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Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

dvinem41 — 2012-05-23 09:54:24Z

thanks Raewyn
email is
michelle.downie@bigpond.com
that would be great thanx so much

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

raewynk66 — 2012-05-23 07:49:18Z

if you want I can email you some of the family details I have so far that I have on a spreadsheet.

Re: Firman Family Bible

pennyfurman — 2012-05-22 15:32:58Z

Maybe that is why i can't seem to put parents to my great great great grandfather. Maybe our last name was also Farman. George R. Furman shows being born in NY but I can't seem to find a city where he was born, and no parents mentioned. There could be a connection there.

Re: Firman Family Bible

1_FarmanBrooke — 2012-05-22 01:35:45Z

I am looking for Charles M. Furman, a Civil War veteran from New York. Found his picture years ago (still looking for a connection) and he is the spitting image of my brother, Lawrence Lee Farman (yes, Farman); we were both born at Niagara Falls, NY & raised in Norristown, PA. I remember hearing our name had been changed but don't what it was originally. I was born in 1932 so I heard that many, many years ago. And oh yes, I have a niece, Larry's daughter whose maiden name was Penny Farman. The picture of Charles is so much like Larry that even people we grew up with thought it was him. Any clue who this gentleman was and how we might be related?

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

raewynk66 — 2012-05-21 06:34:56Z

the captain was the captain of the whaling ship Alexander was on before disembarking in Australia. Don't know the name of the ship or the captain. I heard either he or his father were in the French Navy, but it's not confirmed. Yes Sybil had about eight siblings I think. The photos I have are of my great grandparents, Alexander & Sarah's son Leonard and his wife Kate Spring. I still gotta visit my mum's cousin in Christchurch who I think has more photos of the family. Once I get a scanner, I hope to scan them onto harddrive if she is okay with this. Her sister in Australia has said she'll send me some more information and family pics when she can. So I'm waiting. In NZ we have a cenataph database we can access. I found my mum's uncle on it, who died as a prisoner of war in Greece. Thanx, I'll try Trove too. I live in Auckland, NZ. How about you? cheers Raewyn

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

dvinem41 — 2012-05-21 04:29:35Z

Which was the captain that suicided? Did Sybil have more brothers an sisters? cant wait to see if yr family has photos an info. My mum remembers Sybil an Georges son Leslie gordon Firman and his wife Alice May Sandwidth. They are my dads grand parents.Dont have any photos though. Photos are gold. was Alexander in the navy if i had something more maybe i could find more about him. In Australia there is a free site called National Archives of Australia, you search as a guest and there is a huge amount of info and milatery record immagration records. Do you have a site like this in NZ? also another free web site is Trove, its all newspapers printed in Australia, I put in my great great great grandmothers name an up pops a photo i nearly fell of my chair. great site
take care Michelle

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

raewynk66 — 2012-05-19 11:40:18Z

Yep, you must've found him, but I don't think he was the captain, but maybe he contributed after the captain suicided. We still don't know the name of the ship yet. Yes, it's extraordinary. Very kool to find you. My mum's cousin Hassanah is searching too and she has shared a lot with me so far. She has been very generous, and has been at it much longer than me. I am available on raewynk66@hotmail.com I could have a look and forward you any pics I find. I have some old family photos, but I'm not sure who some of them are. I need to spend some time with my Aunties and Uncles, and Mum's cousins who remember who they are. I'm gonna get a scanner soon so I can scan and upload to the family tree when I work out how to do it, and so I can give/email to family. One of my young cousin's is also interested in her whakapapa (ancestry).
I tried contacting Bronwyn, but I've not heard anything back from her yet.
kind regards Raewyn

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

dvinem41 — 2012-05-19 10:44:29Z

Hi Raewyn,
Sybil was 79 when she died in 1944, in Malvern Victoria australia. Her and her husband George Walter Firman had a busy life owning pubs, guest houses, and George was also a councillor for Kilmore council and he was on the Publicans council. Bronwyn never made contact with me as she posted her post back in 2002, so i dont if shes related to me. Im thinking that you are though how extrodinary, we come together on ancestry.com I joined a year ago and im absolutly addicted so be very careful what u wish for lol.
So Im guessing Iv found the french sea captain? or mariner, Im thinking if he was a captain, what country? was he in the navy? we should be able to find those records pretty easy. All milatary records are open in Australia, not sure if every country is like this. There are some things I cant access on ancestry as I have the basic package. However i have found heaps of info on my family, with over 400 people in my tree. So my great great grandmothers father is your great great grandfather? yes? Do you have any photos of them? so many questions I could ask u....
im so glad u made contact, this is fabulous..
take care Michelle

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

raewynk66 — 2012-05-18 08:51:05Z

Kia ora Michelle

Do you know how old Sybil was when she died? I'm not a full member of Ancestry yet, so I can't seem to access your family tree. I am working out if I can afford to join.

kind regards Raewyn

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

raewynk66 — 2012-05-17 19:21:38Z

Kia ora Michelle
So good I managed to make contact. I've seen your posts on message boards. YOu are right... I was getting mixed up with ALexander's son also named Alexander.
I've not found Sybil's birth certificate yet. THere's a rumour she may have been born in Picton (Marlborough, NZ). Other children Sarah had on her own when Alexander was working on remote sheep stations in Canterbury.
Alexander was placed under the care of a whaling ship captain from maybe 7-9yrs old and may have left from New Brunswick, Canada. He was listed as Mariner on their marriage certificate. He disembarked in Australia (not sure where yet).

The name is french. Alexander's father was said to have been smuggled out of France as a 7yo and we have no idea when he made it to Canada. We don't yet know his name, and his mother may have come from Nova Scotia.

THank you for your goodwill. I'm new at this family history and have had mixed results searching. Is Bronwyn Firman a relative of yours? I've seen both of your names when I've googled Sybil Jane Firman. What was Inverary? We heard that is where Alexander died when he and Sarah were visiting Sybil. I have both his marriage and death certificate so far.

Very kool to hear from you! cheers Raewyn

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

dvinem41 — 2012-05-17 10:37:48Z

Hi Raewyn,
Sybil Jane Grey married George Walter Firman, they are my great great grand parents. Sybil was Georges second wife. I dont know what happened to her and I have not found any children from them. Sybil and George married in 1889 and they had 3 children Violet Ellesmere born 1890 died 1974, Leslie Gordon born 1892 died 1960, Myra Selwyn born 1893 died 1929. I have Sybil with parents of Alex Gray and Sara Ann Wright who married in Sydney in 1862. You are saying Sybil is a sister to Alexander, I dont think this is right as Sybil was born 3 years after Alex and Sara's wedding. Although some familes had many children decades apart. Im very interested in the spelling you say is "de Greis" were does this name come from? as my father always said a french sea captain was in our family but Im yet to find him. My father is no longer alive to enlighten me futher but family rumours usually turn out part true. You can look at my family tree as its public its the Firman family tree. Maybe Im wrong with Sybils parents as I do not have Sybils birth certificate. I have some fabulous phots of a pub they owned in Ballarat called "The Carlyon Hotel" and a guest house in Toorak called "Tashinny guest house" anything else I can help you with just ask
kind regards Michelle Firman

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

raewynk66 — 2012-05-17 08:16:38Z

Are you able to help me with finding out more about Sybil Jane Firman nee Grey (correct spelling is Gray)? She is sister to my great, great grandfather Alexander Gray (was de Greis) and Sarah Ann Wright his wife. They were married in an Elizabeth street church in Sydney in 1862 before emigrating to New Zealand in the same year.

kind regards

Raewyn Knowles

Re: finding information on william g firman

dazbuy123 — 2012-02-23 05:45:18Z

Hi, I am not particularly tracing family trees as I believe mine hits a brick wall pretty quick, but I was looking for someone else and came across your question.

Anyway, to the point. My father was William Geroge Firman as was his grandfather whom he was named after and in between there was a Henry Charles Firman - my grandfather. Maybe there is a link

Re: OBIT for LINDA A FIRMAN-SZABO daughter of DON & LEE FIRMAN

janet00001 — 2011-10-13 04:58:14Z

I was a friend of Linda's through my ex-husband, Kevin Sieg. I also was friends with her through my sister, Jenny Zimmer (Bellware). Tony Szabo and my son, Kurt Sieg were friends when they were kids, and even shared a playpen (old school term) around 1982. I may have encouraged Linda to become a nurse, something I now regret. I didn't go to Linda's funeral, something I also regret. I was VERY angry at her. She had a daughter and son to raise. Her daughter was very young, and Tony needed her alot. However, I am now 51 yrs. old and on some days, understand how she may have felt. Getting older for a beautiful woman is not easy, but there's much to be said for passing the torch to our peers and family. They have much to learn from us.

William Edwin Firman 1832 New York

WarrenFirman — 2011-09-17 19:11:05Z

I am trying to find the parents of William Edwin Firman. On different census forms he claimed to be from NY, Connecticut, and Maine. He was in the US Navy from 1854 - 1857. He then went to Maryland and and married Margaret Elizabeth Rogers. They moved to Portsmouth, VA and had a family. He died in Portsmouth in 1888. Any leads on a William from these three states would be welcome.

Re: Bible property of Benjamin Wise Firman

cosmith23 — 2011-09-03 01:03:33Z

Penny, we tried contacting Libby but she doesn't seem to know about it. If you are successful in locating the bible, I would greatly appreciate the information.

I would like to collaborate with you if possible, I am also doing heavy research (for a book project regarding the civil war service of Benjamin Wise Firman).

I look forward to hearing from you! :)
J. Firman

Re: Benjamin Wise Firman

cosmith23 — 2011-09-03 01:00:00Z

I am also of the Benjamin Wise line and came across your post- would love to swap information on him and his service in the Civil war and at Shiloh.

Re: Where are the Australian Firmans???????

dvinem41 — 2011-09-01 02:36:46Z

Hi Bronwyn, this is a long shot as u posted this in 2002 an its now 2011. Im am a direct descended of Thomas And Catherine(Pitt)Firman. They are my 3rd great grand parents. One of there children George Walter Firman who married Sybil Jane Grey. I have many records in this line and even records of Thomas's conviction transportation and pardon, but I dont have info on Catherine Pitt. Was she a convict too? I believe shes from Dublin Ireland what do you know of her?
kind regards Michelle Firman

Giles and Josias Firmin from Suffolk, England, Winthrop Fleet

pennyfurman — 2011-08-17 08:32:31Z

Hi: My name is Penny Furman and it is possible I am a direct descendant of Giles Firmin who came over here with the Winthrop Fleet in 1630. If your Josias is the same Josias that lived in Warwick, Orange Co, NY then we would be related. If it is not, then I just did some research for you and hope it will fill you in on some information. Even if Josias isn't our grandparent, we are still probably related through one of the other males who came over here at that time.

This is what I have found:

John b. 1498 /Agnes Moulton Firmin b. 1495 Suffolk, England

s. Giles Firmin b. 1520 Suffolk(shire), England

m. Martha Doggett

s. Josias b. 1560 Suffolk, England

d. Elizabeth

Passengers with the Winthrop Fleet who arrived in 1630 include:

Elizabeth Firmin

Benjamin

Catherine

Giles m. Katherine Ives

John m. Agnes Moulton

Josias

Judith

Martha Dogett Firmin

Mary

Warren

I am not sure if the wives names are correct for Giles as I also show a relationship between him and Martha Doggett Firmin who was on the ship also.

Re: Bible property of Benjamin Wise Firman

pennyfurman — 2011-08-17 08:27:29Z

Has anybody claimed this Bible yet?

Re: Firman Family Bible

pennyfurman — 2011-08-17 08:20:03Z

I am from this family. My family migrated from the east to Rochelle, Il, ND, NE and WI. If you would share that information with me I would love it. My email is pfurman5165@yahoo.com
I have traced my family to the Winthrop fleet if this is correct. Will love to see your information. Penny Furman

Re: Firman/Winthrop Fleet

pennyfurman — 2011-08-17 08:14:10Z

The information I have on the Firmin family on the Winthrop fleet is followed below. My name is Penny Furman and it is possible that I am a direct descendant of Giles and Josias Firmin from Suffolk, England.

If your Josias is the same Josias that lived in Warwick, Orange Co, NY then we would be related. This is what I have found:

John Firmin b. 1498 Suffolk, England /m. Agnes Moulton Firmin b. 1495 Suffolk, England

s. Giles Firmin b. 1520 Suffolk(shire), England

m. Martha Doggett

s. Josias b. 1560 Suffolk, England

d. Elizabeth

Passengers with the Winthrop Fleet who arrived in 1630 include:

Elizabeth Firmin

Benjamin

Catherine

Giles m. Katherine Ives

John m. Agnes Moulton

Josias

Judith

Martha Dogett Firmin

Mary

Warren

I am not sure if the wives names are correct for Giles as I also show a relationship between him and Martha Doggett Firmin who was on the ship also.

I sure hope this helps you out.

Many years ago I started a family search and would give up and then start again and go through this time after time. I have finally dedicated myself to a family tree and have traced myself back this far if all is correct. My great great great grandfather was George R Furman (Ferman, Firmin) who married Martha Smith. He was born in Connecticut? and died in Warwick, Orange Co, NY. My side of the family Harvey Everett Furman) migrated to Rochelle, IL and his children migrated to SD, NE, WI and the rest stayed in Rochelle.

Hope to hear back from you to find out if we are related.

Re: Bible property of Benjamin Wise Firman

1_Rebb — 2011-07-31 17:04:45Z

I would like to know more about this bible. Benjamin Wise Firman was my great great grandfather. Vern Firman was my grandfather, his great grand father was Benjamin Wise Firman.
Please email me at rebb@pollenranch.com

Thank you, Rebb Firman

Re: boy and seperate girl adopted Sara Mayo Hospita, NewOrleans,LA

ericmessner — 2011-03-30 14:56:59Z

Tim Firman-

I worked with your father at Spaulding Printers in Manchester, NH in the 1970's.
I knew both your mother and father very well. Please e-mail
me if you would like more information.

Eric Messner

Re: What happened to convict Maria Firman in Australia

carolfirman — 2011-01-15 15:23:57Z

Hi bodori, Sorry no knowledge of any of those names in my tree so far.

Re: What happened to convict Maria Firman in Australia

bodori — 2011-01-14 20:48:20Z

Would you happen to have any information about the Abraham Stephen Thomas Firman family (dob 30 Jan 1854, Belfast, Port Fairy, Victoria, Australia)? I'm trying to confirm that Ellen Victoria Firman (Brady) (Gilbert) is his daughter. Abraham S. T. Firman is the son of Abraham Firman and Anne (Locke) Firman. Any information would be appreciated.

Re: What happened to convict Maria Firman in Australia

carolfirman — 2011-01-07 10:43:41Z

Hi Stephen, Haven't come across either of those names yet in connection with my Firman family but will bear them in mind as I continue researching.

Re: Firman's from Port Fairy and vicinity

bodori — 2011-01-06 01:18:48Z

Hello. No, I'm sorry I don't have any information. I just recently made the connection for my grandmother Ellen Victoria Firman to Abraham S T Firman/ Mary Burris family. I'm fairly certain (but not 100%) certain these are her parents. I don't have any information about her family, but would like more. We do know that one of her sisters had a [female] friend who was Syrian (Lebanese). This friend had brothers, one of whom Ellen married either in Australia or in Canada. Last name of the Lebanese family was Brady or possibly "Braidy". Would you have any information that would support that?

Re: What happened to convict Maria Firman in Australia

stevenfirman1 — 2011-01-04 11:01:41Z

I don't know, but is she related to Abraham Firman of Warnambool? Or Anne Firman Lock remarried Harris?

Re: Firman's from Port Fairy and vicinity

stevenfirman1 — 2011-01-04 10:57:34Z

Hi, do you have any info re Firman's in Warnambool. Am particulary interested in Anne Firman Lock who married an Abraham Firman(remarried?) to a Harris.
thanks
Steven Firman

Firman's from Port Fairy and vicinity

bodori — 2010-12-23 06:20:20Z

Believe my grandmother Ellen Victoria Firman (aka: Nellie) from area between Port Fairy and Melbourne. DOB anywhere from 1882-1888. Emigrated to Canada and then US. Any information about family connect there would be appreciated. Believe she was from family of 7-8 children.

finding information on william g firman

vintagechic8 — 2010-07-03 18:15:51Z

Hello
I am looking for information on my great grandad william george firman. he was married to violet l pullen and he in the 13th/18 hussars. his father was george firman who was a crane engineer. i am seeking out any information especially williams mother. can anyone help?

Fayette Firman/Ferman

ElizabethSmith10 — 2010-03-16 13:51:29Z

Looking for anyone who is connected to Fayette Ferman/Firman. He married my great-grandfather's sister, Elizabeth, had two daughters, Alberta and Myrtle, then vanished.

Re: boy and seperate girl adopted Sara Mayo Hospita, NewOrleans,LA

franzuk — 2009-11-07 03:48:51Z

Hi,

I am looking for Tim Firman who used to live in Manchester, NH in the mid 1990's. We were friends and lost touch when I moved to Western MA about 98. Back then I was known as David or Dovid Zuk.

I am hoping this is the same Tim and that you check this site once in a while.

Peace

Re: Firman and Emma L Hinds

sissyagis — 2009-10-10 20:23:56Z

Could you please send me a copy of Firman Hind's obituary? I could not obtain the copy from your website you sent. You can send it to my email at

sissy_agnes@yahoo.com

Thank you in advance,.........Linda

Re: Firman and Emma L Hinds

sissyagis — 2009-10-10 20:19:52Z

Our William M Hinds was born in New Jersey about 1838/1840. His parents were David and Hannah (Norman) Hinds both of New Jersey. They moved to Santa Cruz, CA about 1860, where the parents remained. Contact me and let's compare notes.

sissy_agnes@yahoo.com.

Re: Firman and Emma L Hinds

JeanetteHutchins — 2009-10-06 22:01:50Z

William M Hinds was my great great great grandfather. I have come to a stop on him. I know nothing of his parents or siblings, but i do have all the info from my line up to him. You are welcome to check out my tree.

Thanks,
Jeanette Hinds-Hutchins

Re: Firman and Emma L Hinds

JeanetteHutchins — 2009-10-06 21:56:39Z

I am looking for william m Hinds. I have come to a stop. I have only found one cencus for him in 1920 living in decator co in, with his son David g. Hinds. If we take a peek at each others trees maybe we can get some kind of usrful info.

Thanks
Jeanette

Re: Firman and Emma L Hinds

sissyagis — 2009-08-27 23:37:08Z

Any help greatly appreciated. Do you know anything about Edgar's family? His grandparents were Hannah (Norman)and David Hinds. Hannah was born in NJ and David in NY. Their children were all born in NJ before going to Callifornia:
Mary Elizabeth
William M
Samuel N
Andrew R
Peter R
John
Firman
Lucretia G

Re: Firman and Emma L Hinds

M_AGGIE — 2009-08-11 19:39:37Z

Hi Linda,
Regarding Clara English who married Edgar Hinds. Clara's mother was Jennie Shaffner. Jennie's father was Mathias Shaffner b 1810 in Hagerstown, MD a brother to my direct ancestor George Shaffner b 1806 in Hagerstown, MD.
If you interested in the Shaffner family send me a message at
suzanne.shaffner@gmail.com

Charles S. Firman

johnwhitaker_1 — 2009-08-06 18:34:58Z

Son of Alfred and Laura (Hubbell) Firman. Married to Mariette Byer. B: 05 Feb 1836; D: 02 Jan 1920, Burlington Flats, Otsego Co., NY. Looking for birthplace record (somewhere in NY).

Emma Ellen Firman of Dallas, TX 1934

drbrownlee — 2009-03-31 23:48:26Z

Emma is pictured in the 1934 Oak, yearbook of Oak Cliff High School. She is a senior. I'm not kin but thought this might help another researcher.

Re: Who was Peter Firman's wife Hannah 1795-1826

davidfirman — 2008-11-23 21:53:08Z

Carol
I am fairly certain that my Peter Firman (who married Hannah Hurrell) was baptised on the 15th May 1773 at Ixworth. His parents were Peter Firman Baptised 11 April 1742 Ixworth and Mary Debenham. Please post a further message if you think I am wrong.

Re: Who was Peter Firman's wife Hannah 1795-1826

carolfirman — 2008-11-23 21:14:50Z

Thinking further, as my Peter born in 1795, could we be taling about another generation back with David's Peter and Hannah?

Re: Who was Peter Firman's wife Hannah 1795-1826

carolfirman — 2008-11-23 21:06:02Z

Wow! Thanks, David. That's really got me thinking re second wife but Bardwell is dead right for the family's base. Back to the drawing board!

Re: Who was Peter Firman's wife Hannah 1795-1826

davidfirman — 2008-11-23 20:15:14Z

I have Peter's wife as Hannah Hurrell who he married on 20th September 1795 Ixworth. The had at least 12 children including my gg grandfather Henry born 1808 who married Hannah Orves. After Hannah Hurrell's death Peter married Elizabeth Wright on the 14th June 1827 at Bardwell.

Hilary Firman

Aurelie_Firman — 2008-11-17 21:14:05Z

Looking for the descendants of Hilary Firman who was born in Austria (Galicia) and who emigrated to NY Ellis Island on Jan 3, 1912.

What happened to convict Maria Firman in Australia

carolfirman — 2008-10-26 17:52:14Z

Maria Firman b.1820 Fakenham Magna, Suffolk, England(Parents Peter & Hannah firman) was sentenced to 7 years
transportation to Australia, arr. 1840. Where did she go thereafter?

Who was Peter Firman's wife Hannah 1795-1826

carolfirman — 2008-10-26 17:48:20Z

Peter, b.1795 had William b.1814 and Maria b.1820 and possibly Mary b.1817 with Hannah. All in Fakenham Magna, Suffolk, England. He married Mary Wiseman in 1826 and had a later clutch of children but who was Hannah? Have found christening records of their children but nothing re Hannah's birth, marriage or death. Any clues?

Who was Peter Firman's wife Hannah 1795-1826

carolfirman — 2008-10-26 17:48:18Z