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Re: Frederick Stanley Greenhalgh and Hilma Pauline Westrand Vancouver BC Canada

KathrynMurraySentell69 — 2012-05-22 20:20:09Z

Dearest Donalda, I had tears in my eyes when I read your post. I hope you are enjoying your retirement! How many times I have thought of you over the years and smiled at how you found and saved a piece of our family history!!!! I am working feverishly on getting the Sentell family history finished (which included my Aunt and Uncle Hilma and Fred Greenhalgh). Actually managed to trace back to 1306 (blood sweat and TEARS!!!!!!!!) and am now adding it onto Ancestry after downloading it on Genebase first (and had DNA tested...that was fun!!!!)...... Please let me know how you are doing!!!! Because TRULY!!!!!! Your random act of kindness has always stuck with me and I will NEVER forget you!!! kathryn

Re: Frederick Stanley Greenhalgh and Hilma Pauline Westrand Vancouver BC Canada

DMcCusker0742 — 2012-05-18 22:59:21Z

Hello Kathryn. I was reading your posts and gosh hard to believe it was so long ago. Hope you are getting all the info you could possible want. I left Vancouver a few months after I saw you, retired up to the Okanagan. I have spent most of retirement doing family history. :)
I have relayed the story of the marriage certificate many times and shown people the wonderful towels you and your Mom did and gave to me.
Hope all is well with you and your family,
Donalda

Re: Frederick Stanley Greenhalgh and Hilma Pauline Westrand Vancouver BC Canada

gpetrov1 — 2012-05-18 01:56:39Z

Thank you,
Gail,
Canada

Re: Frederick Stanley Greenhalgh and Hilma Pauline Westrand Vancouver BC Canada

KathrynMurraySentell69 — 2012-05-17 21:05:34Z

Am currently working on the family tree. I know they lived in Vancouver BC but sorry to say I have no information which could help you at this time. If I find anything I promise to post

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williammcfadden621 — 2012-04-10 17:29:34Z

can any one help with info on a ELIZABETH GREENHALGH born abt 1825 SCOTLAND . LIVING WITH HER DAU ELIZABETH CHURTON. 1891 IN RAMSBOTTOM LANCASHIRE.(WIDOW)THAN'S willchris_37@yahoo.co.uk (BILL MCFADDEN.

Greenhalgh - Lancashire England -1718

mickg1948 — 2012-04-08 13:50:08Z

Hello...++++++++++++++++++++

I've traced my history back to Thomas Greenhalgh born 1718 died 1778, married to Mary Greenhalgh (Nee ?????) b1724 died ????.++++++++++++++++++

Thomas was the son of John Greenhalgh and Anne Greenhalgh (Nee Agecroft) dates unknown, but going from the birth year of Thomas (1718), I've aged John as between 25 to 35 at the time of Thomas's birth, that would give John a birth year of 1688 +/- 5 years.+++++++++++++++++++

Does anyone have any information on John & Anne Greenhalgh or any earlier relatives.+++++++++++++++

mickg

Re: Greenhalgh family in Rhode Island

ErikVolk — 2012-02-05 17:17:21Z

I see this message is VERY old but on the off chance that some people may still be notified of the thread...thought I would add some info.

I am descended from the Greenhalgh family in RI but not sure if it is the same one. My great great grandfather is John F. Greenhalgh but he was born in NYC and came to RI/MA as a young man. His parents were James & ELizabeth Greenhalgh of NYC but they were originally from England.

John married Margaret Cullen in Waltham, MA (which is where her family resided) and ultimately settled in Pawtucket, RI.

They had five children: Mary, Margaret, Andrew, William and Joseph.

Would love to share more info if this is a connection. Let me know! Thanks!

Erik Volk
Attleboro, MA

Re: Greenhalgh family in Rhode Island

ErikVolk — 2012-02-05 17:17:21Z

James & Elizabeth Greenhalgh of NYC (circa 1840)

ErikVolk — 2012-02-05 16:23:35Z

Searching for information on my great great grandfather John F. Greenhalgh (1845-1907) who was born in NYC but moved to Pawtucket, RI and married Margaret Cullen in Waltham, MA. His parents were from England and I am guessing lived in NYC in the 1840s since that is when he was born. Any information would be helpful on the parents or any of his potential siblings. Thank you!

Erik Volk
Attleboro, MA

Re: GREENHALGH FROM BOLTON, LANCASHIRE

Geniegma — 2012-01-14 23:42:52Z

Alice Greenhalgh was born Harwood in about 1820. Married to Thomas May 1839 in Ainsworth, Christ Church. 1841 living in Tongue w/Haulgh with Thos. & dtr Mary Ann, age 1. 1851 living in Sharples w/dtr Mary Ann 11,Sarah 9, John 7, Alice 5, Luke 3, Elizabeth 8 mo. Thomas had preceded them to America. He returned and the entire family (+2 more children, Martha & Isabella) arrived in Boston in 1854. They settled in Kent County, Rhode Island. Thomas was a Printer, I believe in the cotton mill. In 1860 R.I. Census his occupation was listed as Calico Printer.

Would like to know ancestors of both Alice Greenhalgh and Thomas May.

Re: Looking for Ancestors of Robert Greenhalgh

Lost1or2 — 2011-12-26 16:11:03Z

hi i have a robert greenhalgh from bolton lancashire england, married 25 june 1910 age 25,lived at 73 mere hall street bolton just prior to marriage ,to miss henrietta simcox. his father was also robert greenhalgh but i have no idea who the mothers /wives were...do you have any matches to this info? children of the mariage were harold earnest irene and jack....not sure of birth order, but irene phoebe was born 2nd oct 1916 and died 24th dec 2004, kind regards, amanda

Re: Greenhalgh/Walmsley Bolton

Lost1or2 — 2011-12-26 16:01:21Z

hi, trying to find the greenhalgh/simcox lines from bolton lancashire.marriage of henrietta simcox to robert greenhalgh was 25 june 1910, grooms father robert greenhalgh,brides father jeremiah simcox, families resided 73 merehall street bolton and 22 gaskill street bolton had daughter irene phoebe born 2nd october1916 must have moved from the area cant find them other than this wedding date...grateful if you have any insight, amanda

Re: GREENHALGH'S FROM BOLTON

Lost1or2 — 2011-12-26 15:45:22Z

Hi ya, wondering if you have a Henrietta Greenhalgh nee Simcox married a Robert Greenhalgh 25th June 1910 fletcher street Wesleyan methodist Chapel Bolton Lancashire England. She was my ggmother on my mums side. trying to find his and her parents...Brides father was Jeremiah Simcox and grooms father was Robert Greenhalgh. henrietta lived 22Gaskill street Bolton and Robert junior lived 73 Mere Hall street Bolton. looking for any links kind regards, Amanda Huf

Re: Family name

Spirit1776 — 2011-07-24 15:33:01Z

Hi: I'm researching Greenalch for my cousin. Her grandmother married James Edward Greenalch born 9 Feb 1853 in England died in 13 Dec 1888 in Cameron County of Smallpox. He married Eliza Ann McCormick on 25 Dec 1878 in Emporium, she was b. 10 Feb 1864 in Sugar Valley, Clinton County; d. 16 Mar 1938 in Seminole, Armstrong County, PA They had 4 children John Henry b. 6 Apr 1880 Clinton Co, PA, 5 March 1881; Thomas Edward b. 25 Dec 1881, d. 7 Sep 1961; William Lovern b. 3 Oct 1884, d 18 Dec 1952 in Meadeville, Crawford Co, PA & Gertrude May b. 6 Mar 1887, d. 9 Dec 1901 Elk Co, PA. I found an Edward J son of Ellis & Ester Greenalch in 1870 census Jay Township, Elk County. Is James Edward one & the same as Edward J Greenalch? Any help would be appreciated. Linda

Greenhalgh Nottingham

janetgun — 2011-07-11 05:16:18Z

I'm looking for info on James Greenhalgh b1816 born & lived in Nottingham, daughter Mary Ann b1845 m Thomas Wood 1865.
Anyone else? Janet

Elias Greenhalgh,*Served: Union ,Corporal,1 Apr 1865.Cavalry Regiment Pennsylvania ,

KENNELLYMARKA — 2011-01-03 02:45:19Z

Elias Greenhalgh.
American Civil War Soldiers.

Name: Elias Greenhalgh
Enlistment Date: 20 Jan 1864
Side Served: Union
State Served: Pennsylvania
Service Record: Enlisted as a Corporal on 20 January 1864.
Enlisted in Company G, 20th Cavalry Regiment Pennsylvania on 20 Jan 1864.
Promoted to Full Corporal on 1 Apr 1865.
Transferred into Company G, 1st Prov Cavalry Regiment Pennsylvania on 17 Jun 1865.
Transferred out of Company G, 20th Cavalry Regiment Pennsylvania on 17 Jun 1865 at Washington, DC.
Mustered Out Company G, 1st Prov Cavalry Regiment Pennsylvania on 13 Jul 1865 at Cloud's Mills, VA.

Re: William Greenhalgh

howmart57_1 — 2010-12-27 18:34:08Z

The Canadian soldier referred to in ScottMgaill18's reply was my grandfather, Alfred Greenhalgh, who was killed in WWI. Hies sons wereErnest and Charles were my uncles. His daughter, Doris, was my mother.

I hope this clarifies.

GREENHALGH Larry D - Vietnam Wall section 29W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2010-12-26 19:28:35Z

GREENHALGH Larry D - Vietnam Wall section 29W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 219,079 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: GREENHALGH'S FROM BOLTON

ericKingston770 — 2010-12-09 21:20:45Z

Hi
I have a james greenhalgh born 1797 in Bolton who married Ann Rothwell born 1817 in Eccles who had a daughter Alice gr born 1823 who in turn married William kingston my GR GR father. if you can make a connection i would be pleased to hear from you .

all the best eric

GREENHALGH Kent 1936-3010 b. Bellaire, Ohio

Lace_Lynch — 2010-12-03 14:33:23Z

Kent Greenhalgh, age 74, passed away on Wednesday, December 1, 2010.
Preceded in death by parents Charles and Elizabeth Greenhalgh.
He was born August 8, 1936 in Bellaire, OHIO, and was a 1955 graduate of McKinley Vocational High School, Wheeling West Virginia.
He worked briefly for the Wheeling Steel Corporation blast furnace #4 in Benwood, W.V.
He was married to the former Janet Paulus, and then enlisted in the US Navy where he witnessed the last atomic bomb tests conducted in the atmosphere.
During these tests he crossed the equator and International Date line numerous times. He was honorably discharged as Boatswain Mate second class.
He and his family moved to Columbus, OHIO in 1964 where he went to work for the Otis Elevator Co.
He also joined the Union of Elevator Constructors and was a member of IUEC Local 37, and stayed at the trade for 35 years, after that he went to work for the State of Ohio as an elevator inspector.
His other interests were water skiing, boat building, chess, computers, restoring antique cars and flying his powered parachute.

He was a lifetime member of the Columbus Aqua Ski Club, where he served as president and vice president for many years.
He is survived by the mother of his children, Janet; daughter, Jennifer; sons, Christopher and Scott (Penny); grandchildren, Kaitlyn, Lauren, Courtney and Cortlan. Friends may call at JERRY SPEARS FUNERAL HOME, 2693 W. Broad St., Friday 4-7 p.m. Graveside service and interment 10 a.m. Saturday at Linwood Cemetery, Bellaire, OHIO.

Published in The Columbus Dispatch from December 2 to December 3, 2010Published online in The Columbus Dispatch from December 1 to December 3, 2010

belmont

GREENHALGH Terry L - Vietnam Wall section 36W - our honor and thanks to those who put their lives on the line for us

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2010-11-28 12:38:46Z

GREENHALGH Terry L - Vietnam Wall section 36W - our honor and thanks to those who put their lives on the line for us

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 218,953 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: Henry Greenhalgh

jonstranger — 2010-06-30 12:49:49Z

I was interested to see your post as I had come across Henry Greenhalgh (grocer) while researching Pashlers (my maternal grandmother's family). Or rather I was aware of Henry Greenhalgh from his and Sarah's marriage certificate but had never been able to locate him on a census return. I have Sarah in 1841 in Duke Street, Marylebone with her brother and sister George and Jane, and then in 1851 in Nassau Street, Marylebone, with her brother John and family. But then the next time that I have found her is in 1881 in Alvington Crescent, Dalston, Hackney, widow, with children John, (Sarah) Jemima and Sarah Jane (although I have found Jemima in 1861 in Dorset).

I am quite prepared to believe that the Henry Greenhalgh you have found in 1841 in Henry Street, St. Pancras, is the same Henry, since the occupation and location fit. But I am curious about the other Henry Greenhalgh (aged 20) and Mary Greenhalgh (aged 22) who are on the next page of the 1841 census and appear to be in the same household. And I would really like to find out where Henry and Sarah are in 1861 and 1871.

Re: Frederick Stanley Greenhalgh and Hilma Pauline Westrand Vancouver BC Canada

GPetrov — 2010-03-04 00:57:44Z

Have noticed your responses to DMcCusker with great interest. Wondering if you have a Herbert Greenhalgh married to Agnes Edith Harvey b 1905 Northumberland, England, in your family tree. Am connected thru the Rutherford side, Agnes is a dtr of Isabella Rutherford mar. to William Harvey. Have the Greenhalgh family residing Vancouver Nov 1969. Have no further info on Herbert.
Gail
Canada

Re: Greenhalgh descendants in Australia

brendanofarrell45 — 2010-02-20 21:32:01Z

Hi ,
My wife Janice was a descendent of Mary Shaw's Sister Fanny , both Fanny and Mary were born out of wedlock to Rachel [unknown Father]
Fanny Shaw was the mother of Joseph Shaw who was Jans ggg Grandfather .

Cheers ,
Brendan

Greenhalgh, Dumers Lane, Radcliffe, England

practicalmagic60_1 — 2010-02-18 14:21:54Z

John Greenhalgh (b. 1839) married Mary Ann Hardman (b.1836) 4/10/1860 in Radcliffe. One son, Adam, born 7/17/1860, who came to the US with his Mother via the port of Philadelphia or New Jersey (my Great Grandfather).
John's Father was Samuel Greenhalgh, and Mary Ann's was Adam Hardman.
I am trying to trace my lineage farther back than the above mentioned relatives. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!!!

Re: Henry Greenhalgh

NoraMcL — 2009-12-27 15:29:57Z

Jane (?)- have you found any new information regarding your Greenhalgh family? I am interested in the background for your family, because some of them lived at St. Pancras, where my Greenhalgh's also lived. I would like to assume that if your Henry Greenhalgh was a surgeon, the family had money and some social standing.

My earliest ancestor is James Greenhalgh born about 1785, but I don't know where. Have no idea who his parents were or if he had siblings. He was a merchant living in London in the early 1800's. TWO of his sons became doctors also- one was Dr. Robert Greenhalgh who practised in London under Dr. William Jenner, and his brother Dr. James H. Greenhalgh practised in France, where he died. Their mother and James Greenhalgh senior's wife was Mary Ann Boyce born 1796, daughter of Robert Boyce and Mary Horton. The two doctor brothers had one sister Mary Sarah Greenhalgh born 1824 at St. Pancras, who is my 3X great grandmother.

Could there be a connection I wonder between our families?

Who were the seven children of Dr. Henry Greenhalgh and Mary Chester? I have Henry born March 5, 1807, William born about 1816/1817, David born about 1836 (does he later show up in London with 1807 Henry?), Sarah Ann born about 1823-1826...who were the other three children?

Who was 1807 Henry Greenhalgh's first wife and mother of his children? On the 1841 census he is living on Henry Street in Middlesex County age 33 years, a widower, and is also a widower in 1851, however I found two marriages for him:

April 26, 1844 at St. Pancras he married Jemima Good, daughter of John Good, his occupation was Grocer, his father's name was Henry Greenhalgh who was a Surgeon

April 22, 1851 he married Sarah PASHLER, daughter of Thomas Pashler, witness to this marriage was Sarah Ann Greenhalgh, most likely his sister (from the 1851 census at St. Pancras).

Hope to hear from you,

Thanks from Nora

Re: Greenhalgh Lanchashire, England

vonnielou591 — 2009-11-13 03:42:42Z

I may related to you, Carole. My Gr-Gr-Grandfather was William Greenhalgh and his father was James Greenhalgh and his 2nd wife was Ellen Hindley. When the family lefted Lancashire, England and moved to Nephi, Utah. The dates are off a little william was born june 15, 1828

Greenhalgh/Lomax/Crompton Tottington Lancashire

sandracook263 — 2009-07-25 16:18:54Z

I have access to records from St Johns free church Tottington, Lancashire and can get images of headstones buildings etc in the Tottington, Radcliffe Bury areas if anyone would like me to 'look up' info I would be more than happy to do so.

Re: Greenhalgh in Stockport England

kjjones2008 — 2009-07-23 05:02:13Z

I have some info. on a Dr. Thomas Greenhalgh who was born in Oldham in 1834. At a relative early age he moved to Heaton Norris in Stockport. The last census entry i have is the 1891 census when he resided in Wellington Rd. Heaton Norris. He married a Getrude Lomax in 1874. I believe he was the elder brother of my Gr. Grandfather, William Greenhalgh

Re: Greenhalgh castle

KevinGreenhalgh — 2009-06-07 20:18:34Z

I was at the sealed Knot event at Garstang and took a few images and have made quite a few entries about the castle on my site www.greenhalgh-web.co.uk

I am sure that after all this time you guys have found this info, but I thought I would post just in case.

Kind regards

Kevin Greenhalgh

Re: Harold Richardson Greenhalgh

petergreenhalgh2 — 2009-06-04 19:55:12Z

Harold Richardson Greenhalgh was born in the Dec Q 1894 at Warrington son of Harold & Sarah A nee Richardson.

Harold Greenhalgh m Sarah A Ricardson in the June Q 1892 at Warrington.

see rg13/3538 fo90 p32

Re: Greenhalgh of Grasmere St area ,Astley Bridge Bolton, Lancashire, England

jeanrostron1 — 2009-06-04 19:25:53Z

i will print that out thank you.
I'm now trying to find Edward son of Alice, born 1946.
I'm in touch with family, so will send print out to them, cheers Jean.

Re: Greenhalgh of Grasmere St area ,Astley Bridge Bolton, Lancashire, England

petergreenhalgh2 — 2009-06-04 18:48:04Z

GREENHALGH, EDWARD
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: The Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire)
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 19/08/1943
Service No: 3866052
Additional information: Son of Edward and Annie Greenhalgh, of Bolton, Lancashire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. E. 6.
Cemetery: BONE WAR CEMETERY, ANNABA

Edward Greenhalgh married Annie Hatton in the Dec Q 1918 at Bolton. Children were Alice 1919, Edward 1923 and Annie 1929 all at Bolton.

Re: Greenhalgh in Stockport England

petergreenhalgh2 — 2009-06-04 18:26:21Z

Stockport is a big place. Specifics are required.

Henry Greenhalgh

janessaharris — 2009-04-07 12:29:07Z

Hi I'm trying to track down the ancestors of Henry Greenhalgh born in about 1778. He married Mary Esther Chester in Morville Shropshire on 23 Jan 1806 and went on to father 7 children. The 1841 census shows that Henry was born outside Shropshire and that his occupation was that of surgeon. Any help will be gratefully received!

Re: Greenhalgh descendants in Australia

JanKnighton1949 — 2009-04-05 12:46:32Z

Hi, I am researching the Greenhalgh family in Australia and am particularly interested in James GREENHALGH born 1823 Elton Manchester England. He died in Penrith NSW in 1866. Wifes name was Ann and they had 7 children. I don't know James' parents so maybe we are researching the same family.
James had a son Samuel born in Lancashire 1845 and his last child Joseph was born in 1859 Manchester so they must have migrated after that. Please contact me at jansews@bigpond.net.au

Re: Peter and Hannah in 26 May 1851 Philadelphia Passenger List

jogreenhalgh — 2009-01-12 05:01:53Z

Richard- Thank you so much for all of your trouble. I did have the census records you listed and the passenger list. But I had no idea how to go about finding their marriage info in England, so thanks a lot for the information. I'll contact the records office and see about getting a copy of their marriage certificate as you suggested. Again, thanks for your help.
Jo Greenhalgh

Peter and Hannah in 26 May 1851 Philadelphia Passenger List

RichardGreenough — 2009-01-11 18:40:06Z

I find Peter and Hannah recorded as "Peter Grennall" and "Hannah Grennall", ages 24 and 21, in the arrival list at Philadelphia on 26 May 1851 on Ship Tonawanda (image attached) arriving from Liverpool. I wonder if there is a passenger list for Peter and Hannah leaving Liverpool that might give info on their English origins?

Index entries for them in Ancestry.com's database of the Philadelphia Passenger lists are:

Name: Peter Grennall
Arrival Date: 26 May 1851
Age: 24 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Tonawanda
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Microfilm Roll Number: M425_72

Name: Hannah Grennall
Arrival Date: 26 May 1851
Age: 21 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Tonawanda
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Microfilm Roll Number: M425_72

Re: Please help find Peter C. GREENHALGH

RichardGreenough — 2009-01-10 21:33:46Z

Hi, I'm not related at all, but have one suggestion.

The 1851 marriage is listed in the UK Civil Registration Index: separate entries for Hannah Crook and Peter Greenhalgh both cite to Bolton Registration District in Greater Manchaster/Lancashire in Apr-May-Jun Quarter of 1851, Volume 21, Page 87.

http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=17091748&...

http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=17080140&...

You could order the marriage cert from the General Register Office (GRO) and it should include bride's and groom's names and places of residence, their fathers' names, church name and location, and witness names. [Last year, I ordered a marriage cert from 1849 and it had those elements.]

Online ordering for the General Register Office is at:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Other options for ordering are described at:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/order_certificates/obtain_...

Other records I find for Peter and Hannah Greenhalgh:

1910 US Census
Peter and Hannah Greenhalgh
Reedsburg Ward 1, Sauk Co., Wisconsin

1905 Wisconsin State Census
Peter Greenhalgh (age 79, born in England; recorded with wife, age 75, and daughter, Carrie age 21 -- too young to be natural daughter of Peter's wife)
Reedsburg, Sauk Co., Wisconsin

1900 US Census
Peter and Hannah Greenhalgh (last name transcribed as "Greenlalgh" in the Ancestry.com index of the 1900 census)
Peter Born May 1826, Immigration Year 1851
Residence in 1900: Reedsburg City, Sauk Co., Wisconsin

1880 US Census
Peter "Greenaulgh" and Hannah (with 2 children and John Crook age 78)
La Valle, Sauk Co., Wisconsin

1860 US Census
Peter Greenhalgh ("Greenhaldh") and Hannah with 3 children
Ironton, Sauk Co., Wisconsin
Dwelling Number 1391

Please help find Peter C. GREENHALGH

jogreenhalgh — 2009-01-08 00:46:08Z

I have been researching my husband's Greenhalgh ancestors and have hit the "brick wall". To date, I have this information of which I am certain: Peter C. GREENHALGH b. 1826 Lancashire England d. 1918 California m. Hannah CROOK 1851 immigrated 1851. I suspect his parents may have been Robert GREENHALGH and Martha BOARDMAN, but I have had no luck finding any substantial record of him and/or his parents prior to his arrival in the US. If anyone could help me verify his parents and get back into the hunt, I'd truly appreciate it.

Re: Greenhalgh descendants in Australia

allengreenhalgh — 2008-11-13 11:21:53Z

I am a descendent of John Greenhalgh (but DOB stated about 1796 in Elton Lancashire) who married Mary and was transported on 'Speke" to Australia. Mary with two young sons Thomas and george (I think) arrived 1823 and Jogn was released udner her custody.

My family comes from the son Thomas, who settled in Windsor area NSW and later with sons over the mountains at Rydal and later my Great Grand father at a small NSW Town of Eugowra.

We are having a family reunion at Eugowra 13th December and are interested in tracing the family tree stretching from the other sons and daughters of this John Greenhalgh, and the grandchildren (especially Thomas Greenhalgh)

If you are same Greenhalgh family and have a line of family stretching from Australia in the 1820s we would love to hear from you.

If your \John Greenhalgh appears to be of same original family in Lanchashire we would also like some news.

Thanks

Allen

Re: Greenhalgh descendants in Australia

allengreenhalgh — 2008-11-13 11:19:49Z

Re: Greenhalgh castle

jogreenhalgh — 2008-10-24 01:51:34Z

I have been to see Greenhalgh castle located outside of Garstang, Lancashire, England. It is a ruin set in what is now a sheep pasture! The farm house on the property is quite old and we were told by the farmer's wife that it contained the original stairway from the castle. The castle was ransacked by Cromwell - the Greenhalghs were Catholic. Some time ago, I bought a small book from a website about Greenhalgh castle. You might try that for a picture.
- J. Greenhalgh

Re: James Greenhalgh in London, England

RichardGreenough — 2008-09-15 19:23:21Z

Based on the FAQs at the GRO website I expect that James Greenhalgh's death registration will show his age and place of birth, but not parents' names. We must hope the informant really knew his place of birth.

Also, I would not rule out getting some useful info from the parish register for the 1817 marriage at St Pancras. I mentioned the FHL film number in an earlier email, but you can also send off to the FHL requesting a copy of the registration. See the form at:

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/Rg/images/FReqIGI.pdf

and use the section headed "Extracted Resources".

Also, finding James Greenhalgh in the National Burial Index (NBI) might show if others from an earlier Greenhalgh generation or his sons are buried near him.

http://www.ffhs.org.uk/projects/nbi/nbi-overview.php

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Text from GRO death reg FAQ at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/faqs-order-on...

QUOTE

The details contained on a death certificate include:

* Name, date and place of death.
* Date and place of birth (before 1969 a certificate only showed age of deceased).
* Occupation and usual address.
* Cause of death.
* The person who gave information for the death registration.

ENDQUOTE

Re: James Greenhalgh in London, England

NoraMcL — 2008-09-15 15:21:24Z

Richard, I did find the information about Mary Ann's second marriage to her sister's widower in another copy of the Gentleman's Magazine online, I did not record the volume number but will retrieve that again...it read:

"At Duisburg, Prussia, William Holsworth esq. of Marlborough Place, Brighton, to Mary Ann, relict of the late James Greenhalgh, esq. of Charlotte Street, Fitzroy Square."

If I rem. correctly, Mary Ann was living at Charlotte Street in 1841 with her daughter my 3X great grandmother Mary Sarah Greenhalgh, and at Upper Norton Street in 1851. When she married William Holsworth, she moved to Brighton, Sussex and died there.

This second marriage for both William Holsworth and Mary Ann Boyce (widow of James Greenhalgh of Fitzroy Square) was on my old parchment pages but no date or place given.

I have sent away for the death reg. for my ancestor James Greenhalgh, in the vague hope there may be some tidbit of information on it that will give me a clue as to his identity. I also sent for his daughter's death certificate and her marriage certificate, perhaps there will be something on one of them. I know in my heart and soul there must be old papers and publications in England that could help me- I have xeroxed copies of some old documents which were in newspapers about Dr. Robert Greenhalgh, my third great granduncle.

If I do find something that will help me and help others, I will certainly post that information.

Nora

Re: James Greenhalgh in London, England

RichardGreenough — 2008-09-15 05:04:09Z

Hi Nora, A very interesting puzzle you have indeed! Your demonstrated research skills and dedication make it even more compelling to me.

The record you received from your grandmother is a treasure. My grandfather was a main inspiration for me in taking up family history. He handed down about 20 pages of descendant charts and so many stories.

I hope you'll post what you find when you receive James Greenhalgh's death registration. I've only ever ordered one document from the UK GRO but had good luck. My memory is that it only took 2 weeks or so. Not sure if that is normal.

Working in old parish records takes some study and perseverance. I know where the index volumes are on the shelf at the Family History Library in Salt Lake but cannot remember what they are called. GENUKI is an invaluable online resource. If James' death cert gives a birth place and parents names, I can help in identifying resources.

The St Pancras Parish records for the 1817 marriage might have some details but I don't want to get hopes up too high.

Did you find German records Mary's second marriage in Duisburg? I don't question it, just curious. My only German work has been in the IGI batch records (ones that cite to original church records).

My understanding is that there are at least twenty known spelling variants of Greenhalgh, and my surname (Greenough) is one of the more common of them (I could dig up a citation to general English surname study done about 1900 if you are interested). I trace back to a Robert Greenough of Ipswich and Rowley, Massachusetts (lived about 1650 to 1718). Some of his descendant lines in the US and Canada shortened the name to Greeno.

The first record of Robert Greenough is a land grant in Maine in 1680 on which his last name was spelled Greenhaugh which is another spelling variant of Greenhalgh. It is not known where in England he came from, but the surname was and still is heavily concentrated in Lancashire. In the late 16th/early 17th century church and probate records from Lancashire it's easy to find records for the same "nuclear family" with the name spelled several different ways. I guess it is was just a matter of chance which one they settled on as "correct spelling" became a need in the more literate and legalistic society that developed in the next century or two.

Re: James Greenhalgh in London, England

NoraMcL — 2008-09-14 17:52:59Z

Richard, thank you for your reply, the links and your questions. I like to be challenged. I have worked on this family for eight years, via the internet, working backwards from my great grandmother who was born at Brighton, Sussex, and working straight off old parchment pages that were handed to me when I was in my 20's by my maternal grandmother who told me she wanted me to have them, if I would take care of them, work on genealogy one day and then pass them on to someone else in our family.

I had no idea the significance of what she handed me, carefully wrapped in plastic, until I did start working on family history in earnest.

I am positive of all the information I have posted because I have backed it (what is contained on the old parchment pages) up with information which corresponds to online records, although I have never sent away for anything to do with my elusive James Greenhalgh. Now that I have some idea where and what to send for, I will do that. I was just wondering yesterday if his marriage record to Mary Ann Boyce names his parents or father or even where he was born.

My old parchment pages state he was born 1785 but no exact date and his date of death was recorded as Oct. 12, 1850. The latter date corresponds with this item I found online, and which confirms for me that the Mary Greenhalgh living on her own in 1841 with daughter Mary (my 3 times great grandmother Mary Sarah) is same person as wife of same James because the address is the same (Upper Norton Street):

From my files....

Another item (found in the "Gentleman's Magazine" published in England): Deaths- London and Vicinity: Reported Oct. 13, 1850
In Upper Norton St. age 65, James Greenhalgh, esq. (His death was Oct. 12, 1850)

How bizarre this is however, I did not realize until yesterday that James was not recorded with Mary, and I started to wonder if they lived apart. Why otherwise would he not be listed as living with her? Was he away on a trip perhaps with his sons? Robert and James were born in 1819 and 1821 and well of an age to be living on their own but I cannot find them in 1841 in England. I do know this family travelled quite a bit, so it is hard to say where they were in 1841.

Mary re-married after James died....to William Holsworth or Holdsworth in 1852 in Dusiburg, Prussia (!) William's first wife was Mary Ann Boyce's sister: Sarah Frances Boyce born about 1791 and died in 1848. I cannot find them as a couple on the 1841 census either.

Because James was 32 years old when he married Mary Ann Boyce, perhaps he had been married previously. Again, I had not entertained this thought until yesterday.

I will do some more digging and see what I can find- it has always intrigued me that "my" James has never been linked to any of the more prominant Greenhalgh lines.

Thank you again for your help and if you ever find anything that might help me, please post here or write to me directly.

Was your family name always Greenough, or is there a link to some Greenhalgh lines?

Nora

Re: James Greenhalgh in London, England

RichardGreenough — 2008-09-14 16:41:58Z

Hi, I'm not related to this line but you have an interesting puzzle. Are you certain that the James Greenhalgh who died Oct 1850 is a match for Mary Ann (Boyce) Greenhalgh's husband? I find Mary Greenhalgh age 44 and daughter Mary Greenhalgh age 16 in the 1841 census at St. Pancras Registration District, without James or the two sons in the household.

Do have the 1850 death cert? If not, you may want to order from the GRO:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Is there a chance that the death cert is for the son James or a completely unrelated James Greenhalgh? It's a more commmon name than might expect.

Also, have you checked the parish register for the 1815 marriage to see if James Greenhalgh's parents are named (not sure if would expect them to be)? This is the Family History Library microfilm number I think the 1815 marriage record would be on:

FHL BRITISH Film [ 598180 ]
Marriages v. 57-58, 1811-1816 from Parish registers of St. Pancras Old Church, 1660-1916 (Microfilm of original records at the London Record Office and at the London Metropolitan Archives. London Metro. Archives call no.: P90/PAN2/001-005, 009-023).

James Greenhalgh in London, England

NoraMcL — 2008-09-13 02:15:20Z

Does anyone have info on a James Greenhalgh who was born 1785, died Oct. 12, 1850 at Upper Norton Street in Marylebone? I THINK he was a merchant of some type. He married Mary Ann Boyce on Aug. 3, 1817 at Old Church, Saint Pancras. She was a sister to George John Boyce, father of painters George Price Boyce and Joanna Mary Boyce/Mrs. Henry Tamworth Wells.

James Greenhalgh and Mary Ann Boyce had three children- Robert and James who became doctors, and Mary Sarah who was my 3X great grandmother. Mary Sarah married Edward Hawxby Walker in 1844 and had six children, three of whom lived to adulthood.

I have never found one shred of information that tells me who the parents were for James Greenhalgh senior and I would love to know his background and ancestry. After his death his widow married William Holsworth (1792-1876). Mary Ann died in July 1868.

Thanks from Nora

repost of Ola Greenhalgh..more info

MarcyMB — 2008-08-01 22:23:05Z

Ola is B. Olie Greenhalgh, b. 1885 in Penn., her father is James Greenhalgh born in 1863, in England. Her mother is listed as Malissa Toy, born 1863, in Pennsylvania. I cannot seem to find the right James Greenhalgh, as there seems to be many out of England. Anyone?!?!?