Ditzenberger - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Jacob Wesley and Mary MOORE DITZENBERGER, IN, mid 1800s

clanknut — 2010-09-22 14:28:52Z

I was previously confused about the identity of Jacob Wesley's youngest "children," unable to follow them through the records. The reason has now become clear, because of my realization that there were TWO census records listing them in the same year.

This information may help others.

As the Ditzenberger biography states at the Boone County Historical Society's webpage, there are actually fourteen children (not seventeen) of Jacob and Mary. There is a census record for 1870, Eagle, Boone, IN, which names Jacob as head of household and at the bottom of his household are three males, George, Charles and Conrad, whose ages dovetail so well into those of the older children that they appear to be Jacob and Mary's sons, thus...

Jac Ditzenberger 61
Mary Ditzenberger 52
Alexander Ditzenberger 14
Lewellan Ditzenberger 13
Mary Ditzenberger 11
Jonathan Ditzenberger 8
George Ditzenberger 7
Charles Ditzenberger 3
Conrad Ditzenberger 1

HOWEVER, another record for the same year, 1870, but for Center, Boone, IN shows the same three males, George, Charles and Conrad, this time residing with C.A. (Charles Augustus) and Henry, thus...

C A Ditzenbarge 35
Henry Ditzenbarge 8
George Ditzenbarge 6
Charles Ditzenbarge 4
Conrad Ditzenbarge 1

Further, the records for these four boys as sons of Charles Augustus are readily found (with the exception of Conrad), but if trying to piece together a history for any of them as sons of Jacob and Mary, there's nothing.

The three males, therefore, are grandsons of Jacob and Mary, despite the appearance as sons on the Eagle, Boone Co. census. The lack of relationship data on the 1870 census led me to the mistake, but finding the census for Center, Boone Co., set me back on the right track.

Hopefully, this will help others piecing together their Ditzenberger heritage.

Re: Ruby Ditzenberger, d 1908 OK

clanknut — 2010-09-01 16:04:32Z

Correction: A family record indicates Wesley (Jacob Wesley --the younger--Ditzenberger) died as early as 17 Apr 1908, which suggests Ruby (see post above) and Wesley died of same causes?

Ruby Ditzenberger, d 1908 OK

clanknut — 2010-09-01 15:05:25Z

Who was Ruby Ditzenberger, buried near Wesley Ditzenberger, Alva Municipal Cemetery in Alva, Woods Co., Oklahoma? Cemetery records indicate she died 13 Apr 1908.

Wesley (husband of Capatola V. Eller) died in 1909 before the birth of his daughter, Myrtle, but who was Ruby laid to rest before him?

I'm looking at the vast number of Ditzenbergers, searching for a cousin named Ruby, but haven't found a candidate for her yet. Anyone have a Ruby D., died 1908, OK?

Re: Catherine Ditzenberger

clanknut — 2010-09-01 14:58:05Z

@goodbubbles

Those links have either been removed or updated. I can tell you what I know about the Catherine Ditzenberger, daughter of Jacob Wesley Ditzenberger, who is in my lineage. I believe she has been confused with another Catherine, who died relatively young.

Catherine Ditzenberger, born 1848, died after 1930 (There are census records for her up to 1930, which you can see attached to my public family tree.) I also have a photo of her as an aged woman (probably taken at one of the Ditzenberger reunions).

Catherine's father was Jacob Wesley Ditzenberger of Germany, an immigrant. He eventually settled in Eagle, Boone, IN. He married Mary Elizabeth MOORE, mother of their seventeen children (not all who lived to maturity).

Catherine's husband was Dietrich GLANDER, and they had two children, Henry and Ada.

It is easy to become confused among the large number of Ditzenbergers, and I hope this helps.

Re: Ditzenberger

clanknut — 2010-08-31 22:24:46Z

I made my site public, but would love it if cousins would contact me to share. Thanks.

Re: Ditzenberger

clanknut — 2010-07-30 17:23:44Z

I am also a descendant of the Ditzenbergers through Henry Linguen. I have some information on the siblings of that generation, including a wonderful photograph posted to my "Sparlin Family Tree."

If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to make them a guest of my site so they can pluck information and the photo.

My great-grandfather was Wesley Jacob Ditzenberger, who died young in 1909. I have many questions about his widow, my g-grandmother, and her family. If anyone has information on Capatola Viola nee Eller born Okla territory (1887-1956) or the Nick Eller family through letters, photos, bibles, etc., I'd be very interested.

DITZENBERGER & Clara HART

slimkimak — 2009-09-29 10:52:43Z

Well lets compare notes!!! contact me at slimkim@gci.net

BTW--I've been working hard to straighten out my DITZENBERGER records.

Re: Catherine Ditzenberger

slimkimak — 2009-09-27 09:04:09Z

Here's a site to check out:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inboone/biographies/biogra...

Re: Jonathan Ditzenberger

slimkimak — 2009-09-27 08:35:20Z

Name: Jonathan DITZENBERGER
Surname: DITZENBERGER
Given Name: Jonathan
Sex: M
Birth: ABT Jul 1863 in Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, USA
Census: 7 Yrs. Old 30 Jul 1870 Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, USA
Occupation: Farm Laborer 9 Jun 1900 Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, USA
Census: 36 Yrs. Old Married 9 Jun 1900 Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, USA
Occupation: Farmer General Farm 26 Apr 1910 Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, USA
Census: 46 Yrs. Old Married 26 Apr 1910 Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, USA 1 2 3

Father: Jacob Wesley DITZENBERGER b: ABT 1809 in Ziegelhaus, Gelnhausen, Hessen-Nassau, Preussen
Mother: Catharine Marthe MADER (my info) b: 1813 or 1818 in , , Ohio, USA

Marriage 1 Laura M. b: ABT 1873 in , , Indiana, USA
Married: ABT 1886
Children
Crolia DITZENBERGER b: ABT 1903 in , , Indiana, USA
Edgar DITZENBERGER b: ABT 1905 in , , Indiana, USA
Linnie DITZENBERGER b: ABT 1907 in , , Indiana, USA
Paul DITZENBERGER b: 1908 in , , Indiana, USA

Sources:
Title: 1870 U. S. Federal Census Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana
Page: M 593 Roll 300 Page 85
Title: 1900 U. S. Federal Census Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana
Page: T 623 Roll 360 Page 97
Title: 1910 U. S. Federal Census Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana
Page: T 624 Roll 341 Page 104

Jonathan was a twin to George & there was a yonger brother, Charles born in 1867.

This is all I have for this family.

Kim
The Ross & Johnson Families
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=slimkim

Re: Catherine Ditzenberger

slimkimak — 2009-09-27 07:53:16Z

I've gone thru census records again to make sure information is as accurate as possible. Please keep checking back as I do work to keep it updated. It's difficult & challenging with such a large clan as this. ALSO my great grand aunt, Clara Elizabeth HART, married into this family, so it's a sideline for me. I can be reached at slimkim@gci.net. Thank you.

Kim
The Ross & Johnson Families
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=slimkim

Re: Catherine Ditzenberger

slimkimak — 2009-09-25 19:20:04Z

Thank you for your reply. I've been working hard on this family for 25 + years. I'm stumped on Clara & sister Mary Ellen Hart's mother Virginia. Mary Ellen is my great grandmother. Her obit shows Clara & brother Samuel survived her.

Re: Catherine Ditzenberger

slimkimak — 2009-09-25 19:12:40Z

1860 U. S. Federal Census Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, M 653 Roll 245 Page 778.

1870 U. S. Federal Census Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana, M 593 Roll 300 Page 85.

I rechecked these censuses to make sure I had everything correct. The only thing I found was that the mother/wife's name was shown as Mary & not Catherine. It could be Mary was a middle name (German's are notorious for having multiple christian names). Also, I've found many persons officially named Mary have been nicknamed (& shown in census records as) Polly. Same with Sarah as Sally/Sallie, etc. so when I saw Mary, I thought it was another name for Catherine that she used. In 1860, William Nelson was shown as William N.

Note for father Jacob: 1860 U. S. Federal Census states born in Hanault. 1870 U. S. Federal Census states born in Hesse. 1870 U. S. Federal Census Index listed as Jac DITZENBERGER.

Another habit German families had was to name multiple children with the same name if the previous child died. Makes research more challenging to find the same name with multiple birth dates! That's what I thought (& got confused over) about the 2 Conrad's.

I have marriage records for:

Francois Basilie This to Catharine Ditzenberger.

Frank M. Thies ro Clara Elizabeth Hart.

Francois Basilie This to Justine Nurdine.

John Baptiste Thomas and Amelia This.

Please feel free to contact me at slimkim@gci.net anytime.

Re: Catherine Ditzenberger

SaySayL — 2009-09-25 14:51:17Z

Thanks for your help Slimkim! I just didn't want to get my information all mixed up. Your great grand aunt Clara is my 2nd great grandmother.

Re: Catherine Ditzenberger

slimkimak — 2009-09-25 12:04:08Z

I am slimkim the author of the first tree. I got everything I know from census records that are shown on each persons individual page so everything can be verified by checking those. I also have a marriage record for Catherine DITZENBERGER & Francois Basilie THIS. Their son, Francois Martin, married my great grand aunt Clara. I also have their marriage record. Their daughter, Catherine, married John B. SCHRANTZ 14 Mar 1885 in St. Clair co. Illinois. Francois Basilie married 3 times & had 9 children that I know of. 2 with Catherine & 7 with 2nd wife Marie Rose GRENOUILLET. 3rd wife, Justine NURDINE (nee' FINLEY/FINDLEY) had children from previous marriage, but none that I know of with Francois Basilie.

Sometimes people will go with their first (or christian) names in 1 census and middle names in another. I did the best I could with what the censuses provided.

Catherine Ditzenberger

goodbubbles — 2009-09-16 13:50:42Z

I think I have confused myself. If someone could please assist me in untangling this mess in my head it would be greatly appreciated.

So, my third great grandmother is Catherine Ditzenberger. She was the first wife of Francois (Frank) Basilie This in 1863. They lived in St. Clair, IL. She passed away in 1866.

I have been searching for her family. Everything I have been able to find or have been told is that Jacob Ditzenberger is her father. When it comes to her mother is when I get confused. Instead of trying to explain it too much I am going to include links to two different trees.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...

Very similar trees but yet different. Are these supposed to be the same Jacobs? If so, how is that possible? But if not, how can there be so many coincidences? Is there some sort of information crossing here? I'm trying to figure out where I belong. Maybe I've just gone over this too many times & am confusing myself now. Can anyone help? If so, THANK YOU in advance!

Re: Ditzenberger, Velma

debditz441 — 2008-07-24 16:23:20Z

Hello, my name is Debra Helen Ditzenberger. I noticed you were looking for information on George and Millie Elizabeth Ditzenberger. They were my grandparents. Millie's maiden name was Doyle. I don't remember if my grandpa had a middle name. Millie and George had 4 boys, Robert, Charles, Roger, and Doyle. Charles was my father. He passed away in Feb 2004. I would sure love to see the photo you're talking about. You can email me anytime at debditz44@yahoo.com
Thank you, Debra

Jonathan Ditzenberger

Nandrew701 — 2007-04-23 03:55:29Z

Does anyone have a death date and burial for Jonathan Ditzenberger, Jacob and Mary's youngest child? He was married to Laura Mullendore in 1889 and then filed a petition that she was insane when he wanted to sell some land in 1892. In the same year he administered his father's estate. This is all I have on him.

Nina

Re: Ditzenberger

vrsmith1 — 2007-04-17 22:03:49Z

Your Charles Augustus Ditzenberger was brother to my gr,gr grandfather Henry Linguen Ditzenberger. Henry was born in Eagle Township, Boone, Indiana on Sept. 2, 1842.
Would love to share and see if we come up with anything new for one another.
You can email me at vrsmith1@cox.net

Re: Ditzenberger, Velma

sherriestahl1 — 2007-03-23 21:33:58Z

Hi,
I have info on Velma. Please contact me.
Sherrie Stahl
sherriestahl@comcast.net

Ditzenberger, Velma

RICKJORDAN101 — 2007-01-08 09:39:44Z

I am looking for any information on Velma Ditzenberge who married Harry Jordan in 1918 in Clark County IL and any info on Effie Ditzenberger. I am also trying to identify individuals from a photo taken in June of 1925 in Casey IL. The photo was a family picture with the Ditzenberge and Jordan Family. The photo was my Dad's (Winfred Jordan) where it was marked with the following names, George Ditzenberger, Milly Ditzenberger, Marjorie Jordan, Effie Ditzenberger, J.G. Ditzenberger, Robert Eugene Jordan, Harry Jordan, Charley Ditzenberger, Paul Ditzenberger and Gladys Ditzenberger.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Velma Ditzenberger

RICKJORDAN101 — 2007-01-08 09:08:57Z

Re: Marla or Prema Ditzenberger

the1witch232006 — 2006-12-24 07:08:55Z