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Re: Lucinda Fivekiller

Biologygirl82 — 2012-03-27 05:32:51Z

Hello all! My name is Rosalinda. Robert Flesher, son of William Flesher was my grandfather. My mother remembered her...spoke of her. From what I understand she wasn't a good person. My grandfather told me that she killed his sister when she was an infant. Anyhow, I'm glad to see family on here. Please contact me if you wish. I can connect you with other family members who have more information on Lucinda. Lillulu1202@yahoo.com

Ava Bias-Fivekiller

bevymoore1 — 2011-11-12 04:35:18Z

We are looking for some of our family, S. Watie & Ava (Bias) Fivekiller. Ava was a sister to my grandfather, Gideon Sylvester Bias, Jr. Watie & Ava are now both deceased, as well as my grandfather. But, we are looking for the children now. E-mail me at bevymoore@hotmail.com. Thanks, Bevy (Bice) Moore

Re: Jennie Fivekiller m. William Mosely West

cjw5166 — 2010-01-17 21:44:33Z

I have a picture of Mattie West and her Daughter. Is there information we can exchange??/

Re: Susie Fiverkiller

timsgirl8896 — 2009-11-23 19:52:59Z

I am Susie's great neice and I'm taking over her research of our family tree. I have a lot of her research and notes in my possession, but some it was thrown out when she passed. I'll be happy to correspond and share whatever information I can find.

Re: Fivekiller surname

cjohnson1374 — 2009-04-09 19:57:30Z

Polly Fivekiller was born at Cherokee Nation East about 1798. She was ws on the Trail of Tears and ended up in Cherokee Nation West / Indian Territory and died about 1859. She married Byron Boynton. She is on the Drennon Roll - 1839 arrival Fort Gibson.

Polly was my great-great-grandmother. She had one child, Josephine, who married Charles Johnson. One of their children was Frederick W. O. Johnson, my grandfather. Josephine was buried in Nowata, OK.

Carl Johnson

Susie Fiverkiller

bob2653 — 2009-02-20 19:32:51Z

For those who corresponded with Susie, here is her obituary notice as posted in the Muskogee Phoenix on 10 Oct 2007 http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/obituaries/local_story_283012...

October 10, 2007 01:21 am

Susie Fivekiller Stout
1939-2007

Susie Fivekiller Stout, 68, longtime Vian resident passed away Monday, October 8, 2007 in a Muskogee hospital. A native of Tahlequah she was born January 19, 1939 to Leonard D. Fivekiller and Lona(Potter) Fivekiller. She grew up at Porum where she began her education. She was married to Wayne Stout on April 24, 1964 in Meridian, Mississippi and made their home in California and many other states as Wayne served his country with the United States Navy. She continued her education in California earning her business degree. They made their home in Vian in the early 1970’s and Susie began working for the B.I.A. Muskogee Regional Hospital, and finally for the Muskogee Police Department where she retired after ten years as a record clerk. Her hobbies included Painting, Piano, and loved geneology. She was a longtime member of the Blackgum Baptist Church, the Art Guild, as well as the Kiwanis Kickers Dance Club.

She is survived by her husband, Wayne Stout of the home; two daughters, Cathy Rae Hammonds of Vian, Sherry Gaye Wolf of Stilwell; 8 grandchildren, Michelle Hulbert, Tonya Forrest, Therresa Hammonds, Thomas Boss, Leonard Boss, Sherry Vanderpool, Justin Eaton, and Terri Hammonds; 16 great grandchildren; her mother, Lona Harper of Briartown; five sisters, Marjorie Goin of Warner, Ruth Goodner of Porum, Erma Sexton and husband, Bill of Briartown, Avo Fivekiller of Briartown, Kay Hughes and husband, Jerry of Briartown; one brother, Burt Shoemake and wife, Elanor of Philomoth, OR; a brother-in-law, Bill Goodner of Lawton. She is preceded in death by a son, Darryl Stout; her father, Leonard Fivekiller; a sister, Betty Goodner; a great granddaughter, Kassie Forrest.

Funeral services will be 1:00 P.M. Thursday, October 11, 2007 at the Blackgum Baptist Church with Reverend Bob Shoemake and Reverend Dale Ritter officiating. Burial will follow at Coleman Cemetery under the direction of King & Shearwood Funeral Home of Stigler.

Re: Lucinda Fivekiller

bpbright — 2008-01-04 03:00:57Z

Lucinda is my husbands great great grandmother also her daughter Nora married James Edward Bright and their son William James Bright is my husbands Grandfather. I have quite a bit of info if you would like to contact me at bpbright@tds.net

Re: Lucinda Fivekiller

ky8ztz — 2007-10-29 00:44:53Z

I believe we would be cousins by the umptenth degree. Call me please. Tomorrow before 08:30 mountain time. I have a lienage document I can fax to you.

Jerry C. Quintana
ky8ztz@msn.com

Re: Lucinda Fivekiller

ky8ztz — 2007-10-29 00:36:32Z

Lucinda would have been my great great grandmother. My great grandmother was viola bright, her daughter. My grandmother was ethel bright. I am trying to establish a family tree as well. I understand grand mother viola bright had a sister named nora fletcher who has done all the research necessary to establish our lienage to the cherokee nation for benifits. She is asking $50.00 for the published book. How to get a hold of her? I do not know. Maybee the BIA has her address. I found uncle Dick's daughter's, grandmother viola's son, who lives in Pueblo, Colorado. Her name is Debbie. Several last names but I do not know how to get a hold of her. If you have any luck getting anywhere with this subject, please contact me at 719-536-9457.

Jerry C. Quintana

Re: Polly Fivekiller m. Byron Boynton

MThoeni2002 — 2006-07-17 03:53:02Z

Please, can you provide more information about the McDade connection. I am trying to research the parents of Schooler Cobb. Schooler is the father of Absalom McDade 'Mack' Cobb and John Ramsey Cobb. See the McDade family page at
http://mcdade.bravepages.com

Polly Fivekiller m. Byron Boynton

GEORGECOBB1 — 2005-08-10 23:17:08Z

MY FATHER IS MARVIN LEROY COBB,G/F IS WILLIAM MCDADE COBB,GG/F IS ABSALOM MCDADE COBB,GGG/F IS SCHOOLER COBB,GGGG/F IS CHARLES JOHNSON,THEN BYRON BOYNTON & POLLY FIVEKILLER THIS WHAT MY GRANDFATHER WOULD TELL ME WHEN I WAS GROWING UP,I LIVE IN CHICHASHA,OK.405-574-4906

Re: Fivekiller surname, Tooka

2005-07-06 03:31:35Z

I heard it from one of my friends that is Choctaw, and I asked my teacher about it and she told me that in Appachie a rough translation is medicine water or water medicine. I'm still trying to get the real tanslation.

brian

Re: Fivekiller surname, Tooka

2005-07-06 00:07:13Z

I am sorry, I don't know the meaning of Tooka. My grandmother, Susie, named her daughter Tooka, they both died before I was born. How did you find the meaning of Medicine Water? That sounds interesting.

Re: Fivekiller surname, Tooka

2005-07-05 19:57:29Z

If you could or would send me the meaning of Tooka? I'm Bob's nephew and I named my daughter after my great gandmother Tooka. From what I have been able to get so far on it, it means Medacine water, or some thing similar. I can be contacted at bmelson@yahoo.com. Brian

Re: Bertas and Marjorie Fivekiller

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:41:05Z

Yes, I think I am getting this right. They are my siblings and Murray's are our cousins. Who are you and where are you?

Re: Jackson Fivekiller

khallman157 — 2005-06-14 01:40:16Z

Suzie, Hi. Thanks. My mother and I have just started doing some family research, so yes, I have do have a lot of Cherokee history still to learn. I happen to be social scientist, however, and much of my professional research is in settings (mainly Africa) where having multiple wives is quite common. That possibility occured to me immediately re. Jackson, but I didn't want to mention iniditally so as not offend. Regards, Kelly

Re: Jackson Fivekiller

2005-06-14 01:39:55Z

Hi, thanks for replying so quickly. Some of the family may know more about that side of the family than I do. You should know some of the Cherokee History that way you would understand more about your relatives. I am not being criticle, please don't think that. Way back in the old Cherokee Nation and even here in Indian Territory the men could have more than one wife although that was done away with in the mid 1800's I think. Anyway I don't know when he married the wives or when some of them died so I assume he may have had more than one at a time. It was illegal after a certain time, but how can a man say, "you are not my wife anymore just because the law said he could't". I have some documents that tell about Nellie and Lucinda. I will send you an email and we can decide what to do. I would like to meet you sometime. I live in Vian, OK.

Re: Jackson Fivekiller

khallman157 — 2005-06-14 01:39:36Z

Dear Suzie, Hi. I am thrilled to hear from you. Thank you for getting back to me. Yes, I am an ancestor of Jackson and Nellie through Lucinda. Lucinda married Robert Burns Flesher. One of Lucinda sons, Wm. Hiram Flesher, was my great grandfather. Can you tell me more about Jackson and Nellie if possible. Why did Jackson have 4 wives? Were there deaths and/divorces? Do you have any idea where Jack and/or Nellie are buried? Do you know anything about where Nellie came from? Any info about Lucinda would be very welcomed too. My email is khallman@popcouncil.org. THANK YOU. Maybe I could contact you at some point. Also, I come to OK on a regular basis.

Re: Jackson Fivekiller

2005-06-14 01:39:11Z

Jackson Fivekiller had 4 wives, Nellie Love, Lizzie, Rachel, and Jennie Beaver. Daughters: Lucinda, Louisa, Catherine. Sons: Joseph, Rufus, Samuel. As far as Jackson's birthdate I have not found any reference to it. He did come over the trail. Samuel's wife was Martha. Are you related to the Love's? I hope this helps. I don't know much about posting messages so I don't know if Idid this right.

Jackson Fivekiller

khallman157 — 2005-06-14 01:37:55Z

I am looking for information on Jackson Fivekiller. Did he marry a Nellie Love? Both born in the 1820s and came over on Trail. Did they have a daughter named Lucinda (or Martha)? Thanks.

Jennie Fivekiller m. William Mosely West

2005-06-14 01:37:11Z

I have found that Martha (called Mittie) was the daughter of Jennie Fivekiller who married a William Mosely West. I have a little information on Mittie but not much. Could this be the woman you were talking about?

Re: Matty Fivekiller m. Bill Edgin, OK

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:35:50Z

You have told me just enough to get my curiosity and interest going strong. Our people were from Oklahoma after the trail of tears. Do you know much of her family history? Where are you? I am in Vian, OK. Tell me more. E mail fivekiller59@yahoo.com

Re: Matty Fivekiller m. Bill Edgin, OK

2005-06-14 01:35:26Z

I beleive she was from Oklahoma. That was her birth name. She was married to my grandfather, Bill Edgin.

Re: Matty Fivekiller

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:34:53Z

Larry, where did Matty Fivekiller live? Is that her married name?

Re: Polly Fivekiller m. Mose Holt

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:33:17Z

I would like to exchange information on the Fivekiller's. I don't know anything about Polly other than that she was a sister to Jackson Fivekiller and I thought they came on the trail of tears. How can we get together?

Re: Polly Fivekiller m. Mose Holt

2005-06-14 01:32:55Z

Okay. Now we are getting somewhere! Maybe we can share some information? I know my mother-in-law, Iva Dreadfulwater, has a lot of information that she has given me. She will be really interested in any information you can provide us. I am not to the point of putting a lot of this together yet due to the amount of information that she has given me to research, but this is a great start! Thank You!!

Re: Polly Fivekiller m. Mose Holt

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:32:28Z

Polly Fivekiller was my gr gr grandfather, Jackson Fivekiller's sister.

Polly Fivekiller m. Mose Holt

2005-06-14 01:32:03Z

I am writing in regards to my mother-in-law, Iva Dreadfulwater Price. Her mother, Emma Bark, is the daughter of Robert Bark and Nancy Diana Holt. Nancy is the daughter of Mose Holt and Polly Fivekiller. Could Polly be any relation to you?

Re: Bertas and Marjorie Fivekiller

2005-06-14 01:30:30Z

Bert and Marjorie Fivekiller are my siblings. I am not doing this right. Email me at fivekiller59@yahoo.com

Bertas and Marjorie Fivekiller

suzy3911 — 2005-06-14 01:29:50Z

Hi Susie, I have a copy of a newspaper that list a Bertas and Marjorie Fivekiller as being cousin to the Murray family. Ring any bells?

Re: Fivekiller surname

2005-06-14 01:29:05Z

I don't know the meaning of the name Tooka. I can check with someone though. Susie Fivekiller is my grandmother. Tooka was my dad's sister. Will you be so kind as to fill me in on your family. The Fivekiller name is not common here in Oklahoma. I am not very good with this message board either.

Re: Fivekiller surname

2005-06-14 01:28:47Z

My ancestry goes back to the Fivekiller family in Eastern Cherokee Nation, Tennessee. In my research I found a Tooka Fivekiller and a Susie Fivekiller both buried in the Groves Cemetery, McIntosh Co. OK. The had been moved from Eufaula when the Lake was filled. I am trying to find the origin of the name Tooka since my maternal grandmother was named Tooka. Do you have any connection to the Tooka Fivekiller and/or meaning of the name Tooka. Thanks for any info you may have. Bob

Re: Fivekiller surname

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:28:31Z

Thanks for replying. I can be reached at susie_stout@hotmail.com or fivekiller59@yahoo.com I live in Vian, OK. There is not much I have found out about some of our decendents. I am excited about hearing from you.

Matty Fivekiller

2005-06-14 01:27:34Z

My grandmother was Matty Fivekiller. She was half Cherokee.
Her father, my great grandfather, married a german girl and
was kicked off the reservation. At least that's the story I
have heard handed down. Does this sound like
anything anyone else has heard?

Fivekiller surname

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:26:07Z

I am looking for information on the Fivekiller family. I will welcome any information. Thanks.

Re: Fivekiller surname

2005-06-14 01:25:47Z

Hello there Susie, Email me at ........wranglergal2@hotmail.com I would like to know wich ones we are related to that might be the same. send me your address soon I have some more places you might not have found yet.....The Cherokee connection is a good place to find info ,,Kim :)

Re: Lucinda Fivekiller m. Robert Burns Flesher

susiefivekiller — 2005-06-14 01:24:49Z

Ms Shaw, I would like to hear more from you but I couldn't figure out how to reply to you direct. Please contact me. Thanks for replying.

Lucinda Fivekiller m. Robert Burns Flesher

2005-06-14 01:24:20Z

Hello , I am a great grand daughter of Lucinda Fivekiller,Her husband was Robert Burns Flesher .There son William H. Flesher, was my grandfather, and he and his sister Ethel arent listed under her children for some reason,only his sister Nora Blaine and her spouse and children are listed. My great grandmother was born July 4th 1864 at Webbers Falls,Indian Territory,Oklahoma.

Lucinda Fivekiller

khallman157 — 2004-10-04 03:13:51Z

I am a great, great granddaughter of Lucinda Fivekiller and am looking for more info on her. She married Robert B. Flesher around 1887. Their son Wm. H Flesher was my great grandfather. Both are on the Dawes Rolls. I have a note from Larry Flesher's geneology site saying she was orphaned at a young age and her aunt helped her sign up for the Dawes rolls. Lucinda's parents were supposed to be named Nellie Love and Jackson Fivekiller and apparently came over the the Trail as kids (born 1826 and 1820, respectively). Can you help me? khallman@popcouncil.org

Re: Polly Fivekiller

2003-10-18 06:04:13Z

Hello. Still researching same families. Seems as though two of us claim decent from Polly Fivekiller. I think my Polly's brother was Jackson. Email me please at fivekiller@comcast.net

Re: Polly Fivekiller

TulsaCity123 — 2002-06-24 13:36:30Z

About all I know about Polly is that she was the sister of my great great grandfather Jackson Fivekiller. Do you have information on any of the "old" family? I would like to know more about Polly. Do you have pictures? Where do you live? I live in Vian, OK Thanks for the input.

Re: Polly Fivekiller

2002-01-09 00:32:56Z

Polly was my great great grand father's sister. Do you have any information on the family? I would appreciate any info you can furnish. Thanks

Polly Fivekiller

2002-01-06 23:26:34Z

O Si Yo! Polly Fivekiller is my GGG Grandmother. She came over the trail in 1839. She married Bryan Boynton. They only had one daughter that I know of, named Josephine Boynton. She married a Johnson, and there after was know as josephine Johnson. They had several children together, one named Lillie Etta Johnson, my great GM. (apparently he had a family with another woman, too) She married Absalom McDade Cobb. They were known as Birdie and Mack. They had several children including my Grandfather William McDade Cobb. Josephine lived in Tahlequah, then Skiatook then Nowata. The Cobb-Keyes cemetary is named after Mack, who also had a twin (the Cobb Boys). Josephine is burried in Nowata and so are Mack and Birdie. Birdie lived in Bartlesville for a time. Any information anyone has...please share with me. Contact me at Bealslu@law.unm.edu
WADO!