Handford - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Andrew Jackson Handford in North Carolina

CCreekmore — 2012-05-11 13:18:21Z

There may or may not be a connection, Harry. My great grandfather, Andrew Jackson Hanford, has been elusive but I've found several things since the original post. Andrew Jackson Hanford was born in Connecticut around 1845; he came to the South during the Civil War, and never seemed to leave the area. He spent the rest of his life that I know of in the Halifax, NC area.

One of his wives was Betty Walker, and they had 8 children together. The other was Katy Walker who was much younger than him; I get the impression that she was taking care of him in his old age and when he died. I have yet to find his grave.

As for a third wife mentioned, it may or may not be the one you mention since he was having his children with Betty Walker during that time frame. From what I've heard, he was quite a rounder though.

Another of his great grandchildren (Mark Hanford) lives in Raleigh and is also working on the Hanford genealogy. We have shared pictures and stories, and he might be a good source as well.

Feel free to contact me at carolecreekmore@comcast.com
Thanks, Carole

Re: Andrew Jackson Handford in North Carolina

hshoffner1 — 2012-05-11 03:38:12Z

I am researching the Hanford family in Alamance County, NC. I have hit a brickwall with Andrew Jackson Hanford b. 1853 who disappeared from his home many years ago. I was intrigued by your 2002 post about an Andrew J Handford who lived in eastern NC and who you said was married multiple times. Could your Andrew be the same person who fathered 4 sons in Alamance Co. from 1880 to 1887 and then left his family?

-Harry Shoffner

Re: John Handford Eng>NY

juhlman6 — 2011-09-06 02:35:45Z

Hello,

What was the date of death for Mary Katherine Healy? I have a funeral card for a Mary K. Hanford died 1965 that I believe comes from California.

Thanks.

Ellen Handford

hilrysouth94 — 2011-07-11 12:34:45Z

Looking for any info on the family of Ellen Handford born 1742 Holkham Norfolk England married William Allen 1763. died 1786 Sculthorpe Norfolk England.

Re: Emilie HANDFORD b. 1847 Fitzback, Maine

gravison10 — 2011-01-25 20:35:05Z

I have her parents Guillaume Handford and Marie Bourassa but that is all I have.Armand and Emelie also had a daughter Mary,she married Francois joseph Peticlerc. Brian Gravison
Gravison@internode.on.net

Re: HANDFORD Nottingham

rjhandford — 2011-01-17 02:17:26Z

Hi Kate,
So sorry about the extremely late reply but family tree research has had to go on the back burner for some time.
What information if any do you have on William's younger brother Robert? Can you tell me the name of the family that Hephzibah was staying wuth in 1851? Do you have any info on the house number and street names both William and Robert had in the Portsea area? Is there any reference to Temple on William's Attestation papers for the Dragoon Guards? There are probably other questions and ideas that we can mull over once you have got back to me and suppled me with some of the above information.
Best Wishes Rob

Handfords in Derbyshire

AnnHale31 — 2010-12-18 23:32:16Z

Our ancestor Joasiah Handford married Fanny Branson in Basford in 1840. Their chldren were Elizabeth who married Benjamin Thornhill and lived in Nottingham. Josiah who married Bertha Brown who lived in Draycott, Ada who married Levi Charlton and lived in Draycott. Arthur who married Katherine and also lived in Draycott. George who l cannot find else where and Fanny who married Israel Statham from Wilne and who later moved to Barrow in Furness.
Has anyone any links for me please.
Ann Hale

Mary Handford

karen_65 — 2010-03-05 05:04:49Z

Hi
I am looking for Mary's family, she was born about 1818 and had an illegitimate son William 20 mar 1839 at south molton workhouse. His father is not listed on his birth certificate. I have been unable to find anything relating to Mary, her siblings and her parents.
William's branch came to Australia and I have been able to complete this branch.
hoping someone can help
Thanks

Re: HANDFORD Nottingham

rjhandford — 2009-11-23 16:52:23Z

Hi Kate,
It would be great to discover another relative out there that can join in the hunt for James and possibly WIlliams father(if they are related. My e-mail address for more direct contact is rjhandford@hotmail.com!

I have a few queries about your ancestors:

I know that the birth info is poor on the 1841 census and from what you say, William must have passed away by 1851 so the main investigation would centre around how to trace him back to his birth. Who are the people Hephzibah is staying with in 1851 as they might be related to some of the other family members my Handford's married?

Also, in Edinburgh is there any indication of Williams profession?

If he did indeed die between the 1841 and 1851 census there should by a death certificate which might shed some further light on him. There is a hereditary disease in the family although I don't know how far back it goes with the Handford's and if it goes back further than my 3rd Great Grandfather your side may have or have had Nail and Patella Syndrome if there is a connection.

I will study the info some more and in the meantime if you can supply me with some additional bits of info we may be able to help each other out.

Best Wishes
Rob Handford

Re: HANDFORD Nottingham

kateblogs — 2009-11-20 23:27:37Z

Hi Rob,

Sorry for the late reply, fell off the genealogy bandwagon for a while.

According to William's service record he was born in 1801 in Portmouth, and I have found a baptism record for a William Hanford in Portsea which is I gather is very close. I don't have the baptism record any more (computer died) and can't remember the parents names, but my William had a younger brother called Robert who also served with the 3rd Dragoon Guards. Let me know if that rings a bell.

I've noticed it isn't a particularly common name; there seem to be a lot in Devon, but very few elsewhere.

Re: Handfords of KirkLangley, Derbyshire, England

Clive_ArnoldGreen — 2009-10-28 17:13:23Z

Dear Michelle,

I am, indeed, descended from the Handfords of Kirk Langley. My Father's Mother was Kathleen Mary Handford and her Grandfather came from Kirk Langley.

James HANDFORD(1782) was my 3 x great Grandfather.

I have a great deal of information about the Handfords and, if you would like to contact me direct, my e mail address is c.arnold-green@tiscali.co.uk

I look forward to hearing from you.

Incidentally, my Wife and I have been to the church in Kirk Langley. There are a number of Handfords buried there.

Clive Arnold-Green

Re: Handfords of KirkLangley, Derbyshire, England

xshellbex — 2009-10-26 16:30:15Z

Hello.

My name is Michelle Coyle

I have recently started researching my Dads family tree on his mothers side Winifred her maiden name being Handford.

I have found a few things, one being James Handford b. 1782 is her great grandad.

Looking in Ancestry message board, I noticed you have mentioned being linked to James Handford b. 1782. My grandma is linked through his son William b. 1842.

I am still new to all of this. If you have any information. I would grately appricate it.

I can give you any recent information on my family.

I live 5 mins away from Kirk Langley and will be paying a visit next week when I am off work to have a look around visit the church. Its exciting to find people on here who are researching the same family.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards

Michelle

Beatrice Jane Handford 17Jun 1897

carolinedavis007 — 2009-09-05 20:25:12Z

Does anybody have any information concerning her ancestry?

I believe she was born in Exminster to John and Ann Handford.
I am looking for confirmation on this and Ann's maiden name.

She married Fernley Robert Jack Shobrook and after his early death married William T Jennings

Any info for family tree would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks on advance.

Re: HANDFORD Nottingham

rjhandford — 2009-08-11 04:04:56Z

Dear Kate,
I would like to know why you might think William from Portsmouth might be Harriet's father because there is a possibility he is a brother of my 3rd great grandfather James Handford who was a Royal Marine stationed at Portsea.
There are very few Handfords in this area around 1800, in fact there only seems to be my family in the whole of Hampshire up until 1840ish so there is a strong possibility of a link.
Best Wishes
Rob Handford

Re: Hannah Handford, b. 1713 in Devon

rjhandford — 2009-08-11 03:47:17Z

Only just saw your message regarding Hannah Handford so you may already have this info. Hannah Handford was born in Merton where she married John Wadland but her baptism was actually in 1710. She had 4 brothers Bernard baptised in 1696, John 1701, Henry 1704 and Samuel 1706. Their parents were Bernard Handford and Hannah Skriggins who were married in Merton on 22nd April 1696.

John Handford (d1811 - abt.1858)

eaglegb42 — 2009-08-07 13:08:47Z

i am trying to find My gg grandfather, John Handford (abt 1811 - abt 1858) born in Thornsett, Derbyshire, Uk
He was married twice, both called Elizabeth!
Elizabeth 1 (1811) m abt 1835,
children,Sarah Ann (1837)Frances (1838) Byron 'Bern' (1840 - 1917)
Elizabeth 2 (1824) m abt 1845,
children, Walter (1847) Mary (1850) james (1852) Hannah Millicent (1853) John Thomas, my g grandfather, (1859 - 1911)
any help to find more abiout him would be appreciated as there is some mystery about him, in about 1858 he dissappears from the census records and 2nd wife and his family move from Bradshaw Edge, Chapel en le frith, Derbyshire, Uk to Gorton, Manchester, UK

Elizabeth Hanford abt 1760 married john evans 1789

tevans820 — 2009-03-11 23:39:51Z

Looking for any info anyone can give m on Elizabeth Handford born about 1760 (just a guess) but married a John Evans in 1789 in St Domonick Cornwall.
Any info would b greatly appreciated!
Thanks

Re: Heathcote and Hodgkinson

jegmouse — 2008-04-24 02:37:38Z

Thanks Wilf the Marriage of William & Ann really helps, I'll have to order the certificate to confirm who Ann Heathcote's father was as I found
1851 Census Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2149; Folio: 65; Page: 43; GSU roll: 87782.
Household Members:
Ann Heathcote 3
Elizabeth Heathcote 39
James Heathcote 60
Sarah Heathcote 11 Mo
I actually have the birth certicate for this Ann and the Ann born to George & Elizabeth - so now that I have the marriage ONS codes I can get that and be absolutely sure.

Thanks again for all your help.

Heathcote and Hodgkinson

wilf14 — 2008-04-23 15:40:38Z

Hi Emma Have done some more research.
George Heathcote mar Elizabeth Slack 1839Dec Bakewell.
Earl Sterndale 1851 census: Ref HO107/2151 fol 17 Page 38
George 34 Elizabeth 33 William 9 born1841Jun Chapel,
George 4 born 1847Jun Chapel and Ann 1 born 1849June Chapel.
Ann Died 1920Mar Bakewell age 72. William Hodgkinson married Ann Heathcote 1877Dec Stockport. Hope this is useful
Wilf

Re: Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

wilf14 — 2008-04-18 19:40:26Z

Hi Emma
Where are you now? I dont know about Curbar but this is Hodgkinson country And there are plenty buried at Chelmorton and Earl Sterndale. This is not my branch but I have been in touch with those who do belong. We have a huge tree but havent be able to find a marriage for William and Ann. Do you have one? During the 19th C many folk moved to towns esp Sheffield Have you heard about the well-dressing custom in that part of Derbys. You could email me direct. Wilf

Re: Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

jegmouse — 2008-04-17 22:12:07Z

Thanks Wilf,
This is great. I can add another bit to my tree. Bakewell is a lovely place, it is a very busy town now what with the tourist trade and being near the Peak District. Well worth visiting along with Buxton, I am going to be visiting Bakewell, Chapel-en-le-Frith, Curbar and Flagg on my trip back to the UK.

From what my dad's cousin said all the Hodgkinson family are buried in Curbar Church yard - so while I am over there I will check it out - if I find anything I'll let you know.

Do you have anymore information about that branch of the Hodgkinson's?

Thansks again for the info
Regards
Emma

Re: Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

wilf14 — 2008-04-17 20:42:48Z

Hi Emma
Accordingto my records: George 1805-1874 married Martha Berrisford 1803-1887 at Bakewell on 10 Dec 1832

Do you know that part of Derbyshire?

Wilf

Re: Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

jegmouse — 2008-04-16 21:06:10Z

Ok Thanks, I don't suppose my William Hodgkinson appears on your research at all? If so, are you able to tell me what his mothers maiden name was? I have his parents as George & Martha, George B: 1801 & Martha B: 1804.

Let me know
Thanks
Emma

Re: Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

wilf14 — 2008-04-16 12:16:46Z

Sorry have no info on the Handfords only the Hodgkinson family of Chelmorton/Flagg

Re: Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

jegmouse — 2008-04-15 22:07:51Z

Dora Hodgkinson was married to George Richard Handford Middleton in 1904 in Bakewell, I am looking for more information on the Handford's of Disley. Do you know anything?

Thanks
Emma

Re: Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

wilf14 — 2008-04-15 19:23:35Z

Dora was born in 1880 in Flagg the daughter of William & Ann
Do you have her year of marriage?

Handford Information in Ancestry Learning Centre

kateblogs — 2008-03-30 11:36:01Z

Just in case anyone hasn't had a look, there is some useful background information about the Handford surname in the Learning Centre here at Ancestry. If you pop over you will find a map showing the locations holders of the name are found in, as well as some useful occupation data. You can also find the meaning/origin of the name - this alone is fascinating IMO LOL

Here's the link:

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/facts/handford-family-history-uk.a...

Handford's in Derbyshire/Cheshire/Lancashire

jegmouse — 2008-03-30 01:42:36Z

Hi my GreatGrand father was George Richard Handford Middleton B: 1872 (M: Dora Hodgkinson of Flagg) D: 1929 Chapel-en-le-Frith.
His father was William Middleton B: 1846 Whaley, M: Mary Ann Handford B: 1847.

Mary Ann Handford's father was Richard B: 1800, Disley Cheshire he married an Elizabeth B: 1813 Hayfield.

If anyone has any information about the Handfords of Disley I would be very interested in finding out.

Handfords from Sunderland area

tstevenson1_1 — 2008-03-21 12:53:41Z

Hello, I am looking for anyone connected to the Handford family of Sunderland, in particular a Elizabeth Handford who married John Stevenson about 1853 in Sunderland.
Thank you.
Tom.

Mailing list address update

kateblogs — 2008-03-20 22:02:17Z

Hi Everyone :-)

Just a quick message to let you know that Rootsweb has been moved on to the Ancestry servers. This shouldn't affect the message board, or the way it functions, but the url (address) has changed. The new url for this board is http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.handford/mb.ashx

For the time being the original address should work, but it would be a good idea to update the link if you have bookmarked it, or added it to your website in case that changes.

Have a great weekend, and Happy Easter if you celebrate it!

Kate (moderator)

Re: Handfords of KirkLangley, Derbyshire, England

Clive_ArnoldGreen — 2008-01-13 12:52:46Z

Hi Philippa,

My Great great Grandfather was James HANDFORD of Kirk Langley and I have a wealth of information on the HANDFORDs.

I would need to know a bit more about your line.

If you are interested, e mail me direct on
c.arnold-green@tesco.net I am sure we can establish a link between our lines.

Look forward to hearing from you,

Clive

Re: Handfords of KirkLangley, Derbyshire, England

eaglegb42 — 2008-01-08 18:53:20Z

Hi,
I don't know if you can help but i am descended from derbyshire HANDFORDS, but i have hit a dead end with JOHN HANDFORD, born 1819, in Thornsett. He had various children by 2 women.... children are Frances & Byron, then walter, mary, james, hannah millicent and john thomas (my G grandfather) can you help at all, any info would be gratefully received

thanks
Philippa

Re: Handfords of KirkLangley, Derbyshire, England

Clive_ArnoldGreen — 2007-04-01 09:18:25Z

Hi there,

James HANDFORD born c1782 in Kirk Langley was alo MY GGG Grandfather. I am delighted to hear from you.

It may be easier for you to contact me on my own e mail address at c.arnold-green@tesco.net

I, too, have a wealth of information on the HANDFORDS.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Clive.

Re: Handfords of KirkLangley, Derbyshire, England

rmjcaj — 2007-03-31 19:41:02Z

Hi

I am also researching the Handfords of Kirk Langley. James Handford b: abt 1782 is my GGG Grandfather. I have full evidence of my line back to that point. I also have a Handford tree from the International Geneology Index which traces the Handfords back from 1782 to 1625. I do not have the evidence to back this yet. I went to Kirk Langley today and photographed all Handford headstones. I also intend to go to Derbyshire records office in a couple of weeks and check through all the BMD microfilm records for Kirk Langley. Happy to share any info.

Re: Hannah Handford, b. 1713 in Devon

regularjoe02129 — 2007-02-28 06:32:34Z

I have an Elizabeth Handford b. 1660, d. 1745 in Westleigh, Devon....she could have been an aunt? or great aunt? but i know nothing more

Handforth

firstcat — 2006-11-23 10:49:05Z

I just realized that my John Handforth that died 22 Feb 1862 in Cheshire, England and married to an Elizabeth ? is probably the match to your info. This John is my great, great great grandfather.
Write back please!

John Handforth

firstcat — 2006-11-23 10:49:05Z

I don't know about a son name James. i do have Henry, John and Charles. Henry was born 20 Jul 1823 in Debden, Eng. m Ruth Eddy Merriam 22 Jan 1851 in Greenfield, MA, D 2 Apr 1890 in Greengield, MA. I have no info on the other two sons. My email is ssunland@jeffnet.org

Re: Harry Handford born Basford Notts England

kateblogs — 2006-10-08 08:53:15Z

I don't think they are the same HANDFORDS I am looking for. My William was born around 1801 in Portsmouth, and he had daughters Harriet and Emma. There may be a connection somewhere, but I can't see it at the moment.

Thanks for your reply!

Kate

Re: Harry Handford born Basford Notts England

berylhemsworth — 2006-10-08 07:40:10Z

My main interest is through Harry's mother's family called LAMB and they came from Southwell, Notts later moving to Hucknall Torkard. His mother Mary HANDFORD nee LAMB was separated from her husband Thomas by the time Harry was born so as Thomas can't be his father I haven't done much research into the HANDFORD side.
Thomas HANDFORD's parents were William b. 1830 and Hannah HAYWOOD b. 1839 both born Griffydam Leics. Harry had brothers Sidney Percy HANDFORD 1885, Thomas Lamb HANDFORD 1887 and sister Kate Lamb HANDFORD 1891.

Re: Harry Handford born Basford Notts England

kateblogs — 2006-10-07 18:03:42Z

PS: Harriet married a Thomas Wayne from Basford!

Kate

Re: Harry Handford born Basford Notts England

kateblogs — 2006-10-07 18:03:01Z

Hi Beryl,

I have a William (father), Hephzibah (mother) and Harriet (daughter) Handford all in Nottingham. William and Harriet appear on the 1841 census, Hephzibah and Harriet appear in 1851 - I'm not sure why all three aren't together, but I suspect there may have been some kind of separation. Harriet and Hephzibah move to Birmingham some time in the late 1850s, but I have no idea where William went. It appears he did marry again and have further children, maybe the people you are looking for are connected in some way.

Kate

HANDFORD Nottingham

kateblogs — 2006-10-07 13:21:42Z

Hi, I'm trying to find out about the parents of my g-g-g grandmother Harriet HANDFORD/HANFORD. She was born in Edinburgh in about 1829, but the family were living in Nottingham by the 1840s. She married Alfred Thomas WAYNE on 29th April, 1849 at St Pauls, Hysson Green, Nottingham.

Her mother Hephzibah HANDFORD (born Louth, Lincolnshire, 1801) was living with Harriet in 1881, but appears on the 1851 census in Nottingham as a visitor with another family.

I suspect Harriet's father may have been a William HANDFORD born Portsmouth 1801, who served with the 3rd Dragoon Guards, but I'm not certain about this because I am unable to find any reference to their marriage, or even any record of them ever living together. In fact in 1841 he appears to be living in Nottingham, married to an Elizabeth and to have another daughter, Emma aged 3.

If anyone knows anything about this family I would love to hear from them - they really have become a brick wall.

Kate

Re: Handford ~ Staffordshire

enjai30 — 2006-10-02 10:52:40Z

Hi,
I have Handfords from Harborne near Birmingham. Used to be Staffordshire.
Nancy

Handford ~ Staffordshire

Susan2670 — 2006-09-12 14:36:10Z

Has anyone any connections to the surname HANDFORD from Wonbourn, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire?

Mary Elizabeth Handford

cscampbell158 — 2006-04-19 19:06:21Z

I am searching for details of my great grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Handford (as stated on my grandmothers birth certificate). She married Tom Booth. (my great grandfather).
Tom was born in Hacconby, Lincs in June 1898, but I don't know for definite if Mary came from the same county. I haven't been able to find their marriage on Free BMD so I'm a bit stuck! Can anyone out there give me any clues?
Thanks, Sarah.

Re: Handford Ancestors

gukala — 2006-03-30 17:32:11Z

I am researching the Handford family of Glossop and the surrounding areas -
My great great grandmother was Hannah Handford, born in 1835 or so, who married my gggrandfather Thomas Rowbottom. Hannah was the daughter of Matthew and Sarah (Garside?) Handford, who lived on George St., Glossop, when he died 13 Jan 1873 at the age of 30. I can track him in the census back to 1841, being born about 1803 in Mellor, or Rowarth, or Glossop, depending on which Census data you use. one census referred to him as Mathew Handforth, another transcriber thought they saw Martha instead of Matthew in the 1841 Census.
his children were:
1. John, b. 1830, Derbyshire, m. Harriet Flint, immigrated to Kansas or Missouri
2. Hannah, b. 1835, Mellor, or Glossop, Derbyshire, m. Thomas Rowbottom and immigrated to Kansas in 1884
3. Matthew, b. 1838, Mellor, or Glossop, Derbyshire, immigrated to Kansas
4. Sarah, b. 1843, Mellor, or Glossop, Derbyshire, m. William Flint
5. James, b. 1847, Mellor, or Glossop, Derbyshire, m. Eliza Brine

I am trying to find more English records - having little luck short of what is availaible on Ancestry.com and the normal free sites generally accessible on the web.

I hope to get a response soon?

Re: Handford Ancestors and genes Connected

gukala — 2006-03-30 17:32:11Z

No problem,
Do you own stock in genesconected or something? If you coldn't help me - why spam me?
I been there - I am still finding help - I will even pay for help - but why would I want to go about searching for my genealogical connections on a website owned by a dating company who's only interest in computers is selling me an insufficent and inadequate membership to a totally useless service to get access to other peoples information o my own family when the internet is already still pretty much free.
Please Mr. Rothwell - don't know who you are - I have seen your other posts for the past few years and a few regarding handfords - Was hoping you was the real deal, guess your not.
I have been doing family history for several decades, and I you are starting to sound like someone who would sell me a page of phone numbers for £7.00.
Be careful you don't spam anybody else in here - I spent about $300 getting this memebership for ancestry.com - I like it because they generally don't allow spamming in the forums.
Hope you find some other Handford family descendant who wants to spend £7.00 a year for access to your materials and alleged assistance, but I am going to have to pass until one of my real relatives recognizes my Handford relatives from their own work, or until I can afford to spending another $300 or so for airfare to England, not counting the more hundreds of dollars I would have to spend while I am taking pictures and writing notes and generally doing genealogy. Have a nice day.

Re: Handford Ancestors and genes Connected

gukala — 2006-03-30 17:32:11Z

Dear sir -
I think you are ok - I bluster about a bit, sorry about that. I only consider my experiences with genesconnected to not be a too pleasant one and it brought back a sore spot with me - in particular about researching my english families. I registered, I got an account, then browsed, then got hit with the line about joining in order to see everything. and if someone was interested in contacting me, they would have to be a paying member too. I got really frustrated, as you might imagine.

anyways - I feel I should apologize for blustering at you, my girlfriend says I am a grouch, I guess you are just confirming it, I will contact you by email.

Thank you for having a little patience with an old grouch like myself

Re: Emma Handford, St Pancras, London

ruth1546 — 2005-12-25 19:13:52Z

Hi

I think I may have a link. I have William Handford marrying Mary Ann Easton in St Pancras five years before. Do you think he was a brother?

Re: Handford Ancestors and genes Connected

2005-11-01 15:41:21Z

I am so sorry. My enthuisiasm for the site I mentioned(wont mention it again) ran away with me. I am not and have never sent out spam I genuinly was trying to help as perhaps witnessed by my giving you details of free web sites such as Glossop Heritage etc. My Grandmother was Francis Ann Handforth from Hadfield just a few miles from Glossop and my direct line of Handforths goes back to John: B c1736/7 and his 3 brothers Joseph b;c 1734, Daniel: b c 1732 and James b;c1730. I have trees on most and a tree on Alexander Handforth b; 1545 Married to Jane Chadwicke. I am more than happy to photo copy all my trees and send them to you if you can figure out a way to send me your mail address. How else can I get this info to you? I really do not want to put my email address on this open forum as I am sure you may understand. My sincere apologies if I have upset you which I obviously have. My intentions were to simply try to help a fellow Handforth family researcher. Spam indeed what a load of b........cks!! Figure out a way to let me have your address and I will copy all my Handforth trees and send them to you and no you will not be asked to pay anything. What more can I do to placate you.PS Wish I did have shares in that site we wont mention but sorry to say I dont. Honest.