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Searching for info on Maternal GGGrandfather - Miguel Geronimo Gutierrez Quiroz

anabbbs — 2012-04-28 21:33:33Z

Started my family tree and looking for anyone who has info on the birth mother and father of Miquel Geronimo Gutierrez Quiroz from Santa Clara Cuba. Patroit of the 10 year War in Cuba - born 1822

Obituary: Joe Cruz Gutierrez

RichardGarcia84 — 2012-04-16 06:58:52Z

"Mr. FixIt"
Our loving husband, father, grandfather, and brother, Joe Cruz Gutierrez, passed away on April 11, 2012 surrounded by his family.
He was born May 3, 1929 in Los Martinitos, New Mexico to Francisco and Concepcion Beltran Gutierrez. He married Mary Salazar on October 15, 1948.
Joe retired from Kennecott Copper after 38 years as a welder. He always said that he was a jack of all trades and a master of none. He enjoyed camping fishing, hunting, riding horses and playing horseshoes. His greatest joy was spending time with his family.
He is survived by his wife, Mary, children, Chelise (Dan) Pannunzio, Sue De La Cruz, Jim (Gail) Gutierrez, Jenise (Ashwani) Oberoi, and Jason (Lori) Gutierrez; 11 grandchildren, 9 great grandchildren, and brother, Domingo Gutierrez. He was preceded in death by a grandson, Ray Trujillo, one brother and five sisters.
A special thanks to Dr. Ross Morgan and his staff.
A funeral mass will be celebrated Monday at 10:00 a.m. at Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church, 715 West 300 North. A vigil service will be held Sunday at 6:00 p.m. at Neil O'Donnell and Sons Mortuary, 372 East 100 South, where friends may call from 5:00 - 6:00 p.m. Committal - Mount Calvary Catholic Cemetery 4th Ave and T Street.
In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Our Lady of Guadalupe Church, 715 West 300 North, SLC, UT 84116.

Eugenio Gutierrez

hiramitoa1 — 2012-03-24 08:13:22Z

The original grantee of the Los Ojuelos was Eugenio Gutierrez and he later granted a portion of the land to his son, Isidro. Eugenio's daughter Maria Petra Gutierrez married Ignacio Guerra. Ignacio and Petra's sons were Dionicio, Juan, and Jose Maria. It is these Guerra brothers who are credited with founding Los Ojuelos. Eugenio had to leave the land due to the Indians who raided the farm and livestock. 25 years later, Isidro returned but he also was "ran off" by the Indians. 40 years after that, Eugenio's grandsons, the Guerra brothers (Jose Maria, et al.), returned to the land and constructed a wall and built a church on the peoperty, thus having "improved the peoperty". Hence, the credit of founding Los Ojuelos. You may find this information in the Handbook of Texas online. I am a descendant of Eugenio de Cuevas y Gutierrez, original grantee of the Los Ojuelos grant. My descendancy is through his son Isidro.

Re: Gutierrez - Bernalillo

chrisgutz13 — 2012-03-19 04:36:55Z

Do you have family from the Roswell/Dexter area??

GUTIERREZ Jose A - Vietnam Wall section 4E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-03-09 13:17:01Z

GUTIERREZ Jose A - Vietnam Wall section 4E

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Francisco Gutierrez

jlaityjr187 — 2012-03-05 17:41:58Z

Hello I am searching for my grandfathers family who may live in Zamora Mexico. I am the daughter of Ramon Adolph born in Pittsburgh , Pa. He has two sisters and a brother also, I have reunited them but still searching for the rest of our family and the location where Frank may be buried. According to two documents I have franks mother was Susan and his father was Ramon. Frank was baptized in Santa Maria, Samora, Mexico on Jan. 22, 1904.
Frank was living in Pittsburgh and working as a laborer
If anyone could please help me with my research please contact my email address, Jlaityjr@Verizon.net

Francisca Gutierrez

jdadwd3 — 2012-02-25 06:33:17Z

Looking for Francisca or Frances Gutierrez born in San Antonio, Texas, abt 1925 or 1926. Moved to Houston, lived on Scotland Street. At the age of 15, gave birth at St Joseph Hospital in 1941 to a baby girl, named Mary Rita Gutierrez. Believed Frances parents owned grocery store in Houston. In 1948 Frances lived in Los Angeles. Last name in 1948 was Quiroz. 1948 Frances gave up baby for adoption to Antonio and Aurora Villanueva of Houston. Research indicates Frances had two other children between 1942 and 1948. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Gutierrez/Mendoza/Robles/Jaques

FranDouglas29 — 2012-02-04 04:44:29Z

Searching for information on Benito 1890 and Eugenie 1900 Gutierrez/Gutierres both born in Mexico. Border Crossing abt. 1922. Lived in Oklahoma in the 1930's.
Children: Elaxandria 1922, Adolfo 1924, Louisa 1926,Frank 1928.

Thank you.

franlfrost@yahoo.com

Re: Looking for a long lost father

FranDouglas29 — 2012-01-10 06:08:55Z

Hi,

I would call the JAG Office at the nearest Army Post to where you live and ask where to go or call for information in locating your husband's father since you have all the information needed to search. They will tell you how to go about the search. You can call information at the Army Post and ask for the number for JAG. Let me know if you have a problem and I will help you get the telephone number.

Cesleedouglas@yahoo.com

Looking for a long lost father

suenos96 — 2011-12-26 21:19:59Z

I'm trying to find my husband's father and although I seem to have at least enough information to find SOMETHING, I haven't found anything! I don't know if I don't know how to do it or what. My mother-in-law gave me all of the information that she could remember about him.

His name is Ricardo Gutierrez born circa 1951. Birth place is unknown but he did live in Santa Ana, California in the 1970s. He was in the army and stationed in Panama City, Panama from approx 1971-1973. While he was stationed in Panama City, Panama, he lived in the Howard Kobe Engineering baracks. It is believed that he had already had one child before being stationed in Panama and may have been married.

How do I best search for this man? My husband really needs to meet him or find out if he has died.

GUTIERREZ Louis S - Vietnam Wall section 3E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-12-26 14:02:34Z

GUTIERREZ Louis S - Vietnam Wall section 3E

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Re: Gutierrez in Texas

Steve_Gutierrez1 — 2011-12-25 05:38:47Z

I was beginning my Family Tree and found that we have a few things in common. My father was John A. Gutierrez and was previously married to Carmen Salazar. I hope you will follow-up and contact me via my email: Steve.Gutierrez@State.ca.gov.

Re: Gutierrez in Texas

Steve_Gutierrez1 — 2011-12-10 06:30:23Z

I am searching for information on John A.Gutierrez and family Casius Gutierrez or Dora Andrade.

Obituary: Mabel E. Gutierrez

RichardGarcia84 — 2011-09-22 04:12:54Z

In loving memory of Mabel Maria Gutierrez, beloved wife, sister, mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, aunt and friend passed away Friday, September 09 2011. She is survived by her husband of 65 years, Clarence Gutierrez, sister Aurora Esquibel, children Kenneth, Gloria, Gerald, Beth, and Rochelle, 13 grandchildren and 9 great-grandchildren. Born in Wagon Mound, New Mexico to parents Rosendo and Annie Esquibel, she was blessed to have seven siblings. Her compassionate spirit and energy was felt by all who loved her. Mabel was the stronghold of her family and will be deeply missed. Arrangements under the direction of Moore Howard Chapel, Denver, CO.

GUTIERREZ George Jr - Vietnam Wall section 2E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-09-19 23:22:39Z

GUTIERREZ George Jr - Vietnam Wall section 2E

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Re: Gutierrez Show/Circus

1_jerigomez — 2011-07-26 22:14:55Z

Tony and Lupe (husband) retired in Arvin.

Re: Gutierrez Show/Circus

JLJJJ — 2011-07-26 17:22:34Z

thanks for the info. Are all your Gutierrez's aunts & uncles still alive? I know Toni is, i see her once in a great wile in Arvin, but have not had the time to ask family question with her yet. My wife in a Marmolejo, whose grandfather Mariano Marmolejo married Maria Gutierrez who is your grandfather Juan's sister. I am looking for photos from the circus.

Re: Gutierrez Show/Circus

1_jerigomez — 2011-07-25 22:09:38Z

My Grandfather was Juan Gutierrez. Born in Silao, Guanajuato. He is burried in Arvin , Ca. He was the originator and owner of the Gutierrez Show that traveled through-out the Southwest from between 1918 until 1950's.
My Mom Aurora, Uncle John, Uncle Arthur, aunt Molly were born and raised in the Circus.
Jerry

Re: Are there any Arizona Gutierrez's who were once GUTERAC?

garywgreen — 2011-07-05 05:56:43Z

My mother family all have the middle name Guterac and it was my grandmother Mary Guterac... My grandmother was married in Phoenix AZ and left her husband that I only know his last name Mendibles

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Juanita Gutierrez

oj525 — 2011-06-13 16:52:12Z

looking for info on her she lived all her life in Pecos Texas from what i have gathered..want to go back alitle further on her...like who her parents were and grandparents..she died in 2002..hope to hear from you..God Bless..Have a Nice Day..

Roco Family in the Philippines

fsroco1 — 2011-06-02 09:41:34Z

Dear Pablo,

After almost 25 years of research, I finally found someone who has the Rocos of Alcantara in Spain in their family tree.

Allow me to introduce myself. I am Facundo Roco y Sagarbarria. I come from the Philippines where the Roco Family started in 1791. Over time, our family has grown and my own tree which you can view at http://rocofamily.info/ contains over 2000 names, including in laws of course.

My haplogroup is R1a1a. If you are descended from Bernal Roco, then we must be related.

I hope we can meet someday. Do email me at fsroco@yahoo.com. Or through this thread.

A little about myself, I turn 61 next week. I am the sixth of a family of 10, the youngest of the boys. My mother who is still around at 95 is third generation Basque but we never learned the language. We are Filipinos.

Do tell me about your family. I am so excited.

Best regards.

Facundo

GUTIERREZ Christopher - Vietnam Wall section 8W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-05-03 16:04:38Z

GUTIERREZ Christopher - Vietnam Wall section 8W

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Jose Gutierrez and Andrella Gutierrez, Manuel Gutierrez - Colorado/New Mexico

rgutierrez1982 — 2011-04-15 02:32:24Z

Looking for some clues here.

Manuel Gutierrez according to census records was born around 1852 in New Mexico. Jose Gutierrez, his son, was born around 1878 in New Mexico but sometime after moved to Colorado. I have them in Colorado as early as the 1910s census. In the 1920s census, Manuel was living with Jose so I am able to without a doubt verify the fathers name.

In the 1910's census, Andrella is listed as Andrellita. In the 1920's census as Andrella. She was born about 1886.

Manuel is listed as a widow living on his own in the 1910s census... No record of a wife's name.

What I'm looking for here is if anyone has any assistant that they can provide on either Andrella's maiden name (or parents would be even better) or Manuel Gutierrez's wife/mother of Jose Gutierrez.

The origins of these should be New Mexico, but in the later census's they were living in Fremont County, Colorado.

Thanks if anyone has any assistance that they can provide here.

Re: Puerto Rico-Hawaii

etorres59 — 2011-04-13 01:58:08Z

My grandmother left Puerto Rico around the same time. Her name is Jacinta Gutierrez.

Gutierrez from Puerto Rico

etorres59 — 2011-04-13 01:37:23Z

My Grandmother came here to the states probably late 1800's or early 1900's from Puerto Rico. She was brought here by a rich family to be a nanny. She met my grandfather, Francisco Torres and married him. My Aunts no nothing about where their mother came from. They said she had sisters and brothers but never met them. Her name is Jacinta Gutierrez. We called her Tita. Any info would help. Thanks

GUTIERREZ from Camargo

hiramitoa1 — 2011-03-16 05:10:03Z

Looking for information on Tomas Gutierrez and his wife Juana Francisca De La Garza from Camargo ca 1800.

They were the parents of Jacinto Gutierrez who married Maria Silbestra Canales, daughter of Antonio Canales De La Garza and Cayetana Salinas De La Pena, 26 Oct 1827 at San Agustin Parish, Laredo, Texas.

This is the marriage record:

Church Register Page 134, Entry Number 465:

Jacinto Gutierrez
Doña Silvestra Canales
October 26, 1827
Groom: A soldier of the 1st Permanent Company of Tamaulipas, stationed in this garrison four years, native of Camargo, son of Don Tomas Gutierrez and Doña Juana Francisca De La Garza, both deceased.
Bride: Native of Revilla and resident of Laredo since childhood, daughter of the late Don Antonio Canales and Doña Cayetana Salinas.
Witnesses: Felipe Camacho and Jose De Loreto Pardo
Priest: Jose Maria Garcia

I am trying to find any information on Tomas Gutierrez and Juana Francisca De La Garza (parents, date/place of birth/marriage/death, other children, etc). Any information or leads is greatly appreciated.

Re: Gutiérrez de Lares, Puerto Rico

elpochote — 2011-01-30 16:17:39Z

Ver escudo

Re: Gutiérrez de Lares, Puerto Rico

elpochote — 2011-01-30 16:14:18Z

Hola:
Por si te ayuda...

Mi abuelo fue Gregorio Gutierrez Ortiz (1887 - 1980)de Yauco sur.
Su hermana Justina Gutierrez Ortiz (1883 - )de yauco sur.
MI padre Siro Gutierrez Benliza ( 1915 - Aun vive) Nacio en Santurce, San Juan.

La madre de mi esposa es de apellido Negron del Bo. Collores de Juana Dias.

Saludos...

GUTIERREZ Raymond R - Vietnam Wall section 24W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-01-13 23:56:55Z

GUTIERREZ Raymond R - Vietnam Wall section 24W

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GUTIERREZ Arturo B - Vietnam Wall section 25W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-01-09 22:29:30Z

GUTIERREZ Arturo B - Vietnam Wall section 25W

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GUTIERREZ Henry L Jr - Vietnam Wall section 33W - our honor and thanks to those who put their lives on the line for us

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2010-12-13 18:29:52Z

GUTIERREZ Henry L Jr - Vietnam Wall section 33W - our honor and thanks to those who put their lives on the line for us

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Re: Any Gutierrez from Michoacan, Mexico

patriciagutierrez13 — 2010-12-07 01:01:55Z

name Apolonia caught my eye. My grandfather's name was
Apolonio Gutierrez from tt area.He was a cobbler and owned a busline.email me @ patsyluitjen@att.net. I will forward info I got at last fam reunion in July'10.He was from Zamora. Mich.14 DE GUERRERO was address in Michoacan.He was born in Ocotlan, Jalisco.

Re: To all the filipino/non-filipino Gutierrez

Tiggrj86 — 2010-11-20 05:22:57Z

Hello.. I'm a GUTIERREZ! I hav answers n questions

Obituary: George Soto Gutierrez

RichardGarcia84 — 2010-10-27 06:37:14Z

George Soto Gutierrez, 87, a Deming resident, passed away Friday, October 8, 2010 at Deming Mimbres Hospital. As per his wishes, cremation has been entrusted to Baca's Mimbres Crematory and no services are planned.
George was born February 16, 1923 in Hurley, New Mexico to Jorge and Guadalupe Gutierrez. He joined the United States Army in August of 1942. He served his country proudly in World War II. He received the Asian Pacific Medal, Philippine Liberation Ribbon with a Bronze Star, World War II Victory Medal, and an American Campaign Medal.
He worked and retired from the City of Deming as a Sanitation Engineer; he was one of the guys that hung on to the back of the garbage truck and woke you up by clanking trash cans at 6 in the morning.
He is survived by his wife of 51 years, Consuelo Chavez Gutierrez; 3 sons, Fernando, Richard and Carlos; daughter-in-law, Lori Gutierrez; 7 grandchildren and numerous nieces and nephews; and his sister Lupe Marino of Los Angeles, California.
A lifelong musician, George loved to play the guitar, bass, drums, piano with various musical groups as well as just sitting at home and recording his music. George also loved a variety of television programs, movies and comedians. He also had the wonderful ability to tell a joke and was able to sneeze at an incredibly high volume.
He is preceded in death by his parents, brothers and grandson, Carlos (Chuck) Gutierrez/Licon.
You check out Guitar George, he knows all the chords,
But it's strictly rhythm, he doesn't want to make it cry or sing
Yes then an old guitar is all he can afford
When he gets up under the lights to play his thing.
We love you "Pop"!
Entrusted to the care of Baca's Funeral Chapels. Exclusive provider for "Veterans & Family Memorial Care". To sign the online guest book or to send a card, please visit our website at www.bacasfuneralchapels.com.
811 S. Gold Ave., Deming, NM 88030. Phone: (575) 546-9671

GUTIERREZ Albert R Jr our thanks to those who put their lives on the line - and honor to this hero who died in Vietnam - Wall se

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2010-09-27 01:11:17Z

GUTIERREZ Albert R Jr our thanks to those who put their lives on the line - and honor to this hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 46W

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Gabino Gutierrez

west1868 — 2010-09-17 21:20:44Z

Hola,

Me llamo Norma West. Busco a los descendientes de mi abuelo Gabino Alvarez Gutierrez nacido en 1889, mas o menos. Era procedente de Villa de Guadalupe, Jalisco, Mexico. Viajo a Ohio, se caso, y tuvo tres hijos. Uno de los hijos era mi madre. El nombre norteamericano de Gabino era George Martin. Mis abuelos se divorciaron en 1924, mas o menos, y el volvio a Mexico. Despues de volver a Mexico, mi abuelo se caso de nuevo y tuvo dos hijos, Juan y Alejandro. La madre de ellos murio y Gabino se caso con su hermana Cecilia Casillas y tuvieron un hijo Manuel en 1946, mas o menos. Mi madre viajo a Mexico en 1962 para ver a su padre y a su familia, y volvio alli otra vez en 1964 cuando yo fui con ella. Conoci a mi abuelo y a su esposa Cecilia durante ese viaje. Tengo una foto de 1962 del hijo de mi abuelo y su familia. Los nombres al dorso de la foto son Juan, Marina, Esther, Marina, Roberto y Victor Manuel.

Si estos son su familia, me daria mucho placer saber mas de ellos. Yo compartire lo que he aprendido de mi familia y de la familia de Gabino. Hice investigaciones de genelogia y no pude encontrar nada de mi abuelo. Se unos datos que mi madre me dijo. Mi madre murio hace unos 24 anos.

Muchas gracias

Norma West

Gutierrez from Mexico to California

memreezinaflash — 2010-08-28 18:09:29Z

I have recently gotten some military records for Raphiel Gutierrez. His father was Ezequiel Gutierrez born Aug. 10 1888. Ezequiel married Maria Magana born Nov. 29, 1892. They settled in Madera California. On some of the military records they list names such as Aristea Gutierrez Ramierez, listed as aunt. ( I am not sure if this is Ezequils sister or Marias sister),
Sara Magana Parez( I think this is Marias sister),Angeline Magana Aldamr,Pascuala Magana Munez. They are listed as being residents of Churintzio Michoacan Mexico and non us citizens. I have registration numbers for Ezequile and Maria.They entered the Us threw El Paso Tx. I am stuck at this point. I do not have much information on Apolonial Gutierrez or Mr. Ramirez. Does any of this sound familiar to you? Thank you for your time and I look forward to visiting with you.
have a great day.
Charlie

Re: Any Gutierrez from Michoacan, Mexico

memreezinaflash — 2010-08-28 18:00:44Z

Hi Patricia,
I have recently gotten some military records for Raphiel gutierrez. His father was Ezequiel Gutierrez born Aug. 10 1888. Ezequiel married Maria Magana. They settled in Madera California. On some of the military records they list names such as Aristea Gutierrez Ramierez, listed as aunt. ( I am not sure if this is Ezequils sister or Marias sister),
Sara Magana Parez( I think this is Marias sister),Angeline Magana Aldamr,Pascuala Magana Munez. They are listed as being residents of Churintzio Michoacan Mexico and non us citizens. I have registration numbers for Ezequile and Maria. I am stuck at this point. I do not have much information on Apolonial or Mr. Ramirez. Does any of this sound familiar to you? Thank you for your time and I look forward to visiting with you.
have a great day.
Charlie

GUTIERREZ Amador F and Paula G

t42MountOlivet — 2010-08-16 21:09:10Z

GUTIERREZ Amador F and Paula G

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GUTIERREZ Celia 1916-1938

t42MountOlivet — 2010-08-16 21:08:58Z

GUTIERREZ Celia 1916-1938

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GUTIERREZ Manuel F 1902-1942

t42MountOlivet — 2010-08-16 21:08:47Z

GUTIERREZ Manuel F 1902-1942

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Re: Gutierrez & haplogroups

InesPerez008 — 2010-07-15 15:37:47Z

Buenos dias Pablo, aqui es dos horas mas temprano que en Chile, en verano, en invierno son cuatro horas de diferencia.Con gusto te dare la informacion que me pides. Los mormones tienen una extensa biblioteca en genealogia, me parece que es la mas completa del mundo. Tienen en microfilms todos los libros de la iglesia catolica de todos los paises, hasta de los pueblos mas pequeños. El uso del material es gratuito, solo tienes que pagar por el courier que trae los microfilms desde Salt Lake City, que es donde esta la sede principal y todo el material. Tienes que leerlos en su local, ellos te facilitan los microfilm readers, tienes que localizar la sede mas cercana de donde residas, generalmente en la iglesia mormona local, algunos tienen la seccion"Family History Center" y ahi vas, ves los indices, localizas el numero de microfilm que necesitas y lo pides, se demora dos a tres semanas en llegar, segun la demanda que tenga y te dan un mes para revisarlo. Pero, no lo puedes sacar del local. Generalmente a mi me toma dos horas en revisar uno completo, primero tienes que saber cual es el lugar geografico que quieres revisar y el año. Por las leyes internacionales de privacidad, la informacion es a partir de 1903 hacia a tras. Los microfilms son fotografias de los libros originales. Te cuento que buscando a Narciso encontre la inscripcion de bautismo de Bernardo O"Higgins, nuestro Padre de la Patria, emocionante.
Ahi he visto las firmas de mis antepasados . Puedes hacer una fotocopia del documento y pagas un quarter o algo asi por el papel. Los mormones estan trabajando en poner todos esos microfilms on-line, pero, les tomara algunos años mas. Cualquier duda te la respondere con gusto, pues esta materia me apasiona, yo en Chile fui profesora de Ciencias Sociales, me gusta mucho la investigacion..Saludos

Re: Gutierrez & haplogroups

Gutier71 — 2010-07-15 14:12:49Z

Estimada Ines,
Yo estoy topando en algunas ramas de mi familia por parte materno. Si no es mucha la molestia, me podrias dar el dato de los mormones? Yo he buscado en el sitio web de los Mormones pero no son muy rigurosos y falta mucha informacion todavia. Pero si hay microfilm de los documentos originales, eso seria muy util. Hay que pagar para eso? Como se obtiene?

De antemano, muchas gracias...

Re: Gutierrez & haplogroups

InesPerez008 — 2010-07-15 04:03:04Z

Saludos Pablo, muy interesante conversar contigo. Como ya te mencione, las primeras generaciones de mi familia que he localizado se concentran en la zona centro sur de Chile, en los pueblos que mencione, ya de 1900 adelante hubo migracion a Santiago.
De Narciso Gutierrez, el pariente mas antiguo que he logrado encontrar en los microfilms de los mormones encontre la lista de sus hijos y de ahi hacia adelante tengo la hebra hasta hoy. Continuamente estoy encontrando nuevos primos lejanos a lo largo del pais y tambien fuera de Chile. Hay parientes en Canada, Mexico, Francia, Brasil, Venezuela. Pero de Narciso y Francisca, su esposa solo encontre sus nombres en los certificados de bautismo y defuncion de sus hijos, pero de ellos nada, por eso creo que llegaron desde afuera, ya casados. Tenia la esperanza que con tu informacion pudiera establecer un link desde Argentina, pero, despues de leer tu informacion creo que somos dos lineas distintas. El Señor Tomas Pino me ofrecio sus servicios profesionales para investigar la genealogia del apellido Gutierrez, a partir del primer español que llego a Chile, que segun el seria tu antepasado que vino de Buenos Aires. El insiste que no hay garantia que esa sea la linea que uno busca, pero es decision personal hacerlo.
Hace ya varios años que investigo, pues quiero llegar al primer Gutierrez de mi linea en Chile y saber de donde venia. Por lo que he investigado, muchas familias emigraron desde la islas Canarias hacia sudamerica, entre ellos Gutierrez, eran campesinos que cultivaban la tierra en Tenerife y cuando llegaron a america trabajaron en lo mismo.
Desgraciadamnete en Chile la informacion genealogica es muy limitada y se concentra mas que nada en los libros de la iglesia catolica. A lo mejor tu con tu experiencia me puedes sugerir otro metodo, gracias y saludos....

Re: Gutierrez & haplogroups

Gutier71 — 2010-07-15 03:41:11Z

Estimada Inés,
Muy interesante, gracias. La verdad es que nací en los Estados Unidos y mis padres nos mudaron a Chile a los 12 años. Voy a ver qué consigo averiguar de don Narciso, pero no porque tengan cierta situación económica significa que no son descendientes. En lo que llevo estudiando la historia de familias chilenas, hay mucho cambio social. Algunos empobrecen en un par de generaciones mientras que otros se enriquecen rápido.

Un abrazo,
Pablo

Re: Gutierrez & haplogroups

InesPerez008 — 2010-07-14 22:26:02Z

Hola Pablo, que sorpresa saber que naciste en Chile. Yo vivo en Canada, pero naci en Santiago de Chile.
Debes saber que en Chile hay una persona que se dedica en forma profesional a investigar la genealogia de las personas, se llama Tomas Pino Aldunate. El tiene su pagina web con la historia de algunos apellidos y lo que me cuentas es casi exacto lo que el tiene escrito en su pagina.
Ahora entiendo lo del haologroups, gracias al examen de ADN, gracias por la explicacion. No creo que seamos parientes, porque en Chile hay muchos Gutierrez, mis parientes logre localizarlos a fines de 1770, y el primero que tengo en mi lista es Narciso Gutierrez,que calculo nacio por ahi por 1778, casado con Francisca Villagra, pienso que ellos llegaron desde Agentina, y se instalaron en el centro sur, en el area de Lontue, Molina, Pelarco, es ahi que he encontrado familiares, pero, ellos eran campesinos, no tenian bienes materiales. De ahi para adelante he logrado conectar las generaciones descendientes hasta hoy. Saludos.....

Re: Query

starcats24 — 2010-07-14 19:50:31Z

Florention,Eugenia, Florentino and Concepcion were born in mexico.
Petrolina and Francisca were born in Los Ebanos
They worked in Robstown and then they came to live in Mission, Texas.

Re: Gutierrez & haplogroups

Gutier71 — 2010-07-14 15:21:58Z

Estimada Inés,
Gracias por escribirme. Es muy probable que seamos parientes ya que hay varias ramas que se nos han perdido con el correr de las generaciones. Sería un gusto ayudarte a entroncar tu (o nuestras) familia(s). Mis padres son chilenos, pero yo nací en los Estados Unidos. Viví en Santiago por un buen tiempo, pero ahora mi mujer y yo vivimos muy cerca de donde crecí en Virginia.

Manos a la obra entonces.

Pedro Gutiérrez nació en San Esteban de Gormaz, España y partió a Buenos Aires, Argentina donde ayudó a reconstruir la ciudad. Ocupó cargos de importancia, adquirió tierras, y se casó con hija de conquistadores. Más adelante te daré un vínculo que describe en detalle su vida escrito por un genealogista argentino que también desciende de don Pedro. Nuestra familia estuvo en Argentina por casi 2 siglos cuando uno de los hermanos menores del matrimonio Gutiérrez Aberásturi (o Aberástury) partió a Chile.

José Gutiérrez Aberásturi nació en Buenos Aires en 1724 y falleció en Santiago de Chile. Se casó con María Marta de las Cuevas y Oyarzún, de una familia terrateniente. Voy a adjuntar el arbol genealogico de ambos en este mensaje.

De este matrimonio hay varias ramas que desconozco, pero sé que mi abuelo era primo del conocido historiador chileno Jaime Eyzaguirre G. El padre de mi abuelo se llamaba Santiago Gutiérrez Tagle y tenían 3 fundos en el sur, cerca de Los Angeles. Me pareció haberle oído decir a mis abuelos que aún quedaban parientes en Los Angeles. Se llamarían Lainge Gutiérrez si no me equivoco.

Ahora viene lo interesante. José Gutiérrez Aberásturi y María Marta de las Cuevas tuvieron 2 hijos. Uno se llamaba Pablo, el otro Antonio. Nosotros descendemos de Antonio, pero es muy posible que ustedes desciendan de don Pablo. Nosotros no sabemos con quién se casó ni cuándo falleció. Como es costumbre, los padres le ponen el mismo nombre a su hijo (o en honor de un antepasado). Seremos primos?

Yo me hice el examen de ADN cromosoma Y para rastrear el origen paterno. Si tienes un hermano o primo que se quiera probar, podemos ver si existe parentezco. Nosotros somos R1b, el haplogrupo más común en europa occidental. Se da con más frecuencia en Inglaterra, Escocia, Gales, Irlanda, País Vasco, Francia occidental y norte de España.

Como don Pedro Gutiérrez era un militar muy devoto a la fe cristiana (Católica), es posible que provenga de una familia celta. Hay rastros de la cultura celta en San Esteban de Gormaz, Castilla.

El link a Pedro Gutiérrez:

http://www.genealogiafamiliar.net/getperson.php?personID=I44...

Re: Gutierrez & haplogroups

MarjaFin — 2010-07-14 10:38:34Z

I wrote my question when my husband had just 12 markers analyzed. The question was based on comparison with one Gutierrez, Ysearch ID "74XHE", Christobal Gutierrez. He has just 9 markers, 8 were compared, distance of 0. His haplogrouop is N*. Now my husband has got the full 67. And he seems to belong to the Rurikid group. - Who knows, Gutierrez "74XHE" might have something to do with Vikings/Varjagians going to Iberia, long ago. But as long as "74XHE" has just 9 markers, quite impossible to know.

Re: Query

InesPerez008 — 2010-07-14 02:42:29Z

What country or city, and years are you looking for? you have to be more specific..