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In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in World War I

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 21:18:15Z

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in World War I

These are posted in connection with the upcoming Memorial Day. Feel welcome to post additions and corrections as a reply to this message.

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George W Bryant (1872-191?)
Husband of Susan B Conklin-11, Arminda Aldrich-10, Hannah Hallock-9, Zachariah-8,7,6, Zerubabel-5,4, Thomas-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock, p 334 of the 1928 Hallock Genealogy.
"George W Bryant was an officer in the World War, and was killed in France."

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Charles Ray Hallock (10/07/1890-12/14/1918)
Charles Ray-10, Asa-9, Ephribon-8, Asa-7, Caleb-6, Joshua-5,4, --o---3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock
Born: Bitely, Newaygo, Michigan, USA
Died Fort Bliss, Texas, cause unknown
1st Lt, 19th US Infantry
Above from p 181 of 1928 Hallock Genealogy.

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Francis A Hallock
Private, 26th Infantry Regiment, 1st Infantry Division
Lineage: Unknown
Died 01/05/1919
Burial or Memorial: Suresnes American Cemetery and Memorial
Suresnes, Ile-de-France Region, France

Memorial on Find-A-Grave:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

Army Death Record
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...

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Frank Thomas Hallack (1890 or 1 - 09/21/1918)
Lineage unknown
Died from sickness at Great Lakes Training School, Chicago, Illinois
Movie actor, from Los Angeles, California
Buried Hollywood Forever Cemetery, Hollywood, Los Angeles, USA
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;
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Pvt Ray C Hallock
Lineage Unknown
Died 30 Sep 1918
Burial or memorial: Brookwood American Cemetery and Memorial, Brookwood, Surrey, England
Find-A-Grave Memorial "Entered Service from New York"
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;
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William Merritt Hallock (08/02/1893-10/14/1918)
Lineage: William Merritt-9, Fitz-Greene-8, Samuel-7, Zophar-6, Daniel-5, Jonathan-4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock
From: Brookhaven, New York
Burial or Memorial: Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery and Memorial, Romagne, France

Did William S-9, Son of John Clark-8 Hallock of IA, Die in the Civil War?

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 15:25:57Z

Did William S-9, Son of John Clark-8 Hallock of IA, Die in the Civil War?

William S-9, John Clark-8, James Cooley-7, Amos-6, Thomas-5, Peter-4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

P 416 of the Hallock Genealogy shows a sketch for John Clark-9 Hallock, of Iowa, where it is stated that John Clark lost 3 sons in the Civil War: William S, Samuel & Henry.

Information has come to light that suggests that a William S Hallock, who is found in a Missouri unit in the Civil War, the 1880 Missouri census with a family, and who applied for a pension in 1887 from Indiana in respect to service with that Missouri unit - might be the William mentioned as a son of John Clark Hallock - and he therefore survived the war.

I have posted an earlier post that questions whether Henry, son of John Clark Hallock, survived the Civil War and is found in later censuses in Guthrie County, Iowa, here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hallock/648/mb.ashx

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This suggestion is supported by the following:

1) The William S Hallock, son of John Clark of Iowa, was a newspaper editor in Iowa (see excerpt from History of Linn Co, Iowa below). The William S Hallock in the 1880 Missouri census shows occupation as: "Editor".

2) The William S Hallock appearing in 1850 and 1856 censuses with John Clark shows born 1834 in Canada. The William S Hallock in the 1880 Marion Co, MO census was shown as born 1836, Canada.

3) A William S Hallock is found that appears to be a match for the son of John Clark shows he served in Co D, 1st Mo Cav. Although William is a common name, I have not found another William who is a better match. No record I have found shows explicitly whether this William survived the war or not, although one record shows his "rank-out" as 2nd LT, suggesting he survived the war. A pension application is found in 1887 from a William S Hallock residing in Indiana, in respect to service in C E, 13th MO Cav and Co D, 1st MO Cav. The latter unit is shown in the Civil War records I have found.

4) The 1928 Hallock Genealogy shows William as "Esq" and "of St Louis". Esquire is a term that might be used for a newspaper editor, and Hannibal is about 120 miles northwest of St Louis.
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An article is found in:

History of Linn County, Iowa
on Google Books

THE PRESS.

"The life of the press of Mount Vernon has been a checkered one. Enterprising young journalists sought this point, in view of the college location, long before the population was sufficient to support a newspaper, and after a few issues would be compelled to discontinue.

The Mt. Vernon Index first appeared, by Will S. Hallock, editor and publisher, in 1856. He was a student of the college at the time, and the office ?was furnished by the citizens. He was a young man of ability, a ready writer and pleasant speaker, but the paper proved unsuccessful, and was discontinued after the Fall election."

We then find a William S Hallock in 1880, Marion Co, Missouri, with occupation as: Editor.

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References to ancestry.com

1850 Census
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenan...

1856 Iowa Census
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=iastatecen&...

1880 Census
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&a...

Army Record showing 1st Cav and born 1834
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=unionsoldiersc...

Army Record showing rank-in of Sgt and rank-out of 2nd LT and Unit Co D 1st Mo Cav:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=nps_civilwarso...

Pension Application - 03/21/1887
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=civilwarpensio...
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Additional information is welcome to confirm or deny whether the post Civil War William C Hallock is the son of John Clark Hallock - as this link is part of the ancestry of the descendants of this William S Hallock.

OBITUARY - Rex E Hallock, (1918-2011), of Salina, KS

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 08:19:04Z

OBITUARY - Rex E Hallock, (1918-2011), of Salina, KS

He was a grandson of Kansas Pioneer Morris Wells Hallock. My mother and Rex were "double" first cousins. Rex reprinted the 1928 Hallock Genealogy book for our branch many years ago.

http://www.ryanmortuary.com/obits/2011/hal11015.html

His lineage is:

Rex-11, Ellis Martin-10, Morris Wells-9, John Kasar-8, Bethuel-7, Zachariah-6, Zerubabel-5,4, Thomas-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

OBITUARY - Oregon State Senator Ted Hallock (1921-2006)

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 08:08:27Z

Obituary - Oregon State Senator Ted Hallock (1921-2006)

The Portland Tribune, Dec 17, 2006, Updated Oct 30, 2009

"Former state Sen. Ted Hallock, a committed environmentalist and key player in the political movement that gave Oregon a unique progressive profile in the ‘60s and ‘70s, died at Good Samaritan Hospital Saturday night following a heart attack. He was 85..... more here:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=11664...

Can anyone place him in the Hallock tree??

Thanks

OBITUARY - Clair Pete Leroy Hallock (1912-2008) - of Clearfield, PA

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 08:06:04Z

OBITUARY - Clair Pete Leroy Hallock (1912-2008) - of Clearfield, PA

http://www.obitsforlife.com/obituary/171152/Hallock-Clair.ph...

UNPLACED - Richard R Hallock, (1919-1999) WWII Veteran-Career Army

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 07:52:50Z

UNPLACED - Richard R Hallock, (1919-1999) WWII Veteran-Career Army

Can anyone place this Richard R Hallock? Thanks

See short bio sketch

http://www.wna.org/page.cfm?p=258

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in World War II

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 07:41:25Z

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in World War II

This is posted in connection with the upcoming Memorial Day.
Feel free to post additional data in reply to this message.

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Roscius Irving Downs Jr (1918-1944)
Seven lines of Hallock descent
Recipient of the Purple Heart, he was reported missing at sea on August 30, 1944 (two months after D-Day).

Buried (or memorial?): Cambridge American Cemetery and Memorial Coton
Cambridgeshire, England
Find-A-Grave Memorial
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Do...;

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Charles H Hallock, Jr, Corporal, Army, buried Michigan
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

Don't find an entry in FAG (today 05/24/2012). Could this be a second gravesite for the Charles H Hallock memorialized/buried in Honolulu? - See below
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Corporal Charles H Hallock
Hallock lineage: Unknown
Inducted From: Connecticut
Combat Organization: 33rd Quartermaster Truck Regiment
Death Date: 24 Sep 1942
Monument: Honolulu, Hawaii, United States
Source:
World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=ww...

Name of Cemetery/Memorial: National Memorial Cemetery of Pacific, Territory of Hawaii (Honolulu)
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

Find-A-Grave Memorial
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

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Charles J Hallack, Private, Army, Buried Ohio
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

Find-A-Grave Memorial (with photo)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

Died 22 Mar 1945
Inscription: PVT, 2 Div 38 Inf Co A U.S. Army
Note: Killed in action in Wierhoe, Germany
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ACOM Duncan F Hallock
Lineage Unknown
Died: 12 Jun 1944
Note on Find-A-Grave: "Entered the service from New York"
Burial or memorial: Manila American Cemetery and Memorial, Manila, Manila City, Philippines
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

From:
World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=ww...

Duncan F Hallock
Inducted From: New York
Rank: Aviation Chief Ordnanceman
Combat Organization: United States Navy
Death Date: 12 Jun 1944
Monument: Fort William Mckinley, Manila, the Philippines

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Edward A Hallick, Seaman 2nd Class, Navy
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

Find-A-Grave Memorial:
Manila American Cemetery and Memorial, Manila, Manila City, Philippines
Died: 10 Nov 1944
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

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SSgt Edward R Hallock
Lineage Unknown
Died 3 Mar 1944
Burial or Memorial: Netherlands American Cemetery and Memorial, Margraten, Eijsden-Margraten Municipality, Limburg, Netherlands
Find-A-Grave Memorial:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=ww...

Name: Edward R Hallock
Inducted From: Vermont
Rank: Staff Sergeant
Combat Organization: 710th Bomber Squadron 447th Bomber
Death Date: 3 Mar 1944
Monument: the Netherlands
Last Known Status: Missing
U.S. Awards: Purple Heart Medal
Air Medal
Additional Army Awards

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Eugene F Hallock, Seaman 1st Class, Navy, buried New York
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

Find-A-Grave Memorial
Died 29 May 1945, Okinawa (Pacific)
Jamesport Cemetery, Jamesport, Suffolk, New York
USS Shubrick
S1c, United Staes Navy Reserves
Son of Mr. and Mrs. Caryl Hallock of New York. He was a gunner aboard the Shubrick when it came under attack by kamakazi pilots near Okinawa Japan.
His lineage is:
Eugene-12, Caryl-11, Frederick-10, Henry-9, Jared-8, Benjamin-7, Richard-6, Zerubabel-5,4, Thomas-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=20...
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Jack G Hallack, Corporal, Army
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

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John C Hallock, Major, Army, buried New York
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

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SSgt John L Hallock
Lineage unknown
Died: 19 Dec 1943
See the Note left by a descendant on Find-A-Grave of a fellow soldier on that plane (bombing mission), who survived the crash.
Burial or memorial: Lorraine American Cemetery and Memorial, Saint-Avold, Lorraine Region, France
Find-A-Grave Memorial, with note "entered service from New York"
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

See a photo of John Hallock and his fellow crew members:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/billjeffries10/3358282430/

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Marvin R Hallock Jr, Private, Army, buried Florida

Private Marvin R. Hallock Jr., Company B of the 307th Airborne Engineer Battalion was killed in action July 11, 1943 in Sicily, Italy. He is buried in Florida.

http://www.307th.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=c...

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PFC Richard H Hallock
Lineage Unknown
Died: 10 April 1945
Burial or memorial: Lorraine American Cemetery and Memorial, Saint-Avold, Lorraine Region, France
Find-A-Grave - with notation "entered the service from New Jersey"
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=ww...

Name: Richard H Hallock
Inducted From: New Jersey
Rank: Private First Class
Combat Organization: 609th Tank Battalion
Death Date: 10 Apr 1945
Monument: Lorraine, France

U.S. Awards: Purple Heart Medal
Bronze Star Medal
Additional Army Awards

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=rosterswwiidea...

Have Added a Few More....

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 07:33:34Z

I have just added a few more Hallocks who died during WWII to the first post on the WWII Memorial Post above. Some have links to Find-A-Grave with some photos and other bio materials.

SSgt John Hallock, Engineer on B-24 Bomber Shot Down over Austria

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 07:30:27Z

SSgt John Hallock, Engineer on B-24 Bomber Shot Down over Austria

I have received communication from a relative of another crew member of John's plane:
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"My brother and I became interested in the events of December 19, 1943, specifically the crash of the plane the Powder Ann that was shot down over the town of Volders, Austria. Everyone on the plane perished except for my father and one other person. John Hallock was one of the ones killed. An Italian historian was writing a book and had reached out to my brother with a lot of information that we never knew, which launched our interest. My Dad died in 1988. I had been trying to figure out where the crew members were buried and came across the Find-A-Grave site which helped me to realize that Mr. Hallock and others from the plane were buried in France. (The others are in Missouri.)

I don’t know very much about the crew members themselves. Most of what I know is about the events of that day in 1943. I wish I knew more about the people.

My brother compiled a lot of information that can be seen via this link. He actually went over to view the crash site and a lot of the pictures are from his trip.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/billjeffries10/3358282430/

Its fine for you to post my comments and contact info. I would love to hear from others…"

Justine Staub
Justine.Staub@amerigas.com

Interview with Joseph Hallock re WWII Bombing Flights Over Germany

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-24 07:29:18Z

If anyone can identify who this Joseph Hallock is: parents, hometown, lineage, bio, etc, please reply to this message. Thanks

"This interview with Joseph Hallock was originally published in the New Yorker Magazine on August 12, 1944, republished in The New Yorker Book of War Pieces (1947);Pitt, Barrie (ed.), The Military History of World War II (1986); Stokesbury, James L., A Short History of World War II (1980)."

How To Cite This Article:
"Life and Death Aboard a B-17, 1944," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (2005).

"Joseph Hallock was a twenty-two-year-old first lieutenant serving as the bombardier aboard "Ginger" a B-17 flying out of its base north of London. Hallock dropped out of college to enlist in the Army Air Force in June 1942. After training as a bombardier, he arrived in England in November 1943 and began his combat career on the last day of the year..... Continued here:

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/b17.htm

Re: 1925 Iowa Census Shows Clarissa's Parents

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-23 16:57:31Z

Thanks for that correction.

I don't find a Hinchman in the Hallock Genealogy. I do find a Juliana Hallock, b 10/06/1810, at p RHb-2 of the Hallock Addendum, daughter of Charles and Ruth (Bayles) Hallock of Stony Brook. But no spouse or family shown for her.

Where did you get her name as his wife? Have you found obituaries of the bride and groom and children? You might look for a will for Charles Hallock.

Suggest you make a query in a separate post.

1925 Iowa Census Shows Clarissa's Parents

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-23 16:22:13Z

1925 Iowa Census Shows Clarissa's Parents

The 1925 Iowa Census is a gold mine of info because it listed both parents, mothers usually with maiden names, of every person in the census.

1925 IA census shows parents: Hulet Hallock, b NY, Julia Bace, b PA.

So, this shows that the name Hulet and Hurlburt were very likely the same person, as daughter Clarisa was in the house with Hurlburt in 1860.

The date of birth in the 1860 census is still a problem, but it looks more like a mistake after finding this record of Clarissa's parents. I'm thinking this moves this relationship from possible to probable - but not quite yet "almost certain". Finding Hulett's/Hurlbert's will or Clarissa's or Julia's obituaries might find the evidence to close the deal. Or info from one of Hulet's siblings (will, obituary, etc) where they are referring to nieces and nephews.

For those who subscribe to ancestry:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...

For those who don't, you might find this record on other free websites, like familysearch.org.

Granddaughter Charlotte Fuereman and Daughter Phebe with Robert Smith & Children - Agree with 1992 Hallock Addendum

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-23 06:23:39Z

Granddaughter Charlotte Fuereman and Daughter Phebe with Robert Smith & Children - Agree with 1992 Hallock Addendum

I have found some additional info in the 1992 Hallock Addendum at RHb-2, which may tie this Charles into the Peter Hallock tree (in spite of the 1880 census showing his parents were born in Ireland).

Pg RHb-2 of the 1992 Hallock Addendum shows a Charles Hallock in the large group of Stony Brook, Brookhaven, Suffolk, New York, with the following lineage:

Charles-8,7, Henry-6, Richard-5, William-4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

The following set of facts correspond between the 1992 Hallock Addendum and census records:

1) Date of birth of 04/23/1816 per 1992HA (Hallock Addendum) agrees with date of birth on the headstone of the Charles B Hallock of Babylon.

2) The 1992HA mentions a daughter Maud married an Arthur Fursman. The 1920 Census has a granddaughter named Charlotte Furseman in the household of the Charles B Hallock of Babylon. However, a perplexing question is why is there no Maud showing as a daughter of Charles in any of his census records (all are accounted for.)

3) The 1992HA mentions a daughter named Phebe married a Robert H Smith with children Robert, Harold, and Ruth. Such a woman is found with this husband and these children in Bablyon in 1900 and 1910. A daughter named Phebe Hallock was in Charles B Hallock's house in 1870 and 1880 at age 7 and 17, the corresponding age for the wife of the Robert Smith.

As usual, none of this information in the Hallock Genealogy is sourced or documented, so additional information is requested to confirm this tie into the Peter tree.

Re: 1925 Iowa Census Shows Clarissa's Parents

BettyNoonan233 — 2012-05-22 21:42:51Z

Just joined the Hallock board. Have been reading all your wonderful posts.

Regarding (1925 IA census shows parents: Hulet Hallock, b NY, Julia Brace, b PA.), I did look at the census page and believe mother's name is Julia C. Bace.

My Hallock line: GGGGrandparents Charles Hallock/Ruth Bayles. GGGrand Albert Hinchman/Julia (Juliana M.) Hallock.
This line goes back to Peter Hallock, Suffolk County.

I have not found documentation of marriage of Albert Hinchman and Julianna M. Hallock about 1831. Julianna was born in Stony Brook, LI, and Albert born in New Utrecht, (Bklyn) LI. Any ideas on where to look for this info? Any Methodist records in Stony Brook or New Utrecht?

Thank you.

Did Henry S-9, Son of John Clark-8 Hallock of IA, Die in the Civil War?

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-22 18:30:55Z

Did Henry S-9, Son of John Clark-8 Hallock of IA, Die in the Civil War?

Henry S-9, John Clark-8, James Cooley-7, Amos-6, Thomas-5, Peter-4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

Pg 416 of the 1928 Hallock Genealogy shows that John Clark of Iowa lost three sons in the Civil War: William, Samuel, and Henry; the latter shown as b 1835.

However, Henry S Hallock of Guthrie County, Iowa fr 1880-1920, shows:

1)He was born 1844 in Cedar County, Iowa, where John Clark Hallock was in the 1850 census with a 5 yr old son Henry.
2)Civil War Records at ancestry.com show that Henry S survived the war.
3) Henry S of Guthrie Co, IA named a son John C Hallock

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=civilwar_histd...

These pieces of evidence would seem to counter the assertion by the Hallock Genealogy that Henry-9 Hallock died in the Civil War and that he is likely the Henry S Hallock of Guthrie County, IA from 1880-1920.

There is one little chink in that argument. Henry S showed the birth place of his parents as:

______father ________mother

1880: Blank <<>> Vermont
1900: Blank <<>> Vermont
1910: Scotland <<>> Vermont
1920: Canada <<>> Vermont

John Clark's census records show he was born:

Father:

1850 - NY
1856 - Canada
1860 - NY

Mother:

1850 - Vermont
(after 1850, John Clark is shown with a different wife).
These differences in the father's birth place are troubling.

Also, there is nothing about Henry's headstone to indicate his Civil War Service. Civil War service was not always, but usually, shown on headstones.

Can anyone present additional confirming evidence that the Henry, son of John Clark Hallock is the Henry of Guthrie County, Iowa?

Is Hurlburt Hallock of Luzerne Co, PA = Hulett Hallock, son of Calvin Hallock?

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-22 18:24:38Z

Is Hurlburt Hallock of Luzerne Co, PA - Hulett Hallock, son of Calvin Hallock?

Calvin-7, Richard-6, Israel-5, Zebulon-4, William-3,2, Peter-1 Hallock

I see some trees that consider these men to be the same person. Would appreciate additional information to confirm that link. Pg 370 of The 1928 Hallock Genealogy shows that Hulett lived in Franklin, PA. The 1992 Hallock Addendum only adds a death date of 09/01/1867 and provides no more information.

Factors in favor:

1) Hurlburt lived in Franklin, Luzerne, PA in 1860. Asserted father Calvin and brother Merritt moved to Franklin, PA - in the 1880 census, twenty years later.
2) Names of Hulet/Hulett vs Hurlbert/Hurlburt are similar
3) 1860 census shows Hurlburt was born New York, which is where Calvin was in 1920-1930 censuses.
4) 1928 Hallock Genealogy says Hulett, b 1827, moved to Franklin, which is where Hurlburt is found in the 1860 census (but born 1808).

Factors that are a problem:

1) The only record with a date of birth I can find for Hurlburt is the 1860 census, which shows he is 52 years old, b 1808, with a 30 year old wife and oldest child (Clarissa) age 7. Could the 52 simply be a mistake? Or is this Hurlburt another relative of Calvin (eg a brother born in 1808?)
2) Hulett and Hurlbert are close variations... but close enough??

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in the Vietnam War

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-21 14:25:22Z

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in the Vietnam War

This is posted in connection with the upcoming Memorial Day. Feel free to post additional data as a reply to this post. Additional profile of these men are presented at (click on "profile" link:

http://www.vvmf.org/thewall

They want photos, as well - if you have any.

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Douglas Paul Hallock - Cpl Marine Corps, Schenectady, NY, 03/21/1946-04/30/1967

Wilbur Lewis J Hallock, Jr - Sgt Air Force - Orlando, FL, 12/09/1945-06/19/1968

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Please reply to this message if you know who their parents are, or lineage, or stories about them or how they died.

Added SSgt John L Hallock and PFC Richard H Hallock

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-21 14:15:25Z

Added SSgt John L Hallock and PFC Richard H Hallock

Added to above listing.

If anyone knows who they are (ie lineage, stories, etc), please reply.

Added Francis A and William Merritt Hallock to WWI List

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-21 04:39:31Z

Added Francis A and William Merritt Hallock to WWI List

Thanks for Marjorie Niesen for info re William Merritt Hallock.

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in the Revolutionary War

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-18 19:27:19Z

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in the Revolutionary War

I am posting this in anticipation of upcoming Memorial Day.

If there are others, please post additions, corrections, comments, etc as replies to this post.

Joseph Hallock - 1754-1778
Joseph-6, Peter-5,4,3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock
"Was commander of an armed vessel and died in a battle with British from the last shot that was before the enemy surrendered in the engagement." - Lucius H. Hallock, Hallock Genealogy - 1928, 431.

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in The War of 1812

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-18 19:02:25Z

In Memoriam - Hallocks or Spouses Who Died in The War of 1812

I am posting this in connection with the upcoming Memorial Day. Feel welcome to post additions, correction, comments as replies to this post.

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Joshua Hallock (1780-1812)
Joshua-6, Jonathan-5, Joshua-4, (__?__)-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock
Source: Lucius H. Hallock, Hallock Genealogy - 1928, 439.
The 1928 Hallock Genealogy mentions no wife but does mention a son "Capt John Hallock, was in the US Army". The Bertholf Genealogy shows a Martha Hallock married a Joshua Hallock, not otherwise found in the Hallock Genealogy. A 68 year old Martha Hallock is found in 1850 census in Batavia, Genesee, New York, who might be her.
Doesn't mention when, where or how he died.

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Halsey Youngs (1790-1814)
Halsey Youngs-8, Daniel Youngs-7, Abiah Swezey-6, Abiah Luce-5, Abiah Hallock-4, Peter-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock
Doesn't mention when, where, or how he died.
Source: Selah Youngs, Jr, Youngs Family (of Southold, New York) (NY, , 1907), 167.

Wallace E Hallock (1846-1918), of Illinois > Wisconsin > Parents?

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-16 18:57:09Z

Wallace E Hallock (1846-1918), of Illinois > Wisconsin > Parents?

The 1992 Hallock Addendum, p RHc-1, shows a Wallace E Hallock, with the following line of ascent:

Wallace E-8, Reuben-7, Isaiah-6, Moses-5, Peter-4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

A probable match is found in

1850-1860 censuses: Byron, Ogle, Illinois
1900-1910 censuses: Juneau, Dodge, Wisconsin
Civil War Records that show he was discharged from Andersonville Prison.

A death record that seems to match him is found in ancestry.com in Rockford, Winnebago, Illinois, USA, but showing different parents than the Hallock Genealogy:

Name: W. E. Hallock
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1846
Birth Place: Illinois
Death Date: 21 May 1918
Death Place: Rockford, Winnebago, Illinois
Burial Place: Juneau, Wis.

Father Name: Isaiah Hallock
Father Birth Place: N. Y.
Mother Name: Miller
Mother Birth Place: N. Y.

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QUERY

Are they the same person?
Was the informant uniniformed or misinformed?
Was the Isaiah being referred to meaning his grandfather? - Isaiah, but who died 1830, and his wife Rachel Stanton?

Does anyone have additional info to add to this mystery?

Thanks for your contribution to the Peter Hallock Genealogy.

Hendric-7 Hallock (1790-xxxx) > A Ghost? Too Many Generations??

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-16 15:59:11Z

Hendric-7 Hallock (1790-xxxx) > A Ghost? Too Many Generations??

The 1928 Hallock Genealogy shows the ancestors of two brothers: Hendrickson-8, married Rebecca Bishop, and Herman-8 Hallock as, beginning with their father:

Hendric-7, b 1790, Hendrickson-6, Noah-5, Noah-4, Peter-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock.

A review of the dates involving generations 6 through 8 show this lineage to be impossible and that Hendric-7 is almost certainly a ghost and never existed. Rather, the Hendrickson and Herman Hallock brothers were almost certainly sons of Hendrickson-6, along with sisters Sarah Ann & Caroline - and should all be shown as generation 7.

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HENDRICKSON HALLOCK 1760-1817

Hendrickson Hallock, d 03/26/1817, age 58y (ie born 03/27/1858-03/26/1859 - used 1858) (HG says 1860). Steifel, Higgins, & Johnson, The Noah Hallock Cemetery of Rocky Point (Rocky Point Historical Society, Dec 1998), interment.net.

See photo of headstone of Hendrick:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

See photo of Wife Sarah (1772-1842)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

Will Abstract:

Elizabeth R. Van Buren, Will of Hallock, Hendrickson - 1817/1817 (Will Abstracts of Suffolk Co, NY, Liber D, pg 7, LDS Film 860327), Testator, name Hendrickson in header, signed Hendrick.

"Hendrickson H, (or K.) Hallock of Brookhaven. 24 Mch 1817. Will signed "Hendrick". Bequests to wife Sarah and estate for widowhood or until son is 21. Land bought of brother Phillip to sons Hendrick and Herman. Legacies to daughters Sarah Ann and Caroline, and furniture afer their mother. Exts: Sarah and Phillip Hallock, Timothy Miller. Wits: Russell Green, Peter Scidmore, Phillip Hallock. Pro: 6 May, 1817. pp 76-78."

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CHILDREN OF HENDRICK-6 NAMED IN WILL FOUND IN LATER CENSUSES

Hendrickson/Hendrick - born 1804 per 1850 and 1860 censuses. Found with wife Rebecca and children. (This Hendrick shown as Hendrick-8 in the 1928 Hallock Genealogy, with Hendric-7 (ghost?) and wife as parents between Hendrick-6 and Hendrick-8 Hallock.

Caroline - born 1806 per 1850 census (in Hendrick's house). It appears she ended a spinster. She was unmarried with her maiden name through age 54 in her brother Hendrick's house.

Herman Hallock - born 1812 per 1850 census. Married Harriet Howell and had Rosaline. Descendants will be interested in Harriet Howell's ancestry, which is presented, along with a sketch of her family at: Thomas H. Donnelly, Genealogy of the Family of Richard Howell (Heritage Books, Inc., 2000), p 357. Children of this couple may be interested to know that Harriet B Howell had two Hallock lines of descent herself; meaning their descendants will have three Hallock lines of descent. Her two Hallock lines are:

HALLOCK: Harriet B Howell-8, Merritt Howell-7, Sarah Luce-6, Eleazer Luce-5, Abiah Hallock-4, Peter-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

HALLOCK: Harriet B Howell-8, Abraham Luce-7, Eleazer Luce-6, Abiah Hallock-5, Peter-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

I have not yet located Sarah Ann. Additional info is welcome on her.

Note: Hendrick-6's will showed at least one son under 21 (could have been both). Actual ages of both brothers per above census records were under 21 in 1817.
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COORDINATION OF BIRTH DATES OF HENDRICK-6 AND WIFE SARAH.

Per his headstone, he was born 1758, meaning he didn't have his first child until he had this set of children from age 46 to age 54 (such children born late in his life may have been why the HG authors thought there should be another generation "sandwiched" in.) Per her headstone, Sarah was born 1772, meaning she could have had a child in 1790 (when the Hallock says the ghostly Hendric-7 was born), but he couldn't have had the children born as early as 1804 - but more importantly, Hendrick-6 is the one who mentioned these four children in his will. Sarah would have this set of four children from 1804-1812, when she would have been 32-40 years old - which fits into a time frame for a woman's child bearing years.
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CONCLUSION IS THAT HENDRICK-7 (per 1928 Hallock Genealogy) IS A GHOST

Sarah (wife of Hendrick-6) would have been child-bearing age, using age 18 to begin, as 1772+18=1790. So, she could have had the son Hendric b 1790, but he would almost not certainly could not have had Hendrick, b 1804 and Caroline, b 1806.

Further, the children stated in Hendrick-6's will are later found in census records. The "extra generation" of Hendric-7 is not found in any other record.

I suggest that the Hendrick-7 Hallock given in the 1928 Hallock Genealogy is a ghost and subsequent generations be accordingly adjusted. Additional information is welcome.

Is Samuel Hallock, b 1822, of Faribault Co, MN > Son of David (1770-1846) and Sarah (Ayers) Hallock of Steuben Co, NY?

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-16 15:55:39Z

Is Samuel Hallock of Faribault Co, MN > Son of David and Sarah (Ayers) Hallock of Steuben Co, NY?

This tree at ancestry.com presents a fairly detailed synopsis of the family, including references to census records, and, especially copies of old letters; but is lacking on documenting of some of the the relationships and sources for maiden names:

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/19204233/person/770000820?ftm...

This tree presents the ancestry of this Samuel as the son of:

David-6, Joshua-5,4, __?__-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

This David is a descendant of Joshua-4, who the Hallock Genealogies stipulate is son of William-3; however, William-3 left a will and did not mention Joshua-4. There is no report of any of his descendants being Quaker, either. There is little doubt he is a grandson of William-2 Hallock, but whether he is from Thomas-3 or Peter-2 is not known.

Both the 1928 Hallock Genealogy do show a Samuel-7 Hallock as a son of this David. The wife of David is given in the published genealogies (p 234, 1928 Hallock Genealogy and ZHh-1 of the 1992 Addendum) as Sally Ayers Dougherty. The above referenced web page shows her maiden name as Ayers (could Dougherty be a married name?); and that Samuel-7's middle name was also Ayers - but no documentation for either assertion.

It should be noted that Simpson-7 Hallock of Steuben County, New York is shown in the City Clerk's Civil War Record as a son of David and Elizabeth (Kinney), born 03/01/1818, Tysone, New York (which I can't find) and living at the time of his enlistment in Elmira, Chemung, New York.

Additional info is welcome, concerning documentation of:

1) Were parents of Samuel of Minnesota: David and Sarah (Ayers) Hallock?
2) How does Elizbeth Kinney tie into the picture? How many wives did David have and who were they?
3) Where does maiden name of Godding come from for Sallie A, wife of Samuel?
4) Can the chilren of David be documented, via will or real estate deeds or family bible entries or ???.

Thanks for your support of Peter Hallock Genealogy.

NON-PETER LINE: Joseph fr Poland to Erie Co, NY

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-08 17:38:57Z

NON-PETER LINE: Joseph fr Poland to Erie Co, NY

Joseph Halleck, b 1853, Poland, parents born Poland, in Buffalo, Erie, New York in 1930 census.

Migrated 1910.

Family: Wife Sophie, b 1903, NY, parents born Poland. Children: Edward, Florence, Henry

NOTE: To search for all Non-Peter lines, search: "NON-PETER"

NON-PETER LINE: Andrew > From Norway to Dakota then Minnesota

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-08 16:54:21Z

Andrew and Dorothea Hallock married 1868 in Norway, migrated to the US in 1870, were in Dakota Territory in 1880 and Minnesota in 1900, with a family of ten children.

They were not consistent in their spelling of the name. It varied from Hallick to Halleck to Hallock to Hallack in various records.

The links for ancestry census records for 1880 and 1900 are:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&a...

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&a...

To find other Non-Peter lines, do a search in this board for "NON-PETER LINE".

Possible Lead > Baldwin Genealogy Names Father of Julia md Junius Baldwin as: Dennis Hallock of Cairo, NY and Goshen, CT ??

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-06 14:22:03Z

Possible Lead > Baldwin Genealogy Names Father of Julia md Junius Baldwin as: Dennis Hallock of Cairo, NY and Goshen, CT

http://archive.org/details/baldwingenealogy00bald
or text at:
http://archive.org/stream/baldwingenealogy00bald/baldwingene...

The Baldwin Genealogy from 1500-1881
By Charles Candee Baldwin
1881

Pg 379

"904 Junius-6 (Stephen-5, George-4, Daniel-3, George-1, John-1) Baldwin b in Goshen, (CT), 09/15/1807, in 1844, living in Goshen. He settled in Torrington (CT), and d there 06/10/1861, of typoid fever. He md Julia A. P., dau of Dennis Hallock, Cairo, Greene Co, NY, Sep 14, 1828; she was born Sep 19, 1805. He (Junius or Dennis Hallock?) was a farmer and lived in North Goshen, CT.

1505. Eliza Hannah, b. Aug. 1, 1829; m., .Jau. 28, 1850, Daniel Kimberly, of
Goshen, b. Dec. 21, 1836, s. Henry aud Silvia (Curtiss), of Go.shen. He enlisted in
the late war, Aug. 28, 1861, for three years, aud before his time was out, re-enlisted
for three years, was wounded, and d. in the hospital at Hampton, Va., July 5, 1864.
Children: .Julia Silvia, Sept. 10, 1857, aud Carrie Sedalia, Feb. 8, 1861.

1506. Lydia Lucedia, Sept. 29, 1832: d. .June 23, 1841.

1507. .Junius Dudley, Dec. 5, 1835; d. -June 18, 1841.

1508. Stephen John, June 15, 1833; d. June 8, 1841.

These three died of scarlet fever.

1509. Caroline J^ucretia, Nov. 13, 1840; d. Sept. 12, 1861.

1510. .Juuius Dudley, Dec. 26, 1843; d. April 18, 1861.

1511. .James Burgess, Sept. 14, 1846, iu Torrington, Conn.; m.. May 6, 1888.
Martha E., dau. George Merrimau, of Litchrteld, Conn., and has ch. : Charles
Hodges, June 25, 1870. aud Ralph Alerriman, June 17, 1874."

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There is a Dennis Hallock who might be an interesting candidate to pursue.

Connecticut Town Birth Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)
Name: Dennis Hallock
[Dennis Halliock]
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1782
Birth Location: Branford
Parent Name: Nathn
[Nathan]
Parent Name: Lucretia
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Connecticut Town Birth Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.
Original data: White, Lorraine Cook, ed. The Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records. Vol. 1-55. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1994-2002.

This particular Dennis could be the one referred to as Denman at pp 514-5 of the Hallock Genealogy. His line was:

Dennis/Denman-7, Nathan-6, Israel-5, Zebulon-4, William-3,2, Peter-1 Hallock

Note: Branford is on the Long Island Sound coast, while Goshen is 60 miles north of Branford.

These bits and pieces of clues need more work to put together (or asunder).

UNPLACED: Dudley Hallock (1807-1840), Goshen, CT

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-06 14:16:46Z

UNPLACED: Dudley Hallock (1807-1840), Goshen, CT

EARLY GOSHEN MARRIAGES

Could the Hallock participants in the three marriages shown below be siblings and from an earlier Hallock progenitor? Perhaps early deeds might reveal his identity? I an unable to find these Hallocks in the published Hallock Genealogies. Additional information is welcome.

http://dunhamwilcox.net/barbour/goshen_barbour_l-o.htm

Transcribed from the Barbour Records Collection:

Hallock:
Dudley F, m Ann M BAILEY, b of Goshen, Dec 15, 1830, by Rev George Carrington
Julia, m Junius BALDWIN, b of Goshen, Sept 14, 1828, by Frederick Marsh
Lydia, m William HURD, Apr 5, 1827, by Rev Francis H Case
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MOTHER OF DUDLEY (SR) - LYDIA? - 1820 CENSUS - Did she marry William Hurd?

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...

1820 Note there is a Lydia Hallock, head of household in 1820 in Goshen: Herself-26-44 and one son 10-15. The son fits the age of Dudley, b 1807. She does not re-appear in 1830, suggesting she died or remarried.

Could this widow Lydia Hallock be the Lydia in the above marriage to William Hurd, and who is listed in Find-A-Grave in Center Cemetery with the first two generations of Hallocks as:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hu...;

Hurd, Lydia, wife of William, died Jan. 26, 1844, age 61 yrs. 9 mos. 6 days.

She fits the age of the Lydia Hallock in 1820 Goshen census and the 1827 marriage would explain why she is not in the 1830 census.

Note, where is Julia Hallock who married Junius Baldwin in the 1820 census? If she is a sister of Dudley, one would expect her in the 1820 census, but there are no girls in the 1820 census with Lydia and Dudley.

This 1840 census record for William Hurd, if it belongs the William Hurd who married Lydia Hallock, shows a young man the age of Dudley and a much younger woman(wife? Step-daughter?) the same age of the 1820 Lydia:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=18...

Note that a Junius Baldwin and William Hurd are on the same page of the above referenced 1840 census. Junius Baldwin married Julia Hallock and William Hurd married Lydia Hallock in the marriages listed above.
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DUDLEY HALLOCK 1807-1840

Dudley (Sr) is found in the 1840 census (age 30-39), wife 20-29, 1 boy 5-9, and 3 boys under 5.

An entry apparently for Dudley's wife Ann (Bailey) is in the censuses for 1850-1880. She also applied for a Civil War Pension on account of the service of her son, Dudley.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1840usfedcenan...
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CENTER CEMETERY RECORDS FOR GOSHEN - HALLOCK

Center Cemetery from the Hale Collection:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ctlitch2/cemeteries/goshen...

Hallock, Ann M. Bailey, wife of Dudley F., born Apr. 3, 1811, died May 27, 1894.
Hallock, Caroline L. Austin, wife of Orian J., born May 31, 1836, died Jan. 21, 1907.
Hallock, Dudley F., died Oct. 28, 1840, age 33.
Hallock, Dudley F., son of Dudley F. & Ann M., died Feb. 6, 1863, age 25. Civil War.
Hallock, H. Gav, born June 1, 1875, died Apr. 14, 1912.
Hallock, Hubie, son of Orion & Caroline, died Sept. 9, 1866, age 7 wks.
Hallock, Orian J., born Sept. 9, 1831, died Aug. 17, 1918.
Hallock, Orson, child of Dudley & Ann H., died June 9, 1841, age 5 yrs, 7 mos.
Hallock, Orson, child of Dudley & Ann M., died June 20, 1835, age 1 yr. 6 mos.

See also Find-A-Grave entries for these burials, with some photos, here:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=H...;
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WERE ORION AND ASAHEL BROTHERS?

Orian/Orion and Asahel appear in various censuses (separately) later in the 1800s in Goshen. Orion is shown as born nine months after the Dudley Hallock / Ann Bailey marriage. Asahel is shown at age 10 with Ann Hallock, his presumed mother. Orion does not appear with Ann in any cenuses after names for individuals were used in 1850 - unless the 1860 Orion, age 25 is him - and if that entry is him, it is a second entry for him, as he is also listed with his wife, Caroline, in the 1860 census.

There is one fact that is troubling in treating them as brothers. Orion/Orian consistently showed in all censuses 1880 forward that his parents were born NY CT. Asahel showed in all censuses 1880 forward that his parents were born CT CT. Did one brother mis-remember where their father was born? Orian would have only been 9 and Asahel an infant when their father died. Or are they not brothers at all? Further info from a will or real estate records would be helpful. (Note that Ann showed she owned real estate in 1870 and so there should be real estate deeds from her, either after 1870 as a sale or transfer - possibly to heirs, or after 1894, when she died.)

Accounting for the four brothers: Note Orian was born nine months after the marriage date of his parents. The 1840 census showed 1 boy 5-9, which fits Orian. There were three boys under 5. These could be Dudley, Asahel, and the third would be the second boy named Orson, who died 1841. So, at this point all of those four boys seem accounted for. A problem then comes with the boy named Orson /Orian in the 1860 census - 25 years old. Since 28 year old Orian with wife Caroline is also in the 1860 census, was he listed twice? Or is this another person, or was Orian not a son of Dudley at all - as is suggested by his parents birthplaces as NY CT?

See:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1840usfedcenan...
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HUMPHREY CONNECTION?

There is a Dudley Humphrey in the 1840 census in Goshen on the same page with Junius Baldwin and William Hurd.

Then, in the 1840 census next door to Dudley Hallock are: Eliathan/Eliaken and Obediah Humphrey; and on the same page Mary, Harlow, and Henry Humphrey

Are there any blood connections going on between the Hallocks and the Humphreys??

Will of Ichabod-4 Hallock, Died 1759

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-06 14:15:43Z

Will of Ichabod-4 Hallock, Died 1759

Ichabod-4, Thomas-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

This is the grandfather of Thomas-6, who married Sarah Bedell and settled in New Providence, Essex, New Jersey, USA:

Abstracts of Wills Vol V 1754-1760
Pelletrau
Pg 404

Page 133.--"In the name of God, Amen, The 23 of October, 1759. I, ICHABOD HALLOCK, of Southold, being of sound mind. I leave to my son, Thomas Hallock, all my apparell or wearing clothes and 100. I leave to my daughter, Bethiah Reeve, 10#. To my daughter, Sarah Billard, 10#. To my grand daughter, Mary Hallock, daughter of my deceased son, Ichabod Hallock, 5# when she is 18. I leave to my daughter, Patience Moore, after payment of debts and funeral expenses, 1/2 of my movable estate, and to my daughter, Anna Homan, the other 1/2. I make my sons in law, Silas Moore and William Homan, executors."

Witnesses, Joshua Wells, Simeon Benjamin. Proved, December 29, 1759, before Samuel Landon, Surrogate.
Page 404

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WILL SUMMARY
Ichabod Hallock
Dates: Written: 10/23/1759; Proved: 12/29/1759
Wife: None named
Sons: Thomas, Ichabod (deceased)
Daughters: Bethiah Reeve, Sarah Billard, Patience Moore, Anna Homan
Granddaughter: Mary Hallock, dau of deceased son Ichabod, under 18
Sons-in-law: Silas Moore, William Homan
Executors: my sons in law, Silas Moore and William Homan
Witnesses: Joshua Wells, Simeon Benjamin

Thomas-6 Hallock (1762-1822) and Sarah Bedell of New Jersey - 12 Children

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-06 14:14:11Z

Thomas-6 Hallock (1762-1822) and Sarah Bedell of New Jersey - 12 Children

The 1851 genealogy for "Passaic Valley.." NJ, referred to below, contains a bushel-basketful of Hallock descendants of this couple that are not in the published Hallock Genealogies. They are the 12 children and descendants of Thomas and Sarah (Bedell) Hallock of "the Passaic Valley above Chatham", New Jersey. Note Chatham is about 90 miles due east of Brookhaven, Suffolk NY and abt 118 miles due east of Southold, Suffolk, New York.
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LINE/PARENTS PER 1928 HALLOCK GENEALOGY

Thomas-6,5, Ichabod-4, Thomas-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

Pg 603 of the 1928 Hallock Genealogy says "Thomas, 3rd, was son of Thomas, 2nd, son of Ichabod. Was born in 1762 and died 1822. Married about 1785. Had son: Smith Hallock, born about 1786. Lived in New Providence, NJ, Nothing more is known about him."
End of 1928 Hallock excerpt.

Note Smith Hallock is listed No 2 in the list of children below; and in the 1830 census in New Providence, Essex, New Jersey, age 40-59, or born 1781-1790. Smith Hallock, enlisted in War of 1812, served as a private, Capt Dole's Riflemen, NY Militia. (Records at ancestry.com)
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PASSAIC VALLEY GENEALOGY

"Family records, or, Genealogies of the first settlers of Passaic Valley and vicinity above Chatham, with their ancestors and descendants as far as can now be ascertained"
John Littell
1851

Found on the internet at below links. Do a Control-F (ie Control-Find) search to find the various families, except Google Books. There use the Search box in the left panel. (many grandchildren, especially from the daughters) are on pages of the husbands' families.

http://www.archive.org/stream/familyrecordsorg00litt/familyr...

http://dunhamwilcox.net/nj/passaic_7.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=Tdaujk3LswcC&printsec=f...

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These are the children. Grandchildren are also shown at the above pages:

"THOMAS HALLOCK
THOMAS HALLOCK lived between the 1st and 2d mountains. He married Sarah Bedell, (daughter of Moses Bedell, and Elizabeth Littell, daughter of David Littell,) and had children :

1. David, who died unmarried.
2. Smith, who married Jane Raddin, daughter of Jeremiah Raddin, as her 3d husband.
3. John married Betsey, the widow of Moses Roff and had a son, John.
4. Betsey married, 1st, Abraham Walker ; 2d, Jonathan Walker, sons of Asher. [See Walker.]
5. Polly married Hugh Davis, son of John Davis, of Washington Valley.
6. Catherine married Alexander Freeman, son of Henry, of Elizabethtown.
7. Susan married, 11th February, 1815, Thomas Mulligan, from Ireland ; lives in New York.
8. Thompson, who died a young man, unmarried.
9. William married Sarah Tucker, of New York ; lived there.
10. Fanny, born 20th June, 1804, married Joseph Pope, son of Samuel.
11. Caroline married John Van Buren ; lived in New York.
12. Sibbel, who died in infancy.

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Additional information is most definitely wanted for this branch. If anyone was looking for a genealogy project, tracking this branch down to and through the 1940 census should keep somebody busy for quite awhile.

LtJG Roscius Irving Downs, Jr > WWII Casualty > Seven Hallock Lines of Descent

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-06 14:10:37Z

Roscius Irving Downs, Jr > WWII Casualty > Seven Hallock Lines of Descent

Roscius Irving Downs, Jr, the son of Roscius Irving and Mabel (Curtis) Downs, was born 1918 in New Jersey and died at sea during World War II. His burial memorial, in England, at Find-A-Grave is here:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Do...;

In tieing out his parents, I find that Roscius had SEVEN lines of descent from Peter Hallock - and those are only the lines I know about, as my database is only partial when it comes to the Downs family.

This situation is not uncommon for descendants of Long Island ancestors and will only get more prevalent and more complicated as time goes on as more and more Long Island natives marry each other.

For some reason, this report from FTM is only showing six lines, whereas the Relationship Calculator of FTM clearly shows seven lines for him. There is something wrong with FTM in omitting the seventh line, but at least you can see six of them. See attached.

Parents of Daniel-7 Hallock (1795-1871) of Woodhull, NY - Benjamin-6 or Daniel B-6??

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-06 14:07:42Z

Parents of Daniel-7 Hallock (1795-1871) of Woodhull, NY - Benjamin-6 or Daniel B-6??

There appear to be conflicting parents for Daniel-7 of Woodhull, Steuben, NY - brothers Daniel B-6 and Benjamin-6 Hallock. Will the real parents of this Daniel please stand up?
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1992 HALLOCK ADDENDUM

The 1992 Hallock Addendum, p DH-1 (undocumented), shows the family of Daniel and Sylvia (Sherman) Hallock, with children Gabriel, Abram, James Knox, Diana, and Clarissa Hallock and settled Woodhull, Steuben, NY. This Daniel is shown as a son of Daniel B-6 and Katherine (Bailey) Hallock: This Daniel is:

Daniel-7, Daniel B-6, Benjamin-5,4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

Note this family is in the Quaker branch (ie John-3)
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PARENTS ASSERTED BY SOME ON THE INTERNET

Some researchers and trees on the internet carry this Daniel who married Sylvia Sherman and lived in Woodhull, Steuben, NY as the son of Benjamin and Clarissa (Peet) Hallock. This would make Daniel's ancestry as:

Daniel-7, Benjamin-6,5,4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

(Daniel B-6 and Benjamin-6 are brothers)

Note this family is also in the Quaker branch (ie John-3)

See:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hallock/70.84.85.91.116....

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1928 HALLOCK GENEALOGY

The 1928 Hallock Genealogy, p 229, says Daniel-7, Benjamin-6 b 1785, moved to Deerfield, Tioga, Pennsylvania with no further information.

This reference, also p 229, says Daniel-7, Daniel B-6, b 1795, lived in Kent, CT with no further information.

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The existence of a daughter named Clarissa may point towards Benjamin-6 and Clarissa as parents, but then again, Clarissa may have been a popular name of the era, or simply named after her aunt, if she is from Daniel B-6.

Can anyone provide confirming documentation of who were the parents of the Daniel who married Sylvia Sherman and lived in Woodhull, Steuben, New York?

Daniel B Hallock (1805-????) of Brookhaven, NY. Wife Joanna > Where Did They Go?

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-06 14:06:20Z

Daniel B Hallock (1805-????) of Brookhaven, NY. Wife Joanna > Where Did They Go?

Daniel B-7, Benjamin-6, William-5, Peter-4,3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

Pg 229 of the 1928 Hallock Genealogy shows for this Daniel B: "Was son of Benjamin and Sarah-Hallock. Was born 11/03/1805, at Middle Island, L.I. His home was in Patchogue, L.I. Married."

No further info is presented. There is an 1860 census entry for Brookhaven that would appear to match this Daniel - but then his family seems to disappear from Long Island and I have failed to pick up their trail. Or perhaps the parents died and the children were spread to the four winds and are hard to pick up as individuals. I haven't found him in 1850 yet either.

Here is a summary of the 1860 Brookhaven census entry:

Danl B Hallock 44
Joanna Hallock 33
Chas Hallock 14
Ede Hallock 12
Josephine Hallock 9
John Hallock 7
Mare Hallock 5
Ellen Hallock 3
Saml Hallock 0

If you have an ancestry subscription, the entry is here:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenan...

The entry should be findable at familysearch.org, as well.

I did find an 12 year old Ellen E in 1870 in Brookhaven, in the home of Franklin and Serepta Overton, but otherwise have hit a dead end.

Additional information is welcome.

Will Abstract at Ancestry.Com

silverfox3280 — 2012-05-02 23:52:12Z

Thanks, Jere, for that valuable info for that branch. That means descendants of two of the sons have a different maternal ancestry than previously thought.

I have found an abstract of William's will at ancestry.com that confirms his last wife was named Hannah. It also names a total of 14 children, but the abstract doesn't mention anything about the mothers of the children. Curiously, the list of children agrees with the revised list that was included in the 1992 Addendum, implying that the 1992 Addendum relied on the will for that list (although no source was quoted), but no mention is made, in the 1992 Addendum, that the wife mentioned in the will was named Hannah.

This is what is showing in the abstract, at:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=genealogy-glh1...

Abstracts of Wills of Otsego County, NY. Copied from originals at Surrogates Office, Cooperstown, NY, by Gertrude Barber.

P 71, William Hallock of Worcester
Dated: 11/08/1821, probated Dec 1821

Mentions sons:

Wm
Daniel
Linas
Richard
Benton
Samuel
David
Stephen

Mentions Daughters:

Clariens
Mary
Parvel
Charity
Phebe
Silva

Mentions granddaughter:

Clarianna dau Silva
(Not clear if "Clariana, dau of Silva", or "Clariana's dau, Silva")

Executors: Daniel Hallock, Richard Hallock
Witnesses: Daniel Crippen, John Crippen, David L Smith

William-6 Hallock (1756-1821), Otsego, NY Second Wife Hannah Bagley

Jere_Becker — 2012-04-30 17:36:57Z

Re: Samuel B-7, William-6, Israel-5, Zebulon-4, William-3,2, Peter-1 Hallock

I recently received a full pension file (150+ pages) from the National Archives on Hannah (Bagley) Hallock, former widow of John Shutts (file designation W17042 Shutts, John; see postscript). The file documents her children’s attempt in the 1840s and 1850s to get the Revolutionary pension due to her estate for the period from March 4, 1831 to April 11, 1841 when she died.

From reading through the file, it becomes clear that Hannah Bagley married 1st John Shutts and then 2nd William Hallock. The file clearly states that Hannah remarried to William in 1803, and that Samuel and David were her sons with William (she also had Shutts children by her first marriage).

Question: Is this the correct William Hallock?

One difference is that in the pension file, William Hallock’s death is given as September 1822 in Otsego County, New York; the place is correct, but the date is a year off – 1822 rather than 1821 as in the published genealogies. Some links that may be useful:
Vital records: http://theusgenweb.org/ny/otsego/vitals/wordeath.htmIndex of wills: http://theusgenweb.org/ny/otsego/wills/barbereh.htm (shows wife’s name as Hannah)both of which suggest the correct year is 1821. However, the mistake in years is one that can easily be understood, considering it was made by his step-children 25 years after his death. What is compelling to me is the correspondence of his spouse’s name. And no records are found for a William Hallock who died in 1822.

In the pension file, it states that Samuel moved to Pennsylvania and he can be found in Crawford County, Pennsylvania in 1850 & 1860, as shown by the US census. This place is specifically mentioned in the published genealogies.

And finally, the 1820 census for William Hallock’s household in Worcester, Otsego, New York, in which the age and sex of the two youngest children matches what would be expected for David & Samuel, based on later censuses of their households.

The correspondence of William’s name, death date and place, name of widow, names of sons David and Samuel B., the residence of Samuel B. in 1850-60, and household composition in 1820, all point to this William as the correct one.

-Jere Becker-

Postscript: Images for parts of this file are available on Heritage Quest online (available through many libraries), and partial transcription of the file is available online at the USGenWeb Archives: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ny/columbia/military/revwar/pe...
Link to post related to this one titled “Two Samuel B Hallocks in Early Wisconsin > Tentative Places in the Hallock Tree‏” can be foundon Ancestry: http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hallock/552/mb.ashx or Rootsweb: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hallock/552/mb.ashx

Re: Charles and Emma Hallock, Ossining, New York

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-30 13:07:32Z

I would suggest you contact the Westchester County Genealogical Society - see here for snail mail address or email addresses of officers

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywcgs/#Address

They might suggest a local "brick and mortar" museum or library that takes in such material. They also may be able to gather volunteers to transcribe the diary and even put it on-line. They could check with a lawyer, but it should be in the public domain and transcribable within the next ten years, if it isn't already.

Re: Charles and Emma Hallock, Ossining, New York

mrsdalloway — 2012-04-29 23:26:50Z

Thank you for the information. There might not be any other descendants. I was able to get as far I did in searching because Charles mentioned his doctor's last name: Helm,and I searched him and found him in Ossining. Charles also mentioned taking trips to towns and villages in Westchester County. Everyone else mentioned did not have a surname! Then I did a search using only Alonzo's first name, and then I found the family in Ossining.

Charles and Emma Hallock, Ossining, New York

mrsdalloway — 2012-04-29 14:50:24Z

Seeking descendants of Charles Hallock and his wife Emma who lived in Ossining, Westchester County, New York in 1930s. He was retired from the New York Central RR as a ticket agent. Son Alonzo Hallock and dtr-in-law Vivian also in Ossining.. Charles and Emma's dtr was Harriet Weyant, grandson William Weyant who died in Briarcliff Manor, New York in 1982. I have Charles's diary from 1932 and it appears to be written during his last year of life. It belongs with a family member. Was found among donated books to our Friends of the Library book sorting

Two Samuel B Hallocks in Early Wisconsin > Tentative Places in the Hallock Tree

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-28 13:57:07Z

Two Samuel B Hallocks in Early Wisconsin > Tentative Places in the Hallock Tree

There are two Samuel B Hallocks, born 1806-1811, early to Wisconsin. They can be tentatively placed in the Hallock Genealogy, but more proof is needed to prove (or disprove) their parents.

The A's below are intended to represent one of the Samuels; the B's the other Samuel.

CENSUS RECORDS

A - Samuel B Hallock, wife Jane, born c 1806, was in Crawford Co, PA censuses in 1850 and 1860, then Waushara Co, Wisconsin censuses in 1870 and 1880.

B - Samuel B Hallock, wife Catherine, born c 1811, was in New York City in 1850, then Springvale, Columbia Co, Wisconsin in 1870 and 1880. (Haven't found in 1860 yet)
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HALLOCK GENEALOGIES

A - Entry at pg 568 1928 Hallock Genealogy and WHa-1 of 1992 Hallock Addendum, Samuel Hallock, b about 1804, "Lived in Crawford County, PA". No more data. Father lived in Worcester, Otsego, NY.
Line: Samuel B-7, William-6, Israel-5, Zebulon-4, William-3,2, Peter-1 Hallock

B - Entry at pg 569 of 1928 Hallock Genealogy, Samuel Hallock, b about 1790. "of Wisconsin". No more data. Father lived Monroe, Orange Co, New York.
Line: Samuel B-8, Samuel-7, Daniel-6, John-5,4,3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock
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BURIAL RECORDS

A - None found.

B - Samuel Bull Hallock, no photo, at find-a-grave, b Jun. 20, 1811, Monroe, Orange County, New York, USA, Death: Oct. 6, 1898, Oshkosh, Winnebago County, Wisconsin, USA. Buried Riverside Cemetery, Oshkosh Cemetery, Oshkosh, Winnebago Co, Wisconsin. Buried in same cemetery with wife Catherine and son Samuel Whitfield Hallock. See:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=H...;

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OTHER RECORDS

B - Note: The birth record of Laura (Lora) Hallock, shows the birthplace of her father, Samuel Whitefield Hallock, as New York City. Census records put his birth as 1852-1855. This is right after his parents, Samuel B and Catherine, are found in New York City, in 1850 census, as a carpenter. This gives corroborating evidence that the Samuel B Hallock in NYC was the Samuel B in Wisconsin - but doesn't add any info confirming the identity of the parents of the "B" Samuel B.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FSWisconsinBir...
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ON-LINE TREES WITH SOURCES

An online tree presentation with sources. Note the links for pedigree, descendant report, register report, and ahnentafel report.

A: The PA-to-WI Samuel B:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

B: The NYC-to-WI Samuel B:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

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Additional info is welcome.

Samuel-6 Halleck, (1766-1855), Oneida, NY > Wives

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-27 13:00:16Z

Samuel-6 (1766-1855), Oneida, NY > Wives
Patriarch of the Westmoreland, Oneida County Hallecks.

Samuel-6, Israel-5, Zebulon-4, William-3,2, Peter-1 Hallock

Note the spelling HALLECK of this branch, with Samuel apparently the first one in this branch to use it (somewhat) consistently.

Info presented at Find-A-Grave suggests this Samuel had another wife (or maybe two more) and that the oldest boy (Parker) may be from another woman: Anna Arden.
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1928 HALLOCK GENEALOGY

Pg 568 of the 1928 Hallock Genealogy contains a sketch for this Samuel (using Hallock spelling) that shows a Lydia Peabody, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Pabodie of Norwich, Conn as his wife. This woman is presented in such a way as to presume she was his only wife and mother of the three children presented: Parker, Abraham, Hosea. She is said in this sketch to be descendant of John and Priscilla (Mullins) Alden of the Mayflower.
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TWO GROUPS OF HALLECKS IN ONEIDA COUNTY, NEW YORK

Westmoreland was the ancestral home of Samuel-6 and his descendants. He was:

Samuel-6, Israel-5, Zebulon-4, William-3,2, Peter-1 Hallock

Westernville, Oneida, New York was the ancestral home of the Hallecks (also used the E spelling) who produced the Civil War General Henry Wager Halleck: Jabez-7 Halleck. The patriarch pf this branch, who moved from Long Island, was:

Jabez-6, Peter-5,4,3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock. Jabez was 98 years old with his 89 year old second wife Rebecca in the home of his deceased son's family, Barnabas Wines Halleck, in the 1860 census in Western (post office Westernville), Oneida, NY.

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FIND-A-GRAVE

There are sixty entries in FAG for Oneida County for the Halleck spelling; eighteen in the Westmoreland Union (New) Cemetery, Westmoreland, Oneida, NY, with information presented below (no photos or source given)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=H...;

Anna (Arden) Halleck
Died Sep, 1793
Inscription: Wife of Samuel
My Comment: The death date suggests the record is referring to Samuel-6 Halleck, the patriarch of the Oneida County Hallecks.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

Lydia (Peabody) Halleck
Died 03/11/1832, age 59-1-4
Webtext says she was first wife, second was Abigail F. (which contradicts there being an Anna).
My Comment: The Memorialist is confused. Lydia was a wife of Samuel-6, Abgail F was the wife of Samuel-6's grandson, Samuel-8, son of Abraham Harding Hallock. See census records for the couple from 1860-1880 and Abigail by herself later.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

Abigail F (__) Halleck
Died 12/26/1924
Webtext: Second wife of Samuel
My Comment: This is the wife of Samuel-6's grandson: Samuel-8, Abraham H-7, Samuel-6 Halleck.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;
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WHICH WIFE MOTHER TO WHICH SONS?

Note that Parker-7 Halleck, buried in the same cemetery, was born Nov 1792, the year BEFORE the death of the Anna (Arden) Hallock. This information would suggest that Anna was his mother, and not Lydia Peabody.

Abraham is in this cemetery, showing birth of 08/16/1800, suggesting his mother to be Lydia Peabody.

Hosea is in this cemetery, showing birth of 08/04/1804, suggesting his mother to be Lydia Peabody.
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SAMUEL HALLECK CENSUS RECORDS

Samuel is found in the home of his son Abraham in 1850, age 84, widower, in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York.
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Additional information is welcome, especially regarding the "which wife is mom" issue, the identities of the wives, and confirmation of the Mayflower line for Lydia Peabody. Also, it might help to know the physical locations of each of the headstones of these three women, in relationship to the headstone of Samuel. Are they all in the same plot? Next to each other?? Do the stones resemble one another in style (or not)? Can Arden or Pabodie/Peabody research or published genealogies add any information? What is the source of the Arden and Peabody maiden names? What is the source for the parents of the wives?

Lydia Peabody Ancestry

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-27 04:40:46Z

I found Lydia Peabody in an old Pabodie Genealogy on Google Books. I leave it for Hallocks in this branch to confirm their Mayflower connection.

This Pabodie Genalogy shows different parents for her. It only shows she married Samuel Halleck and gives no details or children.

Lydia-6, Isaac-5, Joseph-4, William-3,2, John-1 Pabodie / Peabody

Peabody (Paybody, Pabody, Pabodie) Genealogy
Silam Hobart Peabody
1909

Search in left pane for: Halleck

http://books.google.com/books?id=cIlJAAAAMAAJ&printsec=f...

Hallocks at DistantCousin.com

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-25 14:02:26Z

Hallocks at DistantCousin.com

This seems an interesting site. These are lists of on-line databases that include a Hallock name. The list is not comprehensive, but it is free.

http://distantcousin.com/SurnameResources/Surname.asp?Surnam...

As near as I can tell, there is no central names index - you have to open each database and do a Control-F search from within your browser.

Two Edward Hallocks in Late 1800s > Greene County, New York

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-24 05:24:48Z

Two Edward Hallocks in Late 1800s > Greene County, New York

Did the Hallock Genelogy combine two Edward Hallocks into one person?

THE HALLOCK GENEALOGY

P 251 of the 1928 Hallock Genealogy lists an Edward H Hallock:

Edward H-8, Isaiah-7, Obadiah-6, Moses-5, Peter-4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

"Was son of Isaiah and Harriet Hallock. Was born 07/06/1846, died 1908. Married Julia or Georgianna Betts, of Greene Co, NY, 06/30/1870. she was born 05/20/1840, died 1918. Children:

1 - Sarah Ella - Sanford
2 - Minnie - lives in Catskill with mother
3 - Theresa, deceased.

Residence Greenville Center, NY. Occupation was farming

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EDWARD - 1 - HALLOCK - IN CENSUS

I have been unsuccessful in tieing him into a census record before 1870. He is in the 1870, and 1880 censuses, born 1821-1823, with wife Georgina/Georgianna, b 1846-1847, and daughters Theresa, b 1871, and Minnie, born 04/1873. He appears in all three censuses without a middle initial.

Then Edward appears in the 1900 census showing his marital status as "married", but with no wife or family. Daughter Minnie appears in Catskill, NY in the 1900 census with a woman, b Nov 1846, (same age as Georgianna), who is identified as her mother, but name: "Josephine". This Josephine indicates she is married, but is listed only with daughter Minnie and no husband. She indicates she was married in 1868, just before the 1870 census in which they are found without a child.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&a...

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&a...

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&a...

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&a...

Note that Josephine shows in the 1900 census she has had 2 children born, only one living, and that she has been married since 1868. With Minnie showing as her child here, there is no room for her to have had Sarah Ella.
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EDWARD H - No 2 - HALLOCK IN CENSUS

He appears as a child in 1850 and 1860 censuses with his parents, born 1845-1846, in New Baltimore, Greene Co, NY. I haven't found him in 1870, but in 1880, he is in Greenville, Greene Co, NY, with wife Julia, b 1840 in one census and 1844 in another.

In the 1880 census is a child named Sarah, born 1872. In the 1900 census is a child named Ella, b 1776. This child is apparently the child that the Hallock Genealogy refers to as Sarah Ella and has a sketch of her at pp 583-4, with husband Elbert Sanford and children Alton C, Arthur D, and Donald S Sanford, living in Greenville Center, Greene, NY.

It should be noted that this Edward and his wife, Julia, indicate in the 1900 census that they married 1900 and she indicated that she had had no children born, or living. Thus, Sarah Ella was not a daughter of Julia. She could be an adopted child of both, or be from Edward from a previous marriage.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&a...

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&a...

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CONCLUSION

TWO MEN

At the present time, with the above information in the census, we must conclude that there are two different men here and that the Hallock Genealogy combined them into one person. The first probably has no grandchildren. The second has Sanford grandchildren, but the descendants need to explore further whether Sarah Ella is a natural child of Edward with a wife previous to Julia or an adopted daughter of the Edward and Julia.

The younger one appears to match the one with the line above in the Hallock Genealogy.

WHO IS THE OLDER ONE?

So, who is the Edward Hallock, b 1821? There are undocumented web pages out that show an Edward Hallock with a date of birth in the same month he gave in the 1900 census as a son of Isaac & Abigail (Lester) Hallock of Albany County. I have not been able to tie into this Isaac's origins or family. He is buried in Stanton Cemetery, Albany Co, NY:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Ha...;

Ansel-7 Hallock, b c1812 VT , of Hubbardston, MA > Remove and Replace ALL Children

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-24 05:22:49Z

Ansel-7 Hallock, b c1812, of Hubbardston, MA > Remove and Replace ALL Children

Ansel-7, Isaac-6, Stephen-5, Benjamin-4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock

In the preceding post, I presented info from the Hall and Taft Genealogies that described a family for Isaac-6 Hallock, b 1784 of Richmond, Chittenden, Vermont which was more expansive and with more details than in the Hallock Genealogy. Although absent sources, most of the family members were traceable into census and other records to at least illustrate they existed. Until more evidence comes along, it added considerable possibilities for descendants from the new daughters these genealogies added.

At the same time, this information presented new (and contradictory to the Hallock Genealogy) light on who his sons Isaac-7 and Stephen-7 were. That post is here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hallock/616/mb.ashx

I then turned my attention to Isaac-6's son, Ansel-7, and looked at the family given him in the 1928 Hallock Genealogy, p 177, and found a surprise. There are nine children listed, all of whom are in the list of Isaac-6's children per the Taft and Hall Genealogies: Stephen, Joseph of Woodstock, CT, Isaac of Hubbarston, Mass, Lucretia-Haynes, Emily-Bruce, Elizabeth, Mary-Stone, and Ansel.

The 1928 Hallock Genealogy listed Ansel-7's brothers and sisters as his children!
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REMOVE

All of these nine children need to be removed / moved to Isaac-6. Refer to the Hall and Taft Genealogies for more details to enable future research.

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REPLACE - Starting with a clean slate, we have:

MARRIAGE:

06/25/1835 Ansel Hallock married to Elmira/Almira Mary Clark at Grafton, Worcester, Mass(Grafton VR's). He is shown as "of Sutton, Worcester, Mass". She is often referred to as Almira M and two records show her as Mary/Maria.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=mamarriages_ga...

BIRTHS OF CHILDREN:

Vital Records of Hubbardston, Massachusetts: To the End of the Year 1849
By Hubbardston (Mass.), p 51

http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA51&dq=Ansel+Hallock&a......

HALLOCK BIRTHS

Ansel Willard, s. Ansel and Almira, Sept. 8, 1836.
Joseph Whitman, s. Ansel and Almira, Aug. 5, 1841.
Catharine Bartlett, d. Ansel and Almira, Dec. 23, 1842.
Phylanea M., d. Ansel and Almira, March 4, 1847.

1840 CENSUS
Hubbardston, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
1M 15-19 (probably slipped mark into wrong column, sb 20-29 and 1F 20-29, ch: 1M under 5, total 3 in house. The male under five would be Ansel Willard Hallock, b 1836.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1840usfedcenan...

1850 CENSUS
Rutland, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
39 yrs old, wf A.M (Almira)-39, A.W-14 (Ansel Willard), J.W. (Joseph Whitman)-9, C..E-7 (prob Catherine Bartlett - but apparently later called Jennie C.E.??), E.M.-3 - prob Phylanea/Philena M
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenan...

1860 CENSUS
Templeton, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
48 yrs old, wf Almira M-49, ch Joseph W-18, Philena-13
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1860usfedcenan...

1870 CENSUS
(Ansel not found, but his wife is staying with son Joseph)
Athol, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
65 yr old Mary, living w Joseph-25 & wife Jane-27.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&a...

1880 CENSUS
Hubbardston, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
Listed in Schedule of Defective, Dependent, and Delinquent Classes - "Boarder at Pauper's Farm" - Ansel Hallock, 60 yrs old, b Mass, Parents born MA MA.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&a...

Almira Mary not found in 1880 census (yet).
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Daughter Jennie Named Ansel & Maria (Clark) Hallock her parents in Marriage Record - probably the Catherine Bartlett birth record and C. E. in the 1850 census

09/15/1864, Marriage of Jennie C Halleck to James Rice in Nashua, Hillsborough, New Hampshire
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...

01/15/1880, Marriage of "Jennie C.E. Rice to John D Griffin", in Nashua, New Hampshire, bride born 1846 (age 34), Hubbardston, MA, bride's parents: Ansel and Maria (Clark) Hallock.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=fsnewhampshire...
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DEATH RECORDS

No death record or headstone for Ansel Hallock found to date.

Death Record for Almira (Clark) Hallock:
08/12/1885 - Hubbardston, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
Listed as a widow, so Ansel has died by now.
Born CT, names of parents unknown (to informant), buried Athol (this is a town, not sure if meant if buried in a cemetery in the town, or if this is reference to a specific cemetery).
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=matownvital&am...
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INFO - Children of Isaac and Nancy (Lamb) Hallock (almost certainly brother) in the same VRs:

Eleanor Whitman, d. Isaac and Nancy, Nov. 1, 1840.
William Alexis, s. Isaac and Nancy, April 27, 1837.
s. Isaac and Nancy, Nov. 11, 1843. (note no name given baby? here, but ancestry.com shows the record with the same date with name "Isaac" for the baby, but parents unknown)

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Ansel's year of birth:

1850 Census - 1811
1860 Census - 1812
1880 Census - 1820
Calcd from Marriage date: Latest year born per Marriage: 1835 - less 18 years of age = born no later than 1817. If 21 = 1814, if 25 = 1810. So, the marriage record gives a range of 1810-1817, with the 1810 being a "soft" limit and the 1817 being a "hard" limit.

Asserted Wife of John Hallock Jr - Congressman (1783-1840) > Phebe Ball

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-24 05:12:55Z

Asserted Wife of John Hallock Jr - Congressman (1783-1840) > Phebe Ball

http://www.archive.org/stream/familyrecordsorg00litt/familyr...

http://books.google.com/books?id=Tdaujk3LswcC&printsec=f...

Another one of those undocumented genealogies from the 1800's. However, it would have been written when first hand knowledgeable people would have been alive - 1851. This asserts the wife of the Congressman John Hallock Jr from Orange Co, New York as Phebe Ball, daughter of Aaron Ball and Patty Wade - see more on her Ball ancestry at this reference.

Note this book has a total of 21 references to Hallocks, so there may be more hidden gems here. Phebe is child four below.

FAMILY RECORDS: OR GENEALOGIES OF THE FIRST SETTLERS OF PASSAIC VALLEY,(AND VICINITY,; ABOVE CHATHAM — WITH THEIR ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS,IS FAR AS CAN NOW BE ASCERTAINED
BY JOHN LITTELL.
STATIONERS' HALL PRESS, FELTVILLE, N. J.
1851.

AARON BALL, Esq., (6th child of Nathaniel,) and Patty Wade,
had children :

1. Polly, who married Abner Meeker.

2. Aaron, married, 1. Betsey Willcox, son of John Willcox, 2.
Betsey Woodruff.

3. Henry, married, 1st, Hannah Conklin, daughter of Benjamin
Conklin, of Union; 2nd, Sarah Mullock, daughter of William, of
Mount Hope, Orange county, New-York.

4. Phebe married John Hallock, Jun., son of John, of Orange
county, New-York. He was Judge of the County Court, and mem-
ber of Congress.

By his 2d wife, Hannah Willis, Aaron Ball,
Esq., had children :

5. Harriet, who married Stephen Bonnel, son of Abraham, of
Plainfield.

6; Nancy married Joseph Shotwell. Live in Rah way.
7, John, who went to Mexico when a young man, and married
there, and had two children, and died there in June, 1845.

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More work needs to be done to firm this up. Additional information is welcome.

Isaac-6, Peter-5,4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock > Additional Children?

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-24 04:39:18Z

Isaac-6, Peter-5,4, John-3, William-2, Peter-1 Hallock > Additional Children?

The 1928 Hallock Genealogy shows this Isaac-6 with one son, Israel-7, who had one son, Barnabas-8 Hallock - who was first cousin of the notable poet Fitz-Greene Hallock and a published poet in his own right.

Query: Did Isaac-6 have other children?

The following information is interesting fodder for further examination. Note that the 1850 census where Isaac-6 was living at age 98 contained a 60 year old "Unice Allen" and that a Eunice Hallock, daughter of "Isaac and Ruth Hallock of Washington" married a John Allen, 09/26/1805 as recorded in the Nine Partners Quaker Meeting Marriages. Using the census age, she would only be 15 years old at marriage, which is possible, or the census could be understating her age.

As an aside, the 1928 Hallock Genealogy says Isaac was an "esteemed" Friends preacher, but the 1906 Genealogy said his wife was the "esteemed" Friends preacher.

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Nine Partner Meeting Marriages:

http://www.archive.org/stream/quakermarriagesb00fros/quakerm...

This marriage is also at ancestry.com showing "Ruth", rather than "Kuth", which is probably an OCR conversion error.

"John Allen, Jr.. son of John and Llary of Washington.
Eunice Hallock, daughter of Isaac and Kuth Hallock of Washington. Married, 26 of 9m, 1805."

Note the Washington referred to is probably the town of Washington, Dutchess, New York.
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1850 United States Federal Census

Home in 1850: Hyde Park, Dutchess, New York
Gender: Male
Family Number: 405

Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Smith 35
Sarah A Smith 32
Eliza H Smith 13
Isaac Hallock 98 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Unis H Allen 60 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Is this Eunice Hallock md John Allen in 1805?
Matilda Hallock 50
Rosanna Kelley 18

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Hyde Park, Dutchess, New York; Roll: M432_497; Page: 249A; Image: 451.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenan...
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This information then raises the question of further relationships with the rest of the people in this house.

Is Matilda a daughter or daughter-in-law or even granddaughter (or niece, etc)
Is Sarah Smith a granddaughter or great granddaughter?

Hallock Genealogy, 1940, by Wm Hallock and Jacob Inmandt

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-21 13:35:53Z

Hallock Genealogy, 1940, by Wm Hallock and Jacob Inmandt

Just found this published Hallock Genealogy. Originally published by William Hallock and updated by Jacob Inmandt.

Did this Genealogy take the original published in 1850 and then update it without reference to the 1906 or 1928 Hallock Genealogy?

It is only a partial genealogy, if this is all there is - 18 pages long. I have had a somewhat difficult time following it. Hope it helps someone.

Since it is a pdf file, a normal Control-F search in your browser doesn't work. Maybe downloading it as a pdf file and opening it in Acrobat will enable one to search it via Acrobat.

Or you can use the chapter headings to try to drill down to your interest.

http://longislandgenealogy.com/Hallock.pdf

Quaker Records at Archives.Org

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-20 16:34:25Z

Quaker Records at Archives.Org

There may be more.

MENS' MEETING
MARRIAGE INTENTIONS AND MARRIGES
NINE PARTNERS MONTHLY MEETING
DUTCHESS C0UNTY, NEW YORK

Has 49 hits for Hallock:

http://www.archive.org/stream/quakermarriagesb00fros/quakerm...

On-Line Connecticut Records (Some Others States as Well)

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-15 12:03:32Z

On-Line Connecticut Records (Some Others States as Well)

This site looks like a gold-mine - and it is free: Connecticut Vital Records, cemetery transcriptions, some wills and other documents:

http://dunhamwilcox.net/0_ct-index.htm

Here is the home page, with other states:

http://dunhamwilcox.net/

NON-PETER LINE: Nicholas Hallock (1898-??), Fr Hungary < Cleveland, OH

silverfox3280 — 2012-04-14 13:42:36Z

NON-PETER LINE: Nicholas Hallock (1898-??), Fr Hungary < Cleveland, OH

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&a...

Nicholas Hallock, immigrated 1908, b Hungary, parents b Hungary
Wife: Elizabeth Kukta, immigrated 1898, b Hungary, parents b Hungary
Children in 1930 census: Olga, Nicholas, Helen, Elizabeth