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Re: James McVinnie

wendy19488 — 2011-09-04 21:08:06Z

I too am descended from James McVinnie and Margaret Smith. Their daughter Agnes (James's older sister) was my great great grandmother. She moved down to Birmingham where she married William Douglas from Kirkcowan in Wigtownshire. Has anyone traced the McVinnie line further back? I can share a bit more information if you are interested.

Re: James McVinnie

christine15704 — 2011-07-12 08:18:52Z

I am descended from Martha McVinnie. She married another scottish man, who had "emigrated" down to Liverpool, his name is Walter Grieve. They lived in Liverpool, Walter was in the Liverpool Police. Did you know that Agnes had an elder daughter called Emily, born in the Union workhouse in 1900 and died aged 2. John Rylance was not the father listed on the birth cert - there wasnt one mentioned. It took some finding, I can say, as when Agnes married, she was registered as Mac Vinnie, rather that McVinnie. Interestingly when Emily died in 1902, after Agnes married John, she listed the name on the death cert as Emily McVinney Rylance. So maybe she was illiterate. Hope this isnt too shocking for you. Do you have any family stories about Agnes? Any photos etc? Martha McVinnie Grieve was a very kind person and as they were well off locally, made bread and gave food to her neighbours. But was very discrete, and would deliver food to the needy via the back alleys, so no one would see her. Obviously, all this changed after the police strike...
Hope to hear back from you.
Christine
I would love to hear about anything.

Re: James McVinnie

kevmccann1 — 2011-07-11 17:55:58Z

Hi Christine

I am related through one of James daughters - Agnes who married John Rylance. I had traced James' father James McVinnie born 1811 Borgue but did not know Margaret's surname. Which daughter are you related from?

Kevin

Re: James McVinnie

christine15704 — 2011-07-07 08:33:13Z

I know it is a long time since you posted your message, but I am a direct descendant of James McVinnie, who moved to Halstead Hall and consequently his parents, James b. 1811 Borgue and, I have, Margaret Smith b 1814 New Abbey. James married Martha Jump in Whiston and had 11 children, I am descended from one of his daughters.

Re: James McVinnie

swingkidrecords — 2011-05-12 01:15:45Z

I had a Joseph McVinnie from Dumfries in my family born 1861 and married Isabella Stewart. I've attached a picture of the headstone in a parish in Dumfries. hope this helps anyone?

Chris - swingkidrecords@gmail.com

Re: James McVinnie

KevMcCann7 — 2008-09-03 15:29:50Z

Hi Marc,

Only just got around to looking at your email.

I believe my ancestor James McVinnie had an older brother Joseph McVinnie who born 1845 in Lochrutton, Kirkcudbrightshire, Dumfries, Scotland.
Could this be your Joseph? If so they had father James b.1811 Borgue and mother Margret b.1814 New Abbey (both Kirkcudbrightshire).

Joseph appears on the 1851 Census
1851
Name: McVINNIE , Joseph
Address: Barlea(875)
Parish: Lochrutton
Relationship: son of James McVinnie
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Age: 6
Born: born Lochrutton Kbt
Household No: 1/35

You are correct in thinking the name in quite uncommon around Lancs and across the UK as well.

My James moved from Scotland to Lancashire to work on the estate of the Willis Family at Halsnead Hall.

Hope this is useful? Give me a shout if you need anything else.

Cheers

Kev

Re: James McVinnie

mjh1257 — 2008-08-16 20:22:29Z

Hi Kev, I'm also researching my McVinney roots. Seems like I had a Joshua McVinney (GG GF) born in Devon but moved to Leigh, Lancs presumably for the mines. His father was Joseph McVinney born in Scotland, but living in Devon when Joshua was born. The census records vary the name to either McVinney or McVenie so its tough tracking people down. i'm assuming that there aren't that many McV's in Lancs? Cheers, Marc

MAXWELLTOWN - HOLIDAY/MAXWELL surnames

kimbarlow97 — 2007-09-03 00:00:39Z

Hi List,

Is there anyone out there who is connected to a JAMES MAXWELL natural son of THOMAS MAXWELL and MARY HOLIDAY
born Sept 2, 1768. I believe in Irongray Parish, I would love to hear from you, I am 7th generation decendant to him.

Thank you
Kim in
Ontario, CANADA at jennill@cogeco.ca

William Bell, died 1886 Dumfries aged 44

RobynCostley48 — 2007-01-28 04:05:15Z

no. 317
William Bell, commercial traveller, single
died 21 October 1886 at 8:45 pm
? Royal Irish.... [or possibly Infirmary??]
male aged 44 years
Stricture of Urethra [etc]
Informant: Wm Davie, Ward Attendant
registered 25 Oct 1886 at Dumfries

James Cowan died 1886 Dumfries

RobynCostley48 — 2007-01-28 04:03:16Z

no. 316
James Cowan
occ: Roads.....
(widower of the? Agnes Wilson and (2) ???
died 24th October 1886 ??? Dumfries Infirmary
Usual residence Courcey House, Hutton ? C.... [Cornie?]
male aged 64 yrs
son of Robert Cowan, weaver, dec'd and Barbara Cowan m.s. [blank]
Informant: Robert Cowan, son (? ?)
Reg 25 Oct 1886 at Dumfries

Re: Hightae

2006-12-05 02:12:25Z

Have noticed same peculiarity in some parishes of SW Scotland. Is it possible christenings of male and female children were registered seperately and LDS has missed some registers?

McCOURTIE, McCOURTY, McLACHLAN, McDONALD

rwelch115 — 2006-11-24 21:30:00Z

I'm still searching for John McCourtie, born ca. 1746 probably in Kirkcudbrightshire; married December 23, 1773, probably in Dumfriesshire according to their family Bible. John died September 10, 1814 in Halfmoon Town (now Clifton Park Town), Saratoga County, New York and was buried in Clifton Park Center Baptist Church Cemetery, Clifton Park Town "in his 69th year". His wife was Jane McLachlan [spelled Jeannie McClawcline in the family Bible] . She was born ca. 1745/1746 in Scotland and died May 18, 1812 in Halfmoon Town (now Clifton Park Town), Saratoga County, New York "in her 67th year". The Bible was last seen in 1908 with a family in Schenectady, New York.

John and Jane McCourtie had three children: Peggy (born in Scotland in 1774); William (born 1776 in Scotland or New York State); and James (my ancestor, born 1777 in New York State).

John McCourtie's will mentions his "sister-in-law" Jane McDonald who also lived in New York State, but I have found no other information about her.

Richard Welch

Hightae

2006-11-21 11:05:44Z

HELLO,

CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE IGI FOR THIS AREA ONLY SEEMS TO REVEAL FEMALE BIRTHS. I KNOW THAT RECORDS ONLY GIVE WHAT HAS BEEN ENTERED; BUT UIS THERE ANY UNDERLYING REASON?
I AM ALSO KEEN TO ESTABLISH IF THERE WERE ANY MINING/SMELTING INDUSTRY IN THE AREA OF GRAITNEY/HIGHTAE/LOCHMABEN IN THE 1700s

Genealogy of Cornelius Daley and Ancestors

TamaraMecham — 2005-12-05 06:23:43Z

I am looking for any information on the parents if Cornelius Daley born at Upper Conudet Dumfries, Scotland. Birth date around 1765 - Death date around 1783

Re: James McVinnie

christine15704 — 2005-10-27 12:05:51Z

my g.g. grandfather is James McVinnie, living in whiston 1870's born in Dumfrees.I have sent email to you re details please get in touch

Re: Huguenot graves in Dumfries

brooke_foothill — 2005-10-16 05:59:56Z

Hi, Diane
While I can't respond with info re your request, I do have some info regarding the McJunkin surname. My mother was a McJunkin and told me we are Scots Irish. Her McJunkin ancestors trace back to County Down, Ireland.They settled in Pennsylvania, U.S. in the late 1700s. I always enjoy reading about other McJunkin descendants and wish you luck in your search.
Brooke

Miller & Balfour

balf112 — 2005-07-04 10:25:04Z

Searching for any information regarding James Miller (distiller) & Mary Miller (nee Lindsay) who had a daughter Ann Lindsay Miller in 1829 in Lochmaben,Dumfries.Ann Lindsay Miller married John Robertson Balfour on 09/07/1848 and had two children (James & Mary),they then emigrated to Melbourne,Australia from Liverpool on 22nd August 1853.Any information on any of these people would be greatly appreciated and I will happily exchange information on their descendants.Andrew Balfour,Glengarry,Victoria,Australia.

Cowan/Farish

liddeebee_1 — 2005-03-10 21:01:26Z

Re: kirk session records

2004-08-22 20:17:33Z

Hi Robin
I have quite a bit of information regarding the McKnight family going back to mid 1700's. I have sent you a separate e-mail. If you have not received it please contact me at watson@h3hrw.fsnet.co.uk and I will try again. Look forward to exchanging information with you.
Best wishes
Linda

Re: kirk session records

2004-08-20 22:45:38Z

In reviewing the post message dated May 21 2002, I realize that the John Mcknight and Catherine Grierson are my great great great grandparents. I have a document which is dated 1918 from a Scottish law firm which lists their children and their decendants as inheritors of the estate of their son Archibald and daughter Jane. Andrew and his decendants are among the recipients of the estate. Their son John was my great great grandfather. The family lived at South Glen farm as shown in the 1841 Buittle census. John's son Dougald was my great grandfather and Dougald's son William was my grandfather. My father is named Hugh Dougald Mcknight and he is 86 years old and lives in the greater Vancouver area. I would be interested if Linda Watson has any other information on the family.

Kennedy - Fishmongers, Butchers in Dumfries

fionak2009 — 2004-07-16 13:05:05Z

Hi,
I am interested in hearing from anyone who has grandparents who were born in Dumfries, with a connection to Menzies and Kennedy. Menzies being a first or second name, not a surname. Kennedy is the surname.
Anyone related to these people -
John Kennedy born abt 1900
James Menzies Kennedy born 5/12/1897
William Kennedy born abt 1894
Robert Kennedy born abt 1891
Their parents - William Kennedy and Christina Moffat married 20/12/1890 in Dumfries
ALSO
Mary C Kennedy born abt 1900
Robert James Kennedy abt 1896
John Menzies Kennedy born 11/12/1890
Their parents - Robert James Kennedy and Sarah Ryan married 11/6/1890 in Galashiels, Selkirkshire
William and Robert were both butchers and are cousins, their father are brothers and they were Fish Merchants.
Would love to hear from anyone who thinks they have a connection to these names.
Fiona

James McVinnie

2004-07-11 21:26:51Z

Hello,

I have just discovered my GGG Grandfather, James McVinnie,was scottish and on the 1901 Census down here in Lancashire his birthplace is listed as 'Dumfrees, Scotland'. He was born approx 1847-1849.

Not a lot to go on I know but if anyone can help out I would be very grateful. Here's hoping...

Kev McCann

Huguenot graves in Dumfries

Benue — 2004-04-27 16:40:43Z

Hello to all from the US!

I got a bit of a gem in my family research this morning regarding Huguenot (French Protestant) Graves in a cemetery in Dumfries. I do not know how many cemeteries there are in Dumfries.

My maiden surname is Junk. My grandfather claimed that the name of Junk is Scot-Irish and that it was once McJunkin, then McJunk, then Junk. Preposterious, I though, Junk is a German name.

Well, years later I started tracing my family roots and found that my immigrant ancestor did indeed come from County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, being born there in 1790 and that he was Presbyterian. Then I found a James Junk that was deported from Leath, Scotland in 1685, for being a Covenanter, and landed in Perth Amboy, New Jersey, USA.

How did the surname of Junk wind up in Scotland? It is a very uncommon name in Scotland, Ireland, and in the US. Then a Junk from Northern Ireland told me that his line can be traced to the French Huguenots.

The logical question then is how did French Huguenots wind up in Scotland in the 1600's and what is the tie between the Huguenots and the Presbyterians?

Over this past weekend I learned that Knox studied under Calvin in Switzerland in the 1500's. My understanding is, and correct me please if I am in error, that Knox is considered the founder of Presbyterianism in Scotland, and Calvin was the spearhead of the French Huguenot Protestant people during the Reformation in Europe.

Looking at the map of the Alsace and Lorraine area of France, I noticed many German names, and Geneva, Switzerland is very close by.

My query and humble request is: If any that subscribe to this mailing list and live in Dumfries, Scotland and have been to any of the cemeteries or cemetery, and have noticed any unusual names of Covenanters or Huguenots could you please jot down what you see and kindly email me?

Bless you!
Sincerely, Diane Junk Riley

McBurnies of Tinwald

2003-12-16 23:08:45Z

Has anyone got a list of McBurnie familys or names that Lived in or around Tinwald. Im looking for parents and siblings of John McBurnie b:1800. The only referance I have is on his marriage certificate. it states ( John McBurnie Of Tinwald payed 5 shillings ) to get married to Ann Irving in 1824
in Maxwellington. any help would be appriciated. thank you

dickson family of dumfries

2003-06-09 17:37:48Z

looking for information on the dickson family originally of Dumfries. Joseph Dickson born about 1632, his father Simon born about 1607. The family eventually moved to Dromore County Down Northern Ireland.

Richardson Dalziel Mitchel Paterson Kelly Mcvinnie

chumrichardson — 2002-11-03 22:20:37Z

William Richardson a miller at Parton Mill married Margaret Tod Dalziel father John Dalziel mother Margaret Mitchel.In 1852 the family came to Wellington County,Ontario,Canada.In 1861 Canada census family was listed as FC.Margaret had younger brothers and sisters.Robert Dalziel married Betsey Elisabeth Mcvinnie.Isabela Dalziel married Edward Paterson.Dorthea Dalziel married Maxwell Kelly.
Chum

kirk session records

2002-05-21 20:15:58Z

I found the description by Sandy of Kirk Session Records very helpful.I am sure like many others new to family history and not researching from Scotland any help given is greatly appreciated.

When I started aprox 2 years ago I visited Irongray churchyard -and call it beginers luck - I discovered the headstone of my ggg grandfather James Mcknight ( wife Sarah Smith) I also took details of two other headstones near by - my gggg granfather Dougald Mcknight ( wife Mary
Milligan) and I believe his grandson Andrew Mcknight (wife Elizabeth Smith). I have recently obtained the death certificate for Andrew and as I hoped it states that his father was Andrew Mcknight , but it also states that he was illegitimate and his mother is given as Agnes Caven. I understand that this was the type of issue which would have been given attention and minuted in the records. -iis there anyway that I can find out if and for what periods such records may have been deposited at Edinburgh prior to a visit?

The book listing Monumental Inscriptions also shows that my other ggg granparents John Mcknight & Catherine Grierson also have a headstone at Irongray although I failed to see this on my visit. I would very much like to purchase the book by Moira Aitken as it sounds as though it may give further information on this part of my family. I didn't receive a list of publications with my last DGFHS newsletter and I have been unable to trace it on the website. Can you please confirm the title and weight in order that I may order it by post.

Thankyou

kirk session records

2002-05-21 20:15:53Z

LATTIMER /LORRAINE/NAYSMITH Surname

2002-04-21 19:09:46Z

Joseph James LATTIMER b:abt 1837 ?Kirkpatrick-Fleming DUM Scotland. m:1861 Kirkpatrick-Fleming to Jemima LORRAINE b:abt 1840, d:1874 West Silloth CUM. Father: William LATTIMER Mother: unknown
children: William b:1862 Kirkpatrick DUM, Ada b:1867, Mary b:1869, Maggie b:1871 & Walter b:1873 m: Ann M NOWALL. born West Silloth CUM
Joseph James LATTIMER m: 1875 West Derby LAN England to Martha NAYSMITH b:1841-2 ?Carlisle CUM or Scotland d:1908
children: Robert b:1876, Annie E b:1881 & Joseph James LATTIMER jr, b:1885 Wigton Holme Lowe West Silloth CUM
Joseph James sr d:1909
Two of the daughters married John McGEE & Robert MARTIN
If there is any connection to these names, please let me know.

Margaret

Mcknight/ Milligan

2002-04-01 21:26:01Z

Dougald Mcknight married Mary Milligan at Balterson, Holywood, Dumfries Dec 7 1786.

Johnnie Dumfries

2000-11-29 04:05:58Z

I want to find out the title the former racing car driver, Johnnie Dumfries, had.

Can anyone help?

Thanks