton was also lving there at that time but would have been worlds apart socialy so they may never have met. So strange that both family's should come together in Tunbridge Wells with the marriage of Ann Elizabeth Dainton to Anthony Edgar Yorke- Starkey.
Anthony Edgar moved to Tunbridge Wells as a young man after being involved in the Famous Somerset Brewery Starkey,Knight and Ford. The Brewery originaly started in Spaxton Somerset 1797 and the original malthouse still stands, they were known as Kings of the West Country.
Anthony Edgar changed his profession to that of an Antique Dealer, antiques having been a passion for many years and remained so for the rest of his life. The photo I have of Anthony is incredably like the one of you. Maybe it's the bbeard.

Ann Elizabeth Yorke-Starkey nee Dainton died age 59 on the 29-1-1917 of Cancer of the cervex, which was operated on a year before and then re-occured, The death cert say's that she died of Cancer and Exhaustion. Anthony edgar lived another four years and died 22-4-1921 of Cancer of the Pharynx. But according to my grandfather he died of a broken heart.

My grandfather George Ernest Yorke-starkey also died of cancer. And other complications, he contracted Polio at six years old and was Paraplegic although lived till 77 years. His death cert says. 1. Broncho Pneumonia. 2 Perforated gastric ulcer.3 Carcinoma of the sromach. 4 Acute retention Prostectamy.

My mother Mary Elspeth Yorke Starkey died seven years ago at the age of 84yrs, she was a Physiotherapist, she was a heavy smoker and was taken into hospital after a mild heart attack, sadly dying two weeks later from M.R.S.A. picked up while in hospital. she is still very sadly missed. My father had died a year earlier and I don't think she ever came to terms with his death. Mummy did have skin cancer at one time but the cancer was removed and she did not have chemo. I am the eldest of six children and so far am the only one of us to have had cancer.
My cousin Nicholas has had Cancer and is now fine, he is the only other member of the family that I know of who has had Cancer. Nicholas's mother lived to be 91 and was fit up until the day she died, she had been working in the garden, came in for lunch, she had her lunch and then fell asleep in her armchair and just didn't wake up.

Right, after all this I am off to make a large pot of coffee
I think I am what you folks on the other side of the pond call pooped,
Hope this helps in your research.
Best wished Ann.

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

rwdainton1947 — 2010-07-06 18:24:49Z

Hi Ann - read the piece on Barbados, very interesting!

Thanks, Robert

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

rwdainton1947 — 2010-07-06 17:58:57Z

Hi Ann,
Very interesting indeed! What was on my mind was how could an unmaaried woman support so many children? There had to be hidden element - and there was in the form of Synderby. The other factor that threw me off was his given age in the three census - 1851, 1861 & 1871, which would have made him too young to be the father.

In the death certs for both of the, does it say cause of death? I would be interested, especially in Hannah's case as I track cause of death in as many Daintons as I can - another project I'm working on.

Regards, Robert

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2010-07-05 11:15:31Z

Hi again Robert, I thought that you might find this an interesting read. I found it on Google.
"Hunting North American Indians in Barbados".
By Professor Patricia Penn Hilden.

Regards Ann

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2010-07-04 23:18:21Z

Hi Robert,
I don't have a John as Hannah's first born so I have noted that thank you, I have Sydney Christened 16-9-1824. ....Also Ellen Christened 3-4-1830. George 1836. Thomas 1841.Mary 1839.

Hannah's sister Maria Born 31-8-1894 had an illegitimate daughter 25-6-1815, she named the daughter Elizabeth Groves Dainton. Maybe A Groves was the father, Maria Married a James Curtis 29-7-1823. So it seems that both girls had illegitimate children
Hannah never married Synderby and he is not on the 1841 census but could have been away, at any rate he appears on the 1851 and 1861 living with her.
I have the history of Henry Dainton up to present day as he was my Grt Grt Grandfather, also his brother George Born 1836 who was a carpenter. He moved to West Ham, Address, 44, Albert Rd, ,West Ham, Essex.1881 census, and lived out the rest of his life in West Ham. The Family are still there.

Henry married Anne Barrell 26-1-1856 and lived at 28, Edridge Rd, Speldhurst, Tunbridge Wells,Kent and became a Brewers Agent. His father-in-law was a Malster I have the marriage cert which gives Synderby as Henry's father calling himself Synderby Dainton. I also have Synderby's death cert which is dated 1880, The age at given at his death is 75yrs which would make his birth 1805. The informant is Elizabeth Whittard who was also present at Hannahs death, she was their next door neighbour.
Bolton Field where they lived has long since been raised to the ground.

I have the births of Sydney,Ellen, Henry, George,Mary and Thomas. None of the birth certs give a father....
Syndeby's birth date is in doubt. As he was the son of Sarah Syndeby and James Holder Alleyne and I believe was born in Barbados. From information that I have gathered, although have yet to prove, Sarah Synderby was a slave on the Holder Alleyne Plantation, Barbados, which still exists today. My cousin Richard Dolman's family lived there for a few years and he was at boarding school with the present Holder Alleyne's daughter.
On one record I found Synderby says he was born at Painswick Gate.
Painswick Gate is famous and was the Place at the top of the River Seven where the slave ships came in, slaves often had no record of birth and often gave Painswick Gate as a place of birth or rebirth in a new country. The Gate actually exists and has now been moved and sighted as a historical monument. I have contacted Gloucestershire records office and they have been unable to find a birth cert for Synderby even though I paid for a one man search.

Ellen married Alfred Nichols in 1853 on the 1861 census they are living in Stroud and have four chidren John Alfred 1853, Joseph Henry 1855, George 1857, William 1861. Alfred Died in 1868 at the age of 37. After that date I can find no trace of the family at all....

The reason for my lapse in searching is that I had cancer with chemo etc and have only just got back to normal, if one ever does !! the chemo effected my thought processes, Its called Chemo Brain) and i was unable to concentrate for a while, although I think that there is no better exercise for the brain than Genealogy.... As I said yesterday I have been working on the Starkey's with the help of a cousin who lives in Malta, She is giving me a hand with info on Sir Oliver Starkey who was Valetta's Secretary and a Knight of St John during the Great Siege and is an Ancestor who was born in Cheshire. So quite a nice change to be back researching Dainton's.

Best wishes Ann

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

rwdainton1947 — 2010-07-04 18:20:54Z

Hi Ann,
Mary Dainton was born 24 April 1838 in Dursley when Hannah was 37 years old. There is no father's name given on the birth certfificate. Thomas, her last child was born in abt.1841 when Hannah was 40 - not been able to find this birth certificate yet.
Hannah had her first child, John in c.1821 when she was 20 years old. This would make Synderby/Sinderby/Sinderly Holder just 9 years old according to his age given in the 1851 & 1861 Census. The 1871 Census would make him 10 years old - So who was the father? Interesting!

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2010-07-03 19:37:34Z

Hello Robert, Thanks for that info,its really interesting. I have to admit I have yet to go back as far as the Dobunni Heartland !! I haven't ventured further than Thomas Dainton's birth in Dursley about 1720. He married Mary Tufton 19-5-1745.....
My Grandfather always presumed the dark skin colour and black hair came from Synderby Holder. There is also the B neg blood group that runs through my family which is common to ARAWAK Indians in North America. In the photo's I have of my grandfather and his brothers taken the day before they went to war in 1914, they all have a rather long face and very dark skin topped off by shiny black hair. My mother was the same, then it skips a generation coming back with my granddaughter who has waist length black hair.

I have been working on my Starkey Family and have neglected the Daintons for a while, I really must get back to them. Having had a very frustrating time trying to join the Cheshire Starkey's with the Somerset Starkey's, this I have now done going back from 1604 to 1348. Perhaps now I can concentrate on the Dainton's.
Again thank you. With best wishes Ann

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

rwdainton1947 — 2010-07-03 16:08:30Z

Hi Ann,
May I offer a little more on Black Hair you talk of. All Daintons I have tracked down in the UK come from one single area of England. From this area there are two dominent centres - Beckington, Somerset and Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire. The Dursley, Gloucestershire group have connections to these two centres and formed at a later period. From these three locations the Daintons trace their lines back to. It is interesting to note that this is the Dobunni heartland, which had their capital at present day Cirencester. The hair colour of the Dobunni is black, while the neigbouring Celtic tribes were fairhaired. In my reasearch on Daintons I have found that black hair is the dominent hair colour through today.

I would be very interested in your early research from Thomas Dainton. I believe the Mrs. Susanna Dainton you are looking for is Susanna Shewering who married a Joseph Dainton on 2 March 1794 in North Nibley, Gloucestershire.

Regards, Robert Dainton (rwdainton@yahoo.com)

Re: Doris Evelyn M. (née Bartlett) Dainton

rwdainton1947 — 2010-03-18 02:04:20Z

Hi - no, I've not found parents yet - also not found birth for Doris in UK GRO BMD Index. The 1911 Census would show more details - if they were sisters or not.

Do know Albert Sydney was baptised at St John the Baptist in Hinton Charterhouse, Somerset, which is not a stone's throw from Limpley Stoke. Though born in Six Bells, Monmouthshire, why baptised so far away? Family in the area?

Re: Doris Evelyn M. (née Bartlett) Dainton

eannals — 2010-03-17 20:14:39Z

Hi Robert. Did you ever get an answer re the parents of Doris? My dad remembers visiting Uncle Charlie (as he was known) and Auntie Doris in the late 1940s In Reading and hearing the story that Charlie's brother Sydney (actual name Albert Sydney) was married to Doris' cousin or sister. He also vaguely recalls that the sisters/cousins originated from Limply Stoke. I have found that Elsie (Sydney's wife) was born in Reading but I believe her grandfather was born in Wiltshire though haven't narrowed that down to Limply Stoke as yet! Just wondered if you had any info on Doris' parents to see if I can establish a link between her and Elsie.

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2009-09-01 18:43:46Z

Hello Ruth,

I am a direct descendant of Hannah Dainton's son Henry born 1834. I have the Dainton family history back to Thomas Dainton born 1720 who married Mary Tufton 14-05-24,up to present day. If you would like any info I would be quite willing to share.

Regards Ann Haldane

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2009-09-01 15:12:05Z

Dear Tony,Thank you for answering.
I have Thomas Dainton B 1720 Dursley Gloucestershire He married 1. Mary Tufton B. 14-05-24 on the 19-05-1745.
Children of Mary and Thomas.
Joseph B 23-02-1746----------
Mary B 14-05-1750
Thomas B 19-04-1755 This Thomas died
Thomas B 06-10-1759
John B 02-02-1761
Frederick B 08-08-1762
James B 17-08-1770

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Joseph Dainton married 2. Sarah harding 06-10-1772
She must have died and there is no issue from this marriage
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Joseph then goes on to marry 3. Jane Banks B 1736 on the 07-11-1777. in Dursley Gloucestershire.

Children of Joseph and Jane.
Elizabeth B 18-10-1778.
Joseph B 1779.
Ann B 09-03-1781 This Ann must have died as they had another daughter Ann, see below.
Sarah B 1782
George B 15-05-1783
Ann B 1785
Elizabeth B 1787.

Notes for Ann Dainton B,1785. She married Enoch Smith 9-3-1806.
Notes for Sarah Dainton. She maried Joseph Eastep 20-03-1803
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Jane must have died as we now find Joseph married to a Susanna, she is always referred to as Mrs Susanna Dainton, I have never been able to find her maiden name. Family history has it that she came from or was descended from a Royal house, but then married very much beneath her. Joseph Dainton's origins are in Ireland, he was quite well off and a builder of roads and bridges. He also employed slaves brought in from Barbados one of whom was called Synderby Holder, the son of Jacob Holder Alleyne and Sarah Synderby
Sarah being a slave of Jacob or James Holder-Alleyne the owner of a large plantation in Barbados. The Holder Alleyne family still have the same plantation. All will become clear
as we go on.

Children of Joseph and Susanna

Maria B 31-08-1794
Samuel B 03-09-1798
Hannah B 18-06-1801-------------
Thomas B 1802
Harriet B 18-06-1807
Sofiah B 09-10-1809.

You will notice that there are two children with names that don't quite fit. Maria and Sofiah. Could these be the relatives you are looking for ?

Maria Dainton had an illegtimate daughter named Elizabeth Groves Dainton B 25-06-1815. She married a James Curtis 29-07-1823.
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This is where our family history takes a tumble.
Hannah Dainton fell in love with Synderby Holder, as a slave a marriage at that time would have been unthinkable. Hannah had already left home and at sixteen. I found her in 1817 working in a factory in Dursley as a Worsted Weaver.
From 1820 onwards I can find no mention of her family so she must have been cut off from them, then on 16-09-1824 a son Sydney ( named I suspect for Synderby) was born, six years later in March 1830 a daughter Ellen. In 1834 a son Henry Christened 07-08-1834. In 1836 a son George, 1839 a daughter Mary. 1841 a son Thomas. the last two children were christened together 18-11-1841.
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The 1841 census has Hannah as head of the house there is no mention of Synderby and Ellen is now Eleanorah, all the other children are there and their address is Woodmancot, Dursley.
Now on to the 1851 where there is allot more info.
Hannah is down as age 50 yrs a charwomen, address Boulton Field, Dursley. Sydney has left home but the other children are all still there as is Synderby Holder whose occupation is that of a Carpenter and Joiner.
Hannah died 4th qrt Dursley 1868 V6a p157. present at her death was an Elizabeth Willard who was also present at the death of Synderby Holder.02-060 1880 age 72 yrs.
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Henry Dainton was my Grt Grt Grandfather, he married Anne Barrell 28-01-1856. Hannah was not at the wedding but Synderby was, he is down as Henry's father and calls himself Synderby Dainton. From then on our family history begins to recover as Henry's father in-law was a maltser, although at that time Henry was a draper. He had his own Shop at 48 High St, Berkeley , Gloucestershire. They have servants and a nursery maid. Henry's daughter Anne Elizabeth grew up and married Anthony Edgar York-Starkey. The York- Starkey family had lived in Dursley at one time but Anthony's father Richard was a tea dealer owning ships and lived mainly in Bristol so may not have come across the Daintons at that time.
Henry moved to Tunbridge Wells in Kent and became a Brewers Agent at 18 High St, Tunbridge. The York-Starkey's were already living in Tunbridge Wells at that time, The marriage of Anthony Egar York-Starkey and Henry Daintons daughter Anne Elizabeth Dainton took place on the 25-10-1879.
Anthony Edgar York- Starkey and Anne Elizabeth Dainton are my great grand parents.

One of the things that the whole family has questioned over the years was the colour of my grandfather and his brothers skin they were olive skinned with straight black hair. We put this down to Synderby Holder who was descended from the ARAWAK Indians in America. This little known fact was because at the beginning of slavery the Americans tried to turn the Indians into slaves but having none of it they just kept going home, so Africans were imported from the West Indies and swoped for Indians which is why there are so many references to Indians in Barbados.
I hope this has been of some help to you, if not I hope you found it an interesting read. The York-Starkey family are descended from Edmund Langley Duke of York and Isobella of Castile. The most interesting ancestor I have found at the moment is Sir Oliver Starkey who was one of the Knights of St John and Valetta's Secretary in Malta during The Great Siege during the 16th Century.

With regards Ann.

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Again this wife must have died as we now find Joseph marrying.

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

tony14317 — 2009-08-31 20:44:10Z

Ann, I am descended from Thomas Dainton, who married Esther Grimaldi, daughter of Alexander 7th Marquess of Genoa. Esther's mother was Esther Barton of Gloucester and it may be a possible connection with the Daintons of Gloucestershire. It would be a major break through for me if your research shows a connection. I have all the information I need on the Grimaldi line.
Regards Tony

Re: Dainton in Gloucestershire, England

swanwise — 2009-08-05 13:08:10Z

Dear Veronica, I have the history of the Dainton family from Thomas Dainton who was born Dursley Gloucestershire. to the present day. I am a descendant of Thomas Dainton. I am at present researching my Great Grandmother Ann Elizabeth Daintons sister Charlotte Louise Dainton. I have her right up to the 1911 census. She married in 1892 and her married name was Saunders. In 1911 she is living in Hawhurst, Kent.She was head of the house but not a widow. I can find nothing else from then on not even her death.If you have any info on her I would be very greatful. And of course would let you have any Dainton info I have.
Regards Ann.

Re: Daintons from Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire

rwdainton1947 — 2009-06-20 20:21:34Z

Ellen Dainton (1859 - )
Born 1859, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire, England
Baptised 16 October 1864, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire
Parents: Alfred Henry Dainton & Mary Ann Ashton
Married William Holborn 1879, Wiltshire, England (Holborn or Holborne)
Children:
William Holborn, born 1879, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire
Arthur William Holborn, born 1880, Hinton Charterhouse, Somerset
Occupation: Scholar (1861, 1871); none (1881)
Occupation of husband: Stone Quarryman (1881)
Lived in
Stoke Church Lane, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire (1861)
Upper Stoke, Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire (1871)
Hinton Green, Hinton Charterhouse, Somerset (1881)
Sources:
1871 Wilts., RG10/1923, Reg. Dis. Bradford-on-Avon, Sub. Dis. Bradford S.E., ED.8, Folio 106, Pg.13, Sch.41

Daintons from Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire

Kaye_McMillan — 2009-06-19 19:19:50Z

Hello

My name is Kaye. I believe I am related to the Daintons coming from Limpley Stoke.

My link to the Daintons comes from Ellen Dainton b 1859 married to William Holborn - her parents Alfred and Mary Ashton.

I believe our Ellen Dainton is the sister of the infamous Alfred Henry "harry" who murdered his wife.

I wanted to know if anyone out there knows about Ellen Dainton and her husband William Holborn. We know she died in 1886 and William soon after. One child was adopted out to Edward, Ellens brother, and possibly to Eliza, Ellens sister. At one stage three children were in the poor house at Bradford on Avon. They lost contact with the other two children Amy b 1884 and William b 1878. Recently thanks to the work of the Holborns we have been able to contact all the decendents of this family.

All this happened in 1886, before Alfred Harry killed his wife. Because there were already orphaned children in the family could this be the reason Alfred Harrys children were sent to Canada?

I am also wondering why did John Dainton b 1794 to Hesther Naish b 1794 go to america to marry. In 1816 Sarah Dainton, the first child of John and Hesther was born back in Limpley Stoke. So they cannot have been in America long.

I know my great grandmother Mary Jessie in 1960's used to correspond with family members in Canada. Mary Jessie moved to Australia in 1920 with her husband and two children. Does anybody out there have any information about my family?

Thanks
Kaye McMillan

Doris Gwendoline (née Morgan) Dainton

rwdainton1947 — 2009-04-17 02:36:11Z

Looking for the parents of:

Doris Gwendoline (née Morgan) Dainton (1917 - 1981)
Born 8 December 1917, Glamorganshire, Wales
GRO Birth Index Dis.Merthyr T. Vol.11a Pg.1361 Q4 1917
Parents: ……….. Morgan & ……….. Mantle
Married Victor Osmond Dainton, 1941, Glamorganshire, Wales
Died 1981 aged 64 yrs., London, England

Doris Evelyn M. (née Bartlett) Dainton

rwdainton1947 — 2009-04-17 02:33:10Z

Looking for parents of:

Doris Evelyn M. (née Bartlett) Dainton (1905 - 1984)
Born 23 May 1905, England
Married Herbert Charles Dainton, England, 1930
GRO Marriage Index Dis.Reading, Vol.2c, Pg.1068, Q3 1930
Died 1984 aged 79 yrs., Berkshire, England

Re: Location, Location, Location

rwdainton1947 — 2009-03-27 02:38:50Z

Dainton name found in Beckington, Somerset in 1500s and through till 1939.
Know of Dainton name in Bradford-on-Avon from early 1600s onwards

Location, Location, Location

RouX_Renard — 2009-01-27 15:19:36Z

Hi,

National Trust shows the locations of Daintons in 1881. Definitely looks like the family started in Wiltshire.

http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/Map2.aspx?name=DAINTON&...

regards,

RouX (best friend of Tim Dainton, Florida, USA)

DAINTON DNA?

RouX_Renard — 2009-01-27 15:17:56Z

Hi

Any Dainton males had there yDNA tested? It can be great aid to genealogy where the paper trails run out... and for finding the family's place of origin.

I'm expecting most Dainton men to be in genetic group I, which means your ancestors wore cow horns on their hats!

Can anyone prove me wrong?

regards,

RouX (best friend of Tim Dainton, Florida, USA)

Re: Dainton's in Canada

rwdainton1947 — 2009-01-27 02:36:27Z

I don't have much information on him except ......

Charles Dainton (1874 - 1963)
Born 2 July 1874, Monkton Combe, Somerset, England, UK
Parents: Valentine Dainton & Maria Embley
Died 16 July 1963, San Diego, California, USA

So I would greatly appreciate any more - thanks

regards, Robert

Re:valentine Dainton

rwdainton1947 — 2009-01-27 02:16:56Z

There's always an interest in any Dainton - it's so rare - less than 1,000 world wide - most being Australia these days

Re:valentine Dainton

goodhealth1958 — 2009-01-26 05:56:23Z

valentine Dainton was my grt grandfather I do have some records re his family if interested e /m me rosemary at goodhealth1958@hotmail.com I notice that most interest in Daintons was back in 2004 so maybe there is no one looking at this time