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Re: Gentleman's from Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland

GlendaGentleman75 — 2011-10-26 19:35:19Z

Re your message to Allison
Interesting your mention of the marriage to Christine Marshall. I vaguely recall my dad mentioning that name - but I always thought the Marshall's were neighbours, not relatives. Could well be that there was a marriage connection as well! To bad our ancestors aren't here to clarify such details for us!
glenda

Re: Gentleman's from Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland

elainelennox — 2011-10-21 16:40:28Z

Hi Glenda
I read your post with interest and it motivated me to have a look at my great great grandfathers' siblings.

If you take a look at my post to Allison, you will see that I agree with your research. I am very sure that we too are related through your great grandfather, Thomas Gentleman, and my great great grandfather, his brother, John Gentleman. It would be lovely to make a personal contact with you, so if you are agreeable, please send me an email on my work address in the first instance at elaine.lennox@fife.gov.uk

You will see also on my post to Allison that I am intrigued by my findings re yet another brother, Robert Gentleman! Any ideas on that one?

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Elaine.

Re: Gentleman's from Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland

elainelennox — 2011-10-21 16:30:30Z

Hi Allison
I have finally found some time to get into my research again. I do hope you pick up this post. I am absolutely sure we are related through our great great grandfathers, James and John Gentleman respectively. and I would love to make a personal contact with you, if you are agreeable. This would be best done through my work email in the first instance. It is: elaine.lennox@fife.gov.uk
Please drop me a line at that address and we can take it from there.

Today I have been investigating James and John's siblings. I agree with Glenda's post, in that I have tracked down Alexander, Mary, Thomas and William. However there also seems to be a Robert. This would make sense as the eldest boy was often called after the father or grandfather. I cannot find a birth certificate, but have found a death certificate which gives his parents as Robert Gentleman and Mary McFarlane. He died 3rd July 1855, aged 50 years. This would mean he was born circa 1805 - the same year as your James!! Were they just very close in age? Could they have been twins? (My great grandfather James Gentleman was a twin.) Or is there some other explanation? Intriguing! I have also found his marriage banns in 1830 to Christian (Christina) Marshall. Any ideas?

I think I can go back even further.

Do get in touch,
Elaine.

Ebenezer Gentleman/Russell Monument Pic from Stirling

clddbd — 2011-08-28 07:51:40Z

In July 2011 I was fortunate to visit The Church of the Holy Rude right below Stirling Castle in Stirling, Scotland. It is a beautiful cemetery and is where I took this picture. I hope someone finds it meaningful to their family.
Cheryl

Re: Gentleman's from Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland

elainelennox — 2011-08-08 16:44:14Z

Dear Allison
It's great to hear from you after all this time! I was so excited when I discovered the connection and then of course I realised I might never hear from you. At that time I even looked up the international Yellow Pages and wrote to all the Mulligans in Vancouver, but not one reply! So this is absolutely amazing!! At the moment I have picked up your message via an email from ancestry.com and I am on holiday on the island of Sardinia in the Mediterranean. I will be home by the week-end, but have a wedding to go to, so it may be the following week-end before I am in touch again. (Work will get in the way!) Like you, I haven't done much research recently, so need to get back in to my papers. However I am absolutely delighted to have heard from you and will definitely be back in communication. I would love to get to know you, if you are willing to share. I'm not sure how we take this forward, but will look into it further once I get home. You have made my day - and given me something to look forward to when I get home! Have a good week. All the best, Elaine.

Re: Gentleman's from Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland

amulligan158 — 2011-08-04 04:37:21Z

Hi Glenda,
I just read your message from 2008 and we do indeed have a connection. I did a lot of research a few years back and then took a break from it. Just lately I've got in to it again. My great, great, great grandfather was Robert Gentleman, born Feb. 20, 774 - his son James was my great, great grandfather.
I live in Canada and when I first visited Tillicoultry and started to look through church graves stones, the first one I noticed was for a Thomas Gentleman, died Dec. 1890. Later in my research I found out that he was one of James' siblings.
So there's the connection.
I'm only sorry that I haven't been looking for messages for a few years. I hope you are still monitoring this site - I would like to hear from you. I'll watch for a reply.
Regards,
Allison

Re: Gentleman's from Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland

amulligan158 — 2011-08-04 04:25:12Z

Hi Elaine: Wow! I just now read your message posted in 2006 I think. I had not done any research for a few years and lately have got interested in it again. I was telling a friend about it and he has just phoned me and said he googled Gentleman and Tillicoultry and found your message which he e-mailed to me.
Yes, indeed I believe my great, great, great grandfather was Robert Gentleman born Feb. 20, 1774. His son, James, was my great great grandfather - brother to John, your GG grandfather. Just this evening I was going through my notes: census, certificates, etc. etc. and my head is swirling with the information. I have lots of questions and would love to go to Edinburgh again to visit the Registry Office and visit Tillicoultry again. I live in North Vancouver, B.C. Canada.
I do hope you are still monitoring this site and I'm sorry it has taken so long for me to find you. I will anxiously watch for a reply.
Regards,
Allison

Re: GENTLEMAN, Robt J, Mary B and others

mbe4118 — 2011-04-10 19:04:00Z

I have that Nicholas and Mary were married in Canada in 1856. Also son Robert was born in Paris, Ontario, Canada, 1861.

Re: GENTLEMAN, Robt J, Mary B and others

kob35irish — 2011-04-10 08:03:40Z

One of your relatives, Christine Weidner, has provided me with a lot of the information on the Peasingers. I have met Bess and and the Halpenny sister, name escapes me a the moment.

I noticed that there is new information and different dates than she had before on some of our mutual relatives. I would be interested in anything you have. I am especially interested in Mary Garry. I can't seem to find a marriage date for her and Nicholas.
Kathleen O'Brien

Re: GENTLEMAN, Robt J, Mary B and others

jadfamily6 — 2011-04-09 06:28:43Z

My mother is one of the daughters of Charles and Elizabeth (Gentleman) Peasinger. Your husband and I must be first cousins.

Re: GENTLEMAN, Robt J, Mary B and others

jadfamily6 — 2011-04-09 06:22:12Z

Elizabeth and Charles Peasinger were my grandparents. I have just started to research and would share what I know.

Re: Gentleman in Counties Kerry and Limerick

jadfamily6 — 2011-04-09 06:11:03Z

They immigrated to Canada because it was a shorter distance over the ocean.

Re: GENTLEMAN SURNAME research

haningtonc — 2010-09-21 09:33:46Z

Hi

I have just started searching my family roots and the name Clara Gentleman has come up. In my records she is the daughter of Matthew Gentleman and Emily Gentlement (nee Reeder) and she was born in 1871, The resided at Tofftrees Road, Norfolk, England.

I hope this information helps - although you probably already have it. I am now on the line of Mary Carter and Edward Langley.

Regards

Carol

Re: gentleman

AlanGentleman6000 — 2010-08-04 17:33:27Z

can anyone please tell me if there were any families in County Kerry Republic of Ireland 1868 at Mountcoal, any info would really help with my search.
I have a crest and a motto for the Gentleman Family

Re: gentleman

AlanGentleman6000 — 2010-08-04 17:29:22Z

Re: gentleman

AlanGentleman6000 — 2010-08-04 17:27:30Z

can anyone please tell me if there were any families in County Kerry Republic of Ireland 1868 at Mountcoal, any info would info would really help with my search.
I have a crest and a motto for the Gentleman Family

Re: gentleman

mcmnoble — 2010-07-09 09:19:28Z

Dera Stephen,
I hope you are still using this board as your post was 9 years ago. My mother is descended from the Gentleman family who lived in Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia from the late 1800's. I have a little information on this line but would love any more that you could give.
Here's hoping,
Margaret

Re: Gentleman in Counties Kerry and Limerick

djhender — 2010-06-15 20:44:26Z

I am trying to find any information about my gggrandmother, Mary Gentleman (Gentlemen) she married Cornelious Connor (O'Connor) in 1866. Son Patrick Connor was born 1867 in Gortnagulia (Gortnaqulia) in 1867. Patrick married Honora Hayes in 1892.
I have not been able to find any info on Mary Gentleman or her family.
Thanks

Re: Gentleman - Ireland

kateherron41 — 2010-06-09 00:23:06Z

My family is also from Ballyheigue. You could also email the archivist, Michael Lynch, at the Tralee library for help. He's wonderful. == Kate in Chicago

archivist@kerrycolib.ie

Re: Gentleman - Ireland

shellmarketer — 2010-06-09 00:14:30Z

Yes I have been to the site. A great guy assisting me in Ireland brought it to my attention. Have identified many Gentlemans NOT related to my Julia, but believe there is supposed to be a major data addition on June 16th which hopefully will include here. IT is a great site, and thanks so much for writing to me. I am sure others will appreciate your note.
Jim BOrneman
shellmarketer@yahoo.com

Re: Gentleman - Ireland

kateherron41 — 2010-06-08 13:59:39Z

I'm assuming you've all seen the Kerry church records on-line by now? Wonderful resource:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

Re: Chestina Gentleman

riggs1sgt — 2010-02-24 04:50:49Z

Please disregard garbled answer I just posted. Chestina's sister Adelina married Cyrus Lovejoy of Princeton. Don't know why Chestina's prayerbook ended up there instead of with other family stuff in LaSalle County. My grandmother was Chestina Trumbo Matlock who was named for her grandmother Chestina Gentleman.
Mary Ann

Re: Chestina Gentleman

riggs1sgt — 2010-02-24 04:39:43Z

The prayer book in Princeton belonged to Chestina's sister who married Owen Lovejoy. Chestina was my great-great-grandmother and my grandmother, Chestina Trumbo was named for her. I have more info on the family, also.
Mary Ann Riggs

Re: Chestina Gentleman

larshar63 — 2010-01-14 21:09:36Z

Chestina is buried in the Ottawa Ave Cemetery in Ottawa, IL What other information are you looking for? I know there is a small white prayer book on a table in the Owen Lovejoy Homestead Museum in Princeton, IL with her name written in as the owner.
My husband is a descendant of one of Chestina's sisters. I would be happy to trade or share information
Sharon Perkins

Re: Gentleman - Ireland

shellmarketer — 2010-01-12 02:24:43Z

Hello,
I would appreciate any information you or your Grandfather has on the Ballyheigue clan. My Great Great Grandmother was Julia Gentleman. I first find her in Delaware Ohio in 1860, with I believe another family of Gentlemans who arrived there in the 1860's. From the USA Census's I know she was from the Irish Free State and born about 1840 +/- 2 years, and from her death record her fathers name was Frank (Francis?). A very knowledgable and kind man from Ireland has helped me narrow her origin to Ballheigue. I have written to the parish preist there to see if he could help me with any baptismal records but have heard nothing back.

If your grandfather has any information on the family from that area, it might provide other clues. I am told this is a very uncommon name and it may be that we are very distant relations. Happy to share what I have on the USA Gentlemans if any are related to you.

In advance, thank you

Jim
shellmarketer@yahoo.com

Re: Gentleman - Ireland

elefink — 2010-01-10 13:30:43Z

My family is descended from the Gentleman family of Ballyheigue. It's my understanding that two brothers, Peter and Robert left the area in the late 1800's. Robert returned to Ireland, and the family in Co. Kerry and Dublin are descended from him. Peter settled in the area of Chicago, IL. He had several sons, but only my great-grandfather, William, produced children. My grandfather has some records, which I can try to get and post here.

Re: gentleman surname

admin1sujlpsqvvt2la8t2plglos6q631t — 2009-11-24 10:47:42Z

My mother's maiden name was Gentleman - her father John Bolton Gentleman work in the newspaper industry and was killed when he car slid on tram lines and plunged into the river Clyde. I was always told that the famoily had come over from France with Bonnie Prince Charlie and was originally Gentlehomme. Do a lots of cousins

Re: William Nicholas Gentleman

chaspa27193 — 2009-10-12 00:39:01Z

Greetings from Australia.
I have information back into Ireland re the Gentleman family from Co. Kerry. William Gentleman married Honoria Scanlan and they has issue of: Sarah / Francis / Mary and Ellen that I know of. Please make contact with me at: chaspa27@bigpond.net.au if you would like more information.
Regards.
Patricia Smith.

Re: William Nicholas Gentleman

JanetJohnson8827 — 2009-10-11 14:42:19Z

My e-mail is jrjohnson22@verizon.net. Would love to make a connection on the Gentleman name sometime. It seems that they all moved in different directions. I tried to trace back to Ireland but I had more info than they were able to give me. Apparently, they had a fire and many records were lost.

Janet

Re: William Nicholas Gentleman

shellmarketer — 2009-10-10 15:53:44Z

Janet,
Thank you for the information you sent. I recieved last weekend but travelled all week and could not respond. Could you send me your direct email so I could write further. I know that I am not related to the Warrensville Heights and Troy line (even though I did live in Cleveland for 6 years), but your spreadsheet that listed the four Frances is of great interest to me. When I get your email I will write more detail as to why.

Re: William Nicholas Gentleman

shellmarketer — 2009-09-30 00:26:49Z

Janet,
Thank you for your email. My home address is
43 West Old Sterling Circle, The Woodlands, Texas 77382.

I have learned much about this line of the Gentleman family. Do you have more information on William, his parents George/John and Margaret and his two sisters?

I am still trying to track a cousin named Julia Gentleman, whose Parents I believe are Frank/Francis and Sarah.

Jim Borneman
shellmarketer@yahoo.com

Re: William Nicholas Gentleman

JanetJohnson8827 — 2009-09-29 23:52:50Z

I have a copy of the obituary of William Gentleman from Delaware. If you want a copy send me your home address and I will mail you what I have.
Janet

Re: John Gentleman

johng1168 — 2009-09-25 06:36:59Z

Sorry, not me Jim. This is the first time I have posted.

Re: John Gentleman

cybergent — 2009-09-25 01:33:47Z

I am not the one who posted as Steve Gentleman. I think he has posted to me before though.

Re: John Gentleman

shellmarketer — 2009-09-24 22:46:23Z

Hello,
Are you the Gentleman that use to post as SteveGentleman from Austrailia? If so I would like to contact you on the Gentlemans from County Kerry.

Jim Borneman
shellmarketer@yahoo.com

Re: John Gentleman

johng1168 — 2009-09-19 15:38:02Z

Hello all,
Our common surname has a very simple genesis...........at first blush!

It originates in the Stuart (French spellng), or Stewart (Scottish spelling) in the middle ages. Mary, Queen of Scots, was born in the town of my birth and upbringing - Linlithgow, Scotland. She was born, as was her father, King James, in Linlithgow Palace. The enemy at that time were the English. The allies at that time were the French. The Scottish Royal Court of the Stuarts could only speak Norman French, thus Mary's Royal Court consisted of mainly Norman-French people. The head of this Royal Court was known as the 'gentilhomme de la Court Royale'. The 'gentilhomme is the clue. It literally translates into 'The Gentleman of the Royal Court , responsible for the day-to-day running and orderly fashion of the Royal Court. All this while, John Knox was transforming Scotland from a Catholic country into a Protestant one. The Stuart royal dynasty were very much Catholic. It took Knox, a fearsome character, just over a year to accomplish it. Meanwhile Mary's cousin, Queen Elizabeth I of England, was also busily transforming England into a Protestant one, albeit in a slightly different fashion. To this day Scots are mainly Presbyterian, whilst the English are Anglican. Whatever, Mary ended up 'losing her head' (literally) and consequently the throne of Scotland, which ultimately led to the 'Union of the Crowns'. The gentilhomme's melded into local society and anglicised their names to Gentleman. Those who wished to continue pursuing their Catholic faith largely migrated to Ireland (though some returned to France). That's why the surname, whilst still unusual, can be encountered in both Scotland and Ireland.

There are many 'Gentlemans' to be found in London and the the south-east of England - but their genesis is quite different. The majority of these peoples' names can be traced back to the Jewish 'Pale' which prior to WW11, was a geographic enclave including parts of Germany, Poland, Belorussia and the (now) Czech Republic. Their Yiddish names were Gentelmann which was easily anglicised to Gentleman - for those who were fortunate enough to escape the Nazis and seek refuge in England.

Hope I've been of some help.

I'm now resident in Australia and there's a few of us here too!

Re: John Gentleman

cybergent — 2009-08-22 13:16:30Z

If you will give me your fax I will send you my info.

Re: Chestina Gentleman

larshar63 — 2009-08-21 03:36:31Z

If you are still interested in Chestina Trumbo-In Princeton, IL there is a prayerbook on display on a table with the name Chestina Gentleman on the front inside page @ the Owen Lovejoy Homestead which is a museum. I have been in contact with a descendant of Chestina Gentleman and Trumbo. What kind of information are you seeking? I'm interested in the Gentleman family and have questions as well
Sharon Perkins
larshar63@Yahoo.com

Re: gentleman

mcmnoble — 2009-08-03 06:25:11Z

My great grandmother was a Mary Gentleman. She lived in Charters Towers but came from Ireland - Kilkenny or Kerry. Her marriage in CT to Thomas Palmer was witnessed by two members of the family, Sarah and Frank - no idea what relation, possibly siblings. Your post was a very long time ago and I am new to this site. I haven't much information as I have not yet started on that side of my family.

gentleman surname research

2009-06-19 19:41:11Z

I have been researching the unusal surname of gentleman for many years,i have found out these other surnames are also connected to my gentleman(norfolk-england)but have much information on the surname of gentleman and am willing to share with anybody interested...

Re: John Gentleman

cybergent — 2009-05-25 14:46:53Z

I still have th information but haven't found the time to copy it and send it. I haven't forgotten. I will try to send it son. Do you have a fax?

Re: gentleman research

cybergent — 2009-04-06 12:37:20Z

My husband's name is Jon A. Gentleman. His Dad was John A. Gentleman and he is married to Patricia A. Gentleman. Cyril and Margaret were John's parents. Anyone know his tree?

Re: William Nicholas Gentleman

shellmarketer — 2009-04-05 14:16:43Z

Julia (and Ray and Steve and all others),
We may have corresponded in the past as I was looking for George and Margaret Gentleman, who travelled on the Lady Russell in 1857 with daughters Julia and Ann from Tralee to the USA. They settled in Delaware, Ohio. This has been a stone wall as I have no other information on George prior to the Lady Russell sailing. I am related through Julia.

Just learned that in the 1870 US Federal Census that George is called John Gentleman, married to Margaret. George is 70 in 1870 and Margaret (Mary?) is 60.

I also have wondered why William Gentleman settled in Delaware, but possibly to be with his father John (which is mentioned on this board in an old post.) This might explain why so many Gentlemans in a small town, far from Ireland.

It may be that I have been looking for George all these years and should have been looking for John!

Would appreciate any replies on the Gentleman's from Ireland and Delaware, Ohio. Happy to share all I have for would like to trace the family back to Ireland.

In advance,

Thank you

Jim

Re: John Gentleman

cybergent — 2009-01-19 04:01:00Z

I think they came from England and Australia. I will check my info and make sure. Some lived in California for awhile too.

Re: John Gentleman

cybergent — 2009-01-19 03:58:42Z

My email address is: alinjack@msn.com

I have some pages of information that I can share. I will start gathering info and send it to you. I would be interested in seeing what info they might have too. Tell me your email and I will share what I have.

Re: John Gentleman

nschlesiger — 2009-01-17 21:36:24Z

Hi, Alberta. I finally moved the headstones for Cyril and Marguerite Gentleman from my camera to my computer. Let me know how I may get the images to you (they're clear but not as good as I like, so I may need to re-take them later). I don't think I have your email address.

By the way, there are some other Gentleman relatives who are interested in family history. I don't know much about the Dineens at all, so it would be good to share information between us.

Happy new year, 2009!

Nancy Gentleman Schlesiger

Seeking Geroge Gentleman

shellmarketer — 2008-12-25 15:18:11Z

I am seeking information on the family of George Gentleman (b 1807) who with wife Mary (Margaret?) (B 1811) and daughters Ann (b 1844) and Julia (Mary?) (1838) travelled on the Lady Russell in 1857 to America and settled in Delaware, Ohio. Mary maiden name may have been Evans. I believe this Julia is my GGGrandmother and I am trying to extend the family tree to the old country. Will share all that i have. Please feel free to contact me directly at shellmarketer@yahoo.com

Re: John Gentleman

cybergent — 2008-12-21 07:27:52Z

I would like a picture of the cemetary markers please. I have some info on the Gentleman Family that my mother in law just sent me. Not sure if it helps you or not. Here is what she wrote: How interesting. Of course, you know that Cyril was Jack's dad and I remember visiting his sister Ruth while she lived in Omaha but when her husband passed away she moved to California but don't know the year, to live with her daughter. Colleen would know more about that than I do. I have some, but not much information on all of that. I have more information on Marguerite's side (Dineen) family than on Cyrils. Shawn's middle name is Dineen.

Any iformation you could share with me would be great.
Thanks
Alberta

Re: Gentleman's from Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland

GlendaGentleman75 — 2008-12-21 07:03:30Z

I'm not certain that I have the right connections, but my current findings are that I too am related to Robert Gentleman and Mary McFarlane by way of their son Thomas Gentleman born 06 Jul 1810 - deceased 27 Oct 1890 Parish of Tillicoultry age 83. His siblings(I think)include James DOB 18 Jul 1805, William DOB 27 Jan 1808, Alexander DOB22 Jun 1812, John DOB 25 Apr 1815 and Mary DOB 06 May 1819.
Thomas (my relation) married Janet Russel 31 Dec 1857. They had four children Robert, Janet Walker, William Russel Gentleman (my grandfather DOB 18 Dec 1863) and Mary Helen. William Russel married Annie Cowan McNaughtan.....they had five children.......my dad being one of them. William Donald Gentleman. Do you think this is the right connection? Would love to hear more from you if you think it is!!
Glenda Gentleman

Re: John Gentleman

cybergent — 2008-12-19 05:48:21Z

My father in law passed away but I will share anything I find. I am new to this so I don't have anything yet but when I do I will email you.
Thanks