Donaldson - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Patrick Donaldson, Born Ireland 1845

WinSip — 2012-05-11 22:51:44Z

I am a recent user of this site and have found lots of good info. But I am stuck trying to find information for Irish ancestor. Patrick Donaldson relocated to Scotland (no date)Married Rachel McCulloch in 1869 and I have traced all descendants to current dates. According to SR marriage cert. parents are John Donaldson and Mary McTait (last name spelling may not be correct. Any ideas on how I should proceed?

Ella Glennie Donaldson - Kinneff, Kincardinshire, Scotland

rhondacharlton — 2012-05-05 11:16:54Z

Hey - looking to see if anybody has any connections to Ella Glennie Donaldson (1924 - 1989) or her daughter Sandra Jane Charlton Donaldson (born 1944). I understand Sandra may have moved to Canada after marrying Allen Anderson in Scotland. Ella was my grandmother's cousin (Ella Smith Glennie) and Sandra was known to my family when she was young.

Many thanks

Irene Hyacinth Donaldson, age 90,daughter of the late Obed and Ethyl Hamrick.

KENNELLYMARKA — 2012-04-28 02:28:19Z

Irene Hyacinth Donaldson, age 90,
of the Conrad House,
passed away Monday, April 23, 2012 at UPMC Hamot.
She was born in Wesleyville,PA, on September 22, 1921, daughter of the late Obed and Ethyl Hamrick. Irene was a 1939 graduate of Wesleyville High School. She was a member of Wesleyville Baptist Church. She was first employed at General Electric Co. and then G.J. Miller Auto Supply. Irene volunteered at the Gertrude Barber Center and was a member of Merry Mixers, Wesleyville High Alumni, AARP, and Elderberries. She enjoyed playing cards with friends at the Conrad House and especially enjoyed family gatherings. Irene was preceded in death by her husband, John Donaldson; one brother, Edward Hamrick; and one sister, Edith P. Smith. She is survived by one daughter, Shirley I. Cline (Charles) of Harborcreek; one sister, Betty Holst of Summit Twp.; two grandchildren, Theresa Malmgren (Bob) and Kelly Vallimont; four great-grandchildren, Robert Malmgren, Jon Vallimont, Breanna and Daniel Durst; several nieces and nephews. A Private Service will be held by the family. Interment, Laurel Hill Cemetery. Memorial contributions may be made to the Conrad House Wish List Fund, 5436 E. Lake Rd., Erie, PA 16511. Arrangements are being handled by the Dusckas Funeral Home, Inc., East, 2607 Buffalo Rd., Erie, PA 16510.
( Erie Times-News on April 24, 2012)

Wesleyville Baptist Church."

Henry R. Donaldson & Addie Ceray Coleman/Ida Coleman

KManocchi — 2012-04-28 01:20:35Z

Looking for any information on Henry R Donaldson, born about 1860 in ohio, and died 26 nov 1930 in cuyahoga county, ohio. He was married to Addie Ceray Coleman/ OR Ida Coleman...??? I originally thought it was Addie, but I seen somewhere else that someone had her name as Ida, so I'm clueless. Henry is the father of my GG Grandmother, Mae(y?) Belle Donaldson, born about 1883 in North Baltimore, Wood county, Ohio.

-If anyone has any information on Henry R Donaldson, I would be so appreciative. I would LOVE to know who his parents were. Ida/Addie Coleman as well-
Thank you so much,
Kayla

DONALDSON Lynn T 1916 2008 Holy Bible

t42Restland — 2012-04-26 12:05:47Z

DONALDSON Lynn T 1916 2008 Holy Bible

DaveStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Restland Cemetery, Dallas Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,288 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Restland user submitted) and Surname.
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DONALDSON Virginia A 1919 1979 Holy Bible

t42Restland — 2012-04-25 13:49:27Z

DONALDSON Virginia A 1919 1979 Holy Bible

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Re: Donaldson ONS and NE Scotland

donaldson2k — 2012-04-20 04:15:46Z

Saw your post but it looks to be about twelve years old. I am from the states (Long Beach, CA) and have traced my family line back to Caithness, Scotland and it just stops for me. Any help would be great and I would be able to help if needed on this end. I am listing the final three that I am able to trace.

Thomas Donaldson: b abt Feb. 1835 Indiana, USA
d June 11 1900 Vincennes, Knox, Indiana, USA

George Donaldson: b abt 1800 Virginia, USA

Robert Donaldson: b 1763 Bower, Caithness, Scotland
d April 25, 1837 Jefferson, Kentucky, USA
Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Jasun Donaldson 562-500-6740

Adella May Donaldson

dishakroedmonds — 2012-03-26 13:40:11Z

After much further review and research , I have come to the conclusion that my Grandmother's correct name is Adella May Donaldson, not Adelia as I told everyone previously. She told me her name was Della May and she went by May most of the time. I got the "Adelia" from her Marriage Return that wasn't all that easy to read. I am sure the "i" was in fact an"l". So you might want to change that on your records. Sorry about that..I should have checked it more thoroughly at the time. Contact me if you have more questions. gmspplply@aol.com Thanks, Arlene

DONALDSON Robert D - Vietnam Wall section 4E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-03-20 09:46:02Z

DONALDSON Robert D - Vietnam Wall section 4E

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 225,469 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

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Donaldson - Article of Interest

jasche — 2012-03-11 01:33:20Z

If you have not seen this Ancestry Insider article you might find it enjoyable.

http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2012/03/serendipity-its-...

Male Descendant of William Donaldson of Wabasha Co MN needed for DNA

WClayton43 — 2012-03-08 13:06:58Z

Searching for a Male Donaldson Descendant of William Donaldson b.16 Feb 1805 in Canonsburg, Washington Co., PA and d.27 July 1891 in Plainview, Wabasha Co., MN and for practical purposes that means a Male Descendant of Charles W Donaldson b. 25 Nov 1841 Allegany Co PA and d. 05 Feb 1926 Wabasha Co., MN. A descendant of William’s wife Elizabeth F Biles has a Biles Family Bible that carefully recorded many of the Donaldson Vital Events. This Donaldson was in Cincinnati OH or a nearby Co. from 1850 - 1860 before moving on to MN in the early 1860’s.

I believe that a Son of this family, John B Donaldson b. 14 Jan 1837 Washington Co., PA was the John Donaldson who married Sarah Herron who had a Son James William Donaldson b.1857 and John d.1857, probably 22 Aug 1857, in Cincinnati OH. I know there were 2 male Donaldson’s, a Father and Son who were Descendants of this family alive recently in the Wabash Co Area of MN but cannot locate them. I am hoping to get one of them to agree to be a DNA test sponsor to compare to a Male Descendant of James William Donaldson. All expenses would be paid by our end of the family. The process involves in nothing more than scraping the inside of the cheek with a scraper similar to a Q-Tip and putting in a sterile vile and mailing it.

Re: Robert Donaldson or Donelson

Dona_Donaldson — 2012-03-07 14:00:06Z

This is the same line. I have her listed as Jane and another sister named Elizabeth who is married to an Unknown Noell. I got these names from an abstract of Hannah's will.
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January Court 1790,
HANNAH DONALDSON--WILL - w. 3 Aug 1789.
Son Robert to get money in John Lawson's hands and her share of the crop and part of the meat.
Her furniture and quilts were to go to her daughters
Mary,
Rachel Dickson,
Elizabeth Noell,
Hannah Breeze,
Jane Ellison, (Allison)
Cateen Archdeacon,
Sarah Wilkerson,
to grandson Barnet Donaldson, a cow and a calf, and
to grandson Thomas, a bay mare and a cow and calf.
Exec: John Lawson Sen. and his son David Lawson.
Wit: Hugh Barnett, Francis Lawson.

Thomas and Margaret are not mentioned in this will...
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But I'm certain we are talking about the same family. I will be VERY happy to help you in any way...You have already helped me by giving me the burial information for Jane. Find A Grave is a Wonderful place.
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I have the Revolutionary pension papers of Robert Donaldson, Jane's brother if you want them.

Re: Robert Donaldson or Donelson

SallyGivensBolin — 2012-03-06 18:56:41Z

Donna,
A copy of those papers would be wonderful! If you need more info on the Allison part I can send you a great link. SHe has done a phenomenal job! Do you know if Robert Sr, is related to the John Donelson that settled in TN, Davidson County? I have been trying to figure out if there is a link there. Thanks for all of your help! ALso here is my email
s.givensbolin@gmail.com

Thanks!!!
Sally

Re: Robert Donaldson or Donelson

SallyGivensBolin — 2012-03-06 14:48:34Z

Hello! I have a question. I am looking for a Robert Donelson m. Hannah, parents of Elizabeth Jane. Elizabeth is buried in Eno Presbyterian Cemetery, Orange Co, NC. She was the wife of Joseph Allison. Her dates are b. 1754 d. 11 Nov 1807. Is this the same line? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Sally Givens-Bolin

Sadie Woodruff Donaldson - old photo

MBMarion — 2012-03-04 21:50:39Z

I have an old photo, identified as "Sadie Woodruff Donaldson, mother of Evelyn Cade" - on the back, it says [very faintly], "This is a picture of my mother when she was 10 yrs. old." It's an old photo - I am not good at dating old photos, but am guessing 1880-1900? I'd love to get this into the hands of family. Please contact me if Sadie belongs to you.

Lucile F. Donaldson; Decatur Co., GA

lafayette16 — 2012-02-23 19:12:21Z

I have no idea, who my great-grandmother is who dies when my grandfather was in his teens. Her name is Lucile F. Donaldson of Decatur County Georgia

Re: Alexander Donaldson & Margaret Laird of Antrim, Ireland

DeirdreKelly51 — 2012-02-20 14:51:59Z

Hi. I'm descended from John Donaldson, son of Alexander and Margaret. It's a while since you posted your request about Alexander. Have you discovered anything further?

Alexander Donaldson & Margaret Laird of Antrim, Ireland

BBZimmerman — 2012-02-20 14:51:32Z

Looking for information on Alexander Donaldson born in 1810 in Bonneybefore, Antrim, Ireland. Married Margaret Laird in 1833. Children: John, William, Annie Nell, James, Mary Jane, Alexander, Daniel, Margaret, and Almina.

Rose Taylor Donaldson

venussmth — 2012-02-03 12:46:19Z

hello i'm also looking to do a family tree as well, and looking at a rose taylor donaldson in camden,nj one of her daughter would be an edith donaldson hughes born abt 1899. i know of some donaldson in camden. my mom is her daughter.i'm @venussmth@yahoo.com if this ring a bell.

Re: Clyde Donaldson and Johana Hogan; Murray Co. Minn

nocreek1 — 2012-02-03 05:24:49Z

Did you ever find any information about America Romine or her parents?
Sally

Re: Martha Louella Donaldson m. James Duffer

abrookes2243 — 2012-01-16 13:22:48Z

I am also descended from the Donaldson's if you are still looking for information contact me.

Adriene

Martha Louella Donaldson m. James Duffer`

RSuchey — 2012-01-16 13:22:20Z

I am looking for any information on my Donaldson side. My Great Grandmother was Martha Louella Donaldson (she married James Duffer), Daughter of Matthew N. Donaldson. I believe he was born in 1844 in Tenn.

Re: Willie Donaldson

Ldollison_1 — 2012-01-04 03:16:24Z

ok since my last post i found out alot of information on him. Tuskegee alabama. his parents were john and frances donaldson. he had over 15 sibblings. but his father had a previous wife which whom was the bestfriend of frances. her name was emily. it was here dying death wish for John to marry her. anyways willie donaldson died in arkansas. some of his children name were willie donaldson jr., blanche donaldson, willie bee donaldson, and roosevelt donaldson. His wife name was Emma green donaldson.

Re: Willie Donaldson

mebateman1 — 2012-01-03 06:25:50Z

Who was his wife. The names and dates of their children? I need more info to track him down. When and where did he die?

Re: Donaldson from UK

yvonnesfrancis — 2011-12-30 20:52:54Z

hi i,m looking for a mark donaldson born in london 1963 dont suppose this is you by any chance, thanks.

Re: Clyde Donaldson and Johana Hogan; Murray Co. Minn

1_krystyne41 — 2011-12-13 05:08:28Z

Hi! I think I replied to something else you posted on another site as well :) My name is Krystyne, maiden name Donaldson :) My Dad is Thomas Donaldson, son of Gale (sometimes spelled incorrectly on ancestry as Gayle). He passed away in 1974 and was married to Corinne Cotton. His father is Charles (Chas), son of Clyde who passed away at 35. It looks as though Johana raised the kids on her own until she married a Lewis? Chas was just 4 or 5 and I think Johana was pregnant when Clyde passed. I have very little documentation...I'm just digging. ;) I think I am on the right track though...and have been saving some items I find on here. Charles (Chas)'s middle name WAS Clyde when he was born....but at some point, he starts coming up as Charles p. Not sure what the P stands for, and if it's a typo, or somewhere along the line she changed his name. I would love to have whatever you have! I am making a gift for my father. Since his Dad, Gale, passes away at a young age...my dad was barely 20, he doesn't have a lot of history. Thanks!

Re: Clyde Donaldson and Johana Hogan; Murray Co. Minn

nocreek1 — 2011-12-13 01:05:33Z

First who is your father related to?

I have not gone to Scotland to find more information on William and Isabella as yet. I still have a great deal to find on the family here in the US. But I do have pictures of both William and Isabella if you would care to have a copy send me your email as I have never been able to attach any thing on this site.

Also will send you a complete list of people I have that go back to William and Isabella.

Sarah Winckeman

Re: Clyde Donaldson and Johana Hogan; Murray Co. Minn

1_krystyne41 — 2011-12-12 09:19:19Z

I have been tracking from my father as far up as I can go, and I am deadlocked at William and Isabella? I think I am accrate so far, but would LOVE to see anything anyone else has :) I am working on a gift for my father.

Henry R Donaldson & Addie Ceray Coleman

jmanocchi1 — 2011-12-01 02:25:11Z

Looking for info on Henry R Donaldson born about 1860 in Ohio, and died about 1930 in Ohio. He married Addie Ceray Coleman, born about 1862 in Ohio and died about 1922 in Ohio.

I cannot find anything on either of them. If anyone has any information on them, I would greatly appreciate it!!! Thank you!

Re: Donaldson of L.A.

jasche — 2011-11-26 13:43:00Z

For anyone to help you we first need more information from you such as given names, surnames, birth/death/marriage dates (no info on living people please.)

L. A. is that Los Angeles?

Please ask specific questions about what information you need.

Donaldson of L.A.

mincraft_god — 2011-11-26 13:39:35Z

hello i am a donaldson based out of L.A. i want to know my family history and other donaldsons please reply

sinceraly jakob brennen donaldson

Re: Clyde Donaldson and Johana Hogan; Murray Co. Minn

nocreek1 — 2011-11-22 12:16:27Z

If you are still looking for Donaldson/Hogan I have a great deal of information on the family. John and America are my third great grandparents and Clyde is my second.
Nocreek1

Clyde Donaldson and Johana Hogan; Murray Co. Minn

Lynn_Mordhorst — 2011-11-22 12:16:02Z

Searching for any of this family....clyde married Johana Hogan and had these Children,.Richard ay,.Grace,.Charles,.Margaret,.Frances. Clyde died young...his parents were John and America Donaldson......thanks tons

William Jefferson Donaldson Photo Available

jessicado22 — 2011-10-03 04:20:28Z

I purchased a photo of William at a local antique store (Eugene, OR). William (1861-1949) was born and died in Ogle County, Illinois. His parents were James Donaldson and Locada Jenks "Kate" Seavey.

I purchased this photo with many other Polo, Illinois photos, mainly of the Mekeel family -- so William might be related to this family as well.

I am not related, if you are and would like the original cabinet photo--just let me know!

Re: Patrick Donaldson from Scotland 1640 - 1700's (John Donaldson)

ddonaldson99 — 2011-09-25 16:58:20Z

I should have more information on Patrick Donaldson in October this year. He is my 9th G-Grandfather through his grandson, Col. John Donelson(Donaldson). I have recently submitted DNA to the Clan Donald DNA Research Project, and they have given me two dates for two different test results. The dates are 10/7, and 10/21, with a 3 or 4 day variation for for those results. My email is ddonaldson99@yahoo.com if you care to correspond with me.

Sincerely,
David E Donaldson
Florida

Re: DONALDSON, County Derry, Ireland, Early 1800's

swn610 — 2011-09-24 23:34:45Z

No. I know he returned in 1859 just to get married but quickly returned to America, but I know nothing about his life before he got married.

What do you have on him? Thanks!

Re: DONALDSON, County Derry, Ireland, Early 1800's

Ibamydonaldson — 2011-09-24 22:53:03Z

I have the same grandfather. Have you had any luck finding out about about his early life ?

Re: James W. Donaldson - Cincinnati, Ohio - Link Correction

WClayton43 — 2011-09-19 18:07:52Z

Error. Wrong Tree it is
edclgenealogy2
Knapp-Ryan-Donaldson-Arrigo
or
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=edclgenea...

Re: James W. Donaldson - Cincinnati, Ohio

jasche — 2011-09-19 11:11:12Z

To make it a bit easier to find the WorldConnect family tree here a link directly to the GEDCOM.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=Edclgenea...

Re: James W. Donaldson - Cincinnati, Ohio

WClayton43 — 2011-09-18 22:23:29Z

Rev1
James William Donaldson b.5 Feb 1857 and d.6Feb1912 is the GGrandfather of my wife. He is listed in several Ancestry Trees. I have unsuccessfully tried to unravel this confusing family for several years. James W was married abt 1878 to an Anna Hellen “Ella” Blanks. James W was apparently the son of John Donaldson and Sarah Herron. Sarah was born 20 Mar 1834 Baltimore, Warren Co., IN and d.26 Dec 1917. Ella was born May 1860 KY and d.29 June 1924 OH. John Donaldson apparently died 1856-1860 in Cincinnati or Newport KY. Various records related to John, James William, Sarah and Ellen are very confusing and quite different depending on which Burial record or Death Certificate of which person or their children is paid the most attention to. Ellen has been given as Ellen Blanks or McGowan in various burial records, but the Blanks seems to be the correct one. Sarah has been listed as Harn or Hern in various records, but if you review carefully the 1850 Census record of John Rheinhart in Cincinnati and the 1860 Census of Susan Rinehart in Cincinnati and put that with the marriage in 16 may 1850, Hamilton Co OH you can add up the complexity and get to the correct answers I started with. Another Ancestry member and a Descendant of James William Donaldson, Jr had some family notes left by her Mother that helped greatly. However the most perplexing factor is not being able to find the Family of Ella Blanks in 1860 or 1870.
There is an 1830 Census record of John Herron in Fountain Co IN (where Baltimore is located) 2 M<5, 1 M5-9, 1 M30-39, 1 F 5-9, 1 F 20-29. Perfect fit for John, Susan & Sarah.
The Children of James W and Ella are:
Mayme Donaldson (1881-1935) married Walter Edward "Chuck" Maley. 2 known children.
James William Donaldson (1884-1968) married Clara L Pfahler. 5 known Children.
Charles Robert "Curley" Donaldson (1887-1916) married Jeanette Snider. 1 known Son.
Anna Laura Donaldson (1892-1961) married 1)Edward Mark 2) Robert Marvin “Cress” Hoop.
Johnson Meyer Donaldson (1894-1969) married Josephine Marie "Dutch" Arrigo. 3 Surviving children (my wife’s line)
There was also I stillborn (or son who survived less than 1 day) Donaldson 1882 and a son Franklin that died before 1900.
Sources and additional info on Dates can be found by
RootsWeb
Go to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
Select WorldConnect Project Main Page Link on the left
In the “jump to a specific database” on the left in the box enter
Edclgenealogy1
Select name of interest
You may have to register the first time you visit RootsWeb, but there is absolutely no downside to doing so.

S. Donaldson / Donaldsons...Coffee Co.,Ala

2011-09-18 16:38:28Z

Looking for any info on S.Donadlson (s)
Married Fannie Harper,Bowdoin 2-20-1890
Coffee Co. Elba,Alabama. THANKS
email bowdoin@ispchannel.com

Re: JAMES & EDITH Donaldson family- Minnesota/Iowa

geraldnichols13 — 2011-09-12 20:48:19Z

I am Gerald Nichols, James and Edith are my grandparents.
I am the son of Dorothy Donaldson Nichols.
My phone no. is 406-449-8735.

DONALDSON Everette L - Vietnam Wall section 1E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-09-05 18:28:48Z

DONALDSON Everette L - Vietnam Wall section 1E

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 222,447 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: DONALDSON / COFFEE CO.ALA

kldw194 — 2011-08-28 18:56:56Z

My grandmother was Mary Nell Donaldson. Her father was Cary Deam Donaldson. His Father was John Donaldson. John Donaldson is the son of WH and Octavia. Hope this helps!

Margaret Donaldson/McArthur Monument Pic from Stirling

clddbd — 2011-08-28 08:35:13Z

In July 2011 I was fortunate to visit The Church of the Holy Rude right below Stirling Castle in Stirling, Scotland. It is a beautiful cemetery and is where I took this picture. I hope someone finds it meaningful to their family.
Cheryl

Isabella Donaldson/Reid Monument Pic from Kinross

clddbd — 2011-08-22 04:24:23Z

In July 2011 I visited THe Church of Scotland-Kinross Parish in Kinross, Scotland and took this picture. I hope someone finds it to be meaningful to their family.
Cheryl

William Donaldson & Catherine McFarlane of Muthill

sdftrace1 — 2011-08-17 19:00:15Z

Seeking information on Catherine McFarlane b1823, Belfast, who married William Donaldson b1820. They lived in Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland, from 1843, and had nine children. Their twin daughters Mary and Jane were born in 1852 - any information on Mary & Jane would be appreciated. thank you.

JAMES & EDITH Donaldson family- Minnesota/Iowa

Krabykn — 2011-08-14 08:17:58Z

I recently joined Ancestry looking for any further information on my great grandmother, LEONA DONALDSON (Heaton). She was daughter to JAMES and EDITH (KENDALL) DONALDSON of Decorah,IA/Rochester, MN. She had a sister named DOROTHY (married name NICHOLS at some point) who is still living, last I knew it was in Winona, MN.

I never knew Leona existed until years after my grandmother (Katherine, Leona's only child) passed away. My grandmother never spoke of her mother or anything concerning her childhood. After searching endlessly, the only facts I've learned of Leona are her birth date and when she died.

I'm desperately seeking any Donaldson family members linked to Leona who can tell me anything about her. From my understanding there are very sad circumstances surrounding her, hence why she was always kept a secret. I feel compelled to find out all I possibly can about her. Please help! -Kristin (krabykn@hotmail.com)

Agnes Donaldson/Laing. Monument Pic from Kinross

clddbd — 2011-08-14 07:44:16Z

In July 2011 I was visiting the Church of Scotland- Kinross Parish in Kinross Scotland and took this picture of a monument. I hope that someone finds it meaningful to their family
Cheryl

Margaret Donaldson/Peter Clark. Monument Pic from Melrose

clddbd — 2011-08-08 05:07:59Z

I was at Melrose Abbey, Melrose, Scotland, in July 2011. I took a picture of this monument. I hope someone finds it meaningful to them.

Cheryl