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Re: Elisabetha Gotz Germany or France to PA?

jana2676 — 2012-02-27 07:26:36Z

Please email me at jstanley1999@yahoo.com

Jacob and Elizabeth were my gg grandparents. Their daughter, Emma Scherry Jones, was my g grandmother.

Thanks, Jana

Re: Elisabetha Gotz Germany or France to PA?

maryandtomroberts — 2012-01-17 02:57:07Z

Jacob William Scherry born in 1826 in Bavaria, Germany married Elizabeth Goetz born Nov. 10, 1845 in Gernsbach, Baden, Germany, her father was Wendolin Goetz, mothers name was Phyllis. Jacob died Jan. 15, 1891, buried in City Cem., Wilkes-Barre, Pa.; Elizabeth died Feb. 25, 1943 also buried in the city cem., Lot #7B, Wilkes-Barre, Pa. Jacob went by the name John as was a tailor by trade. They had 11 children, Adam, Elizabeth, Catherina, Matilda, Anthony, Anna, Emma, Fredrick, Jacob, Edward and William. I have lots more info.if you need it Jana, and let me know your concern, I am family.

Re: Elisabetha Gotz Germany or France to PA?

maryandtomroberts — 2012-01-17 02:57:05Z

Götz in Sorga (Hessen)

Wolfgang2162001 — 2011-11-01 08:09:05Z

"Kreisanzeiger am Sonntag" vom 23. Okt. 2011:

In Liebe und Dankbarkeit nehmen wir Abschied von meinem lieben Mann, unserem lieben Vater, Schwiegervater, Opa, Onkel, Bruder und Schwager

Heinrich Goetz

* 5. Sept. 1943
+ 14. Okt. 2011

Die, die Dich nie vergessen:

Deine Traudel
Martina und Bernd
Andreas und Olga mit Fabian und Sophia
Heiko und Heidi mit Leonie und Anna-Lena
Verena und Tobias mit Collin
Alexandra und Frank mit Milena
Gretel und Manfred

Sorga, im Okt. 2011

Die Trauerfeier zur Urnenbeisetzung findet am 27. Okt. 2011 um 14.00 Uhr in der Friedhofskapelle in Sorga statt.

Re: Josef Goetz of Obertsrot, Baden, Germany

pjlaird01 — 2011-10-07 19:57:34Z

Where does Fortenbacher come into your Goetz Line. I am just beginning my research of the Fortenbachers in Obertsrot.
Patti
pjlaird01@hotmail.com

Re: Goetz from Maryhill, Ontario

CaraMaeH — 2011-09-12 21:15:35Z

I think your grandfather Simon was the brother of my great-grandmother, Johanna Marie Goetz who married Leo Leonard Wadel and were the parents of my grandmother Norma Marie Wadel (her married surname is Sangoi).

I'm VERY new to genealogy and I did send a private email to boblangill who also posted in this thread.

Cara-Mae Hackett

*biological child of Yvette Jo Ann Sangoi & Wesley Becker
*adopted child of William Clifford Hackett (d) March 20, 1993 & Dorothy Alice David (d) Nov 2, 2004

Adam Goetz

cheyenne0509 — 2011-09-02 20:29:11Z

Looking for information on Adam Goetz. He was born September 1839 in Germany. He came to the US somewhere around 1865. He married Catherine Hild in 1870 in New York. They had 5 children: Katherine 1871, Elizabeth 6/26/1874, Herman 4/1875, August 1876 and William 1881.

Adam Goetz

cheyenne0509 — 2011-09-02 20:29:08Z

Re: Goetz/Getz Family

mrslurch — 2011-08-13 16:36:00Z

I am looking for info John (NMI)Goetz came from Amselfdorf, Ger to New York B:07 Apr 1967 D: 23 June 1995 NY, M:17 Sept 1892 Augusta Bartcher,NY.

M.R. Ormsbee

Re: Goetz/Getz Family

PMalenke — 2011-08-13 04:55:40Z

Did a little research....your Goetz came from Romania, our Goetz came from Crimea, Russia. Unfortunately, I don't think we will find a connection. We did try though...right???!! Thanks for contacting me though...:)

Glenn

Re: Goetz/Getz Family

GOETZSTASIK — 2011-08-13 02:29:46Z

My great grandfather was Jacob Goetz. He married Magdalene Springer, no verification on who his father was. Had to be prior to 1850. He died in 1925.

Re: Goetz/Getz Family

glp0426 — 2011-08-13 01:21:03Z

Old post but I'm still around!!
My mother in law's maiden is Getz. Her father was John Paul Getz, his father John Jacob Getz and his father Paul Goetz.

Alot of the family took the Getz spelling but there were plenty that kept the Goetz spelling. My wife's line was mainly in the South Dakota area but other lines went to the Zap & Hazen North Dakota area.

I've done a bit of research and have a nice little Goetz/Getz tree going. I did not find the names Bernard and Jacob in it though. Could give me their dates of birth and place of birth and I'll see if I can make the connection??

Thanks,
Glenn Palmer (GLP0426@aol.com) the "0" is a zero

Re: Goetz/Getz Family

GOETZSTASIK — 2011-08-12 00:49:54Z

I realize this is an old post but my grandfather Bernard Goetz was originally from there. His was dad Jacob Goetz and mother Mageline Springer Goetz.

Goetz of NY

DeniseMQuinones — 2011-07-17 13:08:13Z

Bella Goetz had a daughter with William Randall in 1910 (New York) which was given up for adoption. Her birth name was Helen Randall. Can anyone give some information on Bella or Randall?

Re: Goetz in IL

nancymcdonald — 2011-06-29 07:59:50Z

Magdalena's birth last name was BECKER. Her parents were Ignatz and Elizabeth Becker from Baden, as was Magdalena. Her sister was Susan Becker Benz of Calhoun Co, IL. Her brother was Leonard Becker also of Calhoun Co, IL. Her sister Genevieve died in 1878 in Monroe Co, IL. They had a brother named Aloys Becker. All were born in Baden. Let me know if you'd like more information. I have much more. Nancy mcdtax@earthlink.net

Re: Goetz from Maryhill, Ontario

langill_1 — 2011-05-30 11:50:38Z

Hi Judy, It is great to come in contact with you. Would you please contact me privately at boblangill@sympatico.ca as I would like to see the names and information of their children and descendants. Thank you.

Bob Langill, son of W.J. Langill & Muriel Goetz

Re: Goetz from Maryhill, Ontario

judydove52 — 2011-05-30 10:38:47Z

Hi

I'm the granddaughter of Simon Andrew Goetz (Gates) of Oshawa.
He however was not born in MaryHill. His Mother and Dad are buried in the Maryhill St Basil's Cemetry. I've been there once.
Grandpa and Grandma ( Margaret Gilmartin) were married there on Oct 16 1912. They produced 5 daughters and 1 son. They are all gone now.

Peter J. Goetz 1864-1935

milfall — 2011-05-04 13:21:40Z

Looking for any descendants of Peter J. Goetz. He was born in Germany, arrived in the U. S. in 1888, settled in the Pittsburgh area, married Alma A. Malsch.

Re: Ferdinand Goetz

DianeSteinbergLewis — 2011-04-07 19:07:39Z

The name was changed from Ferdinand Goetz to Gates. He emigrated from Gonbach Canton Winwriter Rheim Pf Atz., Germany. His mother, Joanna Goetz was recorded on his brother's will as still living in Germany.
Ferdinand was a cousin of a Gustav Carl Straus in Arkansas. He moved to Memphis later. He would have been my grandfather's grandfather.
I cannot believe since he was a businessman in DuVall's Bluff, Arkansas with Gates and Company stores in Lonoke, Des Arc and Cotton Plante, Ark. that there is not ONE photo or portrait of this man anywhere. He had a family and his daughter, Florence Gates who married Milton Steinberger, was once a debutante, and they always posted pictures of these groups. But no Ferdinand Gates. Does ANYONE have any photo so our family can see him?

Re: goetz in Brooklyn

gwennie2 — 2011-03-09 17:02:21Z

I wonder whether you know what part of Germany your Goetz family came from. Ours is from the area of the Rhineland-Palatinate, way west, over by France. Our Goetz great-grandfather Jak(c)ob, came from Edesheim Germany. He came to America in the 1840's or so---to Brooklyn where the 5 kids were born. Michael Goetz, Jacob's father, came later, in the late 1880's we think. Could we be from a family of Goetzes who started out in the same area of Germany? Maybe your husband's Martin was related to our Michael over in Edesheim? I had not heard that we were Jewish, but have often wondered. Our great-grandmother (Caroline Herzler, from Meisenheim Germany, who married Jacob Goetz here in the States) was definitely Catholic. (We have a church paper about her in her teens in Germany.) But, we are not so sure that our Goetz ancestors were Catholic. Have you been able to find out anything about where your husband's family came from in Germany? So good to hear from another Brooklyn-descended Goetz family. Do let me know whether you have any German-based information. Thanks so much. Gene Goetz Judge

Anna Goetz Germany to Buffalo NY

bestgrandma1990 — 2011-03-08 20:41:52Z

My 2nd Gr Grandparents Anna Goetz b abt 1850 m. abt 1870 to Frank Kirchgessner b abt 1850 . They were born in Germany. They had at least 2 children: Frank J (1872-1930) and Rosa (1875-1945) their children lived in the Buffalo area all their life. It seems there are a lot in the Rochester NY area and maybe someone has some information on them. I have hit a wall. Thanks

Re: goetz in Brooklyn

goetzfam11 — 2011-03-08 14:40:28Z

Sorry to be sooooo long replying to your post:
Martin Goetz (my husband's grandfather) arrived in Brooklyn as an infant in 1906, presumably from Poland. No one seems to know his parents' names. (They were always just Mom-mom and Pop-pop.) Siblings included Jean, Paul and Sol, but there may have been a step-mom and half-siblings. Martin lived his whole life in Brooklyn and worked, at least later in life, in a men's clothing store. His wife was Pauline Steiglitz, also from Eastern Europe, then Brooklyn. I've been impressed by the reticence of my husband's grandparents to talk about the places they left--they're all gone now, but none of their children remember them talking about it at all. Maybe not too surprising for people who were escaping pogroms.....

Re: goetz in Brooklyn

goetzfam11 — 2011-03-08 14:29:58Z

My husband's grandfather, Martin Goetz, arrived in Brooklyn as an infant in 1906. He married Lena Weinstein and had two children. He was very reticent about his parents (there's rumored to have been a step-mom and half-siblings) or where they came from (reluctance to talk about the places they left seems to be very common in Jews of Eastern Europe). I think we're on different tracks.... but thanks for your interest!

Goetz, Brooklyn, Jacob Goetz, Caroline Herzler, Germany

Norina1970 — 2011-03-06 13:49:13Z

We are looking to find members of our Goetz clan. Specifically, we want to locate Goetz family members who come from the Jacob Goetz and Caroline/Carolina (Herzler) marriage. Jacob was born in Edesheim Germany, Carolina was born in Meisenheim Germany. Jacob's and Caroline's kids were all born and grew up in Brooklyn, New York in the later 1800's and into the 1900's. The Goetz kids were Katherina Elizabetha, born February 14, 1879, died 4 months and 14 days later January 27, 1879; Elizabeth, born March 1880; Caroline/Carolina, born June 6, 1882; Jacob Valentin---who became James/Jake in later life--- born April 14, 1884; and William, born March 25, 1891. Son Jacob married a woman whose first name was Ernestine. Jacob and Ernestine Goetz had four children: Alfred, Rose Mary, James, and William---4 of Caroline's and Jacob's 6 known grandchildren. Daughter Caroline's (Carrie's) married name we believe was Montgomery. Daughter Elizabeth's (Lizzie's) married name was Walpole. Son William married Catherine Slade. They lived for years and years in Elmhurst, New York. William Goetz and Catherine Slade had 2 children: Margaret born in 1922, and William---our father---born in 1924. These are the last 2 of Jacob and Caroline's 6 known grandchildren. Jacob, the elder, was employed by "a gas company in Brooklyn." He died in 1905 as the result of an accident. We believe the accident was at the gas company, but are still looking for information and verification. Son Jacob/James/Jake is believed to have worked at a "pencil company" in Brooklyn. We are sure that New Jersey was home to some of our Goetz cousins in the 1900's. And, of course, the New York area is a good bet, too.

Re: goetz in Brooklyn

gwennie2 — 2011-03-04 22:17:26Z

We are looking for our Goetz family from Brooklyn. Because you responded to the query looking for Brooklyn Goetz family people, I thought a query to you might prove helpful to us. Are you a Brooklyn-descended Goetz?

Our family started in Brooklyn with Jacob and Caroline (Herzler) Goetz. Both came from the same part of Gemany---Jacob from Edesheim and Caroline from Meisenheim. Their kids---all born in Brooklyn from 1880 through 1891---were Jacob (who later became James/Jake), Caroline, Elizabeth and William. There might have been another daughter Catherine.

Thanks so much. Gene Goetz Judge

Re: goetz in Brooklyn

gwennie2 — 2011-03-04 22:14:28Z

We are looking for our Goetz family from Brooklyn, too. Our family started with Jacob and Caroline (Herzler) Goetz. Their kids---all born in the 1880 through 1891---were Jacob (who later became James/Jake), Caroline, Elizabeth and William. There might have been another daughter Catherine.

The first names you have listed are not familiar to me. But, I thought a response might be in order because the Brooklyn connection has proved SO difficult as we search.

ARe you still looking?

Thanks so much. Gene Goetz Judge

Re: Goetz family in Milwaukee

marykbruno — 2011-02-04 00:26:57Z

Koehler

My grandfather Martin lived in Mainz and settled in NJ. He had older siblings who settled in Wisconsin. I don't know their names. His father was Peter Koehler and mother was Gertrude Riel

Which Frankfurt?

WGFGER — 2010-11-23 11:47:44Z

And when he was born?

Regards, Wolfgang

Re: Germans from Russia-Goetz

davmartoby — 2010-09-06 16:34:15Z

My Great-Grandmother's name was Mary Goetz, first child was a Magdalena, they were all from a small town on border of Germany/Russia. When the town was under Russia My Great-Grandparents sent the older children to Canada. Years later they finally left with my Grandmother Anna and a brother Peter. Peter died in World War I have newspaper article of his death. I know that once they left through Russia, they met up with the older children in Canada, then went to Colorado, from Colorado they moved to Portland Oregon, SE area off Foster and Holgate. My Aunt still lives in this area. I know that my Grandfather was from Colorado, think that is where Anna met him. I know that Mary's home in SE portland was sold to my grandparents, my father and his 2 sisiters was born/raised in this house. My first cousin bought this house from my grandfather prior to his death in Oct 1981. I know that Anna died around 1967-68 because I was under the age of 5 at the time.
When my Uncle Neil retired from Crown Z in the 90's, the gal prossing his retirement noticed my Aunts Maiden name of Goetz. She then realized that we were connected to the older children who had settled in Canada. In fact they had very little information about my grandmother. My Aunt (MaryAnn (MaryAnna)Connors (her maiden name)) at the time contacted the Goetz's in Canada, recieved in the mail a binder of the Goetz family history. I have seen this 1 time right after she got it. If what i have been told is true, the first born girl Magdalena was not my Great-Grandfathers Goetz's child.
If by chance you are part of this family tree please contact me
davmartoby@aol.com
I am also on facebook. Marilyn Connors Tobler
Thank you for you time.
M.Tobler

Re: My Goetz ancestors

davmartoby — 2010-09-06 16:33:09Z

Re: Goetz from Maryhill, Ontario

davmartoby — 2010-09-06 16:26:12Z

Capt. Dale A Goetz of White, S.D. d. 30 Aug 2010

RIP_10 — 2010-09-02 12:21:28Z

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=13851

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 791-10
September 01, 2010
DOD Identifies Army Casualties

The Department of Defense announced today the deaths of five soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. They died Aug. 30 in the Arghandab River Valley, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device. All were based at Fort Carson, Colo.

Killed were: (See link for complete release.)

Capt. Dale A Goetz, 43, of White, S.D. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division.

For more information media may contact the Fort Carson public affairs office at 719-526-7525; after hours 719-526-5500.

U.S. Department of Defense
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)
********
Not related. Posted for genealogical purposes only.

Re: Goetz all I have

Michele1st — 2010-08-12 15:52:45Z

Yes I was wondering, Joseph Schriener, when was he born??? My grnadfather was Joseph Schriener(b. 1912) and His father was Joseph Schriener(b.??) not sure who he was married to though....

Re: Goetz from Maryhill, Ontario

langill_1 — 2010-07-26 11:59:01Z

Hi Nicole, Laurent Goetz was my ancestor Casimir Goetz's brother. I have a lot of information on this line, and I am missing alot of Laurent (Lawrence) Goetz's descendants.

Laurent's parents were Michael Goetz & Marie Eve Doppler, of Soufflenheim, Alsace. The goetz family was found in Soufflenheim records from ca 1740.

Could you please contact me privately, and I will send you a genealogy tree.

boblangill@sympatico.ca

Re: Goetz from Maryhill, Ontario

pattern241972 — 2010-07-26 04:09:40Z

Hello,

I am researching my friend's family who descends from Laurent Goetz. She descends from Laurent's grandson Simon Goetz/Gates (who was born in Maryhill) and ran a butcher shop in Oshawa.

I am interested in the origins of the Goetz famly in Alsace-Loraine.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Nicole

Budesheim & Götz

WGFGER — 2010-07-23 07:26:59Z

"Kreisanzeiger am Mittwoch" vom 21. Juli 2010:

Wir heiraten am 22. Juli 2010 im Standesamt zu Friedlos.

Sina Budesheim & Sebastian Goetz

Gepoltert wird ab 19.00 Uhr in der Lutherstr. 8 a in Friedlos (Hessen) und ab 20.00 Uhr wird in der Giegenberghuette gefeiert.

Die kirchliche Trauung findet am 24. Juli 2010 um 15.30 Uhr in der St. Mauritiuskirche in Schenklengsfeld statt.

Mary Goetz

valskis77 — 2010-07-23 03:19:19Z

Hello,

My Great Great Grandmother's name was Mary Goetz Aronson. She was born in Russia from what I understand. She was born around 1898 and married Jacob Aronson. They had 3 children; Lester, Selma & Irwin.

I am trying to find out my family history on my mother's side and I am trying to find out more about her and her parents/family.

If anybody knows anything I would appreciate it if you would let me know. My e-mail is: valskis@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Valerie

Records from Panuco in Xalapa now

pachecoike — 2010-06-30 19:18:58Z

Hello Eileen,

I'm doing some genealogy work for my family right now and I was wondering if you are from Xalapa Veracruz, Mexico? If so, that is where church/public records were taken from Panuco some time ago.

Isac Pacheco

Re: Xavier GOETZ / GOTZ Soufflenheim>Ontario, Canada> Dayton, Ohio

langill_1 — 2010-06-27 14:39:37Z

Hi Dave, would you please reply to me directly, as I wish to compare family trees.

boblangill@sympatico.ca

Re: Maretta Nearing

marettanearing1 — 2010-06-24 04:06:45Z

I don't know if you are still looking for me or not...my husband's Nearing's have roots in New Brunswick, not Nova Scotia. Hope you have been able to find some info in the last 10 years!

Re: Xavier GOETZ / GOTZ Soufflenheim>Ontario, Canada> Dayton, Ohio

dfg12080661 — 2010-06-23 15:07:33Z

Im not sure exactly what your looking for but my father is a direct decentant from and Xavier goetz in Alsace Germany. from what I know Francis Goetz (my father) Is the son and I am his grandson. I do have contact with the family in Germany from time to time. As I am told Xavier had come to the US in the early 1900 during the war and registered in New York as an immigrant sponsored by the roman catholic Church. He lived in RI. and worked for them until he died. I hope I helped in some way and am interested in hearing more.

Thanks
Dave Goetz

Re: goetz in Brooklyn

Carolyn_Goetz — 2010-06-07 09:54:35Z

Could you supply a little more information on your GOETZ family? When were they born and where? Were they born in the United States or elsewhere. If they immigrated, from
where? Who were their parents? In 1910 were they living together or married and living seperately? Did they continue to live in Brooklyn or did they move elsewhere, if so where?

GOETZ Garrett 1923 1996 tec5 US Army W W II

t42Hilltop_DalCoTX — 2010-05-22 23:30:11Z

GOETZ Garrett 1923 1996 tec5 US Army W W II

DavidStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Hilltop Memorial Park Cemetery, Carrollton, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records.

This is one of the 214,103 cemetery photos free for your personal use at http://teafor2.com
If you have more info, please reply here rather than emailing me because this is not my family.

GOETZ Dorothy Ann 1930 1971

t42Hilltop_DalCoTX — 2010-05-21 14:55:41Z

GOETZ Dorothy Ann 1930 1971

DavidStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Hilltop Memorial Park Cemetery, Carrollton, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records.

This is one of the 213,122 cemetery photos free for your personal use at http://teafor2.com
If you have more info, please reply here rather than emailing me because this is not my family.

GOETZ Garrett 1923 1996

t42Hilltop_DalCoTX — 2010-05-21 14:51:20Z

GOETZ Garrett 1923 1996

DavidStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Hilltop Memorial Park Cemetery, Carrollton, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records.

This is one of the 213,122 cemetery photos free for your personal use at http://teafor2.com
If you have more info, please reply here rather than emailing me because this is not my family.

Re: Xavier GOETZ / GOTZ Soufflenheim>Ontario, Canada> Dayton, Ohio

Shankerthedogs — 2010-05-10 22:40:27Z

Hi, This is also so interesting to me My Great Great Grandmother was Mathilda Goetz..who married Ignatius Brohman in New Germany I need get some info out of my files But I know she was related to Mathias..I remember the name She also had a sister named Justina..There are several folks in Canada researching this line..I have found so much info there..Toni Bytoni55@msn.com
Great Great Grandaughter of Mathida (Goetz) Brohman

Re: Xavier GOETZ / GOTZ Soufflenheim>Ontario, Canada> Dayton, Ohio

jarecht — 2010-05-09 16:50:14Z

thank you very much for your answer.

no doubt your ancestors came from Soufflenheim, because Messner, Goetz, Uhrig, Mosser or Stieffelmeyer are DEFINITIVELY family names from this village !

I'm going next month to a Messner family reunion in Missouri, so I hopefully shall have more infos about their tracks in America and shall let you know.

You are right about their way through Canada.Many Soufflenheimers made a first stop at New Germany/Maryhill (Ontario), did you heard about ?
I myself recently visited a village called Formosa (Ont), where the Messners built the church and school. The cemetary is a moving place with all the same names than in Soufflenheim ! I can send some pictures.

Yes, the main stream of emigration was in the mid 1800s.But I'm sure some families from Soufflenheim emigrated earlier: I know a Kieffer who took the ship in 1830,with his whole family (wife and 7 children) while my grandma's uncles only went around 1900.So my feeling is that the migrants and the other ones were sort of keeping in touch more that what we'd think...

I would be very pleased to see your picture of the former Goetz pottery in Ohio - I really wonder if they were keeping the same patterns for their pots and plates. Here is a picture of my own "collection".

the Bible is interesting, because it's mostly a Protestant tradition and Soufflenheim always was a Catholic village - so I guess the book must rather be a family missal, no ? and of course it's written in German - mind they were speaking Alsatian !

I'm to print your list of names and shall let you know if I found some in my lists too.
have a nice day,

PS. do you know that this very week end is potters' feast at Soufflenheim ? :-)

Re: Xavier GOETZ / GOTZ Soufflenheim>Ontario, Canada> Dayton, Ohio

lisasl — 2010-05-09 13:51:33Z

Thank you so much for your post!
My Soufflenheim ancestors migrated to Canton, OH and Waterloo, Canada in the mid 1800s. From there, they came to Dayton, OH where they started the Oakwood Pottery. The pottery was torn down and a company called NCR was built.

I have one piece of the pottery. I also have a few pictures that I can send to you.

In addition to that, someone in the family owns a Bible with family history written in it. I have copies I can send, but it is written in German.

I know that my ancestors are as follows:
My Great Grandmother, Ellenora Goetz Swain
Her father and mother, Mathias Goetz and Sophia Messner.
Mathias was born in Alsace in 1814 and had two brothers that we know of, Bernard and Fr. Francis Joseph. Two other Goetzs show up in the records, Xavier(1821-1891) , who lived in Waterloo, Canada, wrote in the bible on his death bed, and is buried in Dayton.(may be Mathias' cousin)
Florence Goetz (1805-1871), lived with Mathias and Bernard in Canton, OH and later in Dayton, OH.(may be Mathias' Uncle).
Sopia Messner's sister , Crescentia, also from "Baden", married Mathias' brother Bernard.

On the internet, I found the following family "tree". I don't have proof, but there are many matches:
Mathias Goetz (married Sophia Messner.)
Francois Joseph Goetz (married Ricarde Ulrich)
Francois Antoin Goetz (married Marguarite Mosser) * note: "Antoin Gotz" is listed in the family bible.
Mathias Goetz (Married Ursula Stiffelmeyer)
I haven't gone back much further, but there is mention of a Wendel Goetz in the 1600s in Soufflenheim records.

Thank you again and I look forward to hearing from you,
Lisa

Re: Xavier GOETZ / GOTZ Soufflenheim>Ontario, Canada> Dayton, Ohio

jarecht — 2010-05-03 07:30:21Z

hello, I just found and read your notes and all the answers with the greatest interest.

Here are some precisions.
You are right about Soufflenheim and the potters : a story more than 1000 years old !
sooo, how could I help you ? well, I'm sort of going backward compared to you ;-) the reason why I was VERY interested in reading that they emigrated there just to do the same job they were (well) doing at home ! I didn't know the Soufflenheimers went till Ohio...What is remaining from this Dayton pottery now ?

I'm French and living at about 3 hours from Soufflenheim and all my father family was living there from... eternity I guess ;-))
YES, the Goetz were in Soufflenheim, one of the most numerous family there, so it's good and bad news : you will certainly find LOTS of people related to you who can help, BUT it's like to find a needle in a truss of hay !
Drusenheim is just a hamlet 10 minutes down to the Rhine.

My own link with a Goetz, concerned Marguerite Goetz who married Michel Albrecht the Elder (1769-1855). He was a widower and she died young in 1821.
Any other family names from Soufflenheim in your genealogical tree ?
Now I'm closer to the Messners who are FOR SURE a well known family at Soufflenheim too. So I would like to know if you are sure your Messners are not from Soufflenheim ? Mind that they could have been born at Baden(now in Germany) depends on their birth date, as a lot of people of soufflenheim crossed the Rhine during the French Revolution by example...
well, more food for thought...

please feel free to ask more

Re: Goetz in IL

acannavo — 2010-04-16 12:49:06Z

I am researching my gg grandmother Teresa Daack and wonder if your line might be related. She was born in Hannover Germany in 1836 and married George Gregory Becker in Calhoun County IL in 1855. They had 12 children and I am descended from their son, George William.
acannavo@comcast.net