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Re: family bible of William and Janet Frater, of Scotland

KerryWales — 2012-03-19 21:28:15Z

I have found a Sheila Fox who I think is descended from William and Jannet, and is doing family history. I have emailed her a link to this forum. I have also found a John FRATER from the same area to see if he is descended as well.

Sheila has done work that is tying up separate branches in my own research.

Regards

Kerry (Frater)

Re: family bible of William and Janet Frater, of Scotland

cap6241 — 2012-03-19 15:59:46Z

Thank you for forwarding my message!

Re: family bible of William and Janet Frater, of Scotland

KerryWales — 2012-03-19 15:41:03Z

I am checking my lists for someone who has been working on this branch of the family tree.

I have emailed one to see if they are linked to William and Jannet.

Regards

Kerry

Re: family bible of William and Janet Frater, of Scotland

KerryWales — 2012-03-19 15:23:33Z

Looks as though this will be

1 Jan 1844 FRATER William Jannet Smith FR816 M Langholm 839/00 0003

At least it is a starting point

Re: family bible of William and Janet Frater, of Scotland

cap6241 — 2012-03-19 14:43:50Z

This family appears on 1861-1891 Scotland census, in Town: Galashiels; County: Selkirkshire. Janet is Head of Household in 1901. It appears that they lived in the USA for only a short time, while William and Helen were born.

William Frater, born Langholm, Dumfriesshire.

The names and dates in the family bible:

Registry
Of the family of William and Janet Frater

William Frater Born 27th August 1844
Died 4th June 1849

Robert Frater Born 14th July 1846

James J. Frater Born 8th August 1850
Died 11th August 1852

William Frater Born 12th November 1852

Helen Frater Born 6th December 1855

Margaret Frater Born 21st December 1857

Annie Frater Born 9th August 1860

Mary Frater Born 11th September 1862

John Frater Born 21st December 1844 [note: possible transcription error - perhaps 1864, not 1844]

Alexander McGregor Baillie Born 25th August 1855

Re: family bible of William and Janet Frater, of Scotland

KerryWales — 2012-03-19 14:20:46Z

Bit of a tough one. William is a very popular name along with the other ones used. Robert Frater (in the more popular parts of Scotland where FRATER's lived) is less so. But if the tradition was held that Robert would be Janet's Father.

If William was born circa 1822 I have two that might match in my lists.

26 Nov 1837 FRATER WILLIAM JANET FLOCKHART/FR5820 M EDINBURGH 685/01 0065

1 Jan 1844 FRATER WILLIAM JANNET SMITH/FR816 M LANGHOLM 839/00 0003

I have a WIlliam, son of William where William Snr (b circa 1808 in Scotland) and migrated to New York, but I think he married an American.

I presume the first William died as the middle child was also William and born in the US. Can you give an indication of the birth years of William and/or Helen. I am trying to work out when they left Scotland.

My indexes do not show a William, Robert or James born to a WIlliam & Janet. But there are so many gaps in there.

I also checked my lists to see if a William married a Margaret (presuming tradition of 1st born boy and 2nd born girl) but I have none within a sensible date range.

Are there any references to an area of Scotland?

Kerry

family bible of William and Janet Frater, of Scotland

cap6241 — 2012-03-19 12:41:35Z

If anyone is interested in the family bible of
William (born circa 1822) and Janet Frater, of Scotland, please contact me.

The Frater names (and birth dates) listed are for:
William, Robert, James J., William, Helen, Margaret, Annie, Mary, John.

The two middle children (William, Helen) were born in Pennsylvania, USA.

Helen's son, Christopher Boyd, is also mentioned, as is Helen's second husband, Alexander McGregor Baillie.

Helen (died 1936) and Alexander (died 1923) are buried in Concord, Massachusetts, USA.

Hopefully this bible can be returned to the Frater family.

Betty Frater Frye - Newark, Ohio

Lace_Lynch — 2011-12-06 14:15:50Z

NEWARK: Mrs. Betty Frye died Sunday, December 4, 2011 at the Selma Markowitz Care Center operated by hospice of Central Ohio.

Mrs. Frye was born November 13, 1923 in Newark, Ohio to the late Alexander and Mary (Rohan) Frater.

Mrs. Frye was a member of Blessed Sacrament Church. She was a homemaker and enjoyed cooking, reading and watching old movies.

She is survived by her niece, Mary (Milo) Bullock,Jr. of Glenford, Ohio, great nephew, Milo (Kristina) Bullock, III, great-great nephew, Milo Bullock ,IV all of Glenford. Extended family, Carla Sargent of Newark, Savannah Collins and family of Newark, Shawn Sargent and son, Kendra Woltz, Marge Willey, Molly Stiles and son all of Glenford. Special friends, Nathan Ronan, Drew Ronan, Lora Copperrider and Andrew, Sharon Kappes all of Newark, Pat Locke of Hanover.

In addition to her parents she was preceded in death by her husband, William G. Frye; brothers, William Frater, Robert (Inez) Frater and cousin, Janie Meckley.

A funeral service for Betty Frye, 88 of Newark will be held Wednesday December 7, 2011 at 11:00 a.m. in the Newark Chapel of Vensil & Chute Funeral Home with Rev. William J. Rauch officiating.
Burial will be in Cedar Hill Cemetery, Neark, Ohio.

Calling hours will be observed Tuesday, December 6, 2011 from 5 to 8 p.m. at the VENSIL & CHUTE FUNERAL HOME 1850 West Main Street. The family request memorial contributions to the Foundation for Hospice of Central Ohio, P.O. Box 430, Newark, Ohio 43058-0430. www.foundationforhoco.org. www.vocfh.com

Licking County

Re: Robert Frater and wife Isabella---Houghton le Spring,Durhan,England

cwsusan — 2010-08-15 17:55:16Z

Have you had any luck with this thread? I have something that might be of interest. On the 1851 Census Robert and Isabella Frater are living next door to my ggg-grandparents, Charls and Maria Palmer. In 1861 there is a Thomas Frater, grandson, age 11, who is living with them at Monkwearmouth. I believe he is the son of Elizabeth Palmer Frater and William Frater. William went to Australia with Kennet Palmer - Charles and Maria's son. Is there any tie in to any of this or am I trying to make something out of nothing??
Kind regards,
Susan McIntosh

Re: FRATER FAMILY

mafrancoise — 2009-11-14 02:38:32Z

Hello,
I hope you are still at this email address. I read your message about John Frater and Elizabeth Scott from Selkirk Scotland. I am descended from their son, Robert, and they are my ggggrandparents. Have more info if you want it.

Re: Fraters of Scotland

ChristineFrater — 2009-04-01 12:38:13Z

Joan Frater born 8 Feb 1870 Kirk Yetholm, Scotland died 8 Sep 1916 St Giles, Edinburgh, Scotland married 22 Jul 1887 in Kirk Yetholm George Sanderson born 29 Sep 1864 Ednam, Scotland died 20 May 1936 Shaunavon, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Children: Agnes, Elizabeth,Alice, William, Jean, John, Elizabeth,& George.

Joan's mother was Jane Frater Father unknown.... Jane also had the following children John Alice and Christina......

Re: James Frater (mother Ellen Butler) - Islington London

kerry165 — 2009-01-03 10:53:31Z

Hello all,

I hope your research continues well. Mine moves slowly.
Does anyone know the actual burial locations of Oliver FRATER & Ellen BUTLER?

I know Ellen died in 1914 in Edmonton. She separated from Oliver before 1909. I know this because I have since found out that my Grandfather was arrested in Camberwell at the age of 8 for walking the streets without a proper Guardian and was sent to an Industrial School in Leicestershire till the age of 16 for his sins!!

A few notes still exist regarding the School (visitor's books unfortunately are missing) but a note was put in the book about Edward wanting to go "home" but Ellen wrote to say that could the school find somewhere for him to work as she was unable to look after him due to poverty and that she had separated from her husband.

I believe that Oliver died in Marylebone in 1921.

I would like to visit their graves, if I knew where they were.

Best wishes for 2009

Kerry

Re: George Frater

drel92 — 2008-12-28 04:23:48Z

Hey my fathers name is george frater but he is from jamaica on currently lives in the US. i dont know if that helps u but its cool to know they had to saem name.

Re: Fraters from San Fransisco and Hungary

jfrater_1 — 2008-06-15 04:50:27Z

Do you have any dates? I do have the family tree from 1482 to now, it includes my son of course.

Look up George Martinuzzi to see where it all started.

Re: Fraters of Scotland

ChristineFrater — 2008-05-08 03:29:47Z

Thank you so much Maurice :) I will email her now...

Re: Fraters of Scotland

mauricefrater — 2008-05-08 03:22:11Z

Christine
Ask: alisonf@aapt.net.au
She has Ruth's contact info.
Maurice

Re: Fraters of Scotland

ChristineFrater — 2008-05-08 03:12:30Z

Thank You Maurice, I am in touch with Kerry in England, and have been for the last few years, Would you have a contact for Ruth that I can get off you?

Thanks for your help
Christine

Re: Fraters of Scotland

mauricefrater — 2008-05-08 03:03:07Z

Christine
See http://www.myforefathers.co.uk/index.html
There is a lot of info and links on that site. I found your message from the site.
My line comes from Redding & Cumbernauld.
You might also try to contact a Ruth Adams in QLD who has done a lot of Frater research.
Maurice

Frater Related.

ChristineFrater — 2008-01-16 01:38:18Z

Would like contact with anyone connected to any of the below... Ty Christine Frater

1-John Frater b. Abt 1785, Northumberland, England
+Isabella (Eliz) Harvey b. Abt 1789, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 26 Mar 1856,
Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
|--2-John Frater b. 11 Oct 1812, Shotten, Northumberland, England, d. 13 Jun
| 1874, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| +Agnes Hetly b. Abt 1820, Morebattle, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 22 Dec
| 1890, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Jane Frater b. 6 Feb 1848, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 1930,
| | Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Alison Frater b. 26 Jun 1850, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 29
| | Jan 1877
| |--3-Margaret Frater b. 5 Dec 1854, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 1
| | Jan 1857, Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Agnes Frater b. Abt 1857, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Margaret Isabella Frater b. 11 Jul 1861, Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire,
| | Scotland
| |--3-John Frater c. 18 Sep 1863, Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d.
| | 30 Nov 1867
|--2-Jane Frater b. 24 Apr 1814, Shildean, Kirk-Newton, Northumberland, England
|--2-Thomas Frater b. 6 May 1816, Shildean, Kirk-Newton, Northumberland, England
|
|--2-George Frater b. 3 Jul 1818, Shildean, Kirk-Newton, Northumberland,
| England, d. 14 Nov 1869, Rhonehouse, Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| +Jane(T) McEwen b. 1812, Urr, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland, d. 4 Aug 1852,
| Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland, m. 18 Jul 1839,
| Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
| |--3-John Frater b. 28 Sep 1839, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire,
| | Scotland, d. 21 Dec 1839, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-Jane Frater b. 18 Nov 1840, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-George Frater b. 22 Sep 1842, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire,
| | Scotland
| |--3-William Frater b. Abt 1845, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire,
| | Scotland, d. 10 Apr 1845, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-Isabella Frater b. 1846, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland,
| | d. 11 Apr 1868, Meadow Park, Tongland, Stewardtry, Kirkcudbrightshire,
| | Scotland
| |--3-Grace Frater b. 1848, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland, d.
| | 23 Feb 1892, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-Janet Frater b. Abt 1850, Kirkcubright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland,
| | d. 5 Mar 1924, Rhonehouse, Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| +Grace Murray b. Abt 1816, (Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland), d. 9 Mar
| 1893, Bellriggs Cottage, Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland, m.
| Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-John Frater b. Abt 1854, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland, d.
| | 1939, Kirkcubright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-Mary Frater b. 1856, d. 1878, Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-Margaret Frater b. 14 Aug 1857, High St, Kirkcudbright,
| | Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-George Frater b. 28 Nov 1865, Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
| |--3-Jane Frater b. 15 Jun 1866, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
|--2-Isabel Frater b. 8 Jun 1821, Kilham, Kirk-Newton, Northumberland, England
| +John Kinghorn b. Abt 1812, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-Alexander Kinghorn b. Abt 1845, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-James Kinghorn b. Abt 1845, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-John Kinghorn b. Abt 1850, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-Isobella Kinghorn b. 16 Jul 1855, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-George Kinghorn b. 21 Oct 1857, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-Jane Kinghorn b. 25 Jan 1860, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-Thomas Kinghorn b. 6 May 1862, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-Allan Kinghorn b. 26 Dec 1864, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
| |--3-Alice Kinghorn b. 26 Dec 1864, Ednam, Roxburgh, Scotland
|--2-James Frater b. 11 Aug 1824, Shildean, Kirk-Newton, Northumberland,
| England, d. 6 Mar 1897, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| +Agnes Tait b. 13 Apr 1829, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 9 Jan
| 1868, Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Rachel Frater b. Abt 1855, (Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland)
| |--3-John Frater b. 27 Jun 1857, Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d.
| | 12 Apr 1914, Hume, Berwick, Scotland
| |--3-Isabella Frater b. 1860, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 17 Jan
| | 1909, Morebattle, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Archibald Frater b. 21 May 1862, Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Janet Frater b. Abt 1864, (Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland)
| +Christina Boa b. Abt 1830, Rutherford, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 6 Mar
| 1895, Kirk Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland
| |--3-Margaret Frater b. 23 Oct 1871, Yetholm, Roxburghshire, Scotland, d. 18
| | Sep 1924, Linton Farm Cottages, Jedburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland
|--2-Alice (Alison) Frater b. 29 Jun 1826, Kilham, Kirk-Newton, Northumberland,
| England
|--2-Alexander Frater b. 15 Dec 1828, Northumberland, England, d. 24 Mar 1911,
| Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia
+Penelope Hay b. 10 Feb 1834, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland,
d. 27 Mar 1917, Merihula, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia, m. 7 Feb
1851, Kirkcubright, Scotland
|--3-John Frater b. Oct 1851, Moredun Station, New England, New South Wales,
| Australia, d. 16 May 1928, District Hospital, Narrabri, New South
| Wales, Australia
|--3-Peter Hay Frater b. 1854, Moredun Station, New England, New South
| Wales, Australia, d. 24 Aug 1858, Trinkey Property , New South Wales,
| Australia
|--3-Elizabeth (Bess) Frater b. 1855, Trinkey Property, Near Quirindi, New
| South Wales, Australia, d. 7 May 1936, "Glenagie" New Angledool, New
| South Wales, Australia
|--3-Alexander (Doc) Frater b. 9 Mar 1859, Trinkey Property, Liverpool
| Plains, New South Wales, Australia, d. 31 Jul 1931, 174 Roger Road,
| Lakemba, New South Wales, Australia
|--3-George Sidney Frater b. 1860, Trinkey Property, Near Quirindi, New
| South Wales, Australia, d. 30 Jul 1932, "Meentone" Near Narrabri, New
| South Wales, Australia
|--3-William Denne Frater b. 1862, Trinkey Property, Near Quirindi, New
| South Wales, Australia, d. 22 Jul 1929, Narrabri, New South Wales,
| Australia
|--3-Archibald Douglas Frater b. 1866, d. 12 Oct 1943, "Meribula" Narrabri,
| New South Wales, Australia
|--3-Penelope Frater b. 26 Jan 1869, Merrylong Park, Liverpool Plains, New
| South Wales, Australia, d. 12 Dec 1939, Hospital Sydney, Princess
| Highway, Sutherland, New South Wales, Australia
|--3-Mary Isobel Frater b. 17 Aug 1871, Merrylong Park, Liverpool Plains,
| New South Wales, Australia, d. 1967, St.Leonards, New South Wales,
| Australia
|--3-Fergus Stewart Frater b. 14 Mar 1876, Merrylong Park, Liverpool Plains,
| New South Wales, Australia

Re: Fraters of Scotland

ChristineFrater — 2008-01-16 01:26:23Z

S.Hansen,

I also have John FRATER married Agnes HEATLEY in my tree, John being a brother to my Alexander Frater who went to Australia. Would love to hear from you. Or any one else that may have Frater ancestors.

Christine Frater

Re: James Frater

lucymarian — 2007-04-05 08:38:24Z

Hi

My mothers brothers are James Frater (known as Jimmy) who has now passed away and Roy Frater - still with us.

Lucy

Re: James Frater

sas3105 — 2007-04-04 19:48:41Z

Hi Lucy,
about the James Frater you are seeking, i think he may be my nan's brother,Please would you contact me as i need to know the names of your mother's brothers. Does the name
Roy appear in your family.Even ifweare not related somehow
it would be good to confim one way or other.

Robert Frater b1848c

elizabetheferguson — 2006-12-02 14:55:53Z

Iam interested in Robert Frater b1848 Hetton Co. Durham and his mother Isabella Frater aged 48 listed as Pauper & Shopkeeper in the 1861 census Shotton Colliery Co. Durham as the Mary Besson age 12 b Percy Main I think is my Husband great grandfathers wife. William Ferguson b1849 Wingate married Mary Beason b 1849c Percy Main and they went to NSW Australia with their family. William died in1881 when a slate fell on his head and Mary and family returned to UK where she married George Rees b 1856 Bristol and had more children. One of these children Thomas Rees b 1883 Bolden emigrated to USA in 1912. Would love to hear from any body interested in this family. Liz Ferguson

Re: Robert Frater and wife Isabella---Houghton le Spring,Durhan,England

elizabetheferguson — 2006-12-01 21:50:53Z

Hi Carl, I saw your message , and my husband is a descendant of William Ferguson B1849 Wingate Durham and Mary Beason b1850 Percy Main. We know she remarried when she returned to uk to George Rees and and had 5 children, Thomas b 1883, Jane b 1885 who married a John Gilroy. George b 1887 William b1890 and Joseph b 1893.
Mary Beasons father was Thomas Beason and he was alive at her wedding in1867.More info and photos available. Please contact me sonn Liz

Re: Robert Frater and wife Isabella---Houghton le Spring,Durhan,England

kerry165 — 2006-10-23 11:47:15Z

Just to add to my comment . The Robert I mentioned had a brother Morgan. SO the children's names do make sense as a possible match.

Re: Robert Frater and wife Isabella---Houghton le Spring,Durhan,England

kerry165 — 2006-10-23 11:30:10Z

Not sure if this piece of info is helpful or not but I have one Robert & Isabella that fits approxiamately in time. I have none of their children to cross-reference though.

Robert FRATER christened 26 May 1811 Chester Le Street, Northumberland - Son on Moses FRATER and Margaret FRAZER son of Ralph FRATER & Hannah RUTTER
married 8 Oct 1831 St Michael's, Houghton le Spring, Co Durham
Isabella Reay

Some descendants of Moses were known to have gone to New Zealand and one was known to have died in Jamaica.

Let me know if any of this makes sense?

Kerry

Robert Frater and wife Isabella---Houghton le Spring,Durhan,England

egodr — 2006-10-23 00:47:25Z

In the 1861 census for Shotton Colliery, Durham there is an Isabella Frater, age 48, born Washington, Durham listed as a Pauper. Listed with her are sons Robert 13, Morgan 7, and a gdaughter Mary Besson age 12 who was born in Percy Main(Tynemouth), Northumberland late 1849. In 1851, Robert Frater,42, born Fatfield,Durham and wife Isabella 41, born Washington, with sons William 17 and Robert 4. In 1841 Robert Frater and Isabella are living in Houghton le Spring with daughter Margaret 9, William 7, and Moses 3. Who were parents of Robert and Isabella Frater?

I have found various references and spellings of Mary Besson which include Beson, Beeson, and (Beason, which the family declares is correct)! What were her parents names, etc? Mary married William Ferguson Q4 1867 in Easington. The 1871 census shows her with husband and daughters Mary A. 2 and Jane 6 months. Evidently they went to New South Wales at some point and are not on the 1881 census. William Ferguson died at some point and she married George Rees Q2 1882 in Chester le Streed, Durham The 1891 census lists son John Ferguson 20, and daughter Isabella 18, both born in Morton, Durham, Ann 11, born South Australia and four othe Rees children, plus a boarder, Robert Frater 47 born in Hetton.

Any one connected to this family? Who were her parents? I have two cousins approaching 90 years, and Mary Beason/George Rees were their grandparents.

Thank you,
Carl Willis

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Re: Fraters & Campbells Sunderland

Annepetrie1 — 2006-08-07 17:17:23Z

Sorry! I should ave said that George Frater married Barbara Campbell. I got this from the IGIs, so no further details. Do you have any?

Yes, my Petries are from South Shields and Southwick

Anne

Re: Fraters & Campbells Sunderland

2006-08-06 19:29:36Z

George Frater married Barbara Campbell 29 May 1814 at Sunderland, but I don't know of a James married to Barbara Campbell.

Do your Petrie's come from the north east?

Fraters & Campbells Sunderland

Annepetrie1 — 2006-08-05 14:26:42Z

George Frater and his wife Barbara had at least 5 children: Thomas b. 1816 Bishopwermouth; James b. 1817 Fulwell; George b. 1927 Monkwearmouth; Margaret b. 1829 Monkwearmouth; Barbara b. 1832 Monkwearmouth.

There is a big gap between 1817 and 1827 - does anyone know of any other children?

I believe that James' wife was Barbara Campbell, but cannot find a marriage. Any information appreciated.

William A. Frater, b. 1843 Ohio to Oregon

tonylarson_1 — 2006-04-03 15:27:07Z

Oregon Republican League:

Republican League Register of Oregon, The Register Publishing Company, 1896, page 209.

FRATER, W. A., of Roseburg, was born in Eastern Ohio in 1843. He was Second Sergeant of Company E, One Hundred and Fortieth Ohio Volunteers, in the war, and at the close of the war returned to his farm. In 1877 he took his family to Kansas, but fire robbed him of all his possessions, and he came on to Oregon, locating in Douglas County. For sixteen years he lived there, engaged in farming, carpentering and other labor. In 1893 he was appointed Treasurer of Douglas County, to fill a vacancy, and in 1894 was elected to the position. He was a member of the county central committee in 1888 and a delegate to the county convention in 1890.

-Tony Larson

Peter FRATER marrying Jane STARK in London/Surrey

KerryWales — 2005-12-31 20:11:31Z

Hi.
I am doing a one name study of the FRATER name. I have come across a branch in London which is not linked to my own, which is unusual. From the databases I have to hand, I believe that I have created a simple tree. I am looking to see if these links have meaning to anyone on the list.
Jane STARK born around 1816 in Southwark London married Peter FRATER (born around 1811) on an unknown date (pre 1837?). Some of their children included the name Stark in their names.
Matthew Stark FRATER b qtr March 1843
John Stark FRATER b qtr March 1849
Robert FRATER b 1850
Emma Frater b 1852
Peter Robert FRATER b 1853
David Fleming FRATER b 1855
Margaret FRATER b 1858

There may be other children. Peter died in 1875 in the Woolwich district and Jane died in Qtr Dec 1894.

If any of these names fit into anyone's tree I would realy like to hear from you.

Regards
Kerry (Frater)

Re: John Fraiter/ Margaret Smith, of Roxburgh Scotland

stotherscomstone — 2005-12-29 21:52:20Z

Kerry,

Thanks for this data. I have your first-mentioned John, son of John, as a brother to my 5-g-grandmother Helen (chr 19 Jan 1773, Cavers, m Peter Smith 5 Jun 1774 in Ancrum). The others are presently unknown connections.

Thanks,
Bruce

Re: John Fraiter/ Margaret Smith, of Roxburgh Scotland

KerryWales — 2005-12-28 12:47:50Z

Welcome

MargaretGraham56 — 2005-09-29 06:54:07Z

As the new Administrator of this board, I invite you to list all your queries in your Frater research. Please feel free to contact me if you have any difficulty.

Margaret

Re: John Fraiter/ Margaret Smith, of Roxburgh Scotland

stotherscomstone — 2005-09-20 00:27:20Z

Bill,

Thank you for taking the time to look at the IGI. I think the year is too early, but I'll refer it later for review.

Thank you,
Bruce

Re: John Fraiter/ Margaret Smith, of Roxburgh Scotland

2005-09-19 17:01:03Z

When you say no other information is known, I don't know if that means you don't have their marriage info but the IGI shows a marriage of these two (presumably) on 06 JAN 1744 Cavers, Roxburgh, Scotland. Batch #M117852 refers.

John Fraiter/ Margaret Smith, of Roxburgh Scotland

stotherscomstone — 2005-09-18 14:58:49Z

Seeking information about the Fraiter family of Roxburgh Scotland. John Fraiter married Margaret Smith and had at least two children in Cavers, Roxburgh: Helen (b 1753) and John (1750). No other information is known, including birth place/date of father John Fraiter. Any suggestions are appreciated.

FRATER's in Polmont, Scotland

BDick3063 — 2004-10-20 03:31:35Z

I am searching for relatives of John FRATER who married Helen DICK 24 May 1806 in Polmont, Scotland.

Re: James Frater

KerryWales — 2004-09-17 10:30:09Z

Lucy,
Just to let you know. I am still digging. I have been back to the library to track down some more BMD's and to stretch the dates I am looking at towards that era.
Unfortunately the FRATER men at that time in Lodon don't seem to have had a good track record.
I hope we are better these days.
I will send on details as soon as I can hang some elements together that make better sense.

Please keep in contact and let me know if you find anything. I have been told that the FRC in Islington should be able to help me look up some records. I have never been yet but I am trying to plan a work trip to London that will give me enough time to pop in.

Best wishes

Kerry

Re: obit Napoleon "Na" Frater

joalv — 2004-09-13 01:29:16Z

I am the Grand daughter of Elsie Frater Munson. She was the daughter of John Frater who was the son of Shade (Shadrick, Sharic Frater.) They were citizens of Athens, Chandler and other places in the Tyler, Texas area.
I have been researching our family tree and have had great success. I would like to compare notes with you about our obviously common links in the Frater chain.
We had a Frater Family meeting in Tyler in January and L. C. Frater was supposed to have attended but he didn't because of the weather.
Please e-mail me and we can share family info. It's great to find more cousins.

Lucy,Re: James Frater

KerryWales — 2004-07-21 18:32:30Z

Lucy,
I have had a few problems posting to the message board today so I have emailed you at bat.com with a more detailed message and attached is a simple family tree.
In essence I believe your Gt Grandfather James is my Grandfather's brother. He was born in Islington in 1878.

If you want the message sent somewhere else send me an email and I'll send a copy.

Best wishes,

Kerry

Re: James Frater

lucymarian1 — 2004-07-21 11:07:16Z

HI again

since writing my last reply I have spoken to my mum and she said that her dad was born in islington.

Re: James Frater

2004-07-21 09:54:23Z

Hi Kerry

Thanks for replying to my message.

My grandad James William Oliver Frater was born on the 24/10/1909. My mum will be 55 in september and I will be 26 in november. We have other living fraters on my mums side, one of her brothers and his two sons.

Re: James Frater

KerryWales — 2004-07-21 07:54:21Z

Lucy,
I think your J W O may be linked to my family tree.
I am descended from James Frater (Gt Gt Grandad) who moved from Scotland in the 1820's to live in London (Islington area).

I say you do not have dates but you can make guesstimates based on your age, and your mother's age.

My Grandfather moved out of London as a teenager to go to South Wales circa 1910. This means that in my direct line only one FRATER was born and died in London. This was Oliver FRATER. Common and repeated names are James William & Oliver. I have logged 21 descendants of James, so far, with the name James or William or Oliver.

I also have tabled all the BMD's of FRATER's in England & Wales between 1837 and 1919. The tree and table are on my website www.myforefathers.co.uk.

I do not have a James William Oliver in my tree yet, but the BMD does show a James William O born Qtr Dec 1909 in Islington Vol 1b page 284. Is this the right time period?

Islington can provide you with with a birth certificate based on the date and name. They did for my Grandfather.

I am trying to find out if they have an "archives" office which I can visit to do lookups as I have done for my family links in South Wales.

Based on the name and time period I believe he is linked with my family.

Please get in touch if you think I can be of more help.

Kerry

James Frater

lucymarian1 — 2004-07-20 15:45:57Z

Hi

Im trying to find out about my mums side of the family, all I know is that her dad was named James William Oliver Frater and his parents were James and Mary Frater. ( I do not know his mothers maden name). James Willaim Oliver Frater then married Mary young and they had 3 children. ( Including my mum) but he left them and Mary Young (frater( re-married.
I know it is not much but we have no dates or records and it is proving very diifcult. They lived in London.
Any info would be apprreciated.

obit Napoleon "Na" Frater

cantorjoeocho — 2004-04-29 19:02:51Z

He died Friday, 16 Apr 2004 of cancer in Austin, TX.
He was retired from Austin Independent School District ater 30 years of service and was a member of U.M.W. Scottish Rite Grand Lodge A.F.& A.M. ofTexas.
Survived byh wife of 49 years Rachel; daughters Mary L. Linder of Memphis TN;Yvonne R. McKnight and husband Darrell of Austin, TX; sons, Willie F Chambers and wife Hilion;William E. Chambers and wife Joyce;Raymond Chambers and wife Renee and Joseph Chambers and wife Brenda, all of Houston; brother L.C. Frater and wife Mae Helen of Tyler;James Frater of Vernon; sisters Bertha Smith and husband Peter of Mineola, TX and Cressie Curtis of Chandler, TX.
Interment in Capital Parks Cemetery in Pflugerville, TX.
Cook-Walden ( 512)251-4118.

Re: Frater/Bendix

margmarieh — 2004-04-28 17:57:35Z

There is a family of Frater's that were native to the Okaloosa- Walton County area. I am doing research on a related line of whom Angus is the oldest son, with a brother Ryan and a sister, Allice. My Angus was born in 1896. If I come across any information I will pass it along.

Re: Frater/Bendix

margmarieh — 2004-04-28 17:57:35Z

Found Angus Edgar Frater in WWI Civilian Draft Registration database online with ancestry.com, as a native of Crestview. Pretty sure that this is the person you are seeking.

Looking for Caroline Reeves (nee Frater)

KerryWales — 2004-03-20 17:16:00Z

Does anyone have Caroline's email address?

I have tried to contact her with some data but I have got an
"undelivered email" back on her aol email address.

Kerry